Spin To Win? - Analyzing Link's Spin Attack

[@MrMockRock]

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[@sansanabanana]

No.

[@seungkwanbot3203]

@@sansanabanana hababahahahahahahahajajahahhaahah

[@lordtajine9721]

No

[@calebdevilbiss6447]

This series definitely has merit, looking forward to see what you come later on! My biggest suggestions would be a move from the Shotos or Terry, a core projectile for a character (Samus, Mega man), and a move that has absolutely no combat use outside of smash, like pocket or judge.

[@andremorrison7626]

Rush down characters? Glass cannon characters? Living combo tree characters? Skill check characters?

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

Hitting the spin attack offstage honestly feels like the most powerful suicide move out of any attack in Smash to me. Doesn’t feel like _the_ most powerful move, but it definitely feels like a power move.

[@mzisaperson7925]

Flame choke

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

MZ Is A Person I prefer spin attack to be honest. It’s usually less safe and the command grab doesn’t feel as powerful to me

[@user-pp7ol5xs9l]

sad chrom noises

[@lightbrand_]

Nathan L falcon punch my man

[@Endershock1678]

@@mzisaperson7925 It's funnier, but I wouldn't say it's more powerful feeling.

[@ZOLOgangles]

Eyes peeled for more in the series. I believe this is an excellent direction to take your content, friend.

[@MrMockRock]

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

[@TheBestShirt]

@@MrMockRock cant wait to see Mario's fireball

[@chinyereudeh3405]

@@TheBestShirt I feel his Up B would make more sense, as it's an exaggeration (of sorts?) of what he's most well known for: jumping! But his Fireball is fair game as well to me

[@TheBestShirt]

@@chinyereudeh3405 thing is tho fire ball has been in every mario game since the original even in games where mario doesnt jump like mario kart 8

[@xor8171]

@@MrMockRock Cant wait for ken shoryuken

[@kirbo6437]

Alternate title: Link being a Beyblade for 20 min

[@Lymington214]

FACE OFF

[@benpirom]

greetings fellow plussy

[@jummfire]

This is the title in our hearts

[@Name-jb7kw]

Someone should make link a beyblade

[@TrinexxSlayer]

@@Name-jb7kw they gave link the spinner, which is a rideable beyblade

[@PineapplePineapplePineapplePin]

Boy I can't wait for Ganondorf's signature unique move to be covered! *Oh wait...*

[@petery6432]

I mean, there is Flame Choke, but that was based off of a Twilight Princess exclusively, so...

[@totalradlad]

@@petery6432 It kind of also references Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time, but it's most obviously referencing Twilight Princess.

[@petery6432]

@@totalradlad How does it reference Ocarina of Time? Twilight Princess had the cut-scene where he choked the Sage into dust, but when does he do that or a similar motion in Ocarina of Time?

[@theshanaman7805]

Peter Y his side tilt is also from twilight princess

[@anyone_but_maddy]

Mentor of KZbin I mean... final smash..?

[@zernek9199]

I was expecting a tier list of all variations of Link’s spin attack. I was surprised. It was a welcome surprise, though.

[@MrMockRock]

Yeah, when I was putting out teasers for this I got a _lot_ of different interpretations of what the video was actually going to be, not really possible to avoid. Hopefully with more episodes the premise becomes clear!

[@ADAJ342]

It seems to be a common theme with mockrock, he makes a video on a seemingly common topic and takes it on a whole new direction to the point where you actually feel well informed on game design by the end of it. In summary, It's always a pleasant suprise.

[@xxupnoutxx9925]

The video would of been like 10 minutes tops if it was just LUNK

[@NightmareSnake]

@@MrMockRock yo but can you do that video too? now i'm interested

[@IIIISai]

I think the order is worst, brawl, brawl his spin attack was ass for recovery and killing, next was melee, it was good in melee, but not that consistent in the air not bad but not better than the one I'm about to say, next 64 great kill move not the best recovery, smash 4,amazing,ultimate like smash 4 but better

[@theguyforbrawlz1961]

I'm hoping Kirby's Inhale is on this tier list at some point

[@illuminoeye_gaming]

Easy S

[@contrerasamado]

Its God tier in every game

[@KalokesMysteries]

What if it's his slide kick instead, hah

[@marigoldzephyrnio3647]

It's gotta be his jumping... I mean cmon that's older than inhale we need it more!

[@FoxIord]

@@illuminoeye_gaming While it's Utility and Power are very high, it doesn't really have any synergy because of the way it works, it's style is downright pathetic, and it's design is kind of up for debate.

[@theoverseer393]

I’m so surprised this was made literally 30 minutes ago. I was so ready to binge watch the series

[@MrMockRock]

I'd better get to work then!

[@jobot0114]

As I commented before, I love this and can't wait for some of the more unconventional characters.

[@superfrubblez6123]

Feel like RPG characters won’t get too much out of this series just due to their game’s nature

[@MrMockRock]

The criteria will be slightly flexible in cases where it's clearly necessary. At least for the first while though, all the candidates I'll be putting in the voting pool will make sense for the criteria in this episode.

[@shiggerator6816]

due*

[@superfrubblez6123]

MockRock well either way I really enjoyed this. As someone who’s only Zelda game was BotW, I was really cool seeing an analysis of all of its incarnations. I’ve been watching since the first heavyweights video and love your work and especially the video essay format. I’ve probably watched some of your ultimate videos 5 or more times. They’re just so entertaining. Keep up the good work!

[@superfrubblez6123]

@@shiggerator6816 shit u right

[@eliwam400]

I think the option to throw a pokeball could theoretically count as a signature move in Pokémon games

[@barbedbeggar5520]

This channel is the definition of "hidden gem".

[@dogsneezer259]

Hidden in plain sight

[@Farkonso]

70k subs is hidden okay

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

@@Farkonso it kinda is tbh.

[@barbedbeggar5520]

@@Farkonso More people are realizing how great his channel is.

[@dogsneezer259]

@@Farkonso Not talking about that. Almost all of he's videos get 200k plus views

[@WillStevensonMusic]

I wish Mario's forward aerial was a signature move of his cause man I would love to see MockRock put out a 20 minute analysis of the funny aerial.

[@epikrobert9589]

Although it would be an epic tribute to its end, I’m afraid that it may not be applicable. Still tho, would love to see this!

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

Mind if I.... Spin this around in my head a bit? I'll see myself out.

[@flyforce16]

I'll read this comment later, after my Spin class.

[@PissyPooPoo]

@@flyforce16 after you're done with that, I'll be waiting in the parking lot. We'll go for a Spin

[@Seth_Hezekiah]

@@PissyPooPoo Mind if I tag along? Heck, I'll drive, I've always wanted to take the Camaro to do some donuts.

[@seansean792]

@@Seth_Hezekiah och, all these suggestions on what do are making my head spin.

[@cesarcastillo7129]

Wallspin

[@pongldr]

I love the idea of this series, it's the exact kind of thing I can see binging over and over and over once theres a good few episodes more to it. As for a move I think would be cool to see... Sonic's spindash or Mario's fireball!

[@dylaneyestone5154]

Not a series I expected, but very good, and an interesting concept. Can't wait to see more!

[@Alushu]

Man, I kinda miss the "WWWWWHATS GOOD EVERYONE, MOCKROCK HERE" intro.

[@crabdty]

Sorry for dislike but I disagree

[@Lololsans]

Samuel Isibor you can.... just like it though.

[@ivrydice0954]

@@crabdty Not like it matters we can't see dislikes the button is pointless.

[@buggybaguette5916]

@@ivrydice0954 it lets you express your frustration

[@epekka]

@@ivrydice0954 in threads it doesn't do anything but in the wider comment section dislikes push comments down the list

[@brendanmagnuson9022]

As a huge Pokèmon fan, I would love to see pikachu's volt tackle covered.

[@SaltyTreecko]

false swipe gaming has a great video about Pikachu in competitive Pokémon that I would highly recommend

[@Fizz-Q]

IT WOUDL BE FUNNY BECAUSE PIAKCHU CAN'T ACTUALLY LEARN VOLT TACKLE HE HAS TO GET FROM *E G G*

[@JRC2397]

@@Fizz-Q It can learn it from tutor now too

[@Fizz-Q]

@@JRC2397 WAHT *WHAT KIND OF REALITY IS THIS WERE A WILD PIKACHU CAN HAVE TACKLE VOLT*

[@JRC2397]

@@Fizz-Q Sun & Moon and their ultra counterparts

[@andrewjett5293]

Lol imagine Mario on this tier list it’s just “I can do a jump”

[@asierx7047]

Footstool tier: S

[@Elias-dx4dc]

Yeah I stopped listening to Mockrock after he said Bubsy 3D sucked

[@petery6432]

Something I will never get is the long animation, and the "hit once, can't get hit again", particularly with Adult Link. It has mostly been a single, maybe double complete turnaround in Zelda, yet in Smash, he spins around 5 or 6 times. I never quit understood why, mostly because the few incarnations that do take a long time to finish can hit the same enemy multiple times.

[@ballisticboo7808]

Honestly, if they're going to keep it as single hit they should just have him do one spin.

[@sirpufflington8116]

I think it’s a risk/reward. It’s super strong as a kill move and is also really quick. It allows for a good punish if you whiff, but an early stock lead if you connect

[@givecamichips]

Do you want a Smash 64 recovery? Because that's what you'll get for one spin.

[@Kosecant]

I think you really undersold how good the quick spin was in the 3d games, it's often the highest dps option when chained into other quickspins

[@ImLuna_az]

Link must be really dizzy by the end of this video

[@azathoth7587]

Very hyped for your next archetypes analysis video. I can't wait to see your zoner analysis.

[@Steelbleeder]

Honestly I’d say the downward thrust/finishing blow is just as iconic as the spin attack

[@holdenmeier6619]

BRILLIANT idea for a series, very excited to see where this is gonna go

[@ABAgamer_]

If any object that feels like a sword exists, a Spin Attack must be done.

[@FelineDeskFan13]

*happy butter knife noises

[@ABAgamer_]

@@FelineDeskFan13 (triumphant stick sounds)

[@asianbronyman]

I'm really interested to see where this series goes. Videos of the signature moves from the Pokemon characters are gonna involve exploring the nightmare that is competitive Pokemon and I look forward to that.

[@katzouille]

Great video, I can't wait to see the next one, my favourite of the 3 would be Kirby. My suggestion for a following video would be the general idea of the ground pound attack. Regarding the character, there's a LOT of possible candidates, including pretty much every Mario and DK character, and Banjo-Kazooie. Other good moves would be Samus' charge beam, Ryu's Hadoken, Pikachu's Thunder, Sonic's spin dash...

[@camusreviews6877]

This series is gonna be fun. Ike’s aether, Ryu and Ken’s shoryuken and/or hadoken, Joker’s gun, Sonic’s spin attack, Kirby’s inhale, there are plenty of great signature moves

[@mohanadald1587]

You have me wondering what kind of career (or major if you’re a student) you have outside of youtube. Your level or preparation and analysis definitely shows you can really shine in a lot of different analytical fields.

[@hedgehoundable]

I like this new series. And it's just a noice funducational thing about animation and iconography in gaming.

[@WastedHog]

Solid stuff as usual! My only peeves here are: 1- No footage/mention of the Four Swords Adventures fully charged spin attack (after reaching the Force Gem threshold) 2- I think it at deserves a passing mention that Link's forward-air is very likely modeled after an 'uncharged' spin attack, resembling Ocarina of Time's especially-- even hitting behind Link in Smash 64 before the move was slowly streamlined across games. A bit of speculation and hearsay if we're JUST going over the move titled "Spin Attack", but I think it speaks to how iconic it is in Link's repertoire. Looking forward to more of the series though, very excited!

[@MrMockRock]

Good feedback! The Four Swords Adventures addition wouldn't be a bad idea, I was trying to avoid getting too stuck in the weeds with _every_ variant of the move ever seen but that one is probably unique enough to include, good call. In regards to his forward air, I generally stayed away from too much stuff that was "Spin Attack-esque," which is also why I don't directly mention, for example, the Back Slice from Wind Waker/Twilight Princess. It's already a heavy topic, so I tried to stick to more explicit references.

[@WastedHog]

@@MrMockRock Fair enough, and totally valid! 'Wish I had more ideas to give about this new video series but I'm honestly just excited to see more for now, and thanks for responding to me :)

[@MrMarinus18]

I think the Wii version of TP should get a mention as well as there the spin attack has no charge-up at all. But instead has a prolonged cooldown. That is huge for it's main purpose which is to push enemies back if you are getting overwhelmed.

[@AverageHandle_]

Now this was a great video I can’t wait to see more

[@7_birds674]

I'm really excited to see the next videos in this series! Really love your work

[@sergionieto8667]

As a Link main, using the bomb to recover, tech, spin attack away from the stage, and catch the opponent offguard is very pleasing

[@gaviogaming2949]

I am so excited for this series!

[@Heebie-Deebies]

I did really like this, and I hope to see the series continue! I love learning about game history and comparing different games. I look forward to more!

[@armourslayer8942]

I'm guessing Samus' signature move is going to be either the Screw Attack or the Power Beam

[@Fizz-Q]

MISSILES

[@TheBlueWizzrobe]

I'd actually argue that the morph ball is more iconic to her series. Not sure if it counts though because it's not really an attack...

[@envan7865]

Absolutely the screw attack, it’s literally the Metroid logo

[@dogu1601]

@@TheBlueWizzrobe absolutely. Metroid isn’t Metroid without the Morph Ball, whereas the Screw Attack is just a lame attack

[@psicopato2460]

Morph ball

[@thealmightyduck5743]

This video had some incredible polish, and your ability to analyse moves and characters in an interesting and engaging way makes for a thoroughly enjoyable watch. Keep up the great work, dude.

[@jamiecooke3051]

You deserve more subs! I was honestly so surprised to see you had 70k, that’s good but I’m sure you’ll grow so easy! Keep it up dude!

[@cheesuschrist5967]

Thank you for reviewing a singular move man it really needed a twenty minute video

[@Storm-jj6nq]

Baby boy why you gotta be so negative. Whats wrong with you? This dude makes dope content. Thanks for giving him the view tho

[@nmjoey]

I think this kind of content is wonderful and a phenomenal way to transition from being a pure smash-tuber to being more a general gaming youtuber with smash roots. Keep up the great work

[@TheGamersState]

Love this idea! Can't wait for more!

[@ValianceGames]

AAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!! THIS WAS SUCH A COOL VIDEO!!! I've never seen this kind of thing before please bring is more of this! I love "History of" videos like this. I'm so happy you started with LoZ too!!! This was so cool! I'm just overwhelmed with how awesome this was

[@benwest9625]

I really dig this video! It's something I've never really seen before. I'm very interested in seeing the series grow!

[@legosiw]

I really love this. Cant wait for more. Even if its all opinion based, going through and explaining your reasoning for its placement is very welcoming because it gives your viewers something to build off of if they'd like to expand on if they'd have a different placement for the move.

[@Chaklun96]

It's a really neat concept and you did it very well on your first try :) can't wait to see the follow-ups!

[@TheBlueWizzrobe]

I love this! Awesome video, and a great idea for a series! Can't wait for the next one!

[@actisclass]

One of the most iconic aspects of Link's character at this point, so cool! (great analysis!)

[@krosshair450]

Over the last year, you’ve slowly become one of my favorite content creators within Smash. Your clear passion, high-quality production values, and deep and intricate knowledge of your covered topics is really nice to see, especially in a game series whose content creators typically gravitate more towards stream highlights (not that there’s anything wrong with that) and I hope your channel continues to grow in the years to come.

[@MrMockRock]

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

[@arabhero10]

Love love LOVE this. It scratches my brain itches for nostalgia, deep analysis and historical retrospection. While I’m glad you started with something well known, and episode 2 is gonna be something equally well known, I hope the third will be one something less common, like PK Freeze or Witch Time

[@ignaciojose8813]

Haha I love the pause before saying the “out of 5” , nice video man

[@AlexMitchell12]

I love this idea for a series, and this is a strong start too! Although I am curious, why do the scoring out of 5 if you use decimals? Using something like 9/10 is significantly better than 4.5/5

[@lukar3116]

i feel like hyrule warriors doesnt get enough attention, i had a lot of fun playing it

[@AJAMMER27]

3:28 had no idea you could do that and i have nearly 200 hours on BOTW

[@TinkC43]

I’d assume that Breath of the Wild was your first Zelda game?

[@AJAMMER27]

@@TinkC43 played like halfway through windwaker but basically 😂

[@greentoonlink]

Highly informative and enjoyable! Great stuff, looking forward to the next one!

[@ChuchoBros24]

This is so cool! I'm really excited for this series :D

[@TheManaPrism]

I love this new concept. When I saw it was 20 minutes I wasn't sure I was going to watch the entire video, but I did, it was very interesting to see where the legendary Spin Attack came from and how it's still here 29 years later.

[@hunterbeaune7626]

Very interesting video indeed, I've been a big fan of your content for awhile now and I'm excited to see the rest of this series. My personal pic for ep. 2 is Mario's Jump.

[@therainbowyoshi817]

Absolutely loved this video. The Zelda series is my favorite video game franchise, and to see one of my favorite content creators touching on it is a welcome surprise. Please keep this series up, it honestly seems like an amazing fit for you and your style. As an aside, when I think “iconic game moves” the first thing I think of is Sonic’s Homing Attack. Granted this is almost exclusively a 3D move, and something like the Spin Dash or the modern boost mechanic may be more fitting for the character, when I think of a “Video game attack” that’s the first one that pops up, so if it interests you I’d be a liar to say that I’m uninterested in seeing you cover it. As for your 3 listed in the video however, Kirby’s inhale would easily be my choice. Love ya MockRock 💚

[@TheMonarchOfTetris]

Really cool video. This is an interesting idea for a series. i look forward to seeing what you do.

[@unnameablename]

Can’t wait to see what failure of a move ends up in F

[@alexp5342]

Maybe Simons Whip Twirl

[@bees3707]

Fantastic video! Amazing research and editing, but that's what I should expect for your videos. For the next video in this series, try Mario's fireball, that has plenty examples of it's power and versitility. Again, thanks so much for the content, you do phenomenal work, man.

[@poogly123]

This is an excellent idea for a series and it's well-executed. Good job.

[@mikewebsters4119]

This seems interesting, could you cover the mega buster in the future?

[@painuchiha2694]

Make olimar’s signature move: Throwing pikmin Or sonic spin dash I’m sure everyone love those

[@asierx7047]

Mega Man's Lemons

[@Pronoun_Stealer]

7:35 I'm rejecting my humanity, Zelda!

[@TrinexxSlayer]

i can't believe fierce deity is a jojo's reference

[@CarelessFoolFallsFlat]

Ooh, this is a neat new series you got here. There are so many iconic techniques you can take a swing at. I'm not part of your Discord, but I hope people over there vote for Kirby's Inhale, though Mario's jump feels the most "necessary", given the influence of his series's mobility on the rest of the video game landscape. Other moves that might make for a good topic for this show: Bowser's Fire Breath Sonic's Spindash Wario's Shoulder Charge Pit's Arrows Little Mac's KO Punch Basically any of Ryu and Ken's special moves

[@devanarcher7054]

Sooooo I'm expecting Spindash sometime (It's used everwhere, Sega Heroes, when he crossed over into other mobile games like some monster fighting one, in his Lightspeed Attack from Adventure and Team Attack in Heroes)

[@Jknight416]

My boi started off this series with the most iconic movie of my favorite gaming series! I like it!

[@toxicastigator]

Would love to see a ScrewAttack tier list from Metroid!

[@baructort]

I definitely liked this format and concept and hope to see more soon

[@brandonpiech3]

I really enjoyed this video! Please keep them up!

[@johnnywellens1145]

My vote goes to Luigi's Poltergust, but I have to say I am anxiously awaiting Sonic's Spin Dash/Charge!

[@gabrielperez8619]

I can't wait for the final 3 hour supercut.

[@MEDYuzu]

You can use spin attack in Link to the Past to move your character sprite close to an edge without falling off. Pretty handy in the Moldorm boss fights and for bomb jumping over holes in the ground!

[@oliverjuarez1035]

I think another iconic attack that can be considered equal or more iconic that links spin attack is definitely Mario's fireball. It's been in literally every Mario game

[@deadbolt3211]

Unbelievable... you didn’t mention the puzzle solving utility of the spin attack in the legend of Zelda game in Nintendoland for the Wii U...

[@MrMockRock]

"Link's Spin Attack." I'm aware that it shows up in Nintendoland (as well as the Hero's Spin on Mii Swordfighter), but doesn't count!

[@deadbolt3211]

MockRock Wow I didn’t think I’d get a response to a lame joke! On a related note, what exactly were the criteria for what games you would use? Obviously the canon link games yes, super smash bros I would assume to be included because you make SSB content, but what made Hyrule Warriors, Cadence of Hyrule, and Soulcalibur count? (I’m wondering mostly about Soulcalibur.)

[@dargossss]

I have to say, I like the addition of this new series. I'll be sure to watch the next entry.

[@GBJwill]

Can’t wait for the power dunk video, nice job!

[@yeasstt]

The spin attack was a technique in the original LoZ too. You could change direction during an attack and your sword would change directions with you

[@ludgerkres.1437]

6:46 Espeon•CH here, this is why I absolutely will commit to an aerial spin attack, even if its my last stock and notice I got my opponent in the attack. Kills at 80% nearly every time. You probably seen me do this many times before. :p

[@Clefargle]

Want to see more of these type of videos on specific character moves and their faithfulness

[@alexandermyleshorn9428]

love this vid! looking forward to next in series

[@Ryoke-q3o]

I'm excited to see this series grow, please do falcos dair for smash alone. Or if you want moves that work in games otuside of smash then it deff has to be Samus charged shot which has been her most iconic move for ever ahah

[@crabdty]

The mock is gonna rock!

[@danielstevenson1074]

this series is really cool keep it up!

[@ebocinfo4806]

How do you only have 70K subs? Why not 100K? Or 500K? Some of the most quality, thought-out content on the site with the minor drawback of uploads being a bit spread out.

[@MrMockRock]

Haha, appreciate the kind words, but uploads being spread out isn't a "minor drawback," it's a huge issue! I did just recently switch to KZbin full-time though, so you should see more from me soon.

[@Storm-jj6nq]

Ive missed your content and think your criminally underrated, especially compared to other controversial figures right now.

[@ebocinfo4806]

@@MrMockRock Yeah I saw that community post, keep up the content!

[@mr.paperbag.e4853]

This is such a good video man!

[@Jaxodahomie]

YOURE INTRO IS SOOOOOOO GOOD!!!

[@praevidens]

It's so satisfying when you hit every slash and kill your enemy. That is before trey spike you

[@mariojordan9543]

This new type of content is really enjoyable. Cant thibk really on any valid critic, so keep going Rock! You are doing great

[@Storm-jj6nq]

I know this video doesn't have as many views as other videos, but please continue this series!!! I personally really enjoyed this vid,

[@MrMockRock]

I will, thanks! This video has actually done better than I expected it to, it's an investment into a future direction for the channel, no worries there!

[@jubdroid2590]

MockRock and underrated are synonymous

[@oireal7261]

Never knew you could circle the joy stick for a spin attack in BOTW. That's sick. For the next video, I'd love to see Mario's "Super Jump Punch" or Shulk's "Monado Arts"!

[@Pikachu825]

Oooh, this is a really interesting series idea. I'll be looking forward to the hadouken/shoryuken episodes especially

[@thejjdm1126]

Topics relating to the video :Scott the woz, wolf

[@alvaromartin4603]

I’m seeing what rating would get the Monado Arts

[@HoundPlus]

Terry's Buster Wolf might be hell to go through, it's appeared in like well over 30 games.

[@AarturoSc]

Love this series concept. Just one question: How can a character like Snake be rated here, tho? Were his signature move is his CQC and stealth. By his throws? By stealthily placing C4 on opponents? By both?