Spiritual teachers and bait and switch?

QUESTION: Hi Kim,
Is it the specific Ascended Master who is working with the student in embodiment or the I AM Presence of the student who decides what will specifically be used as the bait & switch to motivate the novice student to make as much spiritual progress as he / she can?
What if a terrible miscalculation happens and this bait and switch will infinitely supercharge an existing attachment of the student?
What if this overcharged attachment has been causing incredible amounts of pain for this student for almost 2 decades?
Is what we see in the bait and switch vision always a careless lie by the Ascended Masters and our I AM Presence? Or is it a promise that if we make maximum progress on our spiritual path, we can manifest in real life what we saw in the bait and switch vision?

[@zanaros2606]

My 2nd vision is roughly a day or so later after the 1st vision, something about witnessing some seemingly important white robed dude in some kind of a spiritual colosseum(not the very naughty roman kind, but the more positive and regal kind), who was standing in front of thousands of people surrounding and facing him. That important dude raised his arms, we all raised our arms together with him, and I was one of the many in that hundreds and possibly thousands of audiences. We all felt very uplifted and One. Then I find myself instantly back in my body at home. (I remember I was simply walking towards the living room in my home when my consciousness suddenly shifted to that place. Before returning to my body again.) I then have fragments of memories of weird places I've been to, in some place where I either fly or teleport everywhere, etc. But after a while these random flashes of visions and memories completely disappeared. Gave me a strange sense of bliss and peace, that lasted for roughly a few days...before that bliss is completely gone too.

[@Coral-h4c1]

I feel like some ascended masters do exactly that, enflame the attachment because then you have no choice but to feel the pain. I got a strong sense it's all about facing the pain and nothing else really. More pain = more progress. I guess it can be easily confused with self mortification, but giving up pleasure is not self-mortification. The only problem with this method is that it is unpleasant, because me personally I don't want to feel pain, yet I hide these attachments and avoiding them doesn't fix anything and is a long term strategy that leads to failure (but the example I am making is not about getting someone stuck, more about gradually giving things up for the sake of a better goal than a dopamine hit)

[@misawisdom1805]

This questioner is talking about vision addiction. Normally, dedicated spiritual people do Not become addicted to alcohol, drugs, sex etc. Therefore, ego or dark forces use vision to control over spiritual people to stop their progress. The truth of seeing vision and trying to manifest the vision only limits you. However, in many cases your visions are very accurate until you become a vision addict. Ego and dark forces are very clever…… Warning visions are often exceptions. How to distinguish between false visions and warning vision is that you need to read the vibration. Always Ascended Masters are radiating unconditional love so vibrations are very high. I was a vision addict temporarily (for about 15 years). And I overcame it. It took 5-6 years to pass 96th initiation after overcoming vision addiction.

[@kimmichaels-po4wz]

Vision addiction is a very useful concept or observation.

[@zanaros2606]

Oh I had a vision before!! I once had my waking consciousness transported to some kind of a lone hill, and suddenly saw this terrifying and tremendously huge Sun rising right in front of me, leaving me in a complete awe, and then I was sent straight back to my body that is still listening to the teacher and taking down notes in the classroom. Tried to draw the vision on a notebook, and kept thinking what it's supposed to mean. But anyway, this vision set me up on a path of seeking spiritual teachings and something more to life itself. Is this vision possibly sent by the ascended masters, maybe as some kind of a spiritual trigger to get me to eventually discover the ascended master teachings some time later? I remember I had zero interest in spirituality back when I was very young. Then this strange and symbolic vision got me to think that maybe, just maybe there is indeed so much more to life itself. It's 1 of 2 visions I experienced before in my entire lifetime. No more visions after I became an adult. Maybe the ascended masters Human Resource department completely forgot about me.

[@Coral-h4c1]

Don't you think that the thought process "there is something out there in relation to me" is wrong in itself?

[@zanaros2606]

@Coral-h4c1 yeah, who knows...maybe my entire interest in the spiritual teachings, is out of an egoistical desire, hahaha! Could be that the cunning ego sent me that strange vision to trick me into western spirituality, back when I was still studying in school. Or maybe it's actually schizophrenia, but I mistook it as a "vision". These are some of the various other possibilities I also feared and considered back then. Got me nervous for a while, being afraid it might be the start of schizophrenia. But anyway the net result seems...good? Since I became a much less impulsive and competitive person after I studied spirituality. No longer hate God so much. Even became a vegetarian for a year. But I still haven't overcome my ego.

[@Coral-h4c1]

@@zanaros2606 Kim recently spoke about this repeatedly, there is no outside entity you can put the blame on, it is you there is nobody else in there

[@Markko82-je6cq]

When I see you wandering in the bondage of the mind, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Instead of seeking what is you, you have become attached to past experiences. Because the mind still lives between the past and the future. And this constant "I can't understand", "I have to know the truth", "I want to be a spiritual person". The mind, mind, still mind, plays with its own mind like a dog chasing its own tail.

[@Coral-h4c1]

All these visions seem like just a way to distract oneself from reality