Spirit of Norfolk Lost; Spar Lyra Not Under Command; Victory Rover, Z-ONE & others to the Rescue!

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@FlyingDoctor60
@FlyingDoctor60 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll bet the pilot on Spar Lyra needed a couple of adult beverages after that series of events. I sure would have…wow! Great job by everyone involved.
@veramae4098
@veramae4098 2 жыл бұрын
I emailed my U.S. Senator, cited your channel, asked her to look into some recognition for everyone's efforts.
@steveholton4130
@steveholton4130 2 жыл бұрын
Sal, I absolutely concur with your shout out all responders - Hell of a Job People! While I'm at it, I want to shout out to Thomas Gordon Davis if he is still at the Harbor Captain's Office⚓
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 2 жыл бұрын
Now that we’ve had a serious cruise boat incident, wonder if USCG will be looking at all similar vessels and going over safety practices with other crews nationwide. Being lucky is not a strategy no matter how positive this incident outcome. PS - The MV Conception sinking occurred on September 2, 2019, when the 75-foot dive boat caught fire and sank off the coast of Santa Cruz Island, California. It seems that only now is some regulatory action being taken. Lessons Learned are only Lessons Observed if no action is taken.
@billmoran3812
@billmoran3812 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That got pretty intense very fast! Excellent seamanship by everyone involved! Thanks for bringing this story to us.
@longcaster
@longcaster 2 жыл бұрын
Man, that's a lot going on, fast. Everyone did way better than they needed too.
@bluespruce786
@bluespruce786 2 жыл бұрын
Truly historic video, thanks for taking the time to preserve it and give it some context. Sadly this video will see serious compression as time passes on youtube, it might be worth storing a copy somewhere else. Thanks again for taking the time to put this up!
@tinacatharinaeden2711
@tinacatharinaeden2711 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! So many people worked on avoiding an awful accident! Well done everyone!
@robertf3479
@robertf3479 2 жыл бұрын
A thoroughly professional job by the watermen, dealing with the fire and evacuation and then having the Spar Lyra break down at the worst possible moment. They made it look easy even though I know it wasn't. At the end of the day everyone was able to go home safely, that is the most important thing. Sorry to see this happen to Spirit of Norfolk, she's been a fixture here in Hampton Roads for as long as I can remember.
@ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe
@ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe 2 жыл бұрын
Lessons learned is how we continue to make things more safe and secure. Keep up the great work professor.
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I will
@mattc.310
@mattc.310 2 жыл бұрын
That was quite an incident. It unfolded very quickly. It's a shame they wouldn't save the Spirit of Norfolk. Thanks for the update.
@johnbrossack3791
@johnbrossack3791 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like everyone knew what needed to be done and did it. I've been out of pocket for a couple of weeks and haven't seen any of your recent videos. I was happy to see a video with a good outcome by folks who knew what needed to be done. Thanks.
@turbofanlover
@turbofanlover 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing footage. Great vid, Sal. Thanks.
@MarieMcDonald-ty5tb
@MarieMcDonald-ty5tb 2 жыл бұрын
Simply team work. Avoiding disaster.
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars
@mostlyvoid.partiallystars 9 ай бұрын
Those tug captains and crews are freaking amazing.
@RTmadnesstoo
@RTmadnesstoo 2 жыл бұрын
Watching your first video I questioned 108 kids and parents herded orderly and efficiently by 2 crew. Great video!
@garrettivey160
@garrettivey160 2 жыл бұрын
Deckhand on the tug challenger here! The whole situation was pure chaos, only thing that kept it cool was everyone’s stellar seamanship. I’m trying to find if there’s any NTSB reports or anything new come out recently now that some time has passed. Thank you for creating such a thorough video!
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Garrett...Outstanding job! The NTSB will be at least a year before the report is released.
@meljor90
@meljor90 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see when people say Norfolk correctly haha Glad to see all the boats/tugs that came to the rescue of multiple near major catastrophes. 🤙🏾 Bravo Been on the spirit of Norfolk a couple times throughout the years. It will definitely be missed buy the city, was definitely an icon.
@mikeray1544
@mikeray1544 2 жыл бұрын
Tugs at wide open throttle...Master Operators at the Helm Sir-
@n4837z
@n4837z 2 жыл бұрын
Sal, Thanks very much for this update and important details. Don't think I heard this, "rest of the story" on the MM? It would make an exciting mini-documentary movie. Appreciate what you are doing!!
@ginog5037
@ginog5037 2 жыл бұрын
Wow...job well done to all involved. Great follow up Sal.
@peterbailey5237
@peterbailey5237 2 жыл бұрын
Spar Lyra loss of propulsion was possibly due to bad fuel. There was a second ship with a loss of power in the channel that day, possibly also due to bad fuel provided by the same vendor.
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Peter...thanks for the info.
@Bayrunner87
@Bayrunner87 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it was bad fuel. When a large, laden ship making headway goes from ahead to astern it can sometimes stall the ship’s engine. I’ve seen it happen several times before. The ship’s engine has to overcome a lot of momentum.
@billr1129
@billr1129 2 жыл бұрын
Well done by all
@mikecowan1471
@mikecowan1471 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@robertferrand4906
@robertferrand4906 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT EDITING!!!!!
@wesryman
@wesryman 2 жыл бұрын
Thank ya Sal, said in my best old man voice
@cherokee43v6
@cherokee43v6 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting to see this incident juxtaposed against the Bonhomme Richard incident.
@timothywalker4563
@timothywalker4563 2 жыл бұрын
“Well done” to all involved passengers safe and fire out! Does make me wonder why couldn’t some type of dedicated fire boat be Bought, that would be a floating insurance policy for the port🤔
@TeamChums
@TeamChums 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they release transcripts of the radio traffic.
@cherokee43v6
@cherokee43v6 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! I'd particularly like to hear what was said when Spar Lyra lost propulsion... Those tugs moved like the F-18's in Tom Cruise's latest movie. ;)
@littlepaddy7444
@littlepaddy7444 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the update. Is it just me or are modern marine diesels more prone to losing power or shutting down than older engines? They seem as bad as late model truck engines. How about a what is going on with engines video?
@captiannemo1587
@captiannemo1587 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness old big dumb engines can be more difficult to get going… even if they are harder to kill.
@phillipbartowsky2979
@phillipbartowsky2979 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing what competent people ready to act can do. Sad that port authorities and naval bases can’t employ their own boats and people to stand ready to do just that with the latest purpose built tools
@turnbank3492
@turnbank3492 2 жыл бұрын
Dang busy day at the office
@thefallenlettuce2797
@thefallenlettuce2797 2 жыл бұрын
My citys flag ship has been destroyed. Very sad for us.
@MrTimbeatty
@MrTimbeatty 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure why Fed Fire wouldn't use this as a training exercise. Free boat to use. "Too Dangerous" isn't going to be an acceptable reason not to save a military vessel even if everyone has been removed safely. Seems that at the very minimum they could use it to implement their plan and see if it works.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 2 жыл бұрын
I know of a least one military vessel that burned to the waterline.
@johnandrews23
@johnandrews23 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the Chief Engineer of the Spar Lyra might have trouble finding work in the future...
@papadonttakenomess1764
@papadonttakenomess1764 2 жыл бұрын
Ripping yarns of high seas action.
@youreckonso
@youreckonso 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like everything is being run decently and in order....
@neemtreebark
@neemtreebark 2 жыл бұрын
I have to catch up on your channel😁 I got more people problems..Fun, fun fun.
@rcl3514
@rcl3514 2 жыл бұрын
How much warning did Spar Lyra have that there was an emergency in the channel before they came to it?
@ferdberfil8224
@ferdberfil8224 2 жыл бұрын
What caused the fire? I have to say that your video on the unfolding drama is excellent!
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
It started in the engine room, but the cause is unknown.
@sunsetlights100
@sunsetlights100 2 жыл бұрын
Back in early 1900s might of been different result
@mattguey-lee4845
@mattguey-lee4845 2 жыл бұрын
All in all it was a crisis well managed. It could have easily ended up being like MV Sewol or Costa Concordia.
@madpete6438
@madpete6438 2 жыл бұрын
No medals - just "lots of thanks" seems a bit lightweight given the personal risk for the seamen/women.... Typical - call them hero's, give thanks, quickly forget... It is good that you are highlighting their efforts - I just hope that there are some civil servants with enough nouse to see that these people need public recognition - this is required when people risk their lives for others in extremis. Carry on Sal !
@ArtVanAuggie
@ArtVanAuggie 2 жыл бұрын
Responsibility is to the passengers, then the crew, then the vessel; THEN to the passengers, crew, and vessel in distress. Nothing more and nothing less is expected. There is no thanks, just duty. Every life or vessel saved is thanks enough, and everyone feels the same.
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@madpete6438
@madpete6438 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArtVanAuggie I think that a shake of the hand and public acknowledgement is a civilised thing to do when there is so much carnage avoided. I understand duty but even soldiers get recognition....
@ArtVanAuggie
@ArtVanAuggie 2 жыл бұрын
@@madpete6438 Only recognition needed is eye contact and maybe a nod from another sailor. Old saying, "you have to go out, you don't have to come back."
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 2 жыл бұрын
Sal, my question is 100+ passengers and only 2 crew. The children were a combination of preschool and 5th graders. Did the boat have lifejackets for preschool children. I also didn't see any rafts. There are a number of excursion/harbor tour craft in the US. I don't recall seeing a crew passenger ratio like that. Especially with pre-school aged children. I agree this was an absolute, there is a god, miracle..
@robg9236
@robg9236 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn't the USCG specify the number of OSs and ABs carried? I don't know what kind of paperwork the hotel workers carry, but I don't think they are trained in handling passengers in an emergency.
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@robg9236 Hotel staff don't have maritime training unless they do. I am looking for actual footage of the evacuation onto the second boat. The added passengers had to exceed their coi. I know an emergency supercedes that. Adding 100+ to that boat wasn't idea either. We had miracle on the Hudson. Now we have miracle on the Chesapeake.
@Bayrunner87
@Bayrunner87 2 жыл бұрын
There were more than 2 marine crew. 2 captains, a senior deckhand, and 3 deckhands. More than are normally carried in fact.
@thereissomecoolstuff
@thereissomecoolstuff 2 жыл бұрын
@@Bayrunner87 that isn't what was reported. It was a captain and a first mate..the first mate was apparently the relief captain. Why wouldn't they report that as part of the story. Also shouldn't there have been firefighting ppe and scba on the boat? Can you cite your information.
@tedmoss
@tedmoss 2 жыл бұрын
@@thereissomecoolstuff Cited by Sal in story.
@georgesmith8113
@georgesmith8113 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍👊
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
This video features the VHF CH 16 call from Spirit of Norfolk to US Coast Guard asking for assistance. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5rHoWauhb1reas
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 2 жыл бұрын
As President Biden would say: "Thank you, Sal!"
@madpete6438
@madpete6438 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah what was that about - i missed the reason he said that...
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
The guy who introduced him was named Sal. I could not resist it.
@morthomer5804
@morthomer5804 2 жыл бұрын
How does a power plant "go down" just because they reduced throttle? . Wait. You are supposed to end each video with Crazy Uncle Joe saying: THANKS SAL
@wgowshipping
@wgowshipping 2 жыл бұрын
Mort...I may have to do that.
@tissuepaper9962
@tissuepaper9962 2 жыл бұрын
If you yank the throttle back to idle too quickly in any engine it can cause a stall AFAIK. I know you're very specifically trained in aviation to always be smooth with the throttle, especially in an emergency, I think it has something to do with trying to not create a sudden lean condition in the engine. Your car does this smoothing automatically, both for emissions reasons and for driveability. Another thing is that not all engines are infinitely throttleable, some engines need to be at a minimum of as much as 10-20% throttle to run at all, but I don't know if that applies to the gigantic diesels in these vessels. It could be that they flubbed the throttle and pulled it so far back as to kill the engine. To be clear, I've never set foot on the bridge of any vessel (not even a museum ship), this is just general knowledge about ICEs and their limitations.
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