Should Non brahmins Conduct Temple Rituals ?| Sadhguru

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@vidaripollen
@vidaripollen 15 күн бұрын
Bhramin r favorite punching bag of all n sundry...being the community that somehow kept continuity of ancient vedas....right down to modern era...
@Snowfluffy123
@Snowfluffy123 9 күн бұрын
so true. the other communities completely forget that they also do a lot of discrimination with everyone. If they want to read vedas , who is stopping them. they won't because there is not enough money in becoming an ascetic brahmin . no money or power. rest of the communities are only interested in money and power.
@naghulboy
@naghulboy 7 күн бұрын
What is the traditional occupation of Brahmins? If it is solely performing pooja at temples or other religious rituals, then why are there many Brahmins serving as judges, doctors, and holding top positions in companies both in India and abroad? If Brahmins can excel in various fields, why can't individuals from other communities undergo training to enter the sanctum sanctorum and conduct poojas? We do not require intermediaries between devotees and God. I believe that God created all beings as equals and does not discriminate. It is only the ideology of Brahminism and those who adhere to it that perpetuate discrimination in order to maintain power and enjoy the benefits associated with temples.
@vidaripollen
@vidaripollen 7 күн бұрын
@Snowfluffy123 also its a life of numerous restrictions n so much hard work...mugging up the mantras, correct intonation etc
@Snowfluffy123
@Snowfluffy123 6 күн бұрын
@ u r right
@kbmnair2182
@kbmnair2182 17 күн бұрын
In Kerala many communities have set up teaching the course with examination for giving training to the students for Priesthood. Please do this in all the States.
@dynasticpoliticscorruption7053
@dynasticpoliticscorruption7053 17 күн бұрын
Are transgenders also included?
@Userhyuu8ii
@Userhyuu8ii 17 күн бұрын
No wonder they are destroying the sanctity of temples and only temples in kerala
@Kedhar-x9m
@Kedhar-x9m 16 күн бұрын
Great job...
@dynasticpoliticscorruption7053
@dynasticpoliticscorruption7053 16 күн бұрын
@@kbmnair2182what about women entry in mosques let alone training them for priests? What about transgender as moulvis? We have temples for transgenders but what about other religions? You should take it up .
@santoshbannur
@santoshbannur 15 күн бұрын
Kerala is not an example at all. A communist government elected democratically in a secular country controlling temples - this is absurd's absurd.... Better left to religion
@lakshmivenkatrangan129
@lakshmivenkatrangan129 17 күн бұрын
Not all temples have brahmin priests...priests from other castes also do the rituals according to the deity presiding...even brahmin devotees go there,&such deities are sometimes their kuladaivam&eldest daughter&son wl b named after the deity...like we hv Muni venkatesh in an iyengar family
@Anonymous-pj1xk
@Anonymous-pj1xk 17 күн бұрын
This is through out the India, majority of the temples in India ,including some famous temples are belong to Non- brahmin communities with non-Brahmin Priests. They have their own rituals and ways to worship, that is different than Brahminic way(Vedic/Puranic). Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, Bahujan Samaj(Shudras and Dalits), Non- Adivasi Tribals, and Adivasis have their own temples and their own priests, even many of their Gods are different from Puranic Gods. For e.g. In Maharashtra, Famous Tulja Bhawani temple belong to Bahujan Samaj( Marathas and Kunbis(Farmers)) , priests are Marathas(Lower status Kshatriyas), Goddess Tulja Bhawani is worshipped by all upper casts and also kul-devata of many Brahmin families. Another e.g. of Goddess Ekvira, temple, Pune, Maharashtra belong to Fisherfolk(Kolis) and Aagri communities of Bahujan samaj , priests are Fisherfolks(Kolis), worshipped by all, and Goddess Ekvira is kuldevata of Upper cast Kshatriyas and Brahmins. In Himalayan belt many temples are belong to Khus tribals and have their Non- Brahmin Khus tribal priests. What I mean to say, most of the Non- Brahmin communities in India have their own temples and Priests , then why Sadguru wants to replace Brahmin priests from Brahmin temples(Vedic / puranic) with non-Brahmin priests?
@sanjaysurya6840
@sanjaysurya6840 14 күн бұрын
​@@Anonymous-pj1xkwell said 💯
@Anonymous-pj1xk
@Anonymous-pj1xk 14 күн бұрын
@@sanjaysurya6840 Thank You, 🙏
@anuradhaarun3713
@anuradhaarun3713 14 күн бұрын
​@@Anonymous-pj1xk What Sadguru said is for the temples that follow aagama shaashtras. You have such great knowledge about varieties of temples & priests which co exist beautifully in our land. Again as you said, these are fewer in numbers. You should be able to understand that in most temples Vaidika, aagama & tantrika shaasthras are followed & this requires training in these. A Brahmin is one who has studied the Brahma vidya - Vedas & Shaasthras. The casteist usage is the spoiler!
@Anonymous-pj1xk
@Anonymous-pj1xk 13 күн бұрын
​@@anuradhaarun3713 I just gave the few e.g. of famous big temples own by non- Brahmin communities in India, I think Bahujan temples are more in number in India than Brahminic temples, because in India majority population is 80 % Bahujan samaj and non- Aadivaasi Tribals who never followed Vaidik/Puranic/Aagamic or Tantrik shastras , but have their own Gods and Goddesses and ways of worship and own Priests in temples. Since they are 80% of population, there are 1000s of ethnic groups with different beliefs and different Gods/Goddesses and temples , since most of them are poor and uneducated , their temples are small in comparison to Brahminic temples, and most of these temples worshipped by particular Ethnic group. Now days, many of these ethnic groups are converted to Buddhism or Christianity or to Islam , many of them have been accepting and attracted to main stream Hinduism and follow Brahminic/Puranic Gods/Hindu Avatar gods and many of them they have their own ethnic temples where you will find Idols of Puranic Gods and Avtaar gods, side by side to their ethnic Deities and temple priests are their own (not Brahmins), and worshipped in their own way. If Sadguru wants to train them in Vaidika, Aagama & Tantrika Shaastras, so that they can replace their traditional way of worship in their temples or if Sadguru wants to build a Temple with Non- Brahmin priest is a good idea but replacing Non-Brahmin Priest in traditional Brahmin Temple is not a good idea, as I told you many Brahmins/Kshatriyas/Vaishyas have family Gods/Kuldevatas of famous Bahujan samaj temples, and they always respected Non -Brahmins Priests in the temples and never thought of taking or grabbing their job.
@yasaswynandavareek8399
@yasaswynandavareek8399 17 күн бұрын
In my opinion, a non brahmin should not do temple rituals. Anyone can become a Brahmin if he wants by receiving the training, living the life of a Brahmin and doing the necessary rituals and other process. There is no restriction for this. Why? Can an unfit person become a soldier? Can a software engineer become a goldsmith? No right? They can become these only if they have what it takes and train in thag discipline. This is not discrimination, this is qualification needed to become something.
@demya3464
@demya3464 17 күн бұрын
Very correct, it's also mentioned by savarkar in book "jatiwad"
@kib3571
@kib3571 16 күн бұрын
What if that person is on the way to become a Brahmin?
@yasaswynandavareek8399
@yasaswynandavareek8399 16 күн бұрын
@@kib3571 I did not get the question. You mean if the person did not complete the training or still undergoing it? If that's the case the person is obviously willing to become a Brahmin and willing to learn the things, so he can do the rituals once he becomes a Brahmin.
@SundarkrishnaaKavapatti
@SundarkrishnaaKavapatti 16 күн бұрын
Sadhguru clerly says they should learn and pass the test to become that which not anyone and everyone can pass
@yasaswynandavareek8399
@yasaswynandavareek8399 16 күн бұрын
@@SundarkrishnaaKavapatti exactly, if they learn and pass the test. That means they are Brahmins and are eligible to do the rituals. I also want to bring this point for others to know, Living a Brahmin life is not easy. It needs lot of discipline and one need to give up a lot of things and luxuries in life in order to achieve that.
@spg6651
@spg6651 17 күн бұрын
Temple priest is by qualification even for Brahmin by birth people -- there is a particular course called ARCHAKA course which is administered by Mutts and where AGAMA SHASTRAs and TANTRIC SHASTRAS are taught -- I am born in Brahmin family -- Never entered GARBHA GUDI of any temple so far ( I am 57 ) and all temples I visited and prayed about 5 to 10 feet away from the Murthy ( GURBA GUDI ) .. Even the people who work inside temple , there is particular class of people ( qualified as Archakas) only go to GARBHA GUDI after taking bath in the holy Well which is meant only for Archakas ( no one else is allowed there ) .. This is the practice -- The place where I stand and worship god is the same place where all people do , be it KSHTRIYA / VAISYA / SHUDRA/PANCHAMA/ CHRITAINS and all ..
@anupk4857
@anupk4857 15 күн бұрын
I agree with you. I think these ppl are trying to destroy the parampara and have political control over Hindus. We have seen how the Ayodhya ram mandir prana pratista was mismanaged . I think these things should be given to Shankaracharya of 4 mutts to decide and show us the way.
@anuradhaarun3713
@anuradhaarun3713 14 күн бұрын
Exactly. I wonder why people cant see that! To be a Brahmana by birth & to be a Vaidika Brahmana, who has studied the Vedas, aagama & tantrika shaasthras & has undergone training to do pooja in the prescribed way are 2 different things!! Just like a constable who has joined the police force by writing a qualifying exam & an IPS officer who has studied hard & cracked the UPSC exam! A Vaidika Brahmana has to follow a strict lifestyle all his life. Whoever is willing to follow that can undergo Vaidika & Shaasthra adhyayana & do all that they do. Its a matter of qualification & dedication. The right to do pooja in a temple is not like being a class monitor to compete for.. why not him & why not her! Being a Brahmin by birth, like in all other varnas/castes, is the thing practiced now, thanks to British divide & rule policy! Varnas are divisions by profession, castes are divisions by varieties of occupation. Is this such a difficult theory for today's educated class to understand??
@spg6651
@spg6651 13 күн бұрын
@@anuradhaarun3713 They do not want to understand Verna system -- It is beneficial to bash Brahmain all the time
@ganesanr736
@ganesanr736 12 күн бұрын
@@anuradhaarun3713 In the present Scenario - No Vaidika Brahmin follow strict Life Style. Before performing Rituals in a House - I witnessed somany Vaidika Brahmins finish their Breakfast Onion Masala Dosai in Restaurants.
@Anonymous-pj1xk
@Anonymous-pj1xk 17 күн бұрын
Majority of the temples in India ,including some famous temples are belong to Non- brahmin communities with non-Brahmin Priests. They have their own rituals and ways to worship, that is different than Brahminic way(Vedic/Puranic). Kshatriyas, Vaishyas, Bahujan Samaj(Shudras and Dalits), Non- Adivasi Tribals, and Adivasis have their own temples and their own priests, even many of their Gods are different from Puranic Gods. For e.g. In Maharashtra, Famous Tulja Bhawani temple belong to Bahujan Samaj( Marathas and Kunbis(Farmers)) , priests are Marathas(Lower status Kshatriyas), Goddess Tulja Bhawani is worshipped by all upper casts and also kul-devata of many Brahmin families. Another e.g. of Goddess Ekvira, temple, Pune, Maharashtra belong to Fisherfolk(Kolis) and Aagri communities of Bahujan samaj , priests are Fisherfolks(Kolis), worshipped by all, and Goddess Ekvira is kuldevata of Upper cast Kshatriyas and Brahmins. In Himalayan belt many temples are belong to Khus tribals and have their Non- Brahmin Khus tribal priests. What I mean to say, most of the Non- Brahmin communities in India have their own temples and Priests , then why Sadguru wants to replace Brahmin priests from Brahmin temples(Vedic / puranic) with non-Brahmin priests?
@Patanjali.Sharma
@Patanjali.Sharma 17 күн бұрын
Grama devathas or kshetrapala temples are varna agnostic, since they don't rely on vedic rituals and have existed since times immemorial, it's a juvenile question and will just flare up the extreme left ecosystem to create divisions..
@jegajothi123
@jegajothi123 17 күн бұрын
This is the intention of Sanadhana dharma, Sadhguru is guiding us true path. Sanadhana dharma has limiteless opportunities, it should not be limited by some particular people. Let it shine and let is available to all humanity that's the real proud and thats the right way also. That's why we need like Sadhguru to guide us to live full-fledged life together with all the human.
@lakshmivenkatrangan129
@lakshmivenkatrangan129 11 күн бұрын
@@jegajothi123 after adi sankaracharya I haven't heard of any sarvagya who can comment on everything..
@Snowfluffy123
@Snowfluffy123 9 күн бұрын
do one thing. go and learn vedas, lead a simple austere life , eat veg food without garlic and onion. practiice sanctity of your body and home . when you can do all of this, you are capable of making this statement.
@தமிழ்ராஜன்
@தமிழ்ராஜன் 17 күн бұрын
It's time for people to know the truth. Here it is, East India Company never took over temples. British Crown took over control of Indian Administration from East India Company in 1858. In 1922, the Hindu Paripalanam Act was proposed by Ramraya Ningar, the king of Panagal, when he took charge as the chief minister of Madras Presidency. In 1927, the HR&CE board was constituted and vested with power to control and supervise administration of temples. There were further acts brought in 1951, then 1959 and again 1991 the bringing religious people into the temple administration etc.,
@nv9991
@nv9991 17 күн бұрын
Why do only the temples have such an act? Either have it for all or for none. Fair secularism?
@தமிழ்ராஜன்
@தமிழ்ராஜன் 17 күн бұрын
@@nv9991 that's nothing to do with secularism, the Churches and Mosques combined are less than one tenth. It came up to prevent specific community or set of people exploiting public.
@nabhinayyam
@nabhinayyam 12 күн бұрын
It’s easier said than to practice. Being a Brahmin is a way of life, it completely changes your daily life. It doesn’t come naturally to non- Brahmins because it’s in their DNA. Nurture can happen but that means your previous generation gave you a start as a child. Try fasting, not eating garlic, onion, being vegetarian dedicating morning and evening times for prayer, learn all the mantras and slokas appropriate for appropriate Pooja, no eating outside food for a year and see if you can become one. Now people will start saying why can’t I eat garlic, onion and meat and drink to be a priest… I am not going to waste time explaining. I’m not a Brahmin by the way, I have been trying for many years but I’m completely not there. Also, Brahmins kids don’t want to be priests anymore because of the lifestyle.
@Snowfluffy123
@Snowfluffy123 9 күн бұрын
yea these people can't go a day without eating onion or garlic or even non veg. and they want to run temples. Sure, but first make yourself worthy of it. Sadhguru said it in the best way possible.
@hatake6601
@hatake6601 8 күн бұрын
Haha superiority complex. "These people"? Haan . You know first be a human. You lack such basic quality.
@nandhi108
@nandhi108 18 күн бұрын
Profound wisdom Sadhguru Ji. Wishing authorities wake up to see global visitors to our Temple as humanity's blessings.
@kumark214
@kumark214 17 күн бұрын
What’s the profound wisdom here? Any normal huntsman with basic decency and humanity should know this. And what does he mean by liberating temples? From whom? Which temples? For whose sake?
@rajeevkunjuraman1827
@rajeevkunjuraman1827 17 күн бұрын
It had been happening over the years
@Wbuffbuff
@Wbuffbuff 16 күн бұрын
Liberated from govt
@Wbuffbuff
@Wbuffbuff 16 күн бұрын
Why everybody is talking as if the work of a priest pays in lakhs..the one who asked the wuestion should send her son or daughter as priest in a small temple, the wages are miniscule, work condition pathetic..many priests send their kids to study for other professions..it is just for argument sake these rhetorics are raised
@Wbuffbuff
@Wbuffbuff 16 күн бұрын
One who wants to become priest,please build your temple and do all pujas,nobody will question
@sury39
@sury39 13 күн бұрын
we lived in pearmbura suburb oof Chennai almost every month we used to ffer pongal to the amman there and the priest was a non brahmin!
@srivathsannadathur9452
@srivathsannadathur9452 13 күн бұрын
I disagree with this view. Temples have deities and procedures of conducting worship for those deities. Any temple that follows Vedic style of worship must only have Brahmin priests. Other temples that don’t follow Vedic rites can choose their own priests based on their rule book. The fundamental question here is who is a Brahmin. On the one hand Brahmins are vilified but alternatively all tom dick and harry want to be a Brahmin. Let’s agree that path to becoming a Brahmin is a very hard and rigorous and fraught with sacrifices. This should be understood by todays Brahmins by birth and by those aspiring Brahmins
@vishwa408
@vishwa408 14 күн бұрын
In this country priministership is reserved for only one family...
@anuradhaarun3713
@anuradhaarun3713 14 күн бұрын
To be a Brahmana by birth & to be a Vaidika Brahmana, who has studied the Vedas, aagama & tantrika shaasthras & has undergone training to do pooja, homa & other rituals in the prescribed way are 2 different things!! Just like a constable who has joined the police force by writing a qualifying exam & an IPS officer who has studied hard & cracked the UPSC exam! A Vaidika Brahmana has to follow a strict lifestyle all his life. Whoever is willing to follow that can undergo Vaidika & Shaasthra adhyayana & do all that they do. Its a matter of qualification & dedication. The right to do pooja in a temple is not like being a class monitor to compete for.. why not him & why not her! Being a Brahmin or Vaishya or SC by birth is the thing practiced now, thanks to British divide & rule policy! Are all those who are identified as Kshatriyas being soldiers now? Are those identified as Shudras not taking up high positions in all professions now? Brahmins by birth, but not Vaidikas are also working under bosses (Shudra dharma), doing businesses(Vaishya dharma), being soldiers or police officers (Kshatriya dharma)... Varnas are divisions by profession, castes are divisions by varieties of occupation. Is this such a difficult theory for today's educated class to understand??
@harshakp
@harshakp 11 күн бұрын
As a bhramin I totally agree to this ..if people are ready to follow necey training and pass it ..they should be allowed to do.pooja ...it applies to all.... In bhramins also not everyone is allowed to enter sanctrum ..because we haven't learnt and passed necessary practices. ....
@cosmic_963
@cosmic_963 3 күн бұрын
One's profession is not determined by their birth. A warrior is shaped only after enlisting in the army and only after undergoing the necessary educations and trainings. A warriors child may become a doctor (baidya) only after completing the required education and training. However, some childrens may inherit certain advantages-such as mindset, access to information, etc.-these advantages are limited to a small percentage. Today, nearly everyone has access to information and what truly should matter now are one's interests and skills.
@SV-wu2my
@SV-wu2my 14 күн бұрын
Many Indian temples in different places are managed by non brahmins and rituals are conducted by non brahmins. Only Brahmin managed? It depends on practiced process if particular type of temple and they follow that process. Like Sabarimala, there are reatriction. We cannot argue that we want to follow secularism there.
@parvatanaya
@parvatanaya 11 күн бұрын
I tend to agree with the solution that Sadhguru is proposing about institutionalizing and training temple rituals. But note that professional training in this context also entails training on 1) certain life style traits and not just the act of doing the rituals and 2) Vedic Agamas; Sadhguru might have given an exemption from training on Vedic Agamas and recitation for Isha temples but that must not be applied as the standard for the generic Hindu temples which were built (by the kings of course) to have rituals performed in compliance with Vedic Agamas. Nothing wrong in training non-brahmins for temple rituals but I feel that the above criterion about life style, continuous study of Vedic recitation and Agamas must be considered....this would mean that the training may not be an ad hoc training just to perform rituals but should be comprehensive and started at an young age....This probably needs a massive social experiment and I am not averse to doing such experiments to really solve this caste problem in Hindu religious practices. If the social experiment fails then you have to give it to the Bhramins for at least they have a system in place....If the experiment prevails, which I sincerely wish it does, then at least we are on the path of making a new and positive impact to the society...Once systems work the society will follow suit whatever be the resistance
@parvatanaya
@parvatanaya 11 күн бұрын
PS: Just a note that when I refer to Bhramins in my comment above I am specifically referring to the Vedic priests who undergo rigorous training from a very young age at patashAlAs and not any secualr Bhramin who are in NO shape or form associated with Vedic training/education/services
@amarnathnarahari5156
@amarnathnarahari5156 21 сағат бұрын
It’s unfortunate that Sadguru is playing to the gallery choosing a politically correct answer and distorts reality. The same Indian Constitution, that he quotes for liberation of the temples from the greedy clutches of political parties running the Government, specifically guarantees that the temples that are following the Agama Sastras should be run according to their prescribed rules under which only a certain class of Brahmins, not all Brahmins, will perform the rituals. Actually the fact remains that the number of temples having ritualistic rights held by non Brahmins is much more than the Agama Sastra following temples. Will Sadguru allow an outside trained and so called exam passed person to perform the rituals in the temples in Isha centre ? This is one of the rare occasions when Sadguru talks falsehood to sound profound and progressive. After all he too is human and his knowledge too has its limitations & faults.🙏🏻
@vidyamadamanchi7091
@vidyamadamanchi7091 13 күн бұрын
Look at the greatness of Hindu culture. Rama and Krishna themselves were not Brahmins but we pray to them right? That means the Hindu culture never had anything called the caste system. It was the varna system modified. Varna means profession , thats all.
@Snowfluffy123
@Snowfluffy123 9 күн бұрын
Even Brahmins don't get to run temple by birth. They go through a grind of renunciation and discipline and satvik life and learning so that they can maintain the sanctity of the temple and the idol. If someone can go through this, then yes they can become a priest. It comes naturally to Brahmins because of their satvik lineage. For a non brahmin it is going to be extremely difficult if their ancestors didn't do any sadhana. You can still do it but it takes a lot of shedding. Once he/she does that, i think they will automatically become qualified because now they are a true ascetic, brahmin. it is not a caste, it is a way of life. unfortunately people made it a caste. Also not all brahmins practice priesthood. there are various things they do. this is one of them that's it.
@rajeevkunjuraman1827
@rajeevkunjuraman1827 17 күн бұрын
2 points 1. It's not just eic that had plundered temple wealth alone . We had our own kings and people who had plundered temple wealth 2. Is guru indicating govt supporting the brahminical hegemony in temples ???
@prakashkoovekal8234
@prakashkoovekal8234 13 күн бұрын
if our own kings plundering wealth , still that wealth is in india!!!! where as foreigners plundered gone to their country!!! no comparison!!!! you are a indian still wants fight an indian!!! you did not get what guru said !!! if you want to be poor brahmin who lead poor life working at temple so be it !! one can escape from poverty and do some other job , so you can replace him!!
@thankskrishna
@thankskrishna 15 күн бұрын
Hard fact but caste is by birth only. You can learn work of Brahmin but you will never be one. It’s about lineage. It is mandatory for temple. (corruption is a greater sin) You can not be Brahmin or Rajput, you can only work like it.
@iruvailsrinivasajagadisha5669
@iruvailsrinivasajagadisha5669 17 күн бұрын
Fully disagree with this fellow.Temples are not democratic. Its a place of energy and is energised by chanting mantras by the preists who toil day and night by learnibg the vedas,scriptures etc.This gentlemen is serving his self intrest.Yes,anybody can become preist if he has learnt agama shastra.Its tradition of it being done by brahmins since long because they have dedicated their time for that. Who is a real brahmin is a debatable subject.
@ramachandrasharma1956
@ramachandrasharma1956 17 күн бұрын
To disagree with him is your choice.
@PavanShetty-b8r
@PavanShetty-b8r 16 күн бұрын
He is telling the same thing, any one who is interested and dedicated and interested can learn and follow the rituals and can b priest!
@bhaskarn4835
@bhaskarn4835 12 күн бұрын
He is saying the same thing. So what exactly are you disagreeing with?
@vidyakulkarni6899
@vidyakulkarni6899 17 күн бұрын
How well said!👌👏👏👏. 🙏🙏🙏
@sethuramannil280
@sethuramannil280 6 күн бұрын
Any Hindu can be a priest if he has those qualities, learns all the processeses & he meets all the set criteria
@annaviktoria7186
@annaviktoria7186 19 күн бұрын
NAMASKARAM SADHGURU 🙏🙏🙏 💗❤️‍🔥🩷❤️‍🔥💥💥💥
@Simple_Indian
@Simple_Indian 12 күн бұрын
Jaggi Vasudev is BS'ing as usual instead of giving a clear response to a straight-forward question. I'll explain as simply as I can. Historically, as per Hindu traditions, the deity in all Hindu temples is consecrated as prescribed in the Vedas, the most holy scriptures of Hindus. This was always done by Brahmins as they alone underwent the rigorous education of the Vedas and the stringent training to perform the rites and rituals as per procedures prescribed in the Vedas. So, only those who qualify thus were entrusted with the duty and right to perform rites & rituals in Hindu temples for several millennia. However, in modern times, say in the last century or so, the HR&CE Dept. in many States has been appointing non-Brahmins too to perform rituals in Hindu temples, though they don't qualify to do so as per Vedic processes. This has had undesirable consequences, such as embezzlement of temple's funds, or theft of idols from many Hindu temples, valued in millions in the black market overseas. Certain sources (including Mr. Pon Manickavel, retired IGP of Idol Wing, TN Police) have asserted that most such thefts occurred in temples where non-Brahmins were appointed as priests, as they did not have the deep faith or fear of punishment by the divine power vested in the deities. For them it's just a job for which they get a salary from the corrupt HR&CE Dept. Brahmins being traditional priests always saw worshipping the deity (even at home) as their divine duty not as a job. Many weren't / aren't even paid a salary or remuneration for doing this duty, which they haven't complained about. Also, Jaggi Vasudev needlessly compares Hindu temples with his Adiyogi Aalayam which has a large sculpture of Shiva, one of the trinity of primary Hindu deities. It's just a sculpture, not an idol consecrated as in a Hindu temple. So, most people who visit the place come there for the yoga related activities not to prey to Shiva. There are many places elsewhere in India where a large sculpture of Shiva is installed, but is not a Shiva temple per se.
@hatake6601
@hatake6601 8 күн бұрын
Asual Bhramins stopping the way of change so they won't loose position.
@YogendraRNK
@YogendraRNK 14 күн бұрын
A lot of temples in India have non-brahmin priests
@shrestaassociates4063
@shrestaassociates4063 17 күн бұрын
Can non brahm8n do rituals in Adhiyogi temple....it is allowed in constitution..
@austinred458
@austinred458 13 күн бұрын
They're not brahmins.
@publicvoice2360
@publicvoice2360 10 күн бұрын
Ya ya ya…..like Ambani’s can refine oil, make polyester, run e-commerce marketplace, fashion retail, telecom and the list goes on with Adani too……Your work should define your caste or democratic rights. Temple worship is not a profession it is a cultural ritual which Sadguru very cleverly jumbled in words to explain superiority of Brahmins in India😂
@nagarajaniyer6369
@nagarajaniyer6369 12 күн бұрын
In Sri Ram Temple, Ayodhya, one can see Priests belonging to all castes !
@singaretnam9982
@singaretnam9982 11 күн бұрын
I have conducted temple rituals around age 6 to 8.
@himajasettynlr8782
@himajasettynlr8782 12 күн бұрын
What if that non-brahmin person wants to give up on his temple priest post because his job is not giving him enough money to live the life that he wants? Will that be ok? Absolutely not. Because temple priest post is not a job. Its a selfless service to god. Not all brahmins are becoming priest's. Only some brahmins consciously chose to become temple priest right from their young age. Their education, lifestyle, mindset everything gets change. Desires lust anger obsessions selfishness shouldnt accumulate their mind because they are gonna recite veda mantra means their body mind must be very pure and must focus on god only. Not on other worldly activities and thoughts. They are gonna perform yagnam to please the nature to get nature's blessings on all of us....not for making money. One important thing is they shouldn't earn money as generational wealth like we all do. Brahmins - temple priests are one of the reason why sanatana dharma is still existing strongly in india despite all the invasions. Its not only about equality and capability the major part is dedication. A soldier dedicates his life to his motherland. Likewise, temple priests are dedicates their lives to protect our vedic knowledge, culture and civilization.
@user-kricks
@user-kricks 11 күн бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jothimsw
@jothimsw 11 күн бұрын
Doing mantras/poojas is not a rocket science.. with proper studies and training anyone can do it….its time to abolish this sanathana dharma to allow other caste to do mantras and poojas in temples..
@adhikaralasomashekar3503
@adhikaralasomashekar3503 11 күн бұрын
Brahmin is not a CAST but it is a POST. Anyone can become a Brahmin.
@Sarcastically007
@Sarcastically007 16 күн бұрын
Why to bifurcate profession with caste / religion/ community etc Why not public ? When we see at this level, racial discrimination won’t even exist !! Equality upholds , pity in 2024 also we are discussing these things!! Love yourself, respect all, hate none !! Someone’s weaknesses is other’s gains
@srinivasasastry7020
@srinivasasastry7020 13 күн бұрын
One need certain qualifications to become a priest just like you need mbbs to become a qualified doctor or LLB to become a lawyer! It's not an idle man's job! One should acquire basic knowledge of learning Vedas and chanting properly! Anybody can become the priest provided he should be trained properly! Why to blame Brahmins for somebody's inefficiency?? Frankly, Vedas are still alive just because of Brahmins who keep on chanting everyday for the well-being of all..! Finally, Brahmins can't be held responsible for other's lack of interest in learning Vedas!
@shahindranmoonieya4742
@shahindranmoonieya4742 11 күн бұрын
The brahmin s must re-establish traditional gurukuls accessible to all
@kou1973mr
@kou1973mr 11 күн бұрын
Sadhguru is clear about who a priest should be. But the present priest or the Brahmin will never accept the same as they never got trained or no one qualified the present priest . They are just priest just because they were born in a Brahmin family and probably failed in there academia they became priest 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫
@Msv-i1r
@Msv-i1r 11 күн бұрын
in old temples they have followed some cultures. why disturb it. let the govt build huge temples like in ayothya, like esha and appoint all people whoever they want . what stops them.
@jothimsw
@jothimsw 11 күн бұрын
We have broken several old things we followed from sati to denying women work force. Everything has changed. Time to move on rather than keeping old mindset…
@Msv-i1r
@Msv-i1r 11 күн бұрын
@jothimsw we believe brahmin will be a non vegetarian , dont drink liquor a sadhu by nature . have a sathvik guna in general. that is a quality not forced on him . is it possible genelaise these qualities to all. then we will liberalize nothing wrong taking non veg foods amd doing pojas. nothing wrong having women poojaris and will add so many nothing wrongs. my wish is like esha those who fight for these libaralisms must build temples on their own and prove things work well in their system before doing changes in traditional temples.
@jothimsw
@jothimsw 11 күн бұрын
Why Esha should build temples??? All the existing temples are not built by Brahmins . If Brahmins wanted to do poojas then let them build their own temples. Brahmins have brain functions and have emotions like any other humans in the world, they are nothing special. There are non Brahmins are pure veg and there are Brahmins who eat meat , drink liquor and do antisocial activities…
@vvishnucharan1
@vvishnucharan1 13 күн бұрын
They are hindu temples with sanathan traditions...not just temples..
@Jikkumaster
@Jikkumaster 17 күн бұрын
Varna should be based on skills not birth. According to Hindu scriptures Varna can change.
@h2hsuresh
@h2hsuresh 16 күн бұрын
Will any of the Mutt folowing Advaita Vedanta Sampradaya endorse this opinion ? !!
@milaalinea7157
@milaalinea7157 16 күн бұрын
Thank you very much Sadhguro. I really appreciates your wisdom shared for all of us to learn in a very practical way of life.
@wadiyarabhijeet
@wadiyarabhijeet 18 күн бұрын
Shambho ❤️
@vishwa408
@vishwa408 14 күн бұрын
Why target only Brahmins,so many rich temple s non bramhin priests offer poja,they will not allow others to do pooja.inkarnataka a Muslim was appointed to head hindu temple board,he later tried for congress ticket for lok sabha seat.
@AP-eb8hd
@AP-eb8hd 12 күн бұрын
For someone who murdered his wife..plz dont ask such questions ..
@sudhavenugopal8853
@sudhavenugopal8853 14 күн бұрын
Viswakarmas are divine people 5 childrens of the Supreme lord Virat Viswakarma. Out of which Manu( kollar-blacksmiths) are the elder one and each Viswa Brahmins(viswakarma) respect their elder brother kollar(blacksmiths) as he makes tools for each of others job.There is no supremacy in goldsmiths( viswanja) that they are superior to blacksmiths.As goldsmith deals with precious metal, this concept is made by non Viswakarma people. Satguru never have any respect to Viswakarmas which was prominent from his many speeches is very sad.
@jayaraman7605
@jayaraman7605 6 күн бұрын
U are destroying sanatana dharma ! This is not a curriculum to practice it is pure sacrifice purity and dedication will you say a non vegetarian man will give up eating meat to study Vedas u talk bullshit Jaggi Vasudev
@surimenon7660
@surimenon7660 17 күн бұрын
Brilliant SADGURU JI 🙏❤️🙏 We are Human, ONLY A ATMA 🙏
@contactsriram
@contactsriram 13 күн бұрын
Very well said, Sadhguru..
@dtvind
@dtvind 12 күн бұрын
No money to temple, brahmins would go away. Do pooja at home. Do not put money in hundi or brahmins begger plate.
@murthymlnarasimha6526
@murthymlnarasimha6526 15 күн бұрын
If this man is so democratic then why is he restricting only women to perform in his temple, is it not discrimination. Brahmins who have to perform the duties of pujaries must practice strict rules practices and should not eat non veg, take alcohol etc, will others maintain such strict and difficult life. Any waybecause of the disrespect shown to such traditions as stipulaed in sanathana vedic dharma and teachings , brahmins have long back lost interest and performing the vedic rituals privately and some wise peaple who understand the importance of chastetity and brahminical standards are still respecting them, it is not a election platform where the majority opinion and political correctness will prevail. Secondly why this mas is promoting temples and god, godesses in his ashram when he says there is no god, no religion,no heaven, hell etc. He is the real hypocrite playing to the gallery and he is a half baked spiritual teacher.
@rajeshv4329handle
@rajeshv4329handle 15 күн бұрын
He has a good gift of flawless and absorbing speech. A man who can communicate well will March leagues ahead.
@austinred458
@austinred458 13 күн бұрын
It's not discrimination, because the temple is built like that. Bhairavi needs women around her. It's her nature. Heaven, hell and THE GOD are western concepts, alien to this culture. He has cited the same in many places. Context is important.
@sundarkrishnaakavapatti685
@sundarkrishnaakavapatti685 15 күн бұрын
Yes of course. just like any other professionalshould qualify .
@sofluzik
@sofluzik 12 күн бұрын
Which Dravidian movement is he blabbering about now
@robinson8251
@robinson8251 17 күн бұрын
Sadhguru cunningly sidelined the main concern and talked around. Issue is can a dalit become a priest or not .
@KoushikVaraghur
@KoushikVaraghur 17 күн бұрын
He clearly answers it saying anyone who is trained can do it. Either you didn't have the patience to see the whole video or you are just blinded by your hatred.
@KoushikVaraghur
@KoushikVaraghur 17 күн бұрын
And anyways, please dont stick your nose into temples. Churches are rotting. Go and look at it.
@manojpg4668
@manojpg4668 16 күн бұрын
He already answered it.Caste is not by birth. it's by profession .So dalit can be trained to be a brahmin
@Wilnina
@Wilnina 16 күн бұрын
He didn’t say like it. Is Dalit ready to be Brahmin and work and act like then yes ? Dalits need to let go the reservation for themselves and their families 😅 ? There are proud Dalits in this country and they will not like to be Poor Brahmin
@santoshbannur
@santoshbannur 15 күн бұрын
Yes, once he learns aghama shastra and is well versed with Vedas for ancient temples.... For new ones constructed, they can be doing pooja and create a tradition of their own... There is no dalit in varnashrama. Its all bhakti that you need to pray, not do politics. If you are in just to control physical wealth of the temple, then we understand your thinking, if its beyond then absolutely yes.
@balajib785
@balajib785 15 күн бұрын
Speak truth atleast you have chance ❤
@spg6651
@spg6651 17 күн бұрын
On the contrary , there is fight going on now , that some of the temples which were traditionally worshiped by PACHAMAs are now taken over by others non brahmins ( OBCs) , Which is being vehemently questioned . Brahmins are easy punching bags for all -- But Brahmins have got GOD's blessings and hence they shine in all jobs -- Be in Archakas , doctors , engineers , teachers, Figher pilots , etc..
@ashwinkumarindra6463
@ashwinkumarindra6463 17 күн бұрын
Why is is Brahmins can do other non-priest jobs and remain Brahmins, yet non-Brahmins cannot take up the job of a priest? If you are not a priest you should not call yourself a Brahmin.
@cholan0501
@cholan0501 16 күн бұрын
Keep on dreaming and keep patting yourselves on your backs. Majority of people who shine in these jobs you mentioned are Non Brahmins, how did such a large group conveniently escaped your perception ??!!. This "holier than thou" attitude is why others have stopped caring and supporting Brahmins. Where was the GOD's blessing when so many injustices happened to Brahmins ? May be god abandoned you collectively due to your arrogance.
@hatake6601
@hatake6601 8 күн бұрын
Proceeds to marry muslims😂😂
@sumanthh3120
@sumanthh3120 16 күн бұрын
You do not know the difference between church, masjid and a temple
@jothimsw
@jothimsw 11 күн бұрын
All are the same, built with sand, stone, clay wood, metal?? So what’s the difference???
@karthi7016
@karthi7016 16 күн бұрын
So God won't accept one's prayer or rituals.. A load of BS
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 17 күн бұрын
40,000 temples are there in Tamilnadu How many temples have brahmin priest ?
@ragulkuppa1018
@ragulkuppa1018 17 күн бұрын
Roughly About 20,000 temples have brahmin priests. Recently Supreme court has reinforced to follow agama law in these temples, so certain family in brahmin caste will continue enter into sanctom. Most of the brahmin poojari kids are moved on to different jobs. Many temples do not have enough poojaris .... Yes it's a complex issue. Social reform needs to happen on this issue.
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 17 күн бұрын
@ragulkuppa1018 M K Stalin has mocked hindu marriage rituals video is there
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 17 күн бұрын
@ragulkuppa1018 If you give 10,000 monthly salary they will come back to this job
@eshwarswaminathan3031
@eshwarswaminathan3031 17 күн бұрын
@ragulkuppa1018 Do you think other temples everyone can perform puja ? Brahmin Kula deivam temples have priest from other caste
@ragulkuppa1018
@ragulkuppa1018 17 күн бұрын
@@eshwarswaminathan3031Reason for Brahmin kids moving on to different jobs is just not only about money. Many aspiring for different lifestyle that's the reality. I'm no supporter of DMK. It's quite unfortunate Dravidian movements is taking all the credit for all social reforms happened in the past. Aadi Shankaracharya made significant reforms for the sanathan way of living, in a way he revived Hinduism during darkest time. Present Hinduism was shaped by him. Reforms are inevitable for the times we live. Studying for priesthood should be open to everyone that includes all agamic and rest of the temples as well. Who ever studied priesthood for that particular temple should enter inside sanctom without any discrimination on caste
@believerone2001
@believerone2001 11 күн бұрын
Ordinary people are not interested.Sadguruji has some ideas to declare. Suddenly, this brain-bashing sprung up. If he is compassionate, he may tell another story.
@livelife261
@livelife261 13 күн бұрын
🎉🎉🎉❤😊
@RAVIN1111
@RAVIN1111 11 күн бұрын
Sanskrit dead language 😢
@joejo7698
@joejo7698 17 күн бұрын
🙏
@rnskfamily7672
@rnskfamily7672 15 күн бұрын
Bairavi Rs 500 entry, Kal bairav Rs 1000 entry... story over... shiva temple free entry, exit Rs 1500.
@anuradhaarun3713
@anuradhaarun3713 14 күн бұрын
Maintanance? Free food to all? Employees' salary? Electricity? Water? So on.. Doesnt all that require money? Will all these service providers give these services free of cost to a temple? When people runing temples or religious places are giving back the money collected to the society, generating employment & not filling their treasures, have some respect!
@austinred458
@austinred458 13 күн бұрын
Unfortunately you're talking out of your bottom. None of the isha infrastructure has entry (or exit) fees. They're open to all, free of cost.
@rnskfamily7672
@rnskfamily7672 13 күн бұрын
@anuradhaarun3713 let's try to visit famous temples without paying the goons or stand in line with the mob. In these 1000s of years of existence and even after indias independence government has not figured how to run and or maintain temples.
@rnskfamily7672
@rnskfamily7672 13 күн бұрын
What we have is gurus building their own temples but not willing or no plan to maintain or revamp how existing temples are run. In my recent visit to a temple in tanjore the brahmin is begging outside and i decided pay him because he told me he was doing services inside and was replaced by dmk government with others with no training to do services inside to whom I ended up paying as well. Situation is terrible for temples in tamil Nadu. And the people inside said all the brahmins have left to USA and other countries.
@anuradhaarun3713
@anuradhaarun3713 13 күн бұрын
@@rnskfamily7672 Agree with you on the sad state of affairs in TN. Definitely we cannot expect such governments to run or maintain temples. Why is such an anti Hindu party coming to power again & again in TN? Why do patriots like Annamalai face such henious defeat there? Anyway, since the govt claims control over temples, what can gurus like him do, other than run a campaign to free temples from govt clutches? Atleast his intention is in the welfare of all Hindus, why oppose him?
@shantaramkrishnan8839
@shantaramkrishnan8839 6 күн бұрын
Utube ..I'm not I nterested in this man.. kindly stop sending any of his talks to me.🙏
@sumanthh3120
@sumanthh3120 16 күн бұрын
There are already shastras on what,how,why etc.. the whatis the new process you come up with giving training? You only say that your idol worship cannot be done by male...then similarly some rishis would have had some plans at that time which we don't understand at this time. You yourself are deviding based on quality/competency...etc .. then...
@world-philosophy
@world-philosophy 17 күн бұрын
He always bluff.
@allareonlynewfortoday3006
@allareonlynewfortoday3006 14 күн бұрын
🩷🩷🩷🩷
@easwaran1954
@easwaran1954 14 күн бұрын
Nonsense
@anandgopal8427
@anandgopal8427 14 күн бұрын
Jaggi can built a new temples and appoint who ever he wants. He illegally occupied elephant corridor and constructed isha yoga. He is Just a corporate advisor using spiritual tag.
@austinred458
@austinred458 13 күн бұрын
You must know the elephants there.
@mayajha1
@mayajha1 13 күн бұрын
Shame on u anandgopal… not a bit of land is encroached its ruled out already in the court
@ranjeesh123
@ranjeesh123 12 күн бұрын
Keep training as madatory , boards to decide on the same ..
@avishekmukhopadhyay6086
@avishekmukhopadhyay6086 16 күн бұрын
Question itself is so offensive !! It should be run only by brahmins and no one else....dont know how sadguru gave a sweet and politically correct reply !!
@RameshUllalu
@RameshUllalu 16 күн бұрын
Hindu UNITY , EQUALITY and SOLIDARITY is the Need of the Hour........
@savantdude
@savantdude 14 күн бұрын
who is he to say that persons who’re not Brahmins can touch the deity? Sadguru is nobody to decide this.. this call will be taken by the acharyas & mathadhipathis!
@austinred458
@austinred458 13 күн бұрын
Mr. Dude, a good number of temples in this country were built by non brahmins. How in the world could they have consecrated the deity without touching the form?
@dineshpoojary5961
@dineshpoojary5961 12 күн бұрын
Your Head
@hatake6601
@hatake6601 8 күн бұрын
Those Acharyas and madathipathis came from same community and by birth😂😂😂
@savantdude
@savantdude 8 күн бұрын
@@hatake6601 One is a brahmana by birth.. you have any questions?
@hatake6601
@hatake6601 8 күн бұрын
@savantdude Then non bhramins should convert to Christianity or Islam
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