Spooling a Daiwa Saltiga Dogfight 8000H with 51kg WFT Line

How much 51kg WFT KG Strong Line fits on a Daiwa Saltiga Dogfight 8000H? The key points we try to hit when spooling is have the line as tight as possible (so later a tight drag doesn't cut into the line that's sitting on the spool), and now a bit of electrical tape under the braid to stop slipping.
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[@galeysprimetime1115]

Never thought I'd watch two blokes fill a spool for twelve minutes and find it good to watch but there you go, just did it.

[@MorningTideFishing]

Haha stoked you liked it mate!

[@oversizerunescape]

Galey's Prime Time same 😂

[@guamsvideobygageignacio8293]

MorningTide Fishing what kind of knot do you use on your reel

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hi mate we just use a uni knot with a couple wraps so it's small, not expecting it to hold if got down to that point (would tighten up/grab the spool to try and pop the leader knot if getting so low).

[@guamsvideobygageignacio8293]

MorningTide Fishing hello big fan

[@David-in3sd]

I really wish who's left of the crew would still make videos like this..... miss these.

[@hookedwithmishchuk]

It's Friday and I'm watching two dudes spool a reel. And I'm not complaining it was a good watch

[@SPARTCUTE]

You are the only guys i can watch for 12mins spooling the reel and be totally into it!

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hahaha stoked you liked it mate!

[@SPARTCUTE]

Keep the awesome content coming

[@addidixon6185]

huss yeah same

[@renegadeangler2158]

I already watched all the videos on this channel but hell I'll watch em again!

[@stephenpfaff1116]

You guys just are the best! the best fishing channel on youtube, sick accents, great editing, and a awesome attitude, I love these guys!!

[@MorningTideFishing]

Haha Cheers Bro!

[@thatguyalex.2966]

these guys seem like genuine happy guys.

[@pplurasgado]

I f*cking love this channel guys. You're the best! Cheers from spain.

[@capt.nelsonsilva635]

Nice video! Amazing reel!! Congrats from Madeira Island!

[@deefa_damo]

Haha I agree with Galey (was the comment below), pretty entertaining 12 minutes for a couple of fishing-mad surfer blokes, good stuff.

[@jacemofo]

lads your channel is on a different level

[@elclubdelarapalajalisco5897]

You are the best, greetings from Mexico !

[@city2473]

You guys are an awesome team. I need to come get some lessons.

[@pa1264]

That's a nice combo awesome video lads.

[@darrylriley9917]

Good work boys next the monster GT!

[@fishin4dayz]

you guys deserve more subs

[@MorningTideFishing]

Cheers Mate!

[@michaelsibilia7405]

i just subbed

[@QuartzReaper]

You guys are awesome. Would love to go fishing with you someday.

[@brpitt7796]

I bloody hate spooling up, and yet I just watched 12 minutes of Briggsy and Cavvy spooling up - a year after they actually did it...

[@alexandruyanni]

man you shore use a lot of tension when you are spooling your reels!!! Stella doex X line wraps on the spool so maybe I don't have to do it that Xtreme :)))) Another great video!!

[@loucifer4225]

Dogfight in Daiwa that's some hardcore reel

[@troyjralph]

Cavy: the fishing line whisperer (counter).

[@BasicFishingNZ]

far out lol u guys should definitely go and target for giant tuna just like dennis did haha. seeing a giant spinning reel getting spooled with a heavy braid is just satisfying XD

[@aidanwerry7391]

You clowns had me LOLing on peak hour public transport. Looking like a crazy person.

[@johnstone8579]

Jiu-jitsu comment? Already a huge fan, but if you roll too than that is awesome! Keep the videos coming boys, love em!

[@MorningTideFishing]

I trained pretty hardcore for about a year and a half, got my blue and then fizzled out (still Psyched on it just need more time!). Cavy's won double gold at a couple comps and should really be close to purple by now but is still white because his attendance! If he did three months solid I think he'd get his blue but he's just got just gota lock into doing it.

[@johnstone8579]

Nice! I've been at it a little over 4 years, got my blue about 18 months ago. Should probs be further along, but been slack since I got my blue also. I still manage a couple classes a week. Anyway, that's badass, just another reason for me to love you guys. Oss!

[@FlowricalXP]

Been a fan from the first video. Never commented before. I live in NSW, new to fishing compared to most people...spent 21 hours a week for months fishing after work for my first two jewfish...man id love to just watch how you guys work lures in the water. So much to learn. Learning can never stop, you guys should do a new meet up, definitely would come for tips (and no, not asking the locations you fish) but how to work lures is something id love to learn. :)

[@MorningTideFishing]

Man I remember the years I spent cracking the Jewfish code, so many late night fishing and just freezing on the rocks haha. With meet ups and stuff like that we're prolly a ways off getting into that kinda thing, I think we might appear bigger than we actually are at the moment. Like we still all have to work our normal jobs and have sunk in a lot of $ into Morningtide trying to get it off the ground, time is not something we have a lot of juggling work/home/Morningtide. So we're still a couple years away from doing meet ups or taking fans on trips (this is something I want to do once we're big enough, I'm keen on making a series of YT film based around fans along with us). But basically once Morningtide is putting food on the table and we quit our day jobs then you'll start to see us doing cool fan events like meet ups etc. With working lures it matters but it's not everything, like the amount of times I've cast out and a Tuna's just exploded on my lure before I could even flip the bail arm! Or when there's bust ups you just flat out wind straight in and even if the lure's doing cartwheels you'll still hook up haha. I think how you work the lure and it's action plays a major role at times though (like if the fish are super shut down) and with certain lures that are tricky to work, but you can get away with a lot just by throwing a diver haha!

[@tacklecentralfishing1051]

51kg=112lbs.

[@hugotomatis]

Very good video!!

[@bearings8085]

you guys are amazing YEW

[@pathurimohan3046]

Watched the video. Very informative and good enjoyment one can derive. Sir may I know the perfect matching rod to this reel to fight the big game. Please reply

[@vanstaaler]

Love your videos, only wish there was more. Please tell us about that rod ! Ripple Fisher, sweet.

[@mdhalas]

you guys are living the dream. i have never done the kind of fishing yinz get to do and i wish i had the time and money to get into it. i do a lot of bass fishing in the states. i have to ask why you don’t back your braid with a bit of monofilament to keep the braid from slipping? around here, every spool i see that isn’t backed will slip. 100 percent. the tape seems like a good substitute.

[@2-xtreme424]

I have the same reel!! thinking of putting 39kg wft line. Great video guys!!

[@MorningTideFishing]

I just had the 39kg on there and it was a good balance between good casting and still being able to lock drag if needed. I think the 51kg is more of a psychological step up for the GT because I couldn't snap the 39kg by locking up, 51kg's a fair bit thicker though and maybe if the fish goes into some rock there's a better chance of landing him... But yeah prolly more for my confidence than anything!

[@2-xtreme424]

MorningTide Fishing yea for your type of fishing definitely 51kg is ideal. For me the 39kg should be perfect. Not much Xtreme fishing in florida like how you guys fish.

[@BPReefer]

Awesome. Whats the jig to tighten up the spool tension. Can you buy these anywhere?

[@EpsealonOfficial]

amazing movie 👏👏👏

[@coIey]

some nic spooling action there I use 50lb line let alone 50kg lol but here in the north east we mostly catch stripers, cod and bluefish but if you go offshore you can get some massive bluefins and dorado

[@Galvoflysoz]

How did you find this line? Ivegit the 10kg and the 22kg the 10kg kept falling apart and I lost 5 lures casting. Decided to throw it out

[@punishthewicked5845]

Hey boys you know it’s impossible to keep line in a spin reel without twist even if you have the twist free line installation tool or bench and install line side by side with a drill I just put the whole new line spool into a bucket of water get tension on line as I runs through guides and on to reel works pretty good but after a few fish there will be twists it the nature of a spinner so after each trip if you run the bare line out the back of the boat to clear the twist the tension should remove most twist okay bro’s hope this virus hasn’t got y’all down say hi to cav love the content of your vids I should have started a channel twenty years ago and thank you guys for showing me a few tricks we use dogfights here in Martha’s Vineyard and off Provincetown Mass. USA to sight cast to giant bluefin tuna I think with the right play you can bring in a freight train

[@MatthewRizzi]

You make awesome videos

[@daltonfishing8872]

I reckon you boys make more videos like this!!!!!!!

[@h2p59]

I’m planning to get a saltiga soon for a trip to hawaii...... Can tell me where you bought the wft line? I couldn’t find it anywhere online

[@slyarsenal]

Briggsy - I'm thinking of spooling my Dogfight with either 51kg WFT, 80 or 100lbs Tasline and Varivas PE10 SMP. How do you compare each line for casting and abrasion resistance? I'm curious how much line you got on the Dogfight with Tasline. Busted Fishing site states that I can get 400m with their PE10 line and 505m with their PE8. These figures contradict what their diameter states,, seeing that the Daiwa JBraid Grand is actually thinner but Daiwa states it fits less line than what Tasline states. I'm ordering by the metre so I need to work out how much line to order to fit 2 spools. Thanks for your help.

[@ziaudeenmahomedsayid8022]

I have no experience with high end reels like these as they cost cheap car prices here in South Africa but i like to repack grease when ever i spool a reel like this

[@egatube3309]

Anyway, what's hand/portable fish finder you recommend?

[@062pesca5]

awesome!

[@animalkangboangaka]

hello briggsy.. are you guys still using this line? is it a good line? what are your comments about it? thnx

[@aussiewhiskyguy973]

Hey man, Where do you get your gear from (line, hooks, lures) ect

[@fiddlestickzmuzik]

that was great..

[@teaguegaffy2955]

Fuck yeah boys

[@lamngothanh2789]

Very good!

[@buddyparrot1]

I realize this is old, but when you put line on a spinning reel, shouldn't it come off the top, or bottom, rather than the way there doing it?

[@MilenialMancingMania]

Good video, i like it

[@joshuasuriner7605]

I'm in the US... What brand of line counter is that? I can't find it anywhere... 😕

[@Mauser_.]

Great videos! Since you use the latest Saltiga and Stella, which one has better drag, which one is more reliable? Any comparisons please. Thanks

[@MorningTideFishing]

Editing a film where we talk about this right now haha. Should be up on the weekend. But our general view seems to be that both are good and it comes down to personal preference. If i remember I'll try and reply again with a link to the film in a couple days.

[@Mauser_.]

Thanks man. Keep up the good job.

[@scottdrysdale8584]

Hey boys, great videos keep it up! I'm only 15 and gamefish out of a boat most weekends but have always wanted to try landbased, what advice would you give?

[@MorningTideFishing]

Go with your mates so your not alone and only go in tiny conditions. It's pretty dangerous off the rocks so look up and learn all the safety aspects before going, if you can't swim, wear a life jacket. Other than that, much of the same principles apply and if you know how to catch fish out of a boat you'll prolly do well off the rocks! Watch our youtube films on what lure to start out with, look at our "what setup" and "what's in the box" films, and if you dead set want a complete guide to it watch this - www.morningtidefishing.com/collections/apparel/products/pelagic-off-the-rocks-dvd

[@scottdrysdale8584]

Yeah sounds good cheers for that, keep up the great videos!

[@mancingalamlokal8551]

Mantap brother,,,,good job,,,

[@AcrodeinoS]

what tape did they use to avoid slips ? plz

[@chasekaneakua8517]

Good shit boys. Bet that arm was warm after cranking under that much tension haha. Is that Dog Fight used? Just wondering why you mentioned it feeling a little off in the first part of the video.

[@MorningTideFishing]

Yeah i've had it for about a year and a half, Jonny used it on a GT trip out of the boat once and it came back not working at all (something fully snapped), after service (was done free on warranty) it felt nice again but it's been on a few more trips since that and also spun our local zone a fair bit where there's more swell so it gets splashed a lot. Nothing majorly wrong I don't think, just not perfectly smooth like how you'd want it to feel haha.

[@chasekaneakua8517]

Ah I see. Its got some "character" now.

[@christopherbingle3844]

Awesome reels guy you think about it though 500yard or just under aint alot of line id say but then again you got the line rod and reel to really stick it to a big fish if needed you should do another video with Dennis verret going after the big tunas

[@chasekaneakua8517]

In what world is 500 yards of line not enough?

[@JupJosh561]

Christopher Bingle thats 5 football field's it def is enough

[@austinprosser4179]

Chase Kaneakua there's every chance of hooking billfish capable of taking 500yds no worries, dennis verret gets smoked with this exact same reel and line by 100kg+ YTK... it's amazing how quickly 500yds goes when you hook something you shouldn't of haha

[@tucker_4629]

You must be talking about marlin when your talking about the billfish. bc a sailfish is also in the billfish family and no sailfish is gonna strip 500 yards of anything unless its like 10 pound mono. which in kilos that'd be like 5kg line. even a small marlin wouldn't strip out 500 yards of line if they have anything about 50 pound test (above 25ish kg)@@austinprosser4179

[@allenchong9816]

Don't mind me asking. Saw a previous video where the expedition 5500H too spooled 500 meters and this reel sized 8000H is roughly within the range too. And if not mistaken its around 50lbs too am i right? There's quite a gap in the model size but they have same line capacity?

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hi Mate, the PE and lb rating of a line is super confusing because a line can PE5 and break at 50lb or it could break at 30lb or even 80lb+ so it's safer to just look at the PE (thickness) of the line instead of going off the lbs... (the line in this film is 112lb and around PE7-PE8, line in that other film is 50lb-70lb (they call it 50lb but claim it breaks at 70lb+) and about PE3.5)

[@jayyo3574]

Aussie legends

[@LureSlingerFishing]

Are the WFT X8 or X4 winded? Thx

[@albertosanchez8703]

amazing vídeo !!! which part oficina Australia are you from ???

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hi Mate, we're from the East Coast of Australia and fish from NSW right up to the top of QLD.

[@albertosanchez8703]

thanks for the answer !

[@sunglee8753]

I was looking at purchasing the Saltiga 8000 Expedition but will this reel be able to handle 100lb Bluefin tuna? Also, how has the finish on that reel been holding up? I heard it can start chipping even after one outing.

[@lachlanoneil8938]

Lol I think they can get 200lb

[@mancingmania7113]

Speechlesss

[@austintong4285]

You tie the uni knot at the middle of the reel right

[@armandotorres2283]

good stuff guys I have a dogfight as well I'm trying to get some wtf aka WFT lol I'm planning a trip to Hawaii and catch some gts from the rocks

[@MorningTideFishing]

Nice one mate, I think it's pretty good stuff in the 39kg and up. Good luck on your trip!

[@armandotorres2283]

thanks mate hopefully I can upload a video lol start my chanel off the stone lol

[@christopherploss]

Are the hats gonna restock again? Also are you gonna drop the long sleeve catch and release shirt?

[@MorningTideFishing]

Caps are getting done at the moment and we just put up a new Psycho long sleeve. There are some simple logo LSs coming soon as well but we're in the process of changing to a bigger manufacturer so it's a bit of a slow time for the apparel. Here's the new Psycho - www.morningtidefishing.com/collections/apparel/products/mtf-psycho

[@harisbuza8862]

Bees knees is worth every cent!

[@sn1per196]

can you guys explain the logic to put 112lb line on a reel that can only do 66lb drag? woudnt putting 70lb line be more than enough (even still being able to lock the drag) without any worries. great vids btw

[@MorningTideFishing]

So there is a few reasons. First is I don't feel as confident with the thinner line, even just in terms of knot strength. Next reason is if you grab the spool (on top of the 66lb drag) that can put a lot more pressure on everything and lastly if I can't control him and the GT goes into the reef/rocks the 51kg is a bit thicker and that added abrasion resistance might save me! But all that said i've locked up on the 39kg WFT and couldn't snap it... So the Psychological aspect is prolly the main thing haha!

[@Morgancj]

MorningTide Fishing how are you guys casting the rapalas so far :(?

[@pichum4st3r]

SN1PER It is typically recommended that drag is set at 20-40% of the line strength. It puts less shock on the line and gentler on fish. If your drag is set too close to the line strength then your chances of line breaking and fish spitting out the hook is higher.

[@syafiqsyafiq9856]

What is that blue box name? That have meter count?

[@OasisFishingGroup]

the BEST

[@GravityCorp]

Smell so strong?? Damn 😂

[@alifishing2493]

Okie guys you're done spooling, may i have that rod & reel so i can go now for fishing🎣🎣😁

[@luiscontreras5206]

I’m thinking of buying this really what you guys think I’m trying to do kind of the same type of fishing you guys are doing big GT and also tune can I be able to fight the fish

[@mrpopo5285]

woder how manu meter il get with my bantam mgl and that line

[@jonesy5962]

Where do you guys get your wft strong line from? Trying to find a 1000m spool

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hi mate we get it of Dennis Verreet, I don't know where sells 1000m spools but if you're in Aus a site called "dinga" had the 600m spools.

[@freakzilla1013]

When using braid would you use the strongest braid and put less line or use less of a strength braid to add more line on the spool?

[@MorningTideFishing]

It depends on target fish. If you're going for GT you want at least 100lb line. If you're going for Tuna/Mackerel you want at least 300m of line preferably 500m (could be as light as 10lb I guess but we never fish so light, 30lb is the min we fish for Tuna/Mackerel).

[@freakzilla1013]

MorningTide Fishing Awesome thanks for the feed back I appreciate it!

[@duncanmcinnes9069]

Nice real

[@mikea1831]

Feedback on the WFT line please

[@christophstumpp5711]

Hey guys! Your Channel is Amazing!!! One small question: how many meters of 39 kg do you think is possible to Spool on the dogfight? Cheers from Germany;)

[@MorningTideFishing]

Hi Mate you should contact Dennis Verreet on his facebook fishing page (not only is he German as well haha but he might know the exact amount). If i was to guess it would be about 600m - 700m? It's a fair bit thinner than the 51kg but we've never spooled it with the line counter so can't say for sure.

[@christophstumpp5711]

Thank you very much!

[@willkerr8891]

How does the WFT go? i notice Cavy & Ryota use Tasline Elite but you and Brooksy use the WFT. The WFT is crazy thin for its breaking strain.

[@MorningTideFishing]

WFT in 39kg and 51kg is nice and smooth, i think it's 8 strand but the 32kg and 22kg are 4 strand and pretty rough on your finger, so personally, I way prefer the 39kg and 51kg in WFT.

[@armandotorres2283]

how many meters are in that spool of braid not in the reel on the spool ?

[@MorningTideFishing]

This was a 1000m spool, pretty sure they come in 300m, 600m, 1000m and 2000m.

[@Dylan-qx1eu]

why is your reel on the wrong side. On my reel the reeling thing is on the left side

[@MorningTideFishing]

You can switch it over on most reels but in Australia, we are taught to wind right handed when we're kids, no idea why. Compared to the US we drive on the opposite side of the road over here as well. Maybe it's just if ur in the southern hemisphere everything gets flipped haha.

[@cpt.cornhole5212]

You guys should give left hand wind a proper try if you're right handed. It will feel weird at first if you've always done it the other way but being able to wind straight out of the cast without swapping the rod to your left hand as well as being able to work lures and pump/ direct fish with your dominant arm is going to make it easier to make the rod and extension of your body rather than a tool. I fucking love this channel btw, just working my way through all your material because it's all amazing. Makes me want to abandon my life in the UK, move to Australia and spin for pelagics off the rocks. Great work guys.

[@JohnSmith-km2gn]

I always switch the handle to the right side on my reels. I'm right-handed and it feels more natural.

[@loucifer323]

I fish spinning reels on the left and baitcasters and spincast reels on the right, me and my friends charted a boat for lake trout and the charter had baitcasters with handles on the left couldn't stand it , it ruined the whole trip for everyone, he said he ordered them on the right side but they sent him on the left, I think he just got a good deal on them, but he should still have some reels on the right especially on baitcasters on spinning reels you can just move the handle from either side can't do that with baitcasters

[@mdmishu3349]

what is the name of your reel rod??

[@brahimziani2429]

wow omg.

[@nguoinaoo3363]

Rep clip 10> i like 😍😍

[@h2p59]

Where can I purchase the line?

[@maruszak7198]

Try marlin fishing from the rock see if you can catch a 400lb marlin. You definitely have the gear to do it.

[@coIey]

no one is catchinh a 400lb marlin from the rocks I doubt you could even do that standing up with a reel it would have to be in a reel holder

[@quadzilla26b]

Jellybeanjim 1 iv done it already, up north at Port Douglas.

[@chasekaneakua8517]

People do it with conventional reels from the rocks with nothing more than a fighting belt.

[@ryanmountain9427]

What spool holder do you u guys use??

[@ryanmountain9427]

Ahh cheers mate!

[@sambo2239]

big boyy

[@hazza196]

Nice video guys! What do you guys reckon on my next reel; Penn Clash CLA8000 or Shimano Saragosa 10000SW?

[@MorningTideFishing]

If I had to choose right this second I'd go the Saragosa, but I'm not familiar with the Clash so would want to feel both of them first before deciding.

[@hazza196]

Thanks for the advice. I will get a feel on both reels and then decide I guess.

[@watertothepeople]

I get the point why spooling the line tight..but this tight surprised me. maybe this is a stupid question, but if you get no bite and reel in with almost no resistance or drag, the line should require a notably larger volume on the reel as when spooled tight - does it still completely fit on, no problem? Or even when you fight a fish, you reel when pumping down with less resistance..really never spooled one so tight and I don't catch fish the size of yours on spinning tackle. cheers for sharing your experience with this!

[@MorningTideFishing]

You hook a GT with 20kg+ drag and the line's going to cut into itself regardless but the tighter you have it the less it will bite in. It does get laid a bit looser after you cast but it's only that top 60m-80m, the line under is still packed real tight. Whenever I tie a new leader I cut off about 2-3m of braid (down past where your finger touches the line when casting) to get rid of any damaged line and after a few new leaders the looser top section of line from casting compared to spooling fills it up pretty much perfect, before that it may be a bit over full...

[@watertothepeople]

awesome, thanks!

[@finallyoutfishing6861]

How much drag does it have

[@a1day133]

whenever i fill my spool that much i get wind knots and end up losing 30 yards or so that was extra:(

[@noahharing8945]

How do i get one of those hats

[@amfromch]

spooled exactly 450m WFT 51kg on my Dogfight 2 hours before..... and now seen this...LOL

[@damienfishing7055]

I HOPE YOU SEE THIS what is the name/brand of the holder where you put the line in to spool it on???

[@MorningTideFishing]

Here you go mate, "Bees Knees spooler" - www.bustedfishing.com/#!/Reel-Spooling-Products/c/7152160/offset=0&sort=normal

[@damienfishing7055]

Wooooow thanks for the reaction and oke thanks its a nice one and i love your videos❤️💪🏽

[@lincolnnave8987]

Imagine when you cut the line you get big birds nest hahaha

[@mikegee6140]

Nice!!! Dennis influenced? 😁

[@MorningTideFishing]

Haha Dennis even sent me the line! lol

[@jayv8888]

watched the whole video, no regrets