Split brain with one half atheist and one half theist

Neurologist VS Ramachandran explains the case of split-brain patients with one hemisphere without a belief in a god, and the other with a belief in a god. (Clip taken from talk at 2006 Beyond Belief Conference, link below)
Link to Ramachandran's full talk (about 39 minutes into the video):
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More information about patient "L.B." referenced in this video:
The "theist-atheist" is "L.B.," who underwent section of the corpus callosum and anterior and hippocampal commissures in 1963, when he was 12 years 11 months old: www.academia.e...
He was one of the two most tested split-brain patients in history: books.google.c...
You probably are already familiar with a paper about L.B.'s perception of a line-motion illusion: www.academia.e...
When L.B. was shown Penrose's impossible triangle (a visual anomaly) in one visual field and then the other, the anomaly was only noticed when the triangle was presented to the left visual field (or right hemisphere): ion.uwinnipeg.c...
"Unlike most split-brain patients, L.B. demonstrates unusually effective ipsilateral motor control of both hands": books.google.c...
L.B. is also one of three unusual split-brain subjects whose normally silent Right Hemisphere can "respond verbally to stimuli" [from what I have read elsewhere, that means one or two word answers]: books.google.c...
"Ramanchandran (2003)... describes a study that showed that the non-verbal right hemisphere of a split-brain patient can lie: for instance after receiving instructions from researcher A ("to lie" to the patient (non-verbally) signed the wrong answer to researcher B. They also tested the personality and aesthetic preferences of the two hemispheres' 'selves' by training the right hemisphere to communicate 'yes' or 'no,' or 'I don't know' non-verbally by picking one of three abstract shapes with the left hand, and received surprising results that showed the two hemispheres can simultaneously hold contradictory views. For example, in patient LB the left hemisphere said it believed in God whereas the right hemisphere insisted that it was an atheist!: books.google.c...
"Imagine our surprise when we noticed that in patient LB the left hemisphere said it believed in God whereas the right hemisphere signaled that it was an atheist. The inter-trial consistency of this needs to be verified but the very least it shows that the two hemispheres can simultaneously hold contradictory views on God." Ramanchandran, 2003 books.google.c...
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Someone also took a look at the humor of split-brain patients L.B. ["Philip"]and N.G. ["Linda"] since in both cases the right hemispheres was unusual in being able to "respond verbally to stimuli." books.google.c...
"Zaidel once asked Philip [=L.B. according to his endnote?] a series of questions directed to his left and right hemispheres and found that the two sides of his brain had different personalities and outlooks on life. His left hemisphere experienced relatively low self-esteem while his right hemisphere [the "atheist" hemisphere according to Ramachandran] saw itself rather positively. The right side also experienced greater loneliness and sadness. Another split-brain patient's right hemisphere was particularly influenced by childhood memories of being bullied, even though his left hemisphere denied finding such experiences disturbing." books.google.c...
Source: www.facebook.c...

[@wimsweden]

See description box for more information about the split-brain patient referenced by VS Ramachandran, including links to sources.

[@mkb6418]

"Does the one hemisphere goes to heaven will the other to hell?"

[@TheRealFlenuan]

lol

[@kapildevneupane8072]

Dawkins and other people should start using this argument :D XD

[@stunningfilipinabeauties]

Maybe htis is what happens when you cut the lobes of a hypocrite

[@bigfan1041]

That's the left hemisphere talking ;)

[@lovestarlightgiver2402]

The brain is a tool and we can choose which side becomes more dominant, with focus and mental exercises.

[@BluePiggy]

This is both fascinating and hilarious.

[@VestigialHead]

The religious community have started a Flat Brain Society to counter Ramachandrans' theories.

[@testikuskitestdrivr6012]

YOU FUCKING MADE MY YEAR 2021 and I'm gonna feel this the whole year. Thank you.

[@deepant7036]

Elon be like: BRUH!

[@scraylux]

That made my day

[@DH-rs6cq]

I am a theist. This experiment is awesome. The right hemisphere is your conduit to God. It's your conscience. It's your spiritual side. This is on secular levels true. So when everyone laughs It's silly because I get what they were thinking, he explained it after, but it only shows we link to God through the conscience and the conscience is on the right. I've been an atheist. I know all the retorts in the book well. That's the problem is your left side is separated, it only looks for what it can see and it can only uncover things that were already created, science for example uncovers things that were already created. Newton didn't invent gravity he uncovered it. If the left brain seeks God it is like an NPC that's sentient finding the coder. Unless the coder wants you to know things about him you could never find him no matter how much code you discovered. The coder must code himself in. Otherwise he can watch his creation run itself with complexity and balance...like the universe does.

[@Swaaaat1]

You're not an atheist man. Don't fake it.

[@therealzilch]

Both my hemispheres are going to Hell. The left for sinful ideas, the right for sinful feelings. Bummer.

[@விஷ்ணு_கார்த்திக்]

i don't see what's wrong with going to hell honestly.. i'd much rather be in hell where 99% of humanity lies.

[@therealzilch]

***** Most of my friends will be there for sure. Look me up if you go there too, and lunch is on me at the hellfire barbecue.

[@stonesteinberg6041]

+Scott Wallace The good news is that the promised Messiah Jesus Christ died for everyone's sins. If you believe in Jesus Christ and repent and you to can be saved.

[@islamastrolojisi]

+Scott Wallace Left Brain LA İLAHE means There are no Gods. Right Brain İLLA ALLAH ( But The God). This is the answer..

[@Angelmou]

+Ayhan „Ayhan Özcimbit“ Ozcimbit That is not how Left brain (analytics math etc.) and right brain (poetry, music, sexual satisfaction) works. And you can also cut Islam and any knowledge just out of the brain. ;-)

[@Comrade2face]

I keep on switching from a theist to agnostic to atheist every month, and i always suspected my brain is to blame for these inner revolutions of thought

[@JoostRingoot]

Mr. Ramachandran mixes something up: Either his observations are inverted or his conclusions are inverted: 1:40 So I said "do you believe in god", and the right hemisphere went straight to yes. 1:44 I asked the same question to the left hemisphere "yes", "no", "I don' know". It went to no. 1:51 So here is a human being who's right hemisphere is an atheist. And the left Hemisphere on the other hand believes in god.

[@istantinoplebullconsta642]

You are correct, he mixed the two up at that point. But I think the audience clearly understood what he meant.

[@SecHummer]

Don't get side-tracked from the big picture with a trivial error. Theology says people go to Hell or Heaven, but this person believed both at the same time, as if two people. Science has a way of destroying religion. More info: "Modern Science and Philosophy Destroy Christian Theology" www.amazon.com/Science-Philosophy-Destroy-Christian-Theology/dp/1490479341

[@JoostRingoot]

It's to me like if some persons would be smarter if the religious brainhalf would be destroyed, so that they could think clear and critical.

[@xfghkhjfsejid]

Big deal. You really spent your time typing that out huh?

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@JoostRingoot actually you are completely wrong for it is the right hemisphere that helps us to incorporate the largest picture (holistic perception of reality) into our thinking. Clear and critical, thus, doesn't come from the left hemisphere but the harmonious cooperation of the two. In fact subjects with the right hemisphere disabled e.g. in an experimental setting - for example with specific electromagnetic pulses - or by a debilitating stroke, are unable to perceive humour, will make various interpreting errors (hence Gazzaniga named the left hemisphere "the Interpreter") in general will fail miserably in basic understanding and interaction with the world.

[@theodorev666]

legendary presentation skills :)

[@SecHummer]

Great material!

[@felixsanchez5103]

Cgp grey

[@Drostie]

This is presumably why Jesus told you to not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. ;-)

[@reggin867]

are you still saying stupid shit after 7 years?

[@crdrost]

@@reggin867 oh yeah. Actually my affinity for bad jokes has probably gotten worse

[@hexa1905]

left brain control right part of the body. so jesus ask this split brain patient to go with ateism.

[@CosmiaNebula]

Matthew 6:3?

[@baselbilleh8555]

This is completely wrong if you actually believe it xD because the left controls right side of the body and left controls right side.

[@KristianKumpula]

Seems like god forgot about people with split personalities when deciding on what basis he'll condemn people to eternal torment. And forgot about morality when he decided he'll condemn people to eternal torment.

[@darkswordgamer9496]

Kristian Kumpula I

[@shanewilson7994]

I'm curious, does anyone have a link to the actual research on this? I'd like to have it handy in case it comes up again.

[@austin3789]

Same here. Data or it didn't happen.

[@coderkamath7394]

You know you can always replicate science. Replicating Miracle is another thing though

[@austin3789]

@@coderkamath7394 *you can always replicate science* Oh, really? Replicate the Big Bang. Or how about the origin of Dinosaurs. Good luck.

[@retrocademediaofficial]

@@austin3789 They obviously mean you can always replicate an experiment, don't be that guy

[@austin3789]

@@retrocademediaofficial why is it so obvious? Is it because his previous statement as written was such obvious nonsense you assumed he wouldn't be so uninformed as to mean it literally? Fair point. Not everyone reading is as informed as you or presumably @coder kamath to catch his category error.

[@Raptorel]

At 1:52 he should've said "the right hemisphere believes in God and the left hemisphere is an atheist"... he messed them around.

[@SecHummer]

Don't miss the forest for the trees on a trivial point.

[@Raptorel]

SecHummer I just wanted to be clear on that :)

[@MasterMario14]

He probably meant right and left hand when he was talking about where they pointed.

[@pandaabro5484]

Wait why do you believe it's the wrong way around? The right hand is controlled by the left hemisphere and vise versa and it was the right hand believing in god/left hemisphere answering. Totally possible I screwed up, didn't re-watch the video 'cause lazy.

[@alithea1196]

Yeah what was that about I wonder. Clearly he's a scientist, that's such a basic mistake to make.

[@finleycastello6512]

*I love my other hemisphere.*

[@chrisvanoire3328]

i love how in the comments many people are just repeating exactly what Rama said. Geniuses.

[@gastarbeiter1]

"But there is support behind my views. I'm going to have a video on this." I am really looking forward to it^^

[@Nckolas20]

Is there a source or scientific paper I can read about this study or experiment?

[@whithaw]

Perform youtube search for corpus callosum and you'll find video from Dartmouth researcher performing described tests on his subject after severing the CC. The video mentions his name, and you can then find associated papers... I don't recall his name off hand, but the video is well done.

[@whithaw]

by the way, this guy was just telling a joke, but he told it using his understanding of the experiments after severing the CC.

[@zes3813]

wrr

[@Angelmou]

+SciGuy journals.plos .org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0149989 (without gaps) as a newer one.

[@ifhesamanandshesamanimhugh2252]

NO 1:33 He says one side has humor but asserts the other side is telling the truth without demonstrating the full memorability of the brain...

[@sinansipo]

Idk wtf this CGP is. I'm here cause I'm a curious human being who digs deep in KZbin and comes across awesome stuff like this. Anyways, that last sentence tho: "So what happens if there is a God. Does one hemisphere go to heaven and the other one to hell?". So thought provoking. I loved this video.

[@NXTMusicianBassist]

CGP Grey is a popular KZbinr who produces videos about history, geography, and science. I recommend him!

[@PinkeySuavo]

I'm digging also. That's how I finished on CGP and came here right after.

[@KvS1x3]

Sipo Elminster answer neither because hell isn't real

[@stardust4001]

rainbow junk Neither heaven

[@ayshazaheen3402]

blasphmous boi that’s your belief

[@shawnparkspost]

Each hemisphere controls one of the eyes. They cover one eye and have the person read the question with the other eye. So only the hemisphere that controls that eye knows what is being asked.

[@delilah873]

that is not true. the right hemisphere controls the left visual field of both eyes, and the left hemisphere controls the right visual field of both eyes.

[@OphaniumProductions]

This is the most incoherent comments section I have ever seen.

[@IJustLoveStories]

It's interesting, cause it makes you wonder how each hemisphere tackles that question. What info does it collect and connect? To what extend does it matter what the person believed prior to having their brain split? What does that say about how a connected brain handles the question?

[@joeshabe]

and what if one part of the brain decided to joke around or get some hype?

[@JamesHawkeYouTube]

The problem is in the cultural paradigm and framing of "belief in God". Both of subject and researcher. Our real connection with our true Creator is via the heart and is felt innately. It is not a cognitive brain process. Neither is it a religious matter or a belief. It has been lost by most modern people.

[@kapildevneupane8072]

I have been thinking this for some while, but could not find the answer... Can they voluntarily close their left eye and feel that it's closed?

[@DH-rs6cq]

I am a theist. This experiment is awesome. The right hemisphere is your conduit to God. It's your conscience. It's your spiritual side. This is on secular levels true. So when everyone laughs It's silly because I get what they were thinking, he explained it after, but it only shows we link to God through the conscience and the conscience is on the right. I've been an atheist. I know all the retorts in the book well. That's the problem is your left side is separated, it only looks for what it can see and it can only uncover things that were already created, science for example uncovers things that were already created. Newton didn't invent gravity he uncovered it. If the left brain seeks God it is like an NPC that's sentient finding the coder. Unless the coder wants you to know things about him you could never find him no matter how much code you discovered. The coder must code himself in. Otherwise he can watch his creation run itself with complexity and balance...like the universe does.

[@SkullyTheHypnoSkull]

Well, not exactly. Your pineal gland is your conduit if anything. You need to balance each side, you need to understand both freewill (left side) and God (right side).

[@MrTodd623]

I saw the Rikti avatar and knew it was you. Browsing through my comment replies atm. XP

[@KesserCFC4eva]

Cracked! It's the same dude from the blindsight video!

[@DH-rs6cq]

I've always believed the right brain makes sense for our conduit to God anyway. The left side is great for science and observation. The right is more unbound.

[@gastarbeiter1]

And I am still waiting for your favoured version of the KCA by the way.Are you afraid?Have you now seen how easy it is to stall and even refute it?

[@B0SSNINE]

Im in AP Psych right now, and just recently studied the brain. The Left Hemisphere is the logical one (math, for example) and it always wants to think things through, or think of WHY it does something. The Right Hemisphere is the one that says "I dont know, and I dont care - im doing it anyways!" In this video, the guy said the Split-Brain patient's Left HS believed in God, while the Right HS didn't. The HS that thought stuff through believed in God... Awesome!!! (Im a Christian)

[@tomnottom5768]

12 years later but… he said the other way round, Right Hemisphere said Yes…

[@Swaaaat1]

Yes, we can tell you're a Christian

[@bradgrady7497]

I love the KCA. What is your favorite problem with the KCA?

[@nelle6363]

What I'd love to know is, *was the person an atheist or religious before the procedure?* I think it's a hugely important question to ask if you're going to dissect it theologically. If religious beforehand, you could say that the sense of God that the right hemisphere had influenced the left to rationally believe. If atheist beforehand, you could say that the left hemisphere always rationalized away the sense of God, and without its influence, the right was free to believe without doubt. You can also view it from the opposite perspective, where the right hemisphere simply imagined a sense of God, and without the left's rationalization to contradict, the right freely believed a fantasy. I'd like to point out that this scenario doesn't line up with the research however. The left hemisphere is known to come up with valid rationalizations for situations it finds itself in, yet the rationalizations are completely untrue. (Example: the right hand gives left hand an object; left brain says it's holding the object because it likes the color, or some other reason.) Whereas the right brain, as evidenced by this video, seems grounded in reality. Just some thoughts. I'd be interested in reading other people's insights.

[@soccergurl82110]

@Ihatemelee That's what split brain means. The corpus collosum (the part that connects the two hemispheres) is severed (the karate chop he refers to). Therefore the two sides cannot communicate and cannot interfere with one another.

[@greyeyed123]

@Ihatemelee The brain is split. There is no need to "keep the other side from knowing" because the two sides of the brain cannot communicate with each other and have different functions. He explained this in the video. I'm still not exactly certain what you mean. It's the same as if you had two people side by side, and asked them a series of questions. The fact that both may (or may not) hear all the questions simultaneously doesn't in the least mean they will agree with each other.

[@bjarbj944]

I think this just shows that theological beliefs are centered in a part of the brain that resides in the either the right or left hemisphere. It is a somewhat localized process.

[@muppetgal]

If you listen carefully he says the right side said yes and the left side said no...then immediately says ''so the right side is an atheist'' So I don't know what the correct answer is here.

[@GodsArePeopleToo]

@wimsweden i think that's an incomplete or broken url i get a search page that mentions watches, lol

[@1simonmatthews]

I'd like to know more about this case. Did one side have feeling on one side of the body, and the other have feeling on the other side? Or could both new personalities feel the whole body simultaneously? Did they share memories of the past, or did only one feel like the original, whilst the other felt new? Did one see through one eye, and the other through the other eye? And how the hell do you know which one is talking, because there's only one mouth?! How could control of the mouth switch?

[@acatfrompoland5230]

10 years into the future, there are some great youtube videos that explain a lot more!

[@1simonmatthews]

@@acatfrompoland5230 Wow, how strange! I remember writing this comment but so much has happened to me in the past 10 years it's weird that I remember it at all. I'd like to see those videos. Can you post a link here?

[@acatfrompoland5230]

@@1simonmatthews kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZe8k5qapJ2YY5o This video raises a lot of thought provoking questions.

[@claudiochianese9850]

Do we actually have a paper published somewhere, or it's just this guy telling a story? Because without a controlled study this has the exact same value of that old Lorber's finding about a patient with almost no brain and normal cognition. You can find anecdotes pointing in any direction if you look hard enough.

[@pauldirc..]

See description

[@goaliedude32]

I did not say "a creator must be more complex than its creation" an no currently humans can't create things more complex than a fully functioning living organism such as ourselves. I am not making a claim that "creators are always more complex than its creation" that is just what we are used to.

[@namesameasu]

The discussion here was about necessity. If laws are just descriptions and subject to revision, then they're not necessary by definition.

[@alamin104]

@wimsweden I was trying to paste a link but it does not work, do u know how I can paste a website link here?

[@namesameasu]

They may have been heavier, but smaller as well. I have yet to find the title, but there's a archeologist in a video demonstrating how the spears of homo sapeins were far more advanced than that of Neanderthals. The weapons of Neanderthals for food gathering required that the hunter had to be close-up to the animals, whereas those of the homo sapiens allowed them to be at a distance.

[@Xshado2]

@wimsweden Lets get back to the topic of the video... Even though I am Muslim, and I'm religious, I still think Ramachandran is a genius, he is extraordinary... I love his work, I admire it... The mirror image to relieve the phantom pain was true genius... Just because I love the Quran, and I am faithful to my God, does not mean I am stupid.. As many Americans think we are..

[@genexie533]

I think this is the best answer so far: "no if someone has a mental disability, or has never been able to conciously accept Christ, then God will have pity. He does not throw people who are ill or who are never able to hear His word into the pits of hell. And furthermore, belief in God goes beyond the mind. Yes your mind may be convinced you believe, but faith in God is an inner transformation and an outward action of faith (putting hope in God, doing good deeds) as is love"

[@namesameasu]

BTW: The whole debate was this: Some people believe the physical sciences, and their findings, should be prioritized, and we should only make rational claims based on their conclusions. Well, I disagree: not everything in reality is necessarily physical. Some say there's no "evidence" of anything but physical entities, but that to me limits the term "evidence" to physical, and begs the question. It's also an assumption, while my claim is a possibllity claim, supported *in part* by consistency.

[@Megaritz]

@MGX890 That was what he initially said at 1:40, but after that, starting at 1:51, he said the right hemisphere was an atheist and the left hemisphere believed in God--so one of those two times, he misspoke. Still, a fascinating experiment.

[@TtttTt-ub5xb]

الي جاي من الدحيح

[@Philosophantry]

It looked like he was trying to recite a lot of this from memory, plus he was giving a speech in front of a bunch of people and might have been a bit nervous. He was probably trying to just get the point across and mixed up which was which by accident

[@chadwick0091]

@jab842 "I believe that the true reason why the left side of brain does not believe in god is because it views itself as god." or it's because the left hemisphere of the brain is logical side ;)

[@TheBoomstickhero]

carfox is correct. The idea that the left side of the brain deals with logic and the right side deals with creativity is a misinterpretation of the science, and neuroscientists definitely agree with carfox and me. Everything you do, whether it be art, science, or whatever, involves both parts of the brain. You can't say that the right side is the creative side when both sides are actively involved in being creative, or that the left side is logical, when both sides are involved with logic.

[@beenn15]

@Ihatemelee they had to point at the responses with different hands... left hand is controlled by the right hemisphere and right hand by the left.

[@metaldude82]

This only refutes the Cartesian viewpoint. The Thomistic viewpoint actually fits well with these findings.

[@asdfvtn]

@1simonmatthews one mouth comment; that's why the speaker said that he got the person to point. In human physiology, the right hemisphere attributes to philosophy, music, creativity, and intuition mainly. On the other hand, the left hemisphere attributes mainly to logic, math, language, and analytical skills. In the case of a corpus callosotomy, the left and right brain are mostly separated to reduce seizures. I don't think this is a real experiment though, take this video with a grain of salt.

[@lujainmheidat6662]

And for that reason ...God created us in the best image so that we are free to choose in normal cases ..NOT DIRECTED

[@annmariealanes1373]

Is it me or did he switch the hemispheres during his explanation? It would make sense to me that the right hemisphere would believe in God since the right hemisphere is usually associated with creativity and creation.

[@namesameasu]

You can call it a hypothesis if you want. But there is support behind my views. I'm going to have a video on this.

[@HigherThanTrump]

It can co-exist.. I mean, if you go from materialistic point of view our experiences are all moderated by our brains.. so if somebody is having a spiritual experience entirely from their brain, there must be outside sources triggering these effects.. either way, its real to the persons experience. But I believe the brain creates those experiences, and without it we are no more than we were prior to birth (maybe a bad assumption, "I don't claim to know when you die you get a dial tone")

[@housemoney1]

@1:43 "so I said, do you believe in god? and the right hemisphere went straight to yes" @1:53 "here is a human being whose right hemisphere is an athiest" @1:43 I think he meant right arm went straight to yes, which is the left hemisphere saying it is a thiest, which is also the hemisphere that confabulates and makes up stories when it doesn't understand what is going on

[@noaht8592]

right hemisphere is the creative one left is the logical one sorry

[@bjjolley]

@ooLevityoo - That's a different question. "Does god exist" is not the same question as "do you believe in god." You can be unsure about god's existence while being sure how you feel about the issue.

[@cloudoftime]

Does anyone have a link to a journal entry on this? I've searched Google extensively, and all I can find is this one short clip being discussed as gospel everywhere. Where is the actual documentation?

[@jab842]

I think people are misinterpreting the results. I believe that the true reason why the left side of brain does not believe in god is because it views itself as god. or simply it does not attribute its consciousness to its physical self and rather treats itself as a medium. I think if you were to ask the questions differently we would gain more insight.

[@namesameasu]

Because flight requires space-time by definition, whereas mind does not. Mind is experienced as a non-physical activity: we experience content, not physicality. You may say that the brain is required for the mind, and I'd agree: but it's not determined whether that brain originates thought or simply manifests ideas. The former would be physical, the latter not. The latter is what we experience, the former has the burden of proof with its added claim to that experience: physical production.

[@nicolareddwooddforest4481]

In his studies the right sides always say Yes when asked whether the person believes in a god. In rare cases only says the left side of the brain No. Usually both sides say yes as seen in the demographics. The atheists say No but only in the left hemisphere.

[@MaximumAxiom]

@B0SSNINE "Evolution IS where they break off into new life" You mean speciziation, Evolution is generally defined as "change over time in one or more inherited traits found in populations of organisms", but it has other scientific definitions. I was talking about new information in my earlier comment, if you want a example of speciziation then look at Diana Dodd's famous Fruit Fly experiment which suggests that isolating environments can lead to reproductive isolation, hence speciziation.

[@bradgrady7497]

You have a KCA argument too? Can I hear it?

[@namesameasu]

I blocked one person in my youtube "career": gastarbeiter. It's because AFTER TWO YEARS of replying to his THOUSANDS of lame replies, and answering the same questions over and over, he still couldn't mention to me just one thing he could agree with me on. You can't have a discussion if there's no consensus on any level. My blocking him, tho, seems to have inflated his ego a bit. it just goes to demonstrate how can you build on more than one infinity.

[@ginkner]

I can't seem to find a link to a paper discussing this. Can anyone help?

[@adamorly2971]

He misspeaks! He says the right hemisphere believes in god and then says the right hemisphere is an atheist. I'm assuming he means to say that the unconscious mind DOES believe in god.

[@ParadiseLordRyu]

But the right and left aren’t your conscious and subconscious brains

[@kiovff9256]

@@ParadiseLordRyu yes

[@CarFox6]

There is a lot of evidence from credible sources claiming that it is false. Each side of the brain is necessary for both creative tasks like painting and more logical tasks like mathematics. There are specialized parts of the brain, but it's not as simple as "artsy, creative side" and "logical, calculating side."

[@oliverutriainen2837]

I didn't mean that this explanation of mine is real, I was asked what I mean't and so explained the idea in my question. And my question was wether or not it is this way.

[@AtheistKharm]

can't believe this has only 13k views..

[@winterstellar]

@mayrana2 at 1.54 he says "the right hemisphere is an atheist". So we're not all deaf here. : )

[@nealmackie]

Love it! And really does raise some serious questions........ For theism of course

[@PatrickGreeneFearwriter]

Look like a good place to say "it's the devil's work!"

[@1simonmatthews]

@MGX890 Sometimes I feel like a completely different person, especially in the morning haha! Only I think to myself that I can't be a different person because I have the same memories. But it suddenly hit me (literally tonight) that I could be a different person at these times, only with access to the same memories. This would correlate with what you're saying, that there is no self as such, only what your brain produces, and a change in the brain's function would mean a change to the self?

[@GodsArePeopleToo]

@wimsweden ok i watched the vid, but i'm still not getting it, so i'll take a guess in order 2 conclude 1 side of the brain could say it believed in god, vs the other not believing... 1 side was asked in writing, the other w/ eyes closed & verbally? the concept makes sense 2 me because 1 side is emotional, the other logical, but i'm so confused as 2 how to get 2 answers from someone w/o mpd :-( btw, split brain is news to me, i wasn't aware they did something like this for some forms of epilepsy

[@nadayacross1613]

Hello, I work for Texas Woman's University in the Disability Services for Students office. One of our professors is using the following video as a part of their curriculum. Can you either upload accurate captions to this video to make them accessible to Deaf and Hard of Hearing people viewing the video, or will you give me permission to caption the video so that we can get this video captioned before the start of the fall semester? We are not able to use the auto-generated captions as they are not ADA-compliant. Thank you

[@wimsweden]

Hi Nadaya, I've uploaded captions. Let me know if anything needs to be changed in the captions.

[@goreth01]

@Xshado2: Because humans always argue over ideas. Which is good, otherwise the bad ideas would never die. And believers certainly don't let nonbelievers not believe what they want without mockery... Noone and nothing is entitled to protection from critizism or mockery, period. Also, we can live in peace regardless of that. At least my definition of peace doesn't include avoiding controversy at all costs.

[@NeosimianSapiens]

Any fans of Julian Jaynes here? If so, does the phenomenon described in this video surprise you at all? It's pretty much what Jaynes would have predicted, no? I'd be curious to know if this experiment has been conducted with other split-brain patients.

[@LynnBaber]

Thank you for your response, although it doesn't make much sense. You have a problem with my questioning something that may not be true? Science seeks to prove or disprove an hypothesis, not to believe everything as true unless something happens to change your mind. What question do you think I am afraid to answer? There is no reason to fear any question. If you have one, please feel free to ask. My job is to tackle difficult questions and I enjoy the process. In any event, best wishes.

[@Xshado2]

@wimsweden With all do respect, I would again like to point out that I have no ill feeling against you or you're belief, I am merely defending what I believe in... For I see it that a person who is criticized must defend; Am I right? All I'm trying to say is that I talk without anger or hostility, but for the nature of debate.. I am pleased that you can answer with such diligence, and admire you for it... Thank you for you're coherent and respective replies

[@Ficktao]

As it thus turns out, the right hemisphere is more dependable.

[@B0SSNINE]

@MaximumAxiom "If Creationism was true we would expect all the different types of E. coli to 'adapt' in the same way" Who says? Intelligent Design agrees with what happened -- different reactions per individual. You have very good points... the only problem is that your points are aiding ideas of which you have mistaken definitions for.

[@Joddit]

Wonderful video!! Intriguing question...

[@MaximumAxiom]

@B0SSNINE (1) "That is called Adaption, not Evolution." Microevolution is just instantaneous macroevolution because macroevolution is just microevolution over time. Two clear examples of new dramatic information are the famous Richard Lenski study, "E. coli long-term evolution experiment" where some of the E. coli developed new information. If Creationism was true we would expect all the different types of E. coli to "adapt" in the same way, but...

[@MaximumAxiom]

@B0SSNINE (2) Now If I were a dualist and a Christian I would argue that either split personality disorder (or whatever we are examining) doesn't actually exist, or the person who actually does have this kind of disorder actually has two souls. Both seem dubious to me, but that is because science seems to be vindicating that these case are real, and dualism is quite inconsistent with reality, as this hypothetical is probably trying to ultimately get at.

[@glorytogodfellowship5242]

Only because the two hemispheres have different opinions does not mean that there are two personalities in this person. We ourselves have often two voices in our head and often argue with our selves. This man's brain does this now separately. So what? All said is speculative and stay on that level.

[@goaliedude32]

I like this comment here because it brings about very good points that theists should take into consideration. God generally is understood as an absolute mind and currently we have no reason to believe one exists. The theistic gods we have today make very very specific claims that are unsupported by evidence. So the very specific theistic claims are EXACTLY as probable as the FSM but the FSM is not as probable as a general higher being who's traits we can define after we have observed it.

[@namesameasu]

Objects BEHAVE neccessarily according to the laws of physics in this universe." That's not necessary either. Because if you accept the possiblity of a Big Crunch or Bounce, then you accept that someday objects may behave differently at one point, leading to these outcomes. "I still wait for your favourite version of the KCA" If we disagree on fundamentals, it's a waste of time to argue over specifics. First there has to be _some_ agreement.

[@oliverutriainen2837]

There's no difference between the right and left hemnisphere. If a person believes in god, and you remove half of it's brain, the person still believes in god. If the person doesn't believe in god, and you remove half of it's brain, it won't change anything, it still is the same as before. The people that pointed to yes and no, chose what their pre-inquired beliefs were. I don't know if it could be this way but what if..

[@gastarbeiter1]

Yeah. I told him to read damasio once. he just said its too expensive...What does it cost?10 bucks?he is not interested in what we currently know about the brain so that he can preserve is precious little hypothesis.

[@francoismorin8721]

I love this! LOL Great! It will definitely spark a lot of interrogations on my part.

[@islamastrolojisi]

+François Morin Left Brain LA İLAHE means There are no Gods. Right Brain İLLA ALLAH ( But The God). This is the answer. LA İLAHE İLLA ALLAH is From Koran...

[@Angelmou]

+Ayhan „Ayhan Özcimbit“ Ozcimbit Muhammed and Allah (Qur'an) can also be wiped from your mind with the influence of brain function aka and the memories as well as you can see in demetia of "former" muslims. So what are you talkling about? That is not how the brain works. Again you are repeating your confusion about the working of the left brain (math, analyses) with right brain (emotions, poetry, music and sexual satisfaction and also emotional porn like god believe) The correct conclusion is that god believe is similar to any body satisfaction - hedonistic satisfaction, And that explains, why people can get orgasm by jesus: /watch?v=BMgd6T5OTvs (youtube link) and "emotional porn" by god: /watch?v=nSqJ-7tg0Eo (youtube link) God as a specific way/ alike of "emotional porn" structure. Nothing that supports any religion at all.

[@1simonmatthews]

What is "the experiencer"? Take away all my memories and I am left with just me, the experiencer. I can still see and feel, even though I won't remember who I was. What produces this "experiencer of life"? Is it the brain? If so, then if you cloned my brain, I should be able to experience life from the point of view of that brain, a bit like being reborn. But this is not the case in cloning, instead a new, separate experiencer emerges. So what makes the experiencer?

[@brightpotato5777]

The right hemisphere processes emotions, the left processes logic.

[@Xshado2]

@wimsweden What I mean by "Not religious" is that I don't take everything literally word for word and don't follow it word for word... Secondly, if you bother to try and read the Quran, you would see that even though it was written some time in the past, it holds scientific realities that were only discovered to date, like the fact that the salty water and sweet water do not mix, like the fact that the earth is not flat or spherical, but oval (egg) shaped... You'd be surprised at the science.

[@gastarbeiter1]

So your favoured version of the KCA is?Or have you come to the conclusion that it is really as weak as many say it is?

[@gastarbeiter1]

"You can map where certain thoughts and emotions manifest, but my specific question to you is this: Where in the mapped-area of the brain does consciousness _originate?_" Do you have any evidence that there is a difference?

[@gastarbeiter1]

by the way, I still wait for your favourite version of the KCA...

[@nouda6567]

How does this work? Can someone explain?

[@gastarbeiter1]

cya. Yes the causation it refers is about the labels we give to certain arrangements of particles.So the universe beginning to exist(from nothing?) is of different quality and therefore the KCA is flawed.

[@1philosophia]

He just mixed them up... he said the right hemisphere answered yes to believing in God and the left answered no... then he said so we have the right hemisphere who is an atheist and the left who is the theist.... so he just confused what he meant to say