Vince Russo on WWE ignoring 'Black Lives Matter'

[@denverchicano303]

Thank God they didn't get political

[@Pheonixrising24]

Black Stooges doesnt draw ...

[@shameronstar7220]

Except Jonathan Coachman

[@willanderson2747]

Wwe definitely makes brothas look super corny and cheesy!

[@tyrellmiles1467]

Appreciate Trick Williams. That man is a gem and I hope they don’t fuck up with him when he gets to the main roster. Character wise, let trick be him. Same way how they’re doing with Jey so far.

[@roninmarketing4048]

Yes because DEI is going so well for every other organization out there.

[@LMAODOODZ]

DEI is a cope and term poorly educated racists use.

[@mr.awesome6011]

Because you don't need to support a political weapon organization to support black people

[@Mr.Majestic77]

When will people will realize that the WWE was previously owned by Vince McMahon and is currently owned by Endeavor TKO. The WWE is a cooperation that does NOT give a fu!k about minority achievements and minority issues in Pro Wrestling. As long as WWE fans come by the millions and millions and get your views and your hard earned cash, that's all that matters. For two Caucasians in Vince Russo and EC3 (Russo is Italian & EC3 well ???) to speak on this further confirms that their (to include Dr. Chris) Pro Wrestling Podcast is ight-years ahead of the Pro Wrestling podcast featuring Jim Cornette and Brian Last.

[@MarcWilliams-gj9dv]

Lashley is boring. That's a fact. His physique and connection to the U.S Army is THE ONLY REASON he was on t.v. Lashley is booooooooriiiiiiing. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzz

[@tyrellmiles1467]

Which makes a guy like mvp a gem. When mvp was managing Lashley, that was Lashley at his best. Without MVP, we don’t get that Lashley that we saw in 2020-22 that was wwe champion. We don’t get the guy that finally got his dream match with Brock.

[@IntegrityOverEverything]

The mvp promo with brock where brock offered mvp a drink was one of the funniest promos I’ve seen in a while n brock liked mvp you can tell when their together , now that brock is not there mvp is also not there

[@frugalminimalist4502]

Agree but dont attach it to a corrupt organization.

[@crunchycheetocreations4317]

16:51 and Chris continues to just spout off “what ifs” and “I bets”, dude…dude. You admit there was a black creative but refuse to believe his ideas were used. Ok, some people just want to lie and pivot and make up more conjecture. Unsubscribed

[@EnclaveApex]

Not a good look for Vince, and an even worse look for Dr. Chris. I'm right with you.

[@deadbrothers8348]

Yea Chris is a fn weirdo

[@pilot8220]

You typed a novel of bullzhit. Cry harder

[@daytonflyerr7608]

Dr Chris dives deep so sometimes he gets caught in his own stuff that's what happened. It's ok if he doesn't speak for you. Just say that. You don't have to unsub

[@crunchycheetocreations4317]

@@pilot8220 novel??? Tell us you’re illiterate without saying it 😂🤣

[@FUu-ql4kf]

That doesn't go with the current product BRO

[@pilot8220]

Yes it does BRO

[@jayone1371]

Soo how is shawn Micheal's doing it... EC3 had the best take on it

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

Race, gender, and sexuality are the least interesting things about a person. Just stop it.

[@EarthdogGFX]

THAT WHY THERES NO STARS

[@Cratossama]

I mean Lashley stayed in the midcard n had Roman boasting about how he beat everyone despite being on the same show as lashley. And Shelton never won MITB despite running up ladders so it makes sense to me. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@daytonflyerr7608]

Benjamin should've been had the title. He should be as big as or bigger than Cody right now. They were tag team partners under Kurt Angle. You remember that? From that point. Cody jumped to different factions. He was in bullet club wasn't he? Didn't he and Randy start something? He collected his little cred as he went along. So did Benjamin. He should've came back to WWE and broke off solo when HB didn't work. He'd be where Cody is ijs maybe an AEW stint and right back to WWE like Cody like aJ. He could be that big imo he has the look

[@Unitenotfight]

Shelton was massively talented, arguably the absolute best in ring, ever. But his lack of mic skills held him back, as well as him being too nice of a guy to politic himself up the card. I agree, he should have been a main eventer, and I honestly think had Brock not cut his first run so short, Shelton likely would have been a main eventer. Him and Brock were good friends, and if Brock had stayed longer and gained more favor, they definitely would have been working together at the top of the card. Likely with Heyman being a mouthpiece for both, or switching to just Shelton over time. There’s a parallel universe somewhere with Shelton as a multi time WWE champ.

[@bobbyjohnson9409]

Would they have been heel or face faction

[@robertocruztv6097]

WWE is more talking than actual wrestling

[@semyaza555]

“I wish WWE were like AEW”

[@juancarlosrivera5689]

Attitude era??

[@Unregistered.HyperCam.2]

As Max Landis said nearly a decade ago: "Wrestling isn't wrestling."

[@Liberty_Sword]

Race and culture are not the same thing. Just because a person is born with a certain skin color does not automatically mean thst they must behave a certain way. For example, I am black. I don't like hip hop and I do like classical and country music. If someone said " hey, you're black, let me introduce you to our new black writer Michael, he's black, therefore he understands you and your culture better than me" it would be completely wrong, as I may have more in common with the other writer. We can be two completely different kinds of people, and yes, two completely different cultures. Saying "yeah you might have the same skin color but be different people, but you must have the same culture, right!?", is still assuming that you're character itself must be the same at some level just because your skin color is "the same" (let alone the fact that what is defined as "black" is irrational as there are many degrees of brown, and it was a white supremacist definition to assume that if you have a drop of "black" in you, then you're just "black", even if the color is nowhere near the "same". Then, based off of THIS, now there's an expectation that your behavior, your "culture" is supposed to be the "same") Just because my skin color is a certain way doesn't mean that I'm "supposed" to be a certain way, and saying that the black writer and myself share a "culture" is to actually be guilty of making that assumption. Which brings me to MVP. I have found that he has many takes that I find cringe. Believe it or not, my skin color is the same as his. However, he does not speak for me, believe it or not. What he has to say, I don't find to be "educating" the world over what I would have to say, as if we would somehow have the same views as to what it means to be black. Which brings me to the Hurt Business and BLM.... You do understand that having half the black roster in a single group is a type of segregation, right? It's just like CT universities having racial dormrooms and calling them "safe spaces" is all that was needed for these white liberals to inadvertently bring back racial segregation in general and intriduce it to the north inparticular. You can't fight racism with racism, even if you're black. Aa for BLM, I have found that the general public is not as misinformed about what it was/is as much as it's advocates would like. It pretty much WAS what people thought it was, and whenever spoken about by athletes in the contexts of sports and entertainment, it was/is always either cringe or supercringe, especially when a young emotional black athlete takes the stage to talk about it. It did not help the perception of black people at all, just take a look at the Tyron Woodley press conference debacle; are we going to say "yeah but he's not a good example because he doesn't know what BLM is"? Is it possible for a white person to know what BLM is more than Tyron Woodley? If so, is it "bad" to let a white person talk about BLM instead of Woodley? If these questions are difficult to answer then we are falling into the trap of assuming that if you're black, then you "understand" certain things better than white people, just because of being black and for no other reason, which assumes that you ARE a certain way just for being black.......which is racism. You can't fight racism with racism, it's still irrational. If Bobby Lashley, MVP, Cedric and Shelton all went out there as heels and "educated" white people on BLM, then it would have made black people look a certain way as a whole. If they went out there as faces and did the same thing, then they would have been "right" as faces, which means that other black stars like Keith, Bianca, Omos, Jade, ect, would have looked bad by not joining their group. On top of all of that, why is it that if you're black (or in a black group) that you're character or storyline is expected by certain observers to center around the fact that you're black, or that you have to talk about being black, or that you being black should be a "gimmick"? Again, that's assuming that if you're black then you should be a certain way. It's mental segregation. Having superhero characters that happen to be black or stables that are majority black without the fact that they're black being a central part of their character or "gimmick" does much more for the mental state of their viewers than all of the inadvertent racial segregation storylines and promos ever will. I think WWE was right for leaving politics (racial or otherwise) out of it.

[@Ten-gd1qh]

Patrice O'Neal stated he worked for WWE for cup of coffee

[@AnneHathawayRules]

No he made the joke that he was a writer for them about long enough to have a cup of coffee because Kevin Dunn didn't like him

[@midnightmadness7048]

They should have put mvp with the street profits and lashly that would made the most sense. Mvp was cooking as a manager

[@daytonflyerr7608]

Bobby bout to kayfabe and come back with a yt manager as a heel. Street prophets don't need him and I'm sure he will abandon them

[@midnightmadness7048]

@@daytonflyerr7608you say they dont need lashley or mvp but they are just going to be lingering on the mid card as per usual street profits have not elevated no matter how ppl like montez ford.

[@TimL86Roe]

You got to look at Bianca because she made invented WWE the last 2 years 2022 and 2023

[@Golden-God]

You mean "main evented"?

[@Rschr101]

Everybody should have ignored it.

[@ericanders2819]

Seriously LMAO

[@knowsbetter764]

I bet you don't ignore our culture

[@semyaza555]

@@knowsbetter764 Respectfully, your "culture" is toxic. A healthy society wouldn't promote it but America is a cesspool. So, it does. Russo doesn’t care about BLM. He gets all his ideas from media because he can't book, and doesn't have any original ideas of his own. I appreciate that WWE is one of the few refuges from politics.

[@pilot8220]

You were ignored as a child, enbred

[@LHBH8]

@@knowsbetter764what culture?

[@donaldmurphy1405]

The problem is maybe there isn't enough black writers or even a bunch of the top names that Should be pushed,yes The Hurt Business was great but I'm pretty sure it came out Black lives Matter is run by A bunch of Communist women so that may have caused all kinds of Bad heat,And Lashley and the Street Profits looks great so I don't know why they didn't push them,Maybe Lashley Shelton,and MVP can go to AEW,MVP and Shelton should form the tag team because there both still great workers unless MVP is hurt,idk? But it would be great to see them in AEW!

[@Amos_Huclkeberry]

Why not go with who's qualified rather than giving a crap about race? DEI isn't making anything better.

[@bricepaul80]

Bobby Lashley should've came out with a MAGA hat ( cos he wrestled for Trump) in 2017

[@AbhaySharma-xu6jn]

😂this is the guy who is responsible for the fall of WcW ... people dont care about colour of the skin ... they want good wrestling...get over skin colour now it's 2024 😂

[@Kindaserious365]

Steven Spielberg also did the color purple

[@CalebEvans-zq3kd]

Wasnt acknowledge me america first

[@McMahonHater]

Women don't know how t9 write women l9ok at she-hulk it tanked. Why is it hard to book black wrestlers? Just book them the way you would a white wrestler what difference does it matter?

[@trustbelievethegospel6341]

As a Black man, my level of respect for Vince and EC3 has went up. For them to have this conversation and articulate their worldview on this subject was top level.

[@kvx999]

That's okay I ignored it as well except for their mostly peaceful protests of course!

[@knowsbetter764]

Like Jan 6 protest right

[@masterkillahx]

Did you watch the video? Or reacting to the title?

[@theantone7476]

​@@knowsbetter764🤡

[@ElAssoWipe-o]

@@knowsbetter764 Well no because that was a peaceful protest unlike BLM that deleted 34 people over a criminal you bot.

[@godphoenix66x]

​@@knowsbetter764 here we go. Social Justice Warrior has entered the chat.

[@QuentinLassiter]

Thank goodness they ignored that terrible organization

[@zartan215]

@QuentinLassiter = Pro Jan. 6

[@QuentinLassiter]

@@zartan215 Absolutely, y’all gave all your money to a lesbian, spent it all on herself and her family 😂 🤡

[@QuentinLassiter]

@@zartan215 All the money you gave to BLM was used for personal gain 😂 not surprised, BLM was a scam

[@ElAssoWipe-o]

@@zartan215 That scripted event, troll?

[@zartan215]

@@ElAssoWipe-o It wasn't scripted, tonto!

[@pilot8220]

Thumbs up

[@VASPORTSAGENCY]

No Black talent has been booked for SummerSlam, so it seems Triple H isn't escaping those accusations of racism.

[@TJ-zs3vx]

Out of 5 matches so far there is a Puerto Rican (who has a world title) and two Samoans, who are both in title matches also.

[@VASPORTSAGENCY]

@@TJ-zs3vx "BLACK"

[@kozmicflush980]

So forced diversity, huh? Not good for anything. But, i will say kofi Kingston deserve to be top guy. Get him far away from new day garbo

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

I know that the top 2 champions at one point were Bobby Lashley and Kofi Kingston. That was the first time the top champion was black (other than the Rock) in the history of the Wwe! There were opportunities in the past. Booker T should have gotten over on Triple H. Mark Henry should have gotten over John Cena in 2011. R Truth is good enough to have won the top title. But maybe as triple H begin to take charge, he changed that.

[@daytonflyerr7608]

Kofi don't recognize as African he more Jamaican imo. Some black people see that in him and don't care for him either. Same with Woods. Dude is married to a yt. He will never have any fans that are black women once they find that out 😂 trust me. Kofi hang wit em so they don't like them either. Black men get clowned for liking them. They're not for the culture AT ALL. All these gimmicks and stuff put them in a box it's really not that hard to see but people STILL defend them hard. Kofi is trash. Woods is trash. IDC if they had the title give me BIG E over them any day or hour of the week. For real! Bobby and Big E are the examples. Everyone else is too small or too irrelevant

[@daytonflyerr7608]

Booker T got a push. That whole season he and Austin were going at it for invasion angle. Classic. The rock and Booker t? Classic. They should run that back actually. 😮 Booker t was king Booker. He got treated right! WCW did him wrong not WWE. Get it right. Even David Arquette said it when he won the title. That was on WCW watch!!

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

@daytonflyerr7608 So, are black Americans not black because they were born in the United States? Did you know that Jamaicans and Hispanic blacks are also from Africa?

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

@daytonflyerr7608 I think Xavier Woods has the personality to be a star, if they would give him something interesting. He could have become a great heel, like authority Seth Rollins, or Daniel Bryan in 2012I always loved R Truth, and he should be one of the top guys. But, you are right about stereotypes, and lack of creativity. The New Day gimmick made me cringe, until they were so over the top with it, it was kind of funny!

[@truthtransistorradio6716]

@@daytonflyerr7608 He still never won the WWE title.

[@christhianborrero3623]

The Hurt Business have wrong members in that stable. They should have being Moose and have Keith Lee debut on the maint roster with Lashley , MVP and Moose. I am not big fan of Keith Lee but at least you can take him more seriously that Shelton and Cedrick.

[@theoelliott4649]

Ignored it cause they didn’t give a 🤬

[@AnneHathawayRules]

Nobody does

[@TimL86Roe]

Has anybody been watching NXT must be blind triple h is doing a great job better than Vince

[@casualtalk6512]

Yea credit to shawn michaels for that hes running nxt and pushing those talents not triple h and vince did a better job at pushing diverse talents on the main shows.

[@Tom-tq6qg]

Yo russo nice shirt looooser

[@zn2qo]

Im glad they black wrestlers werent talking about blm i dont want to see that crap everywhere

[@Tom-tq6qg]

EC3 is the most under used wrestler ever he's a top funny as fuk heel in my eyes we lived you in tna EC3 wwe tried to tarnish u

[@paulcarpenter7844]

The dude is complete ass airhead goofy corny as hell

[@ericanders2819]

🤦‍♂️

[@humble_8574]

Triple H doesn't feel like incentivizing the importance of diversity, equity, and inclusion for better storylines of Black males on the main roster. Endeavor/TKO needs to fix that before they lose a group of Black males who do watch wrestling.

[@TJ-zs3vx]

Unfortunately the majority of them are garbage talents other than Lashley but he's in his 40's.

[@Unregistered.HyperCam.2]

@@TJ-zs3vx Black person here, agree 100%. I'm really big on Oba Femi in NXT when he has more experience and called up to the main roster, but it may just be because he reminds me so much of Ahmed Johnson - just with more comprehensible promos and less reports of him being a jerk or of hurting others or himself. Trick Williams has potential as a total package, but other than that, there aren't too many black wrestlers in WWE I'm interested in seeing at the top of the card. Bianca Belair was nice at the top for a while, but she feels stale to me at this point. I love R-Truth to death, but any hope of him winning a top title was snuffed out when "Lil Jimmy" went from a sarcastic pissed-off quote to being a full-out comedy character in 2011. WWE doesn't have a diversity problem - they have a ton of interesting Samoans, Tongans, Africans, Latinos y Latinas, Japanese, Brits, Irish, Aussies, Kiwis, continental Europeans, amongst other things - but with Big E now retired, Lashley pushing 50, and Kofimania being a flash in the pan that's barely remembered - not because Kofi is black, but because Kofi is booked as an eternal midcarder and generally booked as a tag wrestler, with Kofimania only even happening as a result of happenstance - it's not that WWE or TKO are _refusing_ to push black wrestlers. Rather, most of the black wrestlers in WWE aren't interesting enough to push hard. Maybe when they finally make Montez Ford a solo wrestler people will shut up for a little while, at least.

[@humble_8574]

@@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 I'm sorry, but Summerslam is still not sold out. So what does that mean for Cody Rhodes, Damien Priest, Seth Rollins, and Logan Paul? Maybe they come off as dull, too.

[@Unregistered.HyperCam.2]

@@humble_8574 Great. I couldn't care less if it was sold out or not, and I don't care if the others come across as dull or not to someone. I'm talking about black wrestlers and diversity, in a comment thread about black wrestlers and diversity, on a video about black people and diversity in pro wrestling. The non-black wrestlers are completely irrelevant, unless you're looking at it from a racist perspective, which isn't the greatest perspective to look at it from. I really have no idea why you think going "but what about so-and-so" was some type of gotcha or like I gave half a crap. It comes across as extremely immature and ignorant. All it means is that you probably failed your high school Economics class.

[@humble_8574]

@@Unregistered.HyperCam.2 Well, go outside and touch some grass.

[@deadbrothers8348]

Bianca and jade just lost the tag titles lol … they’ve been booked well … Bianca has been booked unbelievably well during her career… nxt champion was trick for a long time … wtf are you people talking about ?! … the women have main evented wrestlemania lol … F off with your race bait bs … we see through that

[@pilot8220]

Shut up

[@MarcWilliams-gj9dv]

RIGHT ON😂😂😂 These dudes are clowns.

[@daytonflyerr7608]

The thing about "black" wrestlers is like we imagine them to look like Big E and Bobby Lashley but they dont or they are big for nothing. Kofi is not 🚫 black. He would claim Jamaican first. Kross is weird. Hes married to a yt so he doesnt rep the culture. Bobbys coming back kayfabe with a yt manager. El Campion of Judgement day is claiming the streets. Smh man they need someone to portray A REAL street persona. Its very easy. It would work in wrestling bc it hasnt been done. Name one wrestler besides JTG that was lit on the mic and you believed when he wrestled he was a STREET brawler. Im about to create some characters in a book they can go off of. This is ridiculous representation of "blacks" in wrestling. Native Americans get no play either. Just as their is a bloodline they could EASILY be a parallel to that with tribes or groups of indians.

[@Unregistered.HyperCam.2]

Besides the horribly ignorant and, frankly, xenophobic and racist comments like Kofi not being black and that he'd claim Jamaican first - when he was billed as Jamaican for three of his *eighteen years* in the company, being billed from Ghana, West Africa and having no Jamaican accent for the other *fifteen years* of his tenure(lets not ignoring categorizing Samoans and Tongans "Native Americans" instead of Pacific Islanders, and relating the Bloodline to a parallel of "tribes or groups of Indians"), there is/was: - One Man Gang. Name says it all. - JYD; his own demons were his downfall, not being booked like garbage immediately. He was booked like garbage when he was so hopped up that he was absolutely unreliable. - Faarooq in the OG WWF version of Nation of Domination, where it was a street gang, not a Black Panther militant group. - Ahmed Johnson to an extent, when you actually had transcripts of his promos. - Mark Henry, pretty much any time he _wasn't_ Sexual Chocolate, but especially during his World's Strongest Man & Hall of Pain runs. - Booker T, whose gimmick for the majority of his career was "kid from the streets goes to prison, becomes a pro wrestler and uses that to make sure he's staying out of trouble" - R-Truth has been a pure comedy character in WWE since mid-late 2011, but his skill on he mic is absolutely undisputed as one of the best in the company, even without the comedy schtick. Check him out as Ron "The Truth" Killings in early TNA if you want to force him into a box of "black wrestler claiming the streets." (Which is a horribly narrow-minded view of black people in and of itself; black person here that grew up in the ghetto, and "repping the streets" IRL is the quickest way to get yourself put in a cage or a box. Not something you want to actively promote or encourage as a positive when you're a publicly traded company that caters to ages 5 to 105.) - You had Hit Row with this to a lesser extent, though they got dropped faster than hot coals when they hit the main roster. Isaiah "Swerve" Scott was the only one in the group with charisma whatsoever, so it's not surprising that he, as Swerve Strickland, is now AEW champion - not because WWE wouldn't make him into a black champion, but because Hit Row was god awful and would've been cement shoes for Swerve. This is all off the top of my head, btw. If I actually thought, or looked stuff up, I'd probably have a list of upper-midcarders and main eventers in WWF/E that were black, had "street" gimmicks, and "kept it real" in character that would be way too long to fit a KZbin comment's max length. tl;dr: You're being ignorant as all hell. Stop whiffing your farts and actually use your brain.

[@iceman-hw7kb]

i agree with 💩saints i'm black wrestling fan i suprised to agree with russo

[@Tom-tq6qg]

All we want is gud wrestling the story lines are a waste ov time we want another hbk we want aj styesl we want osprey we dnt care about soap opra storylines

[@paulcarpenter7844]

God damn it did you learn how to spell u need unique story lines to complete a good wrestling match

[@Unregistered.HyperCam.2]

Watch NJPW or NOAH or almost Japanese promotion - or one of the British or European promotions or one of the thousands of indies across the world that present pro wrestling as little more than a legitimate sport. You'll be much happier than watching something you DON'T like and whining about it in KZbin comments.

[@CalebEvans-zq3kd]

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