With the anime recently reaching this scene, I thought that it'd be a good idea to go over every hint that Oda wrote regarding Kanjuro's inevitable betrayal. Follow me on Twitter: / soulstormop
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@jonh3873 жыл бұрын
In Dressrosa Kinnemon found Kanjuro in trash, cause he is trash. A very subtle hint who would've known.
@retiredpatch3 жыл бұрын
😂
@spice33283 жыл бұрын
Damn nice detail probably would've never noticed it lol
@pidgey37343 жыл бұрын
lmao "he is trash"
@esdrastshiala_kabangu49443 жыл бұрын
Pfff 😂
@MarkzBaui263 жыл бұрын
Perfect description for that clown who shouldve been stabbed to death by all scabbards in front of odens grave
@hansnase3643 жыл бұрын
There is a detail about the numbers of troups during the end of Act 2. I don't remember exactly how it went, but Kinemon said in the presence of Kanjuro that they had gathered 4000 men. Later on, when Kanjuro was gone, Kinemon updated the number to 4200. Yet, a bit later we see Orochi talking about how his enemy has gathered 4000 men, showing that his information was outdated and he only knew what Kanjuro knew.
@roikellner4143 жыл бұрын
Denjiro addresses this when he reveals his true identity, giving full credit to Kin's "brilliance"
@jackhanver14203 жыл бұрын
As a manga reader I told anime only that the traitor was Con D. oriano before it was actually revealed
@bilfa983 жыл бұрын
@@jackhanver1420 ok, but who asked?
@hansnase3643 жыл бұрын
@@bilfa98 Me, I wrote him a PM. Jack, thank you for replying, much appretiated!
@MarkzBaui263 жыл бұрын
@@bilfa98 everyone asks about the great con D oriano hes the only one that can rival go D ussop are you living under a rock
@franconicolas39953 жыл бұрын
When he made the ladder in Dressrosa and helped out the enemy, we thought it was a gag.
@Legionbass193 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I still love the stupid “gags” of his through Dressrosa and Zou. Oda’s comedy is just too powerful for me.
@franconicolas39953 жыл бұрын
@@Legionbass19 I'm a sucker for his gags. I still laugh hard at Brook's skull jokes even 600 chapters later
@devinnall22843 жыл бұрын
Even though he's a complete psychopath and a traitor he's alright with me if for no other reason than the fact that he created the legend that is Ryunosuke😭!!!
@jpnievera3 жыл бұрын
What episode is that please
@franconicolas39953 жыл бұрын
@@jpnievera I don't know. Mid to late Dressrosa. Around the time Usopp unlocked observation haki, maybe a bit earlier
@skyh3r0es3 жыл бұрын
giving him a bad artist background that cant draw while having a power to make his drawing alive as a joke while foreshadowing a betrayal is 200 IQ
@CarlosRIOS7772 жыл бұрын
100%!!!!! I am still shocked by that!
@serily4524 Жыл бұрын
Evil does not equal intelligence
@axelfaiz86427 ай бұрын
@@serily4524You do realize the 200 IQ part is meant for Oda, right?
@akaJRob7 ай бұрын
In dub I loved how Kinemon had pointed that out while he was processing the betrayal, he was mid thought and said wait a minute that’s a perfectly drawn dove you’re flying on right now 🤣 he was like but YOU SUCK how can this be😭
@demontiming32346 ай бұрын
No tf it’s not. A toddler could come up with that. You One Piece fans are so easily pleased like toddlers
@NarutoUzumaki-yp6vj3 жыл бұрын
A very important hint is given when the SHs climb the elephant (zou) kanjuro drew a pink dragon(ryunosuke) to climb up (a whole episode was dedicated to that lmao) after going further in the story you'd realize no true Vassal of Kozuki Oden would ever draw a dragon that's how much they hate the creature. Kinemon sliced up a dragon in Punk Hazard not only for survival but hatred as well. He also expresses his disappointment when Kanjuro drew a dragon of all things to top it off it was pink in colour as if to mock Momonosuke.
@Maria-mk3uj3 жыл бұрын
Oh god fuck that… man that “as if to mock Momonosuke” feels so real. The disrespect feels so real. It’s making me hate Kanjuro even more.
@pokemasterjerry3 жыл бұрын
@@Maria-mk3uj just wait… the pink dragon will be the symbol of peace and power in Wano!🙌🏾
@geekbro62653 жыл бұрын
He straight up drew those things in pain on purpose kanjuro is sadistic
@giacomomiceli84293 жыл бұрын
Plus by drawing a dragon, which obviously can't fly, he slowed down Luffy and the others by a day. Allowing Jack to arrive on time.
@trla65053 жыл бұрын
The fact that hi is actually a really God artist but just makes this basic level draws
@candyxxv58342 жыл бұрын
Love how you worded the title to avoid spoilers. Wish everyone was more like this. Would've definitely been able to enjoy marineford a lot more.
@sqeekeezthehamster1116 Жыл бұрын
Yep. People don't care and put spoilers in titles and thumbnails. The amount of things I wouldn't be spoiled on if people didn't do that
@danang5Ай бұрын
i mean even the episode name and chapter name spoil that arc lol
@CluelessCarter3 жыл бұрын
when they went to the bathhouse in wano, kanjuro specifically asked robin what she learned from orochi, and she basically said all she knew (which was a lot.). Kanjuro was very shocked. Also he never said what he learned to the others. Afterwards a few minutes later hawkins shows up to get the straw hats. Hawkins somehow knew the straw hats would be there and its because of kanjuro. He was told the meeting would be in the bathhouse by the straw hats and decided to let hawkins know.
@CaloyEdits3 жыл бұрын
putanginamoXikawplayan
@aigeee3 жыл бұрын
mhm
@megasean30003 жыл бұрын
It wouldn’t be weird if they sent regular Oniwabanshu or samurai to check the ankle tattoos, but the fact they sent Hawkins and Drake to do it, so they can easily recognise Nami and Robin is immediately suspicious.
@vitalmorvan9776 ай бұрын
True man
@a1piece3 жыл бұрын
That ch 920 spy bird reveal is honestly god tier nuancing. Probly would’ve never noticed if not for this vid
@asianpersuasion49013 жыл бұрын
you would be surprised how observant people are. like, the other foreshadowing, you can only assume and it will be proven once confirmed, but those birds (if you notice) are undeniable proof that kanjuro was the traitor. and people sure did notice it.
@johng40443 жыл бұрын
Sadly, they couldn't carry that into the anime because it would've been too obvious
@a1piece3 жыл бұрын
@@johng4044 lol no my guy it’s in the anime, it’s a subtle scene that makes you believe two random birds are just flying around setting the scene for Wano but that plot reveal
@asianpersuasion49013 жыл бұрын
@@johng4044 ?? did you watch the anime? they showed it bro
@seongthongchuah83563 жыл бұрын
@@a1piece which episode it is already? I wanted to see it now, not because I don't believe it, just wanted to know how stupid am I to not remember that
@nick_galfi93123 жыл бұрын
During the “Raizo-dono is safe!!” reveal, Kanjuro is the only one clenching his fist. When you look at all the characters in the scene and their hands arent clenched at all, it was almost like it was deliberate hmmmm
@vaibhav11803 жыл бұрын
Manga chapter no? Anime Episode no?
@rdblocks54903 жыл бұрын
@@vaibhav1180 kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4SbfXeCqr2hrqs here
@vaibhav11803 жыл бұрын
@@rdblocks5490 man can you also give the timestamp?
@anomalous. Жыл бұрын
@@vaibhav1180 im a year late but its chapter 816 lol
@ThatBugBehindYou10 ай бұрын
The fact that Kinnemon says Kanjuro's drawn food always gives him stomach aches, and Kanjuro's first move seeing Kinnemon saving him in a tense situation was to offer him said drawn food.
@wo0o0o972 жыл бұрын
You missed the biggest clue lol, his character design is literally that of a Kabuki ACTOR. He was acting out a character that is part of and supporting the Kozuki family and concealed his real identity, just like an actor's job. Such a big one.
@BladeStars412 жыл бұрын
How is this not upvoted more??? I googled it and immediately got something that looks exactly like Kanjuro!! Well caught!
@stan523232 жыл бұрын
@@BladeStars41 this aint reddit
@BladeStars412 жыл бұрын
@@stan52323 thank you for wasting my time with your comment
@axionlightedge61082 жыл бұрын
@@BladeStars41 Given how long responses take you can make the time
@amineouerdani8692 Жыл бұрын
the whole wano arc was about having a double personnality and a mask , not just about kanjuro , it's also implied to denjiro , yamato , hyori
@KingJH05103 жыл бұрын
The right hand one is just so fucking genius i cant Oda truly is a legend and one piece will forever be one of the best written pieces of work to ever exist
@idisseddemonslayermugentra29622 жыл бұрын
*cough* HxH *cough* HxH
@adri71312 жыл бұрын
@@idisseddemonslayermugentra2962 OnePiece is better
@idisseddemonslayermugentra29622 жыл бұрын
@@adri7131 I love one piece, but it's not the best HxH got more depth in its story, takes less episode to build up its story While one piece's world building, and the amount of details Oda put in the story is superior HxH is just different, Gon's development alone would obliterate the strawhat crew as a character
@DEEZNUTZ-gm8sy2 жыл бұрын
@@idisseddemonslayermugentra2962 ok hiatus x hiatus Man
@idisseddemonslayermugentra29622 жыл бұрын
@@DEEZNUTZ-gm8sy just accept it, one piece is not the greatest
@christianryanfisher3 жыл бұрын
The number of times he sabotaged their team “by accident” He led Dressrosa pursuers to the king’s plateau with a “although unstable” ladder to the top. He blinded Kinemon on the climb on to Zou and caused him to fall all the way down and “almost” knocked off the rest had they not dodged.
@kaukevin63322 жыл бұрын
Lmao valorant reference: Kanjuro is Bottom frag
@itsjustdarius6072 жыл бұрын
It was actually a monkey that caused them to fall
@MainGoldDragon21 күн бұрын
listen. one piece is a comedy show. gags like this happen all the time
@christianryanfisher20 күн бұрын
@@MainGoldDragon I know how to spot shady behavior. It’s also how I knew who the most recent traitor was, even with how little screen time they had. Too many “coincidences” lined up. 🤷♂️
@MainGoldDragon20 күн бұрын
@@christianryanfisher sure thing buddy
@starwizzyy3 жыл бұрын
Never underestimate gags in one piece, I should know, sanji almost died
@vaishaliagrawal31733 жыл бұрын
What, how, when?
@suga_isbae47043 жыл бұрын
vaishali agrawal during fishman island when he got a nose bleed and nearly died
@ebon53573 жыл бұрын
@@vaishaliagrawal3173 nosebleed from seeing mermaids after being on Ivankovs island for 2 years
@infinitygauntlet1012 жыл бұрын
Remember when Sanji complains about Absalom having invisibility fruit ? Well look what he has now.
@tophatwearingdoodle2 ай бұрын
Bringing this back to remind you guys of how Sanji completely FAILED to fight Kalifa of CP9
@aliciaechodumont28083 жыл бұрын
“You thought it was a mink, but it was me, Kanjuro”
@metheguywhoasked3 жыл бұрын
Kono kanjuro da! Other version : Zura janai, Kanjuro da!
@rul92713 жыл бұрын
@@metheguywhoasked lmao
@YeprilesteR6 ай бұрын
@@metheguywhoaskedLOL that Gintama phrase I always remember
@yourpapa6972 ай бұрын
i thought it was raizo tbh
@SlimeFanBoi3 жыл бұрын
So do y'all think when Oda drew Kanjuro's bad drawings did he..... also use his left hand!
@niggussimmals96493 жыл бұрын
Do yall think when God was creating Eichiro Oda he used his Left Hand?
@med58983 жыл бұрын
@@niggussimmals9649 are you saying he’s ugly or something
@niggussimmals96493 жыл бұрын
@@med5898 nah I am saying that god may be left handed becouse Oda is the Perfect Creation
@sambros22 жыл бұрын
@@niggussimmals9649 Left hand is the best hand
@niggussimmals96492 жыл бұрын
@@sambros2 as a member of the left handed squad I will humbly agree with the fact that we are a superior race.
@RedFoxCloud2 жыл бұрын
Another cool foreshadowing When Oden was traveling across Wano, he was (unknowingly) recruiting the members of the Akazaya Nine. And their actions when they first meet Oden are interesting: -Kin'emon and Denjiro tagged along because they admired Oden -Izo and Kiku joined because they were hungry lol -Kawamatsu, Dogstorm, and Cat Viper joined because Oden had saved them from the humans on Kuri Beach -Raizo joined because he wanted to better himself through Oden and leave his dark past behind him -Ashura joined because he had honorably lost a duel to Oden. Ashura never sought out to fight Oden, he had just waited for Oden to come onto his turf and tried to protect it. The thing is Kanjuro is the ONLY member to have acted out of pure malice the first time meeting Oden, saying that he thought "they were dead bodies" trying to collect their hair by trying to kill them.
@OgerponIsACutie Жыл бұрын
Well it was rumored that there was someone cutting hair from people in the area so it didn't seem like he was going to kill them to Oden
@latsiruk3 жыл бұрын
He really is sus when they are climbing at zou, traitors everywheree
@xReisk3 жыл бұрын
My first thought about him being out of place was his introduction at Dressrosa. The guy acted like Kinemon was a complete stranger and was kinda disappointed for meeting him again. I didnt think he was a traitor, but that scene really stick with me.
@benakinnusi2518 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!!! ALSO ep 694 usopp says to “kanjuro” and kinemon: “YOUR FRIEND DISAPPEARS AMD YOU WONT EVEN KNOW IT!!” When describing sugar’s ability to them. And then kinemon says to usopp: “yeah that would send chills down my spine” while kanjuro is standing there looking SUSPECT AS ALL HELL
@sansukanaka3 жыл бұрын
A while ago when it was first hinted that there was a traitor on the comments of crunchyroll a "manga reader " spoiled that Raizou was the traitor, i was so pissed and every time they mentioned a traitor i got salty at Raizou and the op of the comment. I still got my plot twist. i guess, cuz it was a troll comment and it wasn't Raizou.
@asianpersuasion49013 жыл бұрын
yeah, the 3 main traitor theories were raizo, kanjuro, and carrot. so he got you pretty good with the lie, since even raizo had some moments that made him being the traitor seem plausible.
@seongthongchuah83563 жыл бұрын
@@asianpersuasion4901 I knew Raizo is not when he helped Luffy a lot aat the jail, also carrot, just why do people think it's her?
@nuredingeziqi6793 жыл бұрын
@@seongthongchuah8356 nobody actually believed it, but in one of the volume updates (like, when Oda has some things fixed for the VOlume released. For example, Katakuri was said to have a Logia, but in the volume Jimbei said it was a "special paramecia"), the pannel in which we saw Oden castle burning during act 1 with the Calamities in the background (they weren't really there, but it was shown as to say that Kaido and his forces were behind it), it was updated and there was something like a 4th figure which resembled Carrot, or a bunny mink. People were super confused, but they had to make sense of it
@asianpersuasion49013 жыл бұрын
@@seongthongchuah8356 well for raizo it was assumed that he had a vivre card on his person that let jack follow him to zou, and other minor stuff. as for carrot, I don't exactly remember, there was a LOT of headcanon for that one, like, her parents were forced to work for the beast pirates or something like that. there is also the factor that some people didn't like carrot, and it was also kinda weird that a random character from zou joined the straw hats in their adventures.
@cibongpokemontrainer40403 жыл бұрын
@@asianpersuasion4901 haha i dont think its weird that some random mink character joined the strawhat considering their captain just ask a zombie he just met to be his crew. And a f skeleton just literally there being part of the shp
@RikXtreme43 жыл бұрын
I only suspected when he "comically" covered Kinemons eyes when they were climbing zunisha.. I was like "wtf..why is he doing this"
@adamkelsey59003 жыл бұрын
Yes yes yes that is what my comment qas about brother thankyou!
@ugoagamu28883 жыл бұрын
what do you mean?
@SevensMarkedSeven3 жыл бұрын
@@ugoagamu2888 ikr
@culturedvulture20153 жыл бұрын
Oh I know you.
@shirounshiroun75553 жыл бұрын
@@ugoagamu2888 when they ride the pink drawn dragon to climb the elephant on their way to zo, a monkey is falling down and is about to hit luffy&cie. most of them dodge but kanjuro "comically" puts his hands on kin's eyes, preventing him from dodging
@vxxiii41603 жыл бұрын
This legit can be one of the top 10 anime betrayals. The buildup to the reveal really paid off.
@danielcohen43553 жыл бұрын
Kanjuro was also at the right places conveniently at the right time: -He was there to hear Yasuie say that he will join the resistance. (Along with straw hats and shinobu) , moments later Yasuie is found out, captured and sentenced to death. -… not only that but during that scene where Law was arguing with Shinobu, Kanjuro stops the debate , Law says he will release his crew himself. Then when he does , Hawkins is there saying “I knew you’d be here” - ALSO , he was in the hot springs with straw hats and shinobu. Suddenly Hawkins and Drake appear to capture them. They all fly away and escape , except Kanjuro, we kind of forgot he was even there tbh, but he survived somehow I guess. -
@babydropkickerpro4318 Жыл бұрын
Oda really made Ryonusoke the most adorable DRAGON ever just to make us overlook the samurai's hatred for Dragons 😂
@sonwabileantonie98253 жыл бұрын
It always hit me as strange that when they found Kanjuro in the trash, Kin was crying his eyes out while Kanjuro was calm af but never did I think its cos he genuinely did not care
@saljpal33 жыл бұрын
I knew early on the rat was Kanjuro considering he was the only scabbard without a backstory and the Beast pirates knew Raizo was the only scabbard on Zou.
@supman493 жыл бұрын
Why you lyin?
@Hamzah_083 жыл бұрын
@@supman49 aly
@truffle60823 жыл бұрын
He did have one lol
@Maartun3 жыл бұрын
@@truffle6082 yeah exactly, he had a backstory. Oden sama sliced him up and he begged for mercy.
@saljpal33 жыл бұрын
@@truffle6082 After he was outed as a rat, before that we only saw him as one of the scabbards.
@akibahmed19563 жыл бұрын
Wait, Kanjuro was a spy of Orochi. Even Kaido didn't know who the spy was, let alone Doffy!
@CarmsCelestia3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's most likely that the Doffy-things were coincidence. He didn't do much harm, was no leading figure, he more or less just disappeared.
@Serminator303 жыл бұрын
@@CarmsCelestia It can still be possible, that Orochi could inform Doffy, especially when Kanjuro's Role could be important on Spying Law's Plan's.
@kristol5693 жыл бұрын
@@Serminator30 Orochi doesn't have anything to do with Wano's external policy, so he probably doesn't even know who Doffy was
@umimi42783 жыл бұрын
@@kristol569 I think he knew who was Doffy but doesn't care at all about him (I mean, he doesn't have any special interaction with him). Kaido and Orochi met each other 20 years ago, and there is the festival at Onigashima each year. Maybe Doffy went to Onigashima during this event and met Orochi, but yes, it doesn't seem that they worked together
@MechaStorm73 жыл бұрын
@@Serminator30 not sure about that, considering he jumped 20 years into the future into a world he doesn't even know about (wano's borders are closed etc)
@wadoichimonji13733 жыл бұрын
You can also tell on his characted design, he looks like a kabuki actor
@luffy-taro44973 жыл бұрын
fr XD
@ebon53573 жыл бұрын
Is he not a kabuki actor?
@YeprilesteR6 ай бұрын
@@ebon5357Kind of a failed now evil one
@dandremiller11073 жыл бұрын
During the episode when Oden fought Kiado, kanjuro wasnt shown in any scene until the fight was over, but everyone else was. He was only shown first in that whole episode in the prison cell supposedly "injured" when everyone was captured.
@spice33283 жыл бұрын
He actually was shown for a second or two, I remember it. He was swinging his brush against the enemies.
@dandremiller11073 жыл бұрын
@@spice3328 oh well i probably missed that but everyone else had wayy more screen time than he did. Even kiados random foot soldiers got more screen time than him during that fight
@beso92j.863 жыл бұрын
@@spice3328 It was shown that he is using his brush, but not on enemies, just Kanjuro swinging his brush, no enemies in that scene.
@Shadowmoneywizard3 жыл бұрын
@@beso92j.86 i noticed that too crazy
@hafizjihad862 жыл бұрын
the beast pirates don't know him at all, they they intend to kill him in that battle. Kanjuro learned the way of samurai to become a worthy retainer so he's strong enough to defend himself
@AMVAnimaI3 жыл бұрын
that left-hand right-hand fact blew my mind. That's so subtle, but a clear hint in retrospect
@dragonloli79383 жыл бұрын
Kanjuro already tried killing Oden during their first meeting, before being recruited. Joining Oden is probably Kanjuro's Plan B when his ambush will fail.
@vinsa.36343 жыл бұрын
Oda was just built different
@JayMason123 жыл бұрын
When Ussop saw Kanjuro fly up towards the top of Dressrosa he got scared to death lol. Ussop knew from the start. Also while climbing Zou, Law and Robin catch him out as Kanjuro makes out that the minks are hostile towards humans.
@YeprilesteR6 ай бұрын
Usopp gets scared of everything LOL
@saquoiafighter3 жыл бұрын
2:55 About the Bounty segment, IIRC (it has been a while since I last watched the Dressrosa arc), Kanjuro's lack of bounty is more due to him not engaging against Doflamingo's forces throughout the arc, which would tie it more closely with the Productivity aspect (3:25). Doflamingo's reason for the bounties was "against those who have angered me today."
@guigui88183 жыл бұрын
In the scene where Orochi talks to the spy after killing the murderers of his parents, there is a devil fruit before him, so it has eliminated every akaza but Kin'emon and Kanjuro. Then either Kin'emon got the Oscar for best acting ever since his first meeting with Oden, or it was Kanjuro, met as a "hair-thief" in the middle of nowhere
@silver_014307 ай бұрын
Very late reply, but actually Raizo and Shinobu both have Df
@a-ash6663 ай бұрын
@@silver_01430 Yes, but it narrowed down to only devil fruit users.
@leoashura80863 жыл бұрын
Kanjuro not having a bounty at that time wasn't Sus, because we could just say "Doflamingo probably thinks he is still in prison"
@ReturnOfGodEnel3 жыл бұрын
Why would it even be suspicious? WG decides bounties 😂
@BlueBlazeKing3 жыл бұрын
Well Kanjiro didn’t really do anything at that point of I recalled, so Doffy didn’t bother
@anishray74013 жыл бұрын
Kanjuro was probably is the most worthless and repulsive character in one peice. Despite all the things Kozuki Oden had done for him, despite all the sacrifices he had made for his retainers and for him he still couldn't rise above his hate. He just couldn't get over the whole "I was persecuted" thing. His selfishness and hate destroyed an entire country and killed thousands of people.
@tonionio3 жыл бұрын
Get over the whole persecution thing? Bro? His family was slaughtered for something they werent even involved with. Like i hate kanjuro but on a real the dude had a reason to hate
@anishray74013 жыл бұрын
@@tonionio are you serious? It's ridiculous you are actually trying to support him. Yes he was supposed to get over the whole "I was persecuted" thing. You know why? Because his blind hate DESTROYED an entire country, killed families and little children, bought a new Shogun to power who transformed a flourishing country into a disease filled, dying place. What had those innocent children and families got to do with his persecution? Go watch the show again property. Orochi had mentioned that a specific group in Wano had hunted Koruzumis. But he and his fake stooge felt that an entire country had to rot in hell for decades, normal people had to be turned into slaves, children had to suffer from hunger and disease just for their satisfaction. Who the f**** are they to decide that? And I don't understand what's wrong with people in the world these days. "He had a reason to hate" -have you lost your marbles dude? I don't know why so many people feel that anything and everything is fair as long as there an "I was persecuted " excuse. Blind revenge achieves nothing. Had Kozuki Oden asked Kanjuro's family name when he allowed Kanjuro to follow him? Had Yasuie asked his family name before giving him education, training and money which made him who he was? He was just same crazy scalp stealing maniac before that. Oden actually held that stupid ass on his shoulders while he boilt to death and his true 'boss' laughed. He supported a man who purposely destroyed his country while enjoying with hookers. Yes that asshole was supposed to get over his hate and bitterness. He had more that enough reason for that. He CHOSE not to. If even after this you feel that "Dude had a right to hate" then you need to get yourself checked.
@redhairedgodlybeast31433 жыл бұрын
@@tonionio yes because your family gets killed now you take part in killing thousands of people and killing even more families THAT WERENT INVOLVED WITH ANYTHING just because thats what kanjuro deems justice.
@TubemastaC3 жыл бұрын
@@anishray7401 You… don’t just get over a childhood of torture and having everyone you love slaughtered for no reason…. The whole persecution thing… Also if a country is allowing its citizens to go through that (for generations), then does said country deserve to exist? The top ppl all knew it was happening. Him and Orochi are anarchists. They at least had a personal reason for what they did. Kaido didn’t. He just subjugated a country for his own convenience It’s like Arlong. Arlong could’ve been enslaved, and he had every right to hate humans as they treated him like dirt. Just look at all the racist stuff the SHs said to him. Should he have terrorized a few villages in the EB? Probably not. But also, mans was kinda right to inflict that same punishment back. We punish murderers with the death sentence
@josiahbaumgartner76433 жыл бұрын
@@anishray7401 his past doesn't justify his actions but you can totally understand why hed be mad at them and not just "get over it"
@VINSMOKEProductions3 жыл бұрын
Great video, Soulstorm. Keep up the good work, pal.
@lonnieholmes97233 жыл бұрын
Oda continues to prove he’s the greatest writer of our generation
@avivshvitzky24593 жыл бұрын
One of the best in history
@joepjansen52663 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for this video I thought there were no signs of his betrail except for that Jack knew about Zou but that could be anyone of the samurai but you made it very clear that Oda was foreshadowing it since dressrosa
@BlackTGambit3 жыл бұрын
I remember while re watching one Piece when they met up with Ninja (forgot his name) and were discussing how Momo is their Lord Kanjuro looks away sorta like in a “he’s not my lord…” it was really interesting to see that in the animation and there’s some other times he seems shady but that could just be because I know he’s a traitor now
@fifo55533 жыл бұрын
Ok but the thumbnail and title means that innocent one piece fans not up to this bit yet are going to be absolutely blasted, especially if it hits the algorithm.
@MonkBreath3 жыл бұрын
If you aren't up to date on a anime/manga and start watching videos about it you have to expect to have some stuff spoiled. As long as youtubers keep manga spoilers out of thumbnail/title for anime only watchers they are completely fine imho
@fifo55533 жыл бұрын
@@MonkBreath that's my point, the spoilers are in the thumbnail and title.
@MonkBreath3 жыл бұрын
@@fifo5553 How so? The anime has already revealed Kanjuro a few weeks ago and that's the only thing in the title/thumbnail
@kenyamaz58353 жыл бұрын
@@MonkBreath People that arent on ep 970+ will see "Kanjuro's Betrayal" and see the sinister smile,
@fifo55533 жыл бұрын
@@MonkBreath believe it or not, not every one piece fan is up to date with the anime. In fact, being up to the late 900s may even be the exception. All of those people scrolling through are going to be spoiled for what was meant to be a plot twist reveal.
@Billalabdullahi3 жыл бұрын
one about his character is oden found him stealing from dead corpse's as a child that shoulda been a huge red flag tbh
@hibitsu24363 жыл бұрын
His very own look is foreshadowing itself xD Like, you guys know the Japanese theater where actors put heavy make ups for the show? That's what he looks like to me now :>
@BlueBlazeKing3 жыл бұрын
Yeah he was designed to look like a kabuki actor
@jdrzga3 жыл бұрын
Who's been messing up everything? It's been Kanjuro all along
@crazydauzy88873 жыл бұрын
nice reference there .. that song would fit here perfectly
@lelouchvibritannia19193 жыл бұрын
if m not wrong its a wanda vision reference on that song that blew up?
@wuttflea3 жыл бұрын
When i found out he was the traitor, i was just lowkey kinda glad my suspicions were correct. I thought it was a bit sus during the Dressrosa arc when they were on the plateau thingy. Kanjuro kept saying that because he was such a failure or something, he should commit seppuku. my intuition told me it had a weird vibe to it
@DionysiosC3 жыл бұрын
The very fact we knew about him should have been the first clue. Doflamingo turns his prisoners into toys causing everyone of to forget their existence. He should have done that to Kanjuro and take him out of the picture as well as get labour. If Kanjuro was not the traitor, that would have been his first cause of action.
@NarutoUzumaki-jg4pw3 жыл бұрын
I had a coworker/friend who watches OP. I don't like to spoil, but one day he asked me who the traitor was at the end of our shift. After asking if he really wanted to know, he sounded uncertain at first but then said yes bro please tell me. I told him it was Okiku then left for the day LMAOOOO, there's nothing better than giving a FALSE spoiler. It made the moment that much more of a shock.
@afiqputra90763 жыл бұрын
I always find Kanjuro calm demeanor despite losing contact with his fellow comrades is off back in Dressrosa but I just brush it off and just accept that it is just his personality. But the most telling sign is that he always try to sabotage them getting to Zou
@theultimatetempest19183 жыл бұрын
Heh, "brush" it off. Yea, him just sitting there without any willingness to escape on his own with his ability was a flag, especially when he's not wearing seastone cuffs.
@sidezerk97903 жыл бұрын
i mean between all the akazaya members Kanjiro was the only one following Oden for a dump reason the others followed because they admired him but he followed because he wanted to make a brush from Oden's hair! really!?
@noxanguis81303 жыл бұрын
watching this video I just realized that there was a considerable time put into this character. Especially the left hand right hand drawing difference made me realize how much depth this char has.
@dinksreact68753 жыл бұрын
This proves that Oda is a genius writer.
@urineformation3 жыл бұрын
This was such a well researched and well compiled video. Awesome job
@connorjohnson85902 жыл бұрын
In Dresdarosa, Kanjuro made ladders for the group to climb up the mountain. However, moments later, the citizens trying to catch them started climbing the same ladder. He could have disolved the drawing way before the citizens started to climb, but conveniently forgot too. There was also the moment where Kanjuro blinded Kinemon when the monkey fell from Zou, causing them both to fall off the dragon they were riding. This could have ended very badly for Kinemon who we know is a fruit user. Looking back, it easily could have been an assasination attempt. We don't know exactly what happened after they fell, but both the sunny and Bart's ship were down there, so it could have been that they rescued them as they fell, causing the assasination on Kinemon to fail.
@black-ix9yy2 жыл бұрын
I never for a second believed he was such a bad artist. I wouldent have pegged any of em as the spy, but i absolutely didnt believe he drew so bad
@ayodenfan12383 жыл бұрын
Watching this and reading the comments make my heart sink. I just know how disappointed Oden would be or perhaps he'll actually still forgive Kanjuro because how tender his heart is. I respect Oden and the samurais and seeing them betrayed is really heart wrenching.
@jeffreymartinez44117 ай бұрын
Not to mention he was dressed as a stage performer, which was suspicious in the first place
@robinbrunelol3 жыл бұрын
Thx for putting it in the title so i had no chance to avoid this spoiler :)
@Cowardlydabbling3 жыл бұрын
His drawing of the wall and bars in the coliseum jail was way better that his usually art. no one knew he was there. Which surprised me when kin didn’t say anything about it.
@luffywillbecomethekingofpi22423 жыл бұрын
i got one, after that time when Luffy and the others depart to WCI, Inuarashi said something like 'you can't go to Zou without a vivre card' or something like that
@123melody Жыл бұрын
Everyone out here guessing the spy while I completely forgot abt that just until Kanjuro showed himself up… I’m really amazed and traumatized how he betrayed them from the beg, and after all that they’ve been through. He is a pure villain and have to say a perfect spy, with no remorse whatsoever up till his death.
@albertjunaidi8003 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly when kanjuro saved he is not in toy but in a person
@arthur94513 жыл бұрын
Facts but they say he managed to escape but how 🤔 look at the amount of executives
@albertjunaidi8003 жыл бұрын
@@arthur9451 yeah it so strange he still in dumb area when everybody into toys has been thrown away. And he can still in a person. Oda is GG
@Alexander-29563 жыл бұрын
@@arthur9451 Kaido needed him. Kaido commanded Doffy to get him the Samurais.
@quinfable58583 жыл бұрын
@@Alexander-2956 Kaido didn't know that kanjuro is a spy Lol. Kurozomi clan are the only ones who knows it
@przemysawkorzec50373 жыл бұрын
Supposing Oden had figured out that Kanjuro was a Kurozumi, he couldn’t have known Kanjuro’s true purpose. Just being a Kurozumi doesn’t make you a bad person.
@pantheman28426 ай бұрын
I think Tama is a Kurozumi, that proves your point.
@PaulStryker3 жыл бұрын
A more subtle one: When they were climbing into Zou, and the monkey guardian fell abobe them, he covered Kinemon's eyes so that he was unable to avoid him. There were some others, but can't remember right now. Thanks for the video!
@gydorack2 жыл бұрын
From what I remember. Orochimaru kept Kanjuro's identity pretty close to the chest. Even Kaido didn't know about him until close to the raid. I suspect that Doflamingo might have been told by Orochimaru or figured it out himself that Kanjuro was not to be harmed, but I'm not sure if Doflamingo ever knew the extent of Kanjuro's loyalty to Orochimaru
@NashiEmilie2 жыл бұрын
I don't think orochi would tell him but I could believe the opposite (kanjuro telling him + with specific info that he may could not have known otherwise)
@aryanthakur0904 Жыл бұрын
Orochimaru?😂😂😂😂
@Maria-mk3uj3 жыл бұрын
I got chills from those birds. I remember like last year people were as usual drawing assumptions/theories out of Oda’s cover pages and those birds were one of those. I forgot what they were making out of it but I’m very positive no one would’ve thought they were spies Kanjuro was using to leak info with. I’m lost between holding a grudge against Kanjuro and being astonished by Oda. I can’t believe what the minks, Zunesha, Inu, and Neko had to go through just because of this one mdfkng traitor. 😭
@Tyro13013 жыл бұрын
I got one! When the crew was trying to climb Zou, Everyone made it up fine, but the only ones who were not able to climb to top right away were Kinemon and Kanjuro.... This could be because Kanjuro didn't want Kin to reunite with the Minks and Raizo.
@wilprut3 жыл бұрын
one of the most important pieces is when he, kin and momo fell from the pink dragon in zou because he wanted to delay kin and momo so the minks at zou could see the SH as enemies and had a chance that they could kill each other
@HMRS3 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to quit putting spoilers in the title and thumbnail
@patrickk53483 жыл бұрын
Your title spoiled this twist for me. PSA: Don’t add spoilers to your titles.
@steelsnake32453 жыл бұрын
You too huh I was just going through my home page looking for music. And I had almost made it to wano without spoilers.
@LuisFelipe-oe3lv3 жыл бұрын
Dude, this is a year old + spoiler, don't blame on them, you are the slow ones
@UltimateTiger12003 жыл бұрын
yeah I saw this thumbnail when I just got to the zou arc and it honestly ruined the twist for me when I finally caught up
@skyh3r0es3 жыл бұрын
dang a foreshadowing that i just realize(and i never saw someone said it) is, when orochi told kaido about the traitor, orochi said that the traitor come from a theater group that was executed, and in japan, theres a theater art called "Kabuki" where all the artist use a white makeup on their whole face while they are acting on stage, from here you can connect the dot right, but oda only show this foreshadow only 1 or 2 chapter before they reveal that Kanjuro is a traitor (1 episode in anime), so that was a big hint especially for people who know about kabuki!!!
@JohnSmith-pv5ls3 жыл бұрын
The one I thought of was in Dressrosa, making a ladder for the former toys to hunt down those with bounties. Definitely suspicious
@MurasakiToshiko5 ай бұрын
What's most shocking to me watching this video is the fact that this episode was 2 years ago. I remember when I caught up to one piece and this was literally a new episode for me. Time flies so fast.
@krimxonpearce97946 ай бұрын
When they were named akazaya nine but when the flashback started they were originally 10, also his face and outfit has similarities with artists from kabuki and noh drama having white and heavy makeup while dressing up like someone who they've wanted to imitate. Now, that the outfit is done, Oda finally realizes what weapon kanjuro should bring, a brush. Which we thought as PAINT-BRUSH from the start, but it was really meant to be a MAKEUP-BRUSH to support kanjuro's character as an ancient japanese entertainer.
@jabbathehutt71963 жыл бұрын
The bounty one doesn't foreshadow anything he just wasn't important enough to get one and Rebecca was important
@MonkeyDLuffy-vs7eg2 жыл бұрын
There was one more detail in which oda foreshadowed that he is the traitor by showing his evil smile when all akazaya members were going to onigashima through a small boat. Don't know if anybody noticed that. 🤔
@michaelmurphy87362 жыл бұрын
I respect that you said the traitor rather than his name as not to spoil ppl
@jacoren57853 жыл бұрын
Annoys me that his betrayal was spoiled to me before I caught up. Luckily Kyoshiro's event wasn't spoiled for me.
@loftwild43023 жыл бұрын
Thank you not spoiling kyroshiro’s “event” to other people
@Dizin3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!! Gotta say at first I wasn't so keen on this plot twist, seemed a lil too forced especially in One Piece where things are commonly foreshadowed hundreds of episodes before. Glad to see once again Oda hinted it all along, I was just too naive to see lol
@peeper20703 жыл бұрын
I got spoiled heavy for this by Crunchyroll of all people. I was around Zou at the time so I looked for hints but the only real foreshadowing I caught was the birds being went to Orochi. Kanjuro asking Robin for information should have been an obvious one but I guess I was too distracted by Robin. As we all are.
@26aaz21 күн бұрын
the whole zou/wano arcs have some of the most emotionally impactful plot twists in anime - Raizo, Kanjuro, Oden & more
@amineouerdani8692 Жыл бұрын
even in the opening 22 , it shows all the akazaya looking forward except denjiro and kanjuro looking the opposite side behind , which shows that both were traitors , just one traitor to orochi and the other one traitor to oden and akazaya
@SushiSuxs3 жыл бұрын
Imagine not finishing one piece and seeing this in your recommendations
@Tateshi3 жыл бұрын
happend to me
@HMRS3 жыл бұрын
Happened to me
@nayank59423 жыл бұрын
In the pre skip fight between Kaido v Oden + Akazaya 9, at least in the anime, we see a scene of everyone fighting and defeating Kaido's subordinates except for Kanjuro. As if he wasn't fighting anyone at all
@benakinnusi2518 Жыл бұрын
Here is one more hint you missed, on episode 694, Usopp is explaining Sugar’s powers to Kinemon and Kanjuro and he says “i got chills when i realized robin got turned into a toy…your friend disappears and you wont even know it!” Kinemon responds nervously saying “yeah, i would get chills if that happened to my friend too” while kanjuro is just standing behind him…expressionless… Even earlier, when Kinemon first finds kanjuro, the way kinemon is so excited to see him, while kanjuro seems to just be responding according to what seems appropriate to not seem suspect. Oda is a genius.
@MichaelxVoorhees2 жыл бұрын
amazing point outs. looking back it makes so much sense.
@JustChadYT2 жыл бұрын
2 things that I havent seen pointed out: 1: If I remember correctly, everyone of the vassals cried when meeting again with either Momo or Kinemon (can”t remember which one), expect for Kanjuro. 2: In Dressrosa, when Usopp, Viola, and King Riku were hiding from the people trying to kill them, Kanjuro made a ladder for the enemy to climb, and it was played off as a joke, but was really him trying to stop them.
@Tehstool2 жыл бұрын
Did he or Usopp draw the Usopp used as ammunition after that moment?
@JustChadYT2 жыл бұрын
@@Tehstool Usopp drew the ammunition, he just made it real. My thinking is that he probably just thought that it wouldn't really matter so he didn't think much of it and made it.
@monke2783 жыл бұрын
I think Kanjuro covered Kinemon's eyes so that Luffy and Law will go ahead first and since the Minks hates Pirates ( because of what happened between Jack and the gang ) they'll have to kill each other on the top of Zou
@DamKaKaDaNi3 жыл бұрын
The bird giving orochi information. That's where I knew it.
@bloodredzangoose7 ай бұрын
I'm rewatching right now and I've been looking out for these. I also noticed in Dressrosa when he draws the fake Usopp for the bagworm shot, he does it not really understanding why Usopp wants it, then seems calm while Usopp preps his shot because he doesn't think there's any way he can make it, but when Usopp succeeds he looks not just surprised by horrified that he directly contributed to taking out one of Kaido's allies.
@bloodredzangoose7 ай бұрын
Also, he continually delays the SH's arrival at Zou, first drawing a climbing creature instead of flying when we know he can do that. Then he covers Kin's eyes to ensure they fall. Then he draws another climbing creature, and fakes the water susceptibility (we see later that his cranes are fine in the rain). Then he suggests they wait to try again til the morning as it's getting dark (why does this matter when you're climbing a featureless leg?) Finally he makes a third climbing creature and allows them to reach the top, assuming that by this point the SH will have fallen to the gas and Sheepshead's Gifters and perhaps being aware that Jack's arrival is imminent.
@kaidanstrong48263 жыл бұрын
In the manga when you see somebody’s eyes look to the right in means they’re a traitor.
@kleozane27813 жыл бұрын
shank's wanted poster be like
@donatszabo1413 жыл бұрын
If you think how they meet with oden, then ist very clear: raizo or kanjuro. Raizo do so many thing for the raid. So only one left
@timmythecat133 жыл бұрын
That right and left handed thing is really a nice observation. The detail in one piece really is amazing
@storysmith56263 жыл бұрын
In chapter 802 page 16 right before they gang r about to climb Zou Kanjuro states that Zou is home to a race of people that hate humans. Considering 2 members of this race were direct subordinates of his master Oden. AND he blindfolded Kin-San on the climb up and made the 2 of them fall, It sure seems like he was trying to force a conflict between the monks and the straw hats
@Meekiel-3 жыл бұрын
Of course I get spoiled by KZbin's algorithm :')
@HMRS3 жыл бұрын
Fr
@20editz363 жыл бұрын
for me I got spoiled by recommending this video 😑
@Bd.23 жыл бұрын
Another hint... He had a pink mullet and I friggin called it
@gomugomu37012 ай бұрын
the other akazaya trusted him so much, we didn't even notice he was traitor
@gmaster9943Ай бұрын
Fricking crazy that it has been 3 years
@jonn17203 жыл бұрын
Seriously? He holds a lettuce with his right hand and you’re saying that makes him right handed?
@heyoyo10gaming43 жыл бұрын
Well he is, for one thing, right handed, as evidenced by the quality of his drawings depending on what hand he uses, and he did eat that lettuce with his dominant hand... Could just be a coincidence but I could see Oda doing something like that intentionally
@afrizalaminuddin27173 жыл бұрын
Wellllllll akshually, with the most recent chapter after his betrayal he did drew well with his right hand. I'm not Sherlock, but that does made him right handed
@quinfable58583 жыл бұрын
When he fights he always uses his right hand to hold his paint brush weapon.
@bartek6143 жыл бұрын
I'm on a 779 ep and youtube recommended this video to me. Thanks for the spoilers youtube algorithm