Splatoon 3 Already Has a HUGE Problem

[@Squidveemo]

ngl, 805 hrs into splatoon 2 and the input delay has never been noticeable to me.

[@BombFromII]

exactly

[@MoobOgler]

Tbh as a dualie main 1600 hrs in and I have but I played the demo and it feels a lot more responsive

[@weishennie]

What controller do you use? Do you play wired?

[@LatiloveOmg]

I have over 1000 hours in splatoon 2, I've literally never noticed either

[@cloudycraftt123]

I’ve played 2,950 hours and I quickly notice it was the same 😂 even playin on new accs I notice

[@matthieu9246]

I have 1,400 hours and play competitively and I have never heard about input delay. For example, I think RNG is a way bigger issue than input delay. Edit: Since Splatoon 3, I have now seen a lot of input delay, and yes it is a big problem. Not in Splatoon 2 tho, it is way worse in Splatoon 3.

[@jlb4685]

yeah when you frag 15-0 and your random team mates can't even tie their own shoes laces some input lag ain't gonna clutch the win, lol.

[@realshipn5546]

Same here with 2200 hours, this has never been a problem to me

[@half-qilin]

At ~700 hours, and a recent charger main, I can say the input delay is minor but noticeable, however, problems with the controller itself are much more noticeable (like how about a fifth of the time my shots don’t come out because I let go of the ZR button for so little time the game engine doesn’t register it)

[@triggerhappy4199]

Fr

[@stevee337]

I played 1150 hour but i also havent felt anything, except some ping issues

[@jaycred8726]

Gotta be frank, never really had a problem with input delay. I mean, isn't it just a Switch problem in general when you're playing wireless without the controller close to the system? But I'm no pro, so I get it if it's more noticeable to people with sharper reflexes.

[@lucrativelucas2655]

In this case, yes its just a Switch problem because the 100 ms is from the Switch mostly (maybe 1 added frame from the game) but there are games on the console that have god awful input delay like Smash Ultimate

[@SpaceGamer07]

People who whine about input delay are so annoying to be honest

[@السراقالمجهول]

@@SpaceGamer07 they have valid reasons

[@SilentSpecte3r]

@@SpaceGamer07 yeah because getting upset that u press a button and the action didn't happen after a second later is not annoying at all.

[@pb.....]

@@lucrativelucas2655 100 ms input delay is 6 frames on 60 fps and 3 frames on 30 fps

[@LuddyFish_]

I'd like to clarify the misinformation about the meta when nobody was using shooters. The reason nobody used shooters wasn't because of input delay, but because other weapons were broken. Take Splatoon 2's start. If anyone remembers the days of 1.0, tri-slosher was absolutely busted with it's range and armour being super strong to where the meta was triple tri-slosher.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

It was also due to a lot of the weapons that dealt with Tri weren't in the game yet. Eventually Tri got hard nerfed, but eventually buffed to arguably a stronger state than it was at on launch (though the different meta simply made it a lot less optimal than it used to be)

[@ehfoss]

The delay seems to be prominent with wireless controllers. When I play with my switch all put together the delay feels much less (iow I can play). But splatoon's not the worst by far. MegaMan Collection is imo unplayable with a wireless controller or joycons.

[@CubesAndPortals]

The joycons are still running wireless even while attached to the console. The only non-wireless connection available is a pro controller with "wired connection" enabled in the Switch settings.

[@supernovero]

@@CubesAndPortals how is it still wireless? I'm confused

[@ehfoss]

@@CubesAndPortals I guess that must be true. Hm. Maybe my sofa is too far from my switch and I'm getting a lossy connection or something. Japanese didn't account for massive houses haha

[@السراقالمجهول]

@@CubesAndPortals then explain how can I still play with them attached to the console while in airplane mode

[@SilentSpecte3r]

Really? I play that game and been able to play it perfectly so fine, guess I'm just built different.

[@sonicrunn3r895]

Playing the premiere, even if that delay exists, the game feels significantly smoother than 2, and I can honestly aim a lot better with the precise weapons here somehow. This feels like kinda an overblown issue.

[@shyhiemjames1742]

RIGHT THIS GAME IS DEFINITELY SHARPER !!!

[@hirahiro2331]

Same! I use dailies and YO! They feel good!

[@YoruchiMMD]

I thought it got a little better but I guess I was wrong :,) to me it’s been a lot better especially with aiming

[@hirahiro2331]

@@YoruchiMMD yup!

[@camochii]

Am I the only one who is better at siniping in splatoon 2 than 3

[@CrustyNug01]

thats more like a minor problem, i mean if you're constantly loosing matches it really is not because of input lag.

[@internetguy7319]

everyone has to play with the same thing

[@patrykzukowski7471]

That's literally false. If you notice something and you're aware of it, and try to control it - but can't - you're fighting with the game. If you don't notice something and are blissfully ignorant and think that everything works fine - you have a much easier time. Once you start noticing stuff like this, everything goes downhill and you can't play to your potential, or even play at all. I know this is true, because this happened in Apex Legends to me. My PC isn't the best and I was getting my ass handed to me. Literally couldn't win most shootouts. Once I realised why I can't aim for shit - it was because of slight input lag - I did my best to reduce it to minimum. Once I did that - I was winning most fights, cause I finally could aim and the game finally felt responsive. Input lag is a HUGE issue for people who notice it.

[@KellerCo]

@@patrykzukowski7471 your story doesn’t even match your bottom line. You didn’t even notice you had input delay for the longest time which is the opposite of the point your trying to make and it’s completely different than in splatoon where everyone has the same delay. In apex, the people you are playing have 0 input delay, so obviously they would react better than you. They may also have a higher hrtz monitor which could help them too.

[@patrykzukowski7471]

@@KellerCo You're right, I think I just made two different points: how not noticing delay affects the player and how noticing it affects the player. Ok then, so everyone has the delay. Fine. My point is that when you don't notice it and it doesn't bother you at all it might as well not exist at all. For all you and your brain knows everythings fine and dandy. You're completely in sync with the game. But for someone who notices the delay their brain can't react to what's happening. Everything is out of sync and is hard to control, predict, etc. and the performance goes downhill, waaay down (for me, at least). So, just because you don't notice it, doesn't mean it can't be problematic.

[@Crxwess]

@@KellerCo input delay is real, unless you have a low sensitivity of course you wouldnt notice

[@croddy1670]

I never even noticed the delay. And even after knowing this info, I still don’t notice it. Maybe it’s just that I’m not too competitive with the game or am not a speed runner but I don’t think this is a real problem

[@Avaitor_YT]

Your right

[@wompwompwompwompwompwompalienz]

it doesn’t affect me at all

[@Deeznuts4]

I feel that it affects a bit when ur swimming and taking turns,

[@nayuki-rn]

@@Deeznuts4 Nah, that's just the acceleration/deceleration of the swimming mechanic. It is annoying though

[@432AlexH]

@@nayuki-rn Sub strafing (or squid strafing) and squid rolling can help with turning while swimming, thought it won't be very sneaky.

[@Gatchu137]

100 milliseconds of delay for a 60fps game is 6 frames. The switch itself has a native input delay of 5-6 frames that applies to all games. So that would mean Splatoon 3 has between 0-1 frames of added input delay, which is about as good as they can do. You'd be asking them to remedy problems with the hardware, which isn't reasonable. Also, tri-slosher certainly wasn't meta because it was hard to aim with shooters. That's an insane claim. It was meta because it had good kill speed, good painting, great base stats, and probably the best kit in the game, of burst bomb/ink armor. The fact that it was also lenient with aiming just made it accessible. Good players have never had trouble aiming shooters, because it's really not hard. Chargers specifically had some problems with hitting, but that's mostly because of the online lag, not any input delay. However, we're pretty sure Splatoon 3 is using new servers instead of the old Wii U/3DS ones, so that might be better.

[@arcK9]

couldn’t have put it better, I was looking for someone to point out that it was a hardware issue and not a game issue, smash ult also has 6 frames of lag as well another huge competitive game on the switch this is as good as we are gonna get unfortunately

[@patrykzukowski7471]

Alright, but for motion controls the delay is much bigger. I definitely don't notice the delay on button inputs, maybe very, very, veeeery slightly, but for motion controls? It's literally impossible to aim properly, the delay is so big.

[@robotoboy30]

The reason these people try to say things like Tri-Slosher being used was because of input delay are just excusing their abuse of a broken weapon lol! That weapon was straight BUSTED when it was first available lol! They of course fixed it over time.

[@Gatchu137]

@@patrykzukowski7471 That's just not true. Gyro controls are almost universally considered the best way to play, specifically because of how responsive they are. Either try raising the sensitivity, making sure there's nothing in front of your switch that's blocking the sensor, or getting a new controller. Gyro controls certainly aren't all created equal, depending on the controller you have.

[@patrykzukowski7471]

@@Gatchu137 What are you talking about. Gyro controls have a huge delay, and that's really easy to prove.

[@LumeanTV]

For a problem supposedly so prominent, there seems to be quite a lot of people who don't see the difference.

[@NathanielBandy]

Input delay? I've never noticed it and played for like 2 years straight when splat 2 came out

[@hirahiro2331]

Same. I don't think they really have it, it's more of what you use for input 🤔

[@TonesBalones]

According to this test it seems to be about 90ms or 5.4 frames, same as Splatoon 2. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fJWwe3ybmNqWqK8 From what I've gathered, this is inconsistent across other games on the Switch, some are fine and some are not. Splatoon 2 is also about 50ms slower than Splatoon on the Wii U. To be fair, 5-6 frames of input delay isn't very noticeable compared to most console games, and Splatoon does a great job with gyro controls to make it feel smoother.

[@hirahiro2331]

I saw the video and it's still not insane. That lag, I've never gotten. The game starts with motion and didn't happen.

[@BombFromII]

i have played splatoon 2 ever since the came came out, i got into competitive a year ago and im an e-liter main but still i never noticed any input delay, if you not winning its not because of input delay its because u suck lol

[@via_embre]

ive ~300 hrs, in splatoon 2, and yeah before i used to never notice input delay but after having played fps games on a pc i recently got, the responsiveness shocked me when i booted up my switch to try the splatoon 3 demo, yep there definitely is input delay its not noticable if you're not used to small input delay, and i dont think itll affect casual gameplay much however, i can see it being an issue in X rank sweatlord games

[@pokespartytv8086]

Ah, such an amazing thing the mind of a child

[@goldenninja9053]

@@pokespartytv8086 He seems to have a good point though. Why do these guys complain about some tiny bit of input lag? Sounds like they might have a skill issue, 'cause I can be pretty decent at Splatoon 2, and I have never failed because of "input lag."

[@MyKeal]

@@goldenninja9053 it’s not always about “failing”, sometimes people just want a responsive game. I’m not even part of the camp that gives two fucks about the input delay, but I do understand why it bothers people; and no, it’s not always about not getting their wins

[@someoneontheinternet4518]

@@goldenninja9053 its not necessarily a failing on the part of the person, more like it limits their potential

[@ehfoss]

With regard to server play, Splatoon 3 will be using NLPN, Nintendo's new server system. This replaces NEX which was used since the 3ds/wii. Nintendo life is collecting links to a few nice sources on this. share and enjoy!

[@magefox_]

Has npln been used in other games?

[@ehfoss]

@@magefox_ monster hunter rise and pokemon arceus

[@arkyflame1599]

@@magefox_ yh, specifically monster hunter Rise, which has really fluid online multiplayer and (for me) has never had major lag or disconnected and I use an original release switch, which has the worse hardware out of all the switches. So take it as a good sign.

[@Jonas-tc8qt]

But it's still peer to peer, which is bs

[@robotoboy30]

@@arkyflame1599 It has OKAY multiplayer lol! It's also a much slower game than Splatoon. That said it is infinitely better than what we had before.

[@Zenala]

As a competitive player with 3K hours of gameplay, I've never even heard someone complaining about it. I'm just curious, I do feel like it would be a good thing to correct, it just never felt like a problem for me and many, many, many others. The aim is definitely better and smoother in Splatoon 3, it feels much better imo

[@empress_eve]

I have never noticed this delay, as a Dualie Main, for 2 years. I honestly never noticed a delay in my input; both handheld and TV mode. How is this such a big issue?

[@raphael9028]

🤝

[@eggedsalad]

people with good gaming pcs that give them little to no input delay will be very bothered by it and could end up not being able to play the game because of it, but for people who are used to slower input delay, the problem is basically non-existent. hell, games being incredibly smooth and reactive creep me out, it feels really off coming from slower processors

[@space_bacon1953]

@@SmallHappyOtter I have a 144hz monitor and I believe that there’s a TON of motion control lag compared to my computer, but it’s more of a motion issue and not an input lag issue from the switch. There’s just too much “smoothening” and it makes it feel too slow. Everything else is fine though, like sticks work really well.

[@VisorByte]

@@SmallHappyOtter Videos like this are actually incredibly damaging and hurtful. Not only is it stupid to complain about and such a little issue which honestly isn't even an issue at all, many people will watch these videos and automatically assume the fact that the "delay" is an actual issue and start complaining too. Every video game has input delay in some shape or form. Besides, there is no input delay if everyone has input delay.

[@killatony4093]

@@VisorByte where u not listening? It's about coordination especially with motion controls and it makes other guns more viable for that reason. People usually play with low input delay and this switch of having high input delay makes it all the more noticeable and gives more understanding of how much it can affect your gameplay when playing on the two inputs of low and high. The fact that what makes a gun good, is the consideration of how much input delay there is, that thought shouldn't exist in a competitive aspect, it is an issue. Same goes for smash

[@demo3702]

iv been playing splatoon 2 since launch and i have never noticed this issue, if i can go years without even knowing about it how is it a "huge problem".

[@ManaAsuhaS3]

was wondering the same, everyone has lag in splatoon, internet lag, hardware lag (i believe the switch has a native lag of 5-6 frames but i could be wrong). no one has an advantage or disadvantage over someone else because of lag. imput lag is not the huge problem here, its something else.

[@السراقالمجهول]

did you watch the video? he said compared to other shooters

[@demo3702]

@@السراقالمجهول ok and what’s your point, comparing it to other shooters doesn’t mean anything

[@السراقالمجهول]

@@demo3702 why doenst it mean anything?

[@rossjones8656]

@@السراقالمجهول those games play on massively better hardware and I can't think of many shooters on the switch that are similar to splatoon. While I will agree some comparisons can be made it still isn't much. If it was more how it 1 got it better then it's sequel then it would be more important in many eyes but not really here. He did which is far more important to point out the to other games.

[@gxalcremieshiny4229]

"Input delay is a HUGE problem" 99% of the comment section that didn't even know there was delay

[@judo7001]

"An issue that affects every player at every skill level" Meanwhile the comments section is mostly full of viewers at all skill levels saying it's practically unnoticeable

[@hirahiro2331]

LOL yep! This dude is trying to make a bug deal out of...well, nothing.

[@teroblepuns]

The biggest issue is the peer to peer matchmaking which either kicks everyone when someone has bad internet or just lets snipers comfortably pick you out of the air even though you dodged their laser pointer because that's how p2p delay works

[@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450]

So you can react to a time difference of a 10th of a second, but you can't adjust to it? I mean, I don't know of this, I don't have the reaction time of a runner, but if the character reacts slightly after you press the button, can't you just let go of the button slightly before the character reaches position?

[@Polmo1997]

I feel that it's all an overexageration

[@Polmo1997]

@guy who says stuff The input lag is pretty much on par with every other Switch game

[@jcgamer1650]

Not really. If you wanna play professionally it can be an issue

[@blankstatement1]

@@Polmo1997 that’s not the point. This is a competitive third person shooter. It should not have any input delay. you can’t compare it to your favorite Mario game.

[@Gatchu137]

@@blankstatement1 Games ALWAYS have input delay, even every other competitive shooter. And like he said, it's on-par with most other switch games, likely because the Switch has a higher amount of input delay than most other systems by default.

[@Polmo1997]

@@blankstatement1 It does have the same input delay of Smash Ultimate and I don't see that many complaints from the competitive scene

[@Genichi__]

I mean, it sucks. But it's really not that bad. I play the game competitively and it's not as bad as you make it seem like. Also the Tri-slosher meta wasn't because it was hard to aim but because it was OP at launch.

[@Naito9874]

I love how somehow someone thought tri-slosher was meta because other things were hard to aim lmao

[@Genichi__]

@@Naito9874 Yeah I have no idea how do someone manages to reach this kind of conclusion lmao

[@rikstarpenguin1167]

Exactly the games still fun

[@robotoboy30]

@@Genichi__ It's not a conclusion as much as an excuse. A lot of "pro-players" egos are entirely wrapped up in these games. I've seen it in other communities too. Excuse the use of broken weapons by trying to say the game is mechanically flawed from the base. When it's really just them using a busted weapon because its busted and easy to use, and erases a lot of skill needed to play.

[@Choccykituwu]

I dunno, it certainly feels better to me. I was in the firing range last night testing out weapons on the demo and unlike in Splatoon 2, I was more consistently hitting the moving dummies when using a charger. It might not be more responsive in input delay, but the motion control itself feels much more responsive. Splatoon 2 even on sensitivity +5 feels super slow. On sensitivity +1.5 in the Splat3 demo, it felt faster and significantly more fluid than Splatoon 2 +5 sensitivity. It honestly reminded me of Splatoon 1's motion controls with how responsive they were. I read something about this kind of thing a while back being hardware related, and perhaps that is the case. Maybe it isn't and this is simply a placebo effect OR this is a Splatoon Engine problem that can potentially be fixed with enough effort. Either way, there's something going on that we just have to deal with unfortunately. Maybe, just maybe, there's a small chance it will get fixed in future updates though I don't count on it sadly. At least it feels better at the absolute minimum and I can use Splat Chargers again.

[@pretender1456]

I'm not gonna lie I have never noticed any input delays from Splatoon2 or the Splatoon 3 splatfest premiere, it's almost unnoticeable for a lot people.

[@leogio8093]

I’ve never noticed an input delay in this game. Only when my joycons were drifting did I notice anything major- but that’s broken controller.

[@fish9347]

input delay exists regardless of what you do. I have never ever even realized this was an issue it was so not noticeable. Not to mention you are literally the only one I've seen pointing this out. The input delay is impossible to remedy anyway so it really is a cope situation.

[@cmeterydrive_]

I’ve played nearly 600 hours of Splatoon 2 with a Pro Controller and I have never EVER noticed an input delay nor have I ever heard anyone else complain about it. If anything, I have had a problem with input lag when using Joycons before, but after replacing both Joycons, it turns out it was their fault and not the game’s.

[@beuks4478]

I play wireless x rank squiffer and it has never been noticeable to me and about the "at one point in the meta no one played shooters because it was to hard to aim" pls now explain to me why most top level comps are quad shooter now a days. Its not that bad, its a minor problem at most.

[@someoneontheinternet4518]

you really don't know what you're missing out on here.

[@beuks4478]

@@someoneontheinternet4518 I've been going back to splat 1 as well and both have felt fine.

[@zandikaa]

The reason why the meta wasn't so heavy on shooters back in the day had nothing to do with the input lag, it was a lot about paintability, rng, how well the specials and subs worked with a weapon, before needed buffs etc (like jet buff) This dude is talking out his ass, but what can you expect when a speedrunner who's specialty is singleplayer starts talking about competitive multiplayer?

[@beuks4478]

@@zandikaa Fair.

[@robotoboy30]

@@zandikaa Both of those categories are stupid. Having experience in something doesn't negate opinions. You're right about people using those weapons for those reasons, but he's also right. This is why "competitive" Nintendo gamers irritate the heck out of me. They all throw ALL nuance out the window and try to bludgeon eachother into submission in arguments by waving their "accomplishments" and "experience" in eachothers faces. It's stupid, toxic, and unproductive. It also shows how little you all truly think of yourselves that you rely on your little pedigree to validate your opinion and try to invalidate others.

[@squiffurthewolf6276]

1:48 ive been in this community from the start, ive seen it all but i have never heard anyone, especially a was once compedative player ever say they hate the delay so much they quit the game, im calling bs, but idk i dont go looking for people who say that 2:56 because they have more range and better killing time, also theres a shooter meta at the moment so idk where ur getting this, inkjet is bad thing from, ink brush, tri slosher, rapid blaster r not meta for the most part and yeah ik u said they once were meta but thats because rapid blaster and tri slosher was just broken with, one, tris range and how good armor was, and rapids indirect blast radiuses, and ink brush was never meta 3:36 yep nearly imposible to do consistently, tell that to the many charger mains, including myself who can do it easily, everything it was maybe a problem with their aim? just missing their shot? no its the input delay cherry picking information to support ur bias argument 4:16 actually there was a change that people have pointed out, no placebo effect here, people have shows that the camera auto corrects less in splatoon 3, if u walked wideways in splatoon 2, ur camera will spin in a circle but in 3 u will actually walk straight sideways

[@JohnDoe-bl8xd]

Splatoon has some of the best controls. If input delay was so bad in Splatoon 2, it wouldn’t have sold nearly as well as it did. Even casual players would feel it if it was that bad. I’m glad this series introduced gyro to larger audiences. Having inaccurate controls in a game that relies heavily on accuracy wouldn’t be good business. Splatoon 2 is the bestselling console shooter (by far) in Japan for a reason. They love good smooth controls with great accuracy. So idk. Anyway Splatoon 3 looks phenomenal.

[@m.z6610]

Fortnite updates looks more like a sequel than splatoon 3

[@mrmwm5446]

@@m.z6610 🧢

[@littlefox_100]

@@m.z6610 😑 Bro

[@inky1_]

@@m.z6610 NOT YOU COMPARING FORTNITE TO SPLATOON LMAO 💀

[@السراقالمجهول]

so with your logic sold a lot = perfect game

[@_unreel]

Something I've noticed is that vertical sync in a lot of games produces an effect similar to mouse smoothing. Most console games have vertical sync enabled by default, and thus have large amounts of input lag. Without vertical sync, you end up with better input latency at the cost of extremely jarring screen tearing.

[@robotoboy30]

Yeah it's because console games are built with TV's in mind and not gaming monitors.

[@ultra_lbp]

3:54 weird, I always thought it was something to do with the switch's hardware not splatoon 3 itself

[@primemetroid4427]

No it’s a software problem. I’ve seen test where input lag was shown to be best on Xbox with the switch close by. PS4 had the worst lag by far. No clue about the new gen tho.

[@TroboTicTac]

It is, this dudes just wrong lol

[@primemetroid4427]

No you’re wrong. It’s software. Why don’t you look at actually tests dude. Watch gigaboots button2pixel test for mega man. Snes and pc are best follow by Xbox, switch then ps4. All consoles have more lag than pc generally but part of it is software … splatoon could be better optimized if they wanted. The different mega man games had different lag.

[@zandikaa]

@@primemetroid4427 Two words: motion controls. The fuckin snes emulator doesn't use motion controls good lord

[@kipuki]

I actually think its a hardware-level problem. I remember Nintendo mentioning that Kirby and the forgotten land can run at 60fps but they toned it down to 30fps because there was a lot of input delay at 60fps. Splatoon2-3 run at 1080p60fps so I can only assume this is the cause.

[@Splashy_the_III]

never even felt like there was input delay (seems like a overexaggerating)

[@IF_Y0UR3_BLE3D1NG_UND0]

yeah

[@TheRealTact]

Seems like a grammatical error

[@killatony4093]

Have u ever felt low input delay?

[@robotoboy30]

It definitely exists, and it's definitely pretty bad. That said, it literally doesn't matter either.

[@JuztLiz]

Honestly as a sniper myself I did realize it a bit however it didn't affect me much or all the time

[@Bowser.x45x.Aurelion]

Hey Tones

[@dizzy_the_dork]

I honestly never noticed the input delay myself. I already could aim with sniper weapons to save my life, so I'm not too bummed out XD

[@drakithu8025]

After having played +3,500 hours in Splat2 and while not being a full competitive player, I have at least participated in a few tournaments here and there and I have never had any sort of problem with input delay. Granted I play exclusively in handheld mode, so I'm not sure if that plays any part in it.

[@247guy]

A huge problem? If this only applies to Speedruners and competitive players then that’s not a majority of people. A major problem for those people (not saying it is invalid) but not a major problem overall

[@racoonsgowild2971]

Literally never noticed

[@dasher6110]

bro they don't fix it bc it's not possible to fix it on the game, you need to play with cable controller if you want less input delay or a controller made for that

[@Null82085]

I literally didn’t notice any input delay until a couple of months ago when I saw someone bitching about it on Twitter, and I’ve been playing for about 6 years ( including the breaks I took when the splat 2 meta shit itself like 3 times) if I didn’t notice then it’s not that big a deal

[@AnekinRed]

The part about non-shooter weapons being meta because delay is incredibly incorrect. The only time it became even remotely like that was during tri meta at the beginning of the game because the weapon was broken. None of the other weapons listed were ever meta.

[@hirahiro2331]

Thank you because I was confused about what he said. Thought I joined 2 years ago to Splatoon, I felt like that information was just...wrong 🤔

[@tinycandleman]

"If you told a Valorant player they had to play with 100ms of mouse delay, they'd quit on the spot" Me who has a smooth, steady 120ms internet delay on Valorant: _>

[@one4all885]

I don't feel any lag, and if you can't deal with the natural lag, you don't have good timing and only make excuses. There are some players that are good with the dynamo roller and that takes a long time to swing. Splatoon is the most fun shooting game, just as Mariokart is the most fun racing game.

[@krispykringle1258]

I have over 500 hours in splatoon 2 and input delay has never been an issue for me, hell i've never even seen anyone complain about it before tbh y'all are just nitpicking at this point

[@ActualAlien_]

I have a grand total of almost 620 hours on Splatoon 2, and never once noticed any input lag. If I roll with the Dualies I roll right when I press the button. I main like 4 different weapon types and still haven't noticed it. So far, Splatoon 3 actually feels quicker and better to play.

[@Kiballui06]

Pc players when they pass to 180fps to 179 fps: Dude don't cry 10ms is nothing

[@mattevolto]

that part about delay making sub optimal weapons more viable is completely made up lmao. who told you that

[@Feeelixx-hp8ce]

"Charger flicks are too hard to do in high level cp" Sure bro, because you are a high level cp player. Thats like saying someone is hacking because you suck at aiming. Its also literally a switch problem, like you can see an input delay on the switch´s menu

[@tari7868]

are you really comparing $1500 pcs to a game entirely ran on a small tablet

[@hirahiro2331]

OKAY SO I WASNT THE ONLY ONE CONFUSED! like, why are you on a computer anyways? He could've modded it.

[@AwakenedRAGEJustin]

This is a problem why? And how? It’s not like it makes it impossible to play, hell I never even noticed this, Imo you are over exaggerating it😐

[@Jornker]

Never been noticeable to me, feels like this video was made to get clout for saying "oh the game is already really bad"

[@ManaAsuhaS3]

"the fact they didnt change it going into splatoon 3 means its heavily baked into the code" or they dont see it as a problem since everyone has it. besides if it bothers you so much theres a reason we have settings for the stick and motion controls. so pull up your diaper and stop complaining (this is more aimed towards comp players who take the game so serious they will throw their controller if they loose tower control)

[@hirahiro2331]

Yup. Nintendo would tackle a problem in a heart beat if it's an actual issue. But this isn't. This is just another reason to say "it's not your fault you lost, it's the game!"

[@Mr._Milou]

If y’all are that bothered by this tiny little delay just plug your controller in your switch, it’ll even take you less energy than complaining about things like that

[@phishfoood]

Input delay is the same wired or wireless

[@糰青]

I'm prob being a bitch abt this but like, the input delay in Splat 2 has a tiny effect, if any, in comp. I can assure you that a comp player will bring up other "huge problems" (Latency, shooter meta, k52, missles, etc) before they talk about input delay. Also, people play weapons like inkbrush, trislosher, and rapid blaster, because they accomplish different goals than a charger or jetschelcher. Brush and tri specifically play close to the enemy while rapid blaster places chip in areas charger and jet can't reach.

[@ActuallyMoist]

to be honest i’ve actually never noticed the input delay.. and like you said i’m just excited to play the next game about squids

[@BasementDweller_]

There’s a Delay!? I’ve never noticed it and I got over 2,000 hours of Splatoon 2.

[@meh-o1n]

Oh god A delay of 1 second how sad I’m shaking and crying rn waaaaaaaaaaah

[@ItzYaBoiMop]

"There was a point in time that the meta had no shooters" what is bro talking about?? Hasn't the meta always had some sort of shooter bc of how good some of them r like nzap. I'm not a pro player but from what I've seen from pros, shootets have always been part of the meta someway.

[@thesaltgod]

At launch, the Tri-Slosher was super meta, but not at all because of input delay or it being tough to aim them. Shooters just didn't ink the ground in 1.0 nearly as well as they do now, and the Tri-Slosher had the absolutely BUSTED kit of Burst Bomb + Ink Armor. Sure, it was easy to aim, but that wasn't the whole of it. A mere fraction as to why 3 of them were often run on a team.

[@UberDragon]

Did Splatoon 1 have significantly more/less or about the same input delay?

[@maplemiles3381]

I never notice any input lag when playing Splatoon 2

[@tizurl]

So many people here saying they don’t feel the delay… S1 has way less delay than 2 but although it is still a small delay, you can notice it sometimes when doing quick movements

[@Kllian_d]

So as I understand, there’s no problem at all

[@coder-c6961]

I played splatoon 1 and 2 a lot. I use a pro controller while I haven't noticed the input too bad. I do notice the tic rate a lot. Search it up and you'll see what I mean. I personally hope that the tic rate is fixed

[@robotoboy30]

I don't think it will be, but the P2P stability and netcode will be better at least. It's using the MHRise netcode.

[@MokoiAruka]

I get that you are upset that there’s a slight input delay that many people don’t notice but that won’t ruin the ENTIRE game because so, The game is already proving to be sick as hell with new mechanics then both previous games combined. I really wish people just stop trying to nickpick a game that isn’t really ready yet and with more patches and updates to come in the future, It’s upsetting people only look for the bad and make it seem like a huge deal. :(

[@theguyman5425]

On god bro for real, imagine getting mad over a few ticks of input delay. Guy makes it sound like its impossible to play the game competitively at all because of a few milliseconds. imagine being such a sweat you deadass quit a game cuz of that, picky as hell.

[@VisorByte]

@@theguyman5425 They need to touch some grass fr, I don't even notice a delay, even in the slowmo video

[@Luma-ht6sg]

I never knew there was delay

[@CJBox9]

the only times i really have a problem with it is when i'm trying to jump from the very edge of something but end up falling instead. Usually when I'm trying to pull an oob glitch

[@torgeglitched2932]

I have a even more big Problem.Im playing in Europe and it always says then i enter the Lobby that there is no Splatfest and kicks me out

[@yourmum6528]

The splatfest starts on the 27th, come back in a couple days lol

[@inky1_]

@@yourmum6528 it's a joke lol

[@yourmum6528]

@@inky1_ Well it wasn't funny...

[@inky1_]

@@yourmum6528 well that doesn't change it was still a joke...

[@yourmum6528]

@@inky1_ You're not the one who made the "joke" so how can you say? Why are you even saying it's a joke? It's worded like an inquiry.

[@starrywisp]

I didn’t even notice anything like that ever on either game. Granted, I only really use handheld mode, but still.

[@kip258]

I always had a hard time adjusting to gyro aim in splatoon 2 even though I use it in other games with a Steam controller. That totally makes sense and now that you've pointed it out it's really obvious.

[@sltrskid]

i have genuinely never noticed input delay in splatoon, like at all

[@Cruznick06]

Input Delay has never been an issue in Splatoon2 for me. Joycon drift? Oh definitely. But Input Delay, no. I have ~700 hours into the game. I will say Splatoon on the WiiU has near-zero latency and I deeply miss using the Gamepad. I have 1700 hours in Splatoon due to being competitive back then. I stopped being competitive because of the changes to balance and overall my life has been way busier. Granted I am NOT and never have been a charger main.

[@MikachuXD]

I never noticed any input delay even while having a wireless pro controller or joy Cons

[@Filon73]

Input delay in Splatoon? Never noticed in 300 hours on Splatoon 2

[@timmitt]

That's why I always play Splatoon in handheld mode. I think the delay is much smaller in handheld or at least it feels like there's less delay.

[@SkyBlueDesign1]

I never heard of somebody mad about this

[@Ordercrime1]

I think we are taking it to far in here. Splatoon its is own world separate from pc competitive. Sure input lag can be a problem but in splatoon not really, you don't need strong faster response times when nobody else does. If we are talking about pc games like fortnite or anything else. Then it would be understandable to use it because everyone can or does. this issue doesn't really affect splatoon gameplay

[@TroboTicTac]

It is not a huge problem People used Sloshers not because of it being easier to aim, but because it killed in 1 or 2 hits If you can't aim, thats because you suck not because of delay

[@samwilson1470]

bro its not even noticeable what

[@gabeth1058]

never seen a single person complain about this ever and I’ve played this game since the beginning of splatoon 1

[@shadowlightboy6681]

so it only affects competetive players, i’m not one of them. so glad i don’t have to complain about this

[@ScootTooner]

Well no it affects everyone. You don’t have to be good at the game to notice it

[@hirahiro2331]

I'm competitive and there's no issue 🤔.

[@outzymes3636]

Uggh i hate it when I press jump and it takes 0.00000000001 milliseconds longer to jump its SOOOOOOOO annoying 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄👊👊👊👊👊👊

[@mysos3399]

I started following splatoon A LOT recently, even if I followed it a bit even before and I'm also a new player, but it's funny how I didn't know anything about this and felt it immediately (probably because I've played other online competitive games a lot before)

[@boredcommenter1576]

This is the dumbest complaint ever.

[@GamesareJoy]

🤷‍♀️ get good or something? Idk. Input lag It has literally never bothered me. As a gamer you notice every game has input lag. Splatoon is fun. Worth whatever competitive edge I lose to be able to flail my arms around and make a mess on my TV. 😂🤷‍♀️ Use an LAN if you are so concerned and want a REAL edge that is achievable.

[@snow3pea]

i hate it. i don't play in TV / tabletop mode because of this. it is a lot less noticeable if you just play in handheld mode, so i never find myself using my 70$ pro controller 😭

[@certifiedtrash3152]

That's really not that much of a problem

[@SpicyInk]

I notice it, there where many times I pressed a button in a critical time and died before it even did what it was supposed to

[@hirahiro2331]

Could be a controller issue. That's when I received those problems

[@omegamemer69420]

80 or more hours of splatoon 2, running through the entirety of hero mode 3 times, multiple hours of salmon run and turf war, and yet I don’t notice the input delay.

[@fifgen4]

The only problem I’ve been having is the pro controller stick drift. Input delay doesn’t really affect me that much, but not being able to move at full speed forward just because my left stick wants to drift backwards is just really annoying, but it still isn’t enough of an issue to be game losing

[@BassBanj0]

Since when was there input delay? Seriously never noticed it

[@SolidusSnake001]

It didn't feel off to me in the brief tutorial. I would've preferred using the analog stick really. I'm just old school like that. lol I just wish the Fire Range was open. I wanted to get in some practice with the weapons since I'm a 100% bonafied noobling.

[@arkyflame1599]

Agreed with the firing range, considering how they changed jump shot rng, and the new roll mechanic, It would have been nice to test it out and get used to it before splatfest starts

[@carlos41519]

You can actually choose analog aim if you didnt know

[@SolidusSnake001]

@@carlos41519 Ya I did. But it won't let you in the tutorial. This my first time playing Splatoon. The matches get pretty intense.

[@carlos41519]

@@SolidusSnake001 thats true. Have you been enjoying the game? Its been forever since ive played a splatoon game for the first time so its nice to hear a new perspective

[@SolidusSnake001]

@@carlos41519 Yup. My first match my team absolutely destroyed the other team 56 to 22. That was a pretty memorable first game. lol

[@生-死]

500 hours into splat 2 and the only delay I’ve found is the few frame delay after killing some1 which allows them to kill u back

[@glitch8173]

i have a solid 1.6k hours and haven’t ever noticed even a slight amount of delay even when paying close attention from a 3m distance

[@ferimokis3931]

Overexageration

[@emmatiko2064]

honestly im so use to it that its no noticable anymore. been like that for years

[@eeskaatt]

went in expecting it’s a game breaker but it just turns out it’s just a sore loser rant

[@switchyduckk]

I have literally never noticed input delay

[@thetacticianmusician4603]

I can assure you, no one is losing a tournament because of input delay, at ANY competitive level. Especially if the delay is exactly the same for everyone, 100% of the time (as in it's always consistent). If a "pro" player doesn't play the game with the input delay in mind, then they're probably not actually a "pro" player. When the delay is consistent, then there are no "random" or "unfair" losses, because everyone has the same problem.