Spiral Movie Review

[@matthewmcshane399]

Fun fact: the finger trap initially showed all ten fingers ripped off individually but it kept making the movie nc17, so they only shwoed around five on screen and used more sound effects for the rest. also the main special effects guy or the director kept the prop severed fingers and got pulled over by customs and had to explain why he had fake bloodied fingers on him.

[@scientificbrony]

"ey don't worry about it" as you use the dismembered fingers to recreate an Italian gesture

[@garrettsmith4034]

Brutal

[@deejno.4758]

to help me count to twenty

[@paintingcube3853]

Want to know something hilarious? The director Darren Bousman had to take those finger props back to Canada with him after shooting the film completed. He had to explain to the inspectors at the border why he had these severed detective Finch fingers in his car. 🤣😂😅😆🤣

[@scientificbrony]

@@paintingcube3853 he already said this in his comment? Unless it happened twice which is hilarious

[@spencerhering8684]

Decker, fucking genius. Spiral is literally everybody hates Chris R rated edition. You are awesome

[@lordofslugs2700]

😂 facts . Exactly what it is , I paid to see this when it came out . And I saw that twist from a mile away

[@HalfBloodBrony]

Something about how unassuming the new partners was when he showed up just made me think he was the killer, and I turned out to be right

[@clintmcbride7830]

I think the idea of Saw becoming an anthology series is ripe with potential. So many different ideas of what you could do. Since the idea of John was to build a following you could make each installment about different apprentices, cult members, or copycats. Each with different interpretations of his message and methodology. Maybe one is about a follower who targets certain types of offenders prefers the escape room style traps. Maybe one is about a small town and they get a new resident and come to find out important members of the town are a jigsaw cult pruning the unsavory (might get sued by Edgar Wright for that one). One could be more of a psychological thriller where a cult member is trying to groom a new convert out of a meek person abused by society by targeting people who have abused and taken advantage of them. So many ideas. They could have a legit franchise and never have to do another mainline entry

[@Riplee86]

Have it all culminate when different factions of the Saw cult start targeting each other over their differing methodologies.

[@beatlemania8945]

"The Jigsaw Wars." Genius.

[@clintmcbride7830]

@@beatlemania8945 two rival factions of Jigsaw followers both going on a spree but they disagree about the philosophy behind their actions. And the cops don't realize it's two groups or that some of their own may be involved in one or both.

[@snuggldungeon]

Awesome. This movie leaves that possibility open too... if you really look at the trap in Spiral NONE OF THEM ARE SURVIVABLE. Eg, having your tongue ripped off gives you less than 3 minutes before bleeding to death. Like the Spiral faction would be certain death type traps

[@jakepayne2985]

There’s the show called The Following with the Baconater that is about what you describe, I believe.

[@GriffinPilgrim]

At least the villain in this is merely clever, not a frigging infallible oracle. Jigsaw predicting everyone's reactions perfectly, even well into the future after his own death really started to grate on me.

[@broghad8241]

"Clever" is an overstatement

[@camsterdam3896]

Saw sucked

[@wugglesx]

What was funnier ow annoying for me well other than that and him saying he never murdered anyone was how they just kept adding more and more reasons he was doing it when just 1 was plenty heck since killers have 0 other than just cause they wanted to and jigsaw ends up with like 3-4 lol

[@Lazrael32]

@@wugglesx Jigsaw was a murderer in even the first movie. people complain about how he made games with no hope of real survival in later entries but he also did it in the first movie. I always saw John Cramer as being a Cult Leader type. "There are rules, and you must follow the rules, or you are wrong. But if I break the rules than it must be for a just reason. I don't have to explain myself. Your lack of faith is disappointing and will be punished!"

[@Gr1mm4]

@@Lazrael32 Wasn't it Amanda and that other Cop who were working for Jigsaw that made the fully unwinnable games? That's why he got the Doc who cut his foot off to test the pair after his death, it's mentioned in either Saw III or IV and the final Saw film. I still think Jigsaw was a murderer, but at least there was a chance at winning his style of games.

[@GoondocksCastle]

SO nice to see Deck Shado movie reviews in my feed, I feel like it's Christmas. The baking cookies or cutting my toenails videos are like Christmas, too, but at my Dad's.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

What might be interesting would be a Spiral sequel where someone who sees themselves as a 'true' follower of Jigsaw shows up to go after Sprial for distorting and misusing John's methods.

[@coryames1170]

So either Logan or Dr. Gordon.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@coryames1170 It's been a while, are they the only ones left? I don't even recall Logan, looks like I need to watch the series again. :)

[@coryames1170]

@@LibraGamesUnlimited Logan was introduced in Jigsaw. He was John's 1st apprentice. And yes he and Dr. Gordon are the only 2 left. Amanda, Hoffman and Jill are all dead.

[@LibraGamesUnlimited]

@@coryames1170 Oh, I only saw Jigsaw once, no wonder I don't remember hm. :)

[@streetgamer3452]

@@coryames1170just Gordon. Logan was also just using it for revenge.

[@jwnj9716]

With his dead partner, I started questioning "wait, what's the game? How is he supposed to win? Oh no....it's him isn't it?" Sighs.

[@questor842]

100% The traps are a big part of the Saw movies, but the twist is equally as important. Broadcasting the twist loudly and in a very un-clever manner took so much away from this movie.

[@krampusklaws2238]

A lot of people, myself included, guessed the partner from the trailers. It wasn't very subtle. the old slap to the face with a sledgehammer kinda subtle

[@greenkoopa]

@@krampusklaws2238 the partner guy plays the betrayer in other things, though I can't tell if that's true or if he just has a good face for villainy

[@Makoto03]

So happy to see you review this. Spiral is the only Saw movie i hadn't seen because it just didn't look great from trailers.

[@danielreynolds4716]

I literally rented this movie with no awareness of it's connection and after 15 minutes realized "I done tricked myself in to watching another Saw movie"

[@diaborodevil3161]

Actually I kind of like how the traps were kind of rigged cause William saw no redemption in them so he sickly gives them false hope so they suffer

[@azathoththe3rd]

Just like Amanda

[@laughingmask3118]

IKR IT WAS AWESOME

[@streetgamer3452]

Ye, William and John are two different people. John, in his insanity, truly believed in his ability to help via torture, William just wanted full blown revenge

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Just want to say thank you for your recent video on being a KZbinr. It keeps me going.

[@matthewmcshane399]

The next saw movie is apparently going to focus back on Logan Nelson from Jigsaw, while Spiral's story may be spun off into a tv show, like a much bloodier police procedural (unless TV censorship ruins that.)

[@DeckerShado]

Dunno, TV seems to be going in the direction of drive-in movies back in the day. Dwindling viewership, so let's invent grindhouse. All the blood, all the sex, all the most outrageous plots! Gotta get viewers somehow.

[@tbirdUCW6ReAJ]

Honestly, even if the guy with the tongue trap won, he’d either bleed to death or he’d choke on the blood.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

The reason, I believe, that most people are not fans of Spiral is specifically because it isn't Saw. Now that sounds reductive, but the film came with the expectation that it was a continuation of the Saw franchise, and those expectations weren't precisely met. It had much of the aesthetic without the same themes, similar traps without the chance of success. So when people's expectations aren't met or surpassed, they're left disappointed and sometimes angry. They aren't going to return to second guess themselves, so it'll just be logged away in their mind as 'a bad movie'.

[@laughingmask3118]

But Saw sucked! Why was it ever popular in the first place? It was just gore porn.

[@TheAdarkerglow]

@@laughingmask3118 that's a matter of taste, but I believe part of it was that people could argue over whether or not they could've figured out the puzzles or endured the pain to overcome the traps and predict the outcomes. Spiral... well, it was literally just 'they die'.

[@Merlaut715]

I like Spiral, but for me it wasn't as different from typical Saw as I was expecting, judging from the new name, movie posters, and the official trailer.

[@Lukkern]

​@@laughingmask3118Honestly mainly because of Tobin Bell At least for me. The main story was actually pretty interesting and good as well. For me, the gore isn't what made it good, rather it was kind of a bonus as i love practical effects and DAMN are there a lot of then in the first seven of the movies. There's a lot of them in Saw X as well and that was the best saw movies since the original saw Imo.

[@adriansmith1947]

So it begins

[@invidatauro8922]

13:17 You know that is a good point that people don't often think about when it comes to dealing with corrupt cops.

[@God4sakensoul]

I normally don't ever like videos, but decker your reviews crack me the hell up. Keep up the good content.

[@FTFanatics]

I actually like the change in the voice for the tapes because it’s not that scarier or intimidating but it’s off putting and strange I really like it.

[@mikesavio66]

It also comes off as a bit androgynous too. Like, that voice could be interpreted as either feminine or masculine.

[@faceless2302]

I like it because it feels more amateur and real, like what a copycat would do given their own limitations or personal tastes. The original voice is more intimidating, but it also has a definite "this is a movie" aspect to it that this new voice discards.

[@StevenMatthewsTFI]

My favorite part of this officially is your reference to your Predator review, which is still one of my favorite ones to go back and watch.

[@baron_blackstar]

Yo Decker, been watching for years. The editing and video cuts on this one are fantastic. Keep this level of quality going my dude

[@avocus]

I love the way you've integrated your like and subscribe reminders into the movie

[@yupanquid5538]

Ooooohhh i loved that interactive section of the review! Cheers Decker

[@azathoththe3rd]

Something I thought was a missed opportunity was William being suprise Zeak somehow managed to escape from the hand cuffs without cutting off his arm. Then he could do a quick pat down on his pants and realize he dropped one of his bobby pins by mistake

[@jadedcrusader1767]

I just realized that you changed your format a little, love the chapters built into the video, makes it feel more professional... more in-line of a triple A review...

[@alanmanson1089]

Thanks

[@MindFiend]

Dekker "there's only one things left to do." Cuts to Chris Rock going ape in a parked car. Dekker "Watch The Predator and then get back to the investigation." Bravo, Dekker, Bravo. *applause*

[@jonwashburn7999]

Interjecting the Decker Shado plug was genius.

[@certafan]

The callback around 18:34-18:40 in to the predator review had me rolling. I watch that review whenever I'm upset and it's just so cathartic seeing Decker go ballistic. Glad to see it's stuck with him lol Prey tho 😳

[@ziplockcreations2313]

Now I have a hankering to play the Dreamcast.

[@derekedwards5390]

Awesome video man! Love your saw character definitely great hair!! Keep up the great work!

[@alienduderules6883]

How did the killer escape, the SWAT team was right there? He used some sort of secret elevator passage?

[@liliesrnice]

I love this review because I hadn't wanted to see it since it got such bad reviews but now I'll watch it.

[@realong2506]

Had the baddy figured out from the start of the review. It's always the new guy in horror movies. Haven't seen the movie and probably won't but I enjoy watching your reviews no matter what you review.

[@aidanvalenti1523]

Great video Decker! I love it. I hope you keep making video's

[@nellenbacher]

Loved that cameo there, if you did that voice props, if you didn't still well done. Love seeing how much your content has evolved. Keep it up! Do you!

[@EpicJasonX9000]

yeah, I really don't understand the hate behind this movie either. it's definitely better than Jigsaw, and I do think Chris Rock works extremely well in crime drama, especially if you remember his role in Lethal Weapon 4. is it perfect? no. but much like Halloween Kills & Candyman (2021), there's enough going for it that actually makes it good.

[@davidmoyes7010]

Keep Candyman's name out ya f***ing mouth.

[@laughingmask3118]

I always hated the Saw franchise but I actually want this movie on my shelf now having watched this review.

[@EpicJasonX9000]

@@laughingmask3118 I've liked the Saw franchise, which has more thought & care put into it than movies like Human Centipede and Hostal, or even the Paranormal Activity films. and at least you've got Tobin Bell's commanding voice as John Kramer as well as the creativity of some of the traps.

[@jakepayne2985]

Watch the film again, maybe then you’ll realize why it’s hated. There is certainly no shortage of reasons that this thing is so super lame.

[@TheDemonsReflection]

Turns out all Decker shado needs to do to to vosplay as Weird Al is put on a festive shirt. I approve.

[@2011wordsmith]

The.. but I understand reference.... man.. Decker thank you... thank you, that was golden

[@freemovies3524]

Love the Reviews, so entertaining !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 👍

[@seventytimesevan]

Another fun fact I always see KZbin reviewers neglect to mention: popular KZbin magician and puzzle solver Chris Ramsay plays the drug dealer Speez (credited as "Crack Punk") who gets his leg broke.

[@donjean6590]

Im glad you have had time to finally review Spiral. Honestly I feel this is more in the vein of Seven(a movie I hope you do one day) than Saw. and I like that. Because truth be told from the outside thats what people would have seen. Especially if you see what his apprentices got up to. Many of those traps were no win situations. "Bad" people getting punished. John didnt really spread his message or reasoning to anyone other than the disciples. I can see how people dislike this but its nowhere near as bad as its made out to be. Enjoyed it for many of the same reasons you did. I saw it mentioned already but turning it into an Anthology with different interpretations would actually be a great way to take the series. Though I disagree in the voice. Its flat out off putting and fits the tone much better.

[@justintillman1929]

Love you, DS! Can't wait for this summer season.

[@187mrsmith]

Yay Decker Back 2 The Higher quality movies 😭🤣 I always appreciate all hos reviews but I like hearing his reactions on bigger more known movies!

[@Lukkern]

Woooo Almost Summer Special time!!!!!!!!

[@guardianbeardizer6361]

The "Oh F*ck, it's DreamcastGuy" line got me rolling. I seriously wouldn't put it past Max if he actually did something like that lol

[@that_feralghoul_reaver7657]

🤣🤣 at 13:14 I was wondering why the actor sounded like that. Then realized he had great hair.

[@bertalach]

Brilliant video as always!

[@animeknight8958]

YAY!!!! I've been waiting for you to do this film!

[@jasonxfpu]

What Happened to the Closing theme and extra notes???? That was one of the best parts of each video

[@wstine79]

This could be considered Leathal Weapon 5. Where Detective Lee Butters is hunting down the Jigsaw Killer who had his Father-in-law Murtagh killed.

[@coryames1170]

I mean Danny Glover was in the original Saw.

[@grapeshot]

Want to play chess? Global thermonuclear war.

[@titansarepeople1797]

I love the upgrades Decker has managed to obtain, but I have to agree with some of the others, I totally miss the good ol couch days.

[@davebooshty299]

You forgot to mention that they actually show 1 quick Photo of John Kramer during it all too.

[@Imsleepeebruh]

The internet has ruined me. I knew exactly what comic/meme decker referred to and was like 'is this fucking loss?"

[@diabolos5148]

Love the review. Mad props for the "Bring the Pain" reference.

[@WUBRGTheCardHoarder]

Liking and commenting for the algorithm and because Decker is the man!

[@imnotsuperstitiousbutiamal4186]

'If they don't show the body then the mofo ain't dead" Abraham Lincoln-1860

[@WhyOhWhyPhi]

My main complaint is how lazy they telegraphed who the killer was since he was the only one w/o any kind of flashback showing how he was captured or the actual "trap" itself. It was like "yup, it's him then..." The story had promise, but didn't realize its potential. Also the new voice was awful. Completely ruins the tone they were trying to set. I shouldn't be snickering, holding back laughter when the killer is talking.

[@JenMistress]

With that whole Forrest Gump scene, think I've figured out the true back story of what happened at The Oscars. Chris Rock just really wants there to be a GI Jane 2 made is all. 😉😂🤣

[@dankreddy]

I actually enjoyed this movie as well. However I am definitely thinking that this is going to be a trilogy, if they keep on going. Particularly when you read the title - book of saw, most books have a beginning, a middle and an end. This is the first which shows a fake jigsaw, if they make the 2nd, I wouldnt be surprised if we see a return of either Hoffman or Logan as the real jigsaw or both....and then the last one will ChrisR getting revenge on the fake jigsaw, and then getting taken down by by either Hoffman or Logan.

[@leroygrant7635]

When they showed Sam Jackson, I swore you put that clip in there from another movie! I didn't know Sam was in this movie!😅😅😅😅

[@nobodyjustacreep]

The guy who ends up being the killer is the same guy in Horns.

[@Mr00Chief00]

While not a terrible film in any way, it was awfully cliched in some places and felt like a throwback to the standard 80's cop buddy flicks. I understood who the killer was way before the reveal due to the sloppy way that "1 kill" was framed into the story in a very diifferent way as opposed to all the other ones. I would say 3 hobos splattered on the 5 oclock train.

[@robertfeldmann542]

great work thanks for getting to this been waiting

[@ddaman7854]

9:56... Nice one Decker!

[@tristanhartup4936]

I practically knew who the killer was from the moment I saw the first trailer.

[@ryanfaust7400]

Miss those highlight music video side notes at the end 😢

[@sesfilmsllc]

15:29 Played by famous KZbin Magician Chris Ramsay.

[@Thunderybeans]

Hahahahahahahahaha damn, Decker outdoes himself every time with his pitch to subscribe, like, comment, and ring the thingiemabobs. Awesome. Seamless and unexpected transition. Pure genius! I pity the fool that doesn't subscribe to his channel.

[@laughingmask3118]

No joke it took me a minute to realize it WASN'T the Spiral killer but was Decker plugging the subscribe button XD bravo, Decker; you had me!

[@starkilr101]

I like all the Chris Rock standup references. Well done

[@EpicJasonX9000]

I get to watch the new Decker Shado review while also continue to color in my fan art of Riptor from Killer Instinct. fun times. ^-^

[@juanandrescaceres4771]

it should exist just a whole show where 3 writer makes the best Saw traps ... those who win get hired to make better traps for the movies... you don't even have to name the victims, only their crimes and the trap related... good review Decker !

[@danielwalton5385]

I've never been too into the Saw movies myself. I saw the first one and wasn't impressed or really entertained so I didn't bother with the others for a good number of years. I eventually saw them but still just not my thing. Neither Saw and Hostel rang my bell so I moved along. Loved the pig-faced killer you got there though. Great stuff Decker Keep it coming

[@greenkoopa]

Just rewatched the Summer of Saw on Monday

[@Giran_0]

Why didn't Chris notice the was not out going message or call to the dudes wife on his phone

[@HurricaneDDragon]

I’ll never forget that I guessed who the killer was just from watching the trailer.

[@jrb9191]

I enjoyed it and it felt like a fresh beginning. It was easy to figure out once they skipped over the one guys test.

[@donovan6206]

Main problem wit this movie was that i guessed who the killer was as soon as he showed up on screen. Like i really thought it was so obvious that there was gonna be a second twist after he was unmasked. Ik ive seen alot of horror movies and saw movies but like i really dont see how anyone could have suspected anyone else

[@eddihurta7173]

I'm probably the only one who watches THE PREDATOR review over and over again

[@TheVgrey]

Funny self advertisement decker should pop more depending on the review theme

[@Trainwheel_Time]

Avoiding all low hanging fruit slap jokes... I applaud you sir.

[@RogueAgentMusic]

its dreamcast guy! lmao that made me laugh that was an awesome shoutout

[@thejohniesttsunamiest2111]

That was one of the cleanest like and subscribe segways I've ever seen lmao very nice sir

[@orsdekany2594]

I think the main reason why everyone hated the movie, is the twist. 5 mins after showing the dead skinless guy, without showing the trap, made it obvious, and ppl loved the hilariously overcomplicated plots.

[@FloweredAngelFilms]

Ooooo... it's the Return of the Summer of Saw! I forgot all about "Spiral" missing from the line up.

[@camsterdam3896]

Love ya decker

[@faceless2302]

the jigsaw sketches and voice were hilarious

[@retrogamelover2012]

3:38-4:06 Well, considering what Chris pretty much had to deal with at the Oscars, I'd say it might as well be kind of funny that, after this movie came out, where his character basically goes all "oh woe is me" on the fact that he's basically not allowed to use dehumanizing slurs, or claim that people are "too sensitive" to allow films like Forest Gump to be made, he pretty much got called out and slapped for insulting someone's wife.

[@kitvar2685]

"Oh fuck its DreamCast guy" 😂

[@SirNerdLeroy]

I was annoyed when the movie decided to have Schenk's baby cry with that royalty free audio that they used so much in Arthur, but at least we find out the baby wasn't real so the audio choice feels more like a hint that something was up more than the studio being too lazy to get a different sound.

[@Ironcabbit]

“No way to tell who this guy is…”. I see what you did there.

[@MFD00MTR33]

Here's your new partner, a rookie. So that's the killer right? He's going to be the killer, like 99.9% sure its him. Yup, it was him. Saw it from a mile away.

[@fyrentenimar]

Is it weird that I suspected the new guy to be the killer immediately? Love your stuff Decker.

[@atbender89]

Just finished watching Spiral yesterday and had to watch this review. Big fan of the franchise, and i really liked this movie. The points that are being made about the differences between the movies is accurate. This isnt Jogsaw, and as Decker pointed out, it would be crazy to think that Jigsaw planned all of this to happen. The whole concept of the traps is twisted on itself. Where as Jigsaw saw it as a means of rehabilitation. This killer was just using it for killing. The means by which he chose to kill paired well with each victim. And the final kill, it thought was almost telegraphing a trademark that he could use if there are any.ore movies. The movie was good as it was and to compare it to the other saw movies is fair but abit rushed. Maybe if thry make more with this killer and they connect, there could be a better comparison.

[@skyfinger9319]

Damn when I saw spiral I thought you where gonna talk about the Japanese horror movie

[@jugghead82]

Awesome review I liked Spiral as well

[@stanleyteriaca2184]

Great use of the villain's voice for your like, support, subscribe thing.

[@RunyaEithelNar]

Writing comment at the beginning of the video to see it all before Jigsaw strikes down this review!.

[@wanderingwolfos9479]

Yooooo Decker! Soooo… about that Saw X trailer… I dunno about you but I’m hella excited! It’s gonna be expensive, but I’m going to try to get the big tub of buttered popcorn for this one! Normally I’m too broke, buuuuuut I’m making an exception this time