Spiral Wrap - Why and How

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[@ramoutdoors6415]

Not an idiot Florida! That was a very good explanation of a spiral/acid wrap, one of the best. Gary Loomis gave a very good explanation of it also. I will be doin the same. Thumbs up and great vid! Richard from Kansas;)

[@fdxcustomrods]

Thanks Richard. I tried to show a visual so it made sense to everyone. Thanks for watching, Lee.

[@ramoutdoors6415]

@@fdxcustomrods Lee, it was perfect man!

[@tomosedwards8369]

Thanks for the vid! Has inspired me to try it.

[@fdxcustomrods]

Awesome, thank you, Tomos

[@janethennies9623]

I just went over to a rod builders house in Breezy Pt, Mn today. He teaches classes and is a great guy. I needed a couple parts. He’s a Batson rep. I asked if he could critique my first couple builds. He said I screwed up the spine. I thought I had it right. He then told me about a cat fisherman named Roberts who developed the spiral wrap as in your video. He showed a couple rods he built with this guide pattern. Craziest thing I’ve ever seen. Might try it. Fun to see his shop.

[@fdxcustomrods]

That sounds like a fun day.

[@todddivelbliss4706]

Another great video I love the knowledge and experience and the reason why you do things the way you do them. I told you today I was ordering some rods after we get back home well they will be spiral wrap

[@fdxcustomrods]

I told you when you fished with one of mine, it was going to cost you...😀

[@mmacionk2]

I've bought a SLX rod a time ago, since I used it mostly for fishing techniques that I needed good sensibility, I tryied rewraping it's guides for a spiral wrap, and I tell you, it improved the rod's sonsibility a LOT

[@fdxcustomrods]

The difference in performance is amazing

[@LunkerFishing]

Interesting idea. I never built a spiral wrapped rod......yet.

[@fdxcustomrods]

Yet is the key word in this crazy hobby...😁

[@EdwardSmith27]

Love your videos

[@fdxcustomrods]

Thanks for Watching!

[@daveengstrom9250]

Absolute genius.

[@fdxcustomrods]

Thanks

[@kelvinlloysellis5976]

Makes perfect sense to me thanks for the explanation. Would I be correct in assuming the spine should be at the bottom of the rod?

[@fdxcustomrods]

Yes sir, that is correct. Thanks for watching.

[@unclecosmo5364]

I own (and still use) several spiral wrap rods built by Rich Forhan over 20 years ago.

[@fdxcustomrods]

Yep, this is not a new idea.

[@ronaldrapmund4901]

Great video iv been looking at makeing one what would your guides layout would be for a 6'6" rod

[@fdxcustomrods]

That depends on the manufacturer, power, and action.

[@BigTimeFishin]

Cool.

[@fdxcustomrods]

Thanks for watching

[@jarrodbriggs8246]

A question about the layout and guides. Would you use single foot microwave air guides on a heavy rod like this with being spiral wrapped. I know there’s a few ways of securing the guides just wondering if theyed hold up? Last was wondering how many guides you ended up with.

[@fdxcustomrods]

First, I don't belive that Microwave casting guides give you much advantage on a spiral wrapped rod, but they don't detract either. Guide number and placement will be determined in a static load test. See my video on guide placement and testing I did a month ago.

[@tonyduran4764]

I've been debating on whether or not make a spiral wrapped rod. I may just have to do it.

[@fdxcustomrods]

You will not be disappointed.

[@stevencurrie5385]

I’m building a 6’10”’ casting wrod with spiral wraps guides. I’m having hard time with rod spacing. Using other rods to go off but what would you recommend

[@fdxcustomrods]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iqCVaGOlmqtkic0 This should explain how to figure it out.

[@jamesshelton2125]

should u do this on all rods or just flipping rods?? like crankbait rods or moving baits ??

[@fdxcustomrods]

I use a spiral wrap on almost every rod I build.

[@BarnwellFishing]

Where is the spine in correlation to the the end of the rod I guess what I'm trying to ask is do you use the spine like regular casting or do you do it like a spinning rod use the spline on the inside at the end of the pole or do you use the spine on the outside and at the end of the pole?

[@fdxcustomrods]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYvdZpyZl6iMjM0 This might help. I put the natural bend of the rod on the down side as you fish it.

[@craigcampbell2687]

Hi, do you need to use a larger guide eye opening for first 2 guides. I am building a 7 foot med heavy casting rod and want to spiral wrap. Thanks

[@fdxcustomrods]

I wouldn't start with less than an 8. You will likely have to use 4 guides in your spital to keep the line from touching the blank.

[@craigcampbell2687]

@@fdxcustomrods Thanks

[@craigcampbell2687]

@@fdxcustomrods Funny thing happened. I had the guides in place for casting guides in top held in place with bands and tip top glued. I started to load it up with line through all guides and tip top. The guides closest to the top of blank with a load on rolled over to the bottom. Will be doing spiral wrap for sure after seeing that. Thanks for the videos.

[@fdxcustomrods]

In the chaos part 2 video coming soon, I spiraled a big boy blank, starting with and 8, and it required a stripper and two transition guides.

[@mikeensor9012]

I have a custom built “Roberts wrapped” rod , at least that’s what the gentleman who built it for me 30 years ago told me!

[@fdxcustomrods]

Nice! That a collectors piece.

[@sebessorok1393]

Hi! I like video! Why didn't you use 4 spiral guides with the first 0° 45° 135° 180° rotation? 0° 90° 90° 180° is better?

[@fdxcustomrods]

It depends on the diameter of the blank and the height of the guides. You can do it any way you want and does not appear to effect the performance. I just keep it as simple as possible.

[@sebessorok1393]

​@@fdxcustomrods I undestand! Many thanks!👍

[@dougsmith7031]

To be optimal, and increase line efficiency, you need 1 more transition guide.

[@fdxcustomrods]

I've tested a lot of rods, and on some of the larger diameter rods, it takes 2 transition guides. But on most small diameter blanks, only 1 guide is necessary.

[@kelvinmodeste7549]

Can you effectively use a spinning reel on that rod?

[@fdxcustomrods]

No. It is strictly a bait caster rod that has the benefit of no rotational torque on the blank.

[@aaronwilde]

I fish bait casters almost exclusively and have bought and built many now, and all have been built traditionally with guides UP. I have never broken a tip once, even using light gear on larger fish. I truly believe that tip breaks are almost always due to abuse of the relatively more delicate and thin top section. I even think many situations where I broke my rod in the thicker lower sections have been to my weight bouncing into the blank while I have the hook in the keeper and bush whack. Although some blanks seem to take that abuse. I did try to make a spiral wrap once but I did the version where there is only one transitional guide and I didn't like it. Maybe the two transitional guide version would be better for long medium action Salmon/Steelhead float fishing rods. I'm about to test guide placement on a 9 foot rod and will mess around some more. I build 4 piece fly blanks into bait casters so I can pack them easily, and I find the ferrules come crooked after fishing a lot. I wonder if that could be eliminated by spiral wrapping and thus having no rotational torque... hmmm. I also never really spine the rod as from my research the blanks are tested in all directions and I like to build on the straightest line instead, but maybe your point about spinning it evenly for rotational torque could come into play there too.. Cheers

[@fdxcustomrods]

Thanks for your input and perspective , Aaron.

[@angeldelarosajr341]

Would you recommend on a surf rod

[@fdxcustomrods]

I would recommend this technique for any casting rod. Actually, the heavier the rod rod, the more effective it can be.