SPR Lessons Learned in the Desert

After our time at Zone 23 we spent some time working on our long range skills in the desert, learning some important lessons along the way.
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0:00 Intro
0:38 Vlog
4:33 Magnification matters
6:53 Driving the gun
9:53 Don't fight your setup
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[@philliplopez1501]

Helpful hint: most people don't dress like flat white targets. Take a couple cans of spray paint with you when you set out targets. Paint a "t-shirt", hair, and a chin on your target. It will help you to learn to identify targets better at range. It's a real world skill that is often overlooked.

[@joehumphreys5571]

I put an old OCP top on my targets

[@joshjohnson1653]

So glad I found your channel. Really enjoying the SPR content!

[@bearman000ify]

From a long time shooter, your videos are absolutely outstanding!!!

[@mtnbound2764]

im just getting into long range/ precision shooting and these video's are super helpful! cant wait to get out to 600!

[@lukeflaugher5334]

Just bought a DD Mk12 upper to start my SPR journey. I’ve took multiple night vision and regular day time classes but I’ve been dying to broaden the skill set

[@mikeoxlong5303]

Loving these spr videos. Good tip on the stock width.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Appreciate it, just trying to share as I learn along the journey. Still a long way to go.

[@mghegotagun]

@@jimmybrodriguez Your logic on the stock choice seems sound. The lower the optic is, the more you'll have to roll your head to get behind the glass, which means a slimmer stock would be preferable. I see the magpul CTR's width is apparently 1.7". You think Luth ar's MBA-5 stock with its 1.8" width is 'close enough' to be just as servicable on your setup? Also, what is the height of your scope mount's centerline?

[@davidbarker7661]

Great info

[@mexicangator]

Awesome video helping the algorithm

[@TheZrig]

I have been getting frustrated every time I go shoot past 300 with the “eye box” on my RZR 1-10 in the prone. It never occurred to me my stock might be hindering me from staying directly behind the scope. I swapped the STR for a CTR and it feels like a different scope and I’m much more comfortable behind the gun. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@mathewfitzpatrick5645]

Gear doesn't make you a better shooter, but it can make it easier.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Agreed!

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

If that were true, I wouldn’t have built a $7,000 AR dude.

[@possum__puncher]

Too much fun was had

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Tell me more….also the video doesn’t do justice of the elevation

[@dubjspecialk]

I bought a chainsaw and a ctr / arisaka bag rider. I have not been able to put through the paces yet, but our brains are obviously in sync right now. Vibin'

[@koengCO]

Great vid! 👍👍

[@jimmybrodriguez]

🙌🏻🙌🏻more hotness inbound

[@koengCO]

@@jimmybrodriguez Looking forward to it! 👍👍

[@seanrodriguez2384]

CTR is GOATED

[@lasvegashelipilot]

You should come to Vegas and shoot one of our monthly 'Accurized AR' matches. 3 different divisions (you would fall in the Tac Light division, max 8x scope and only .223/5.56). Very similar format to PRS but targets are from 220 yards to 650 yards and its time-based instead of points. I started shooting bolt gun PRS matches but have grown to like these gas gun matches a lot more. I have a short video on my channel about a recent one.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Sounds like the one in AZ. We’ll add it to our list and maybe get @rogerbarrera to shoot with us

[@Tragic387]

Local to Vegas, how can I find these matches?

[@lasvegashelipilot]

@@Tragic387 look for the Sin City Precision group on Facebook and/or practiscore

[@user-mj1vb8jr6j]

Love your channel man! I’m currently working on my dream AR which is a Frankenstein mix of vltor buffer and stock, law folder, aero lower, Geissele 3G, DD M4A1 block 2 upper, LMT EBCG, and a dead air flash. I’m supposed to get a bonus soon and if it’s enough I’ll get the sandman s, and an optic. I was thinking LPVO for the longest time, but lately I’m reevaluating that idea big time. I think a good 3.6-18 like a mark 5, or a nightforce nxs 2-10x42 in conjunction with an offset T2 will provide the best functions for my needs. The new LPVO’s seem Friggin awesome but I’d still probably add an offset red dot so why spend all the money for an optic to go to one when I have a one offset already. If I did go LPVO I’ll do the trijicon SCO for the battery life. Argh I just wish I was rich and I’d buy all of em.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Yes higher magnification with an offset dot would def be the way to go. It’ll be worth the wait once you get it all done

[@fulcrummando22]

Speaking from experience, the higher magnification variable optics tend to weigh significantly more - so buyer beware. That's how you accidentally end up with a 20 lbs. rifle

[@griffey11]

So when is bruiser doing a class at ETTS? Cuz I'm definitely signing up whenever he does.

[@owenhutchins5388]

Are you using the sticky game changer as a rear bag as you displayed ? If so, that could be a huge portion of your issue. I ran a sticky for 2 seasons of PRS and it took me those two seasons to realize I hate them for anything except putting the sticky against an obstacle. NOT against the rifle. The stickiness when used as front or rear bag with sticky against the rifle just ends up locking you in the position you first contacted the rifle against it. Any small adjustments you make after the initial planting on the bag have a “rubber band” effect to them as the bag is constantly pulling the rifle back into natural position. Hope this makes sense

[@e7tegt503]

Cool series. I'm trying to get this nailed down myself. What about lop? Does the recoil pad of the stock need to be in crook of your elbow like a precision rifle stock?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/npvdmp6sedKYZtk Did a video with Bruiser going over it

[@leviraydrake]

Me watching the whole video knowing damn well I only own red dots that aren’t zeroed past 50/200 😂

[@jimmybrodriguez]

😂😘but we love the support. Come shoot long range with us

[@81money]

What bag are using mounted in front of you lower receiver while performing the ladder drill? Around the 9 minute mark.

[@RyanEmmett179]

How does he like the Sierra 5 from Dead Air

[@Minutes-Mils]

Was this just a get together or a class. I'm local to North Phoenix and would really like to go to a long range spr type class

[@jimmybrodriguez]

This was just a get together after an event. Check out Bruiser industries. I feel I’ve he has some long range classes coming that way

[@64samsky]

I just found your channel, what size barrel are you using?

[@XDWX]

Where in AZ were you?

[@buffalowick8003]

Hey whats the thing you are using to record through scope?

[@michaelpaynter1895]

Yo Jim are you going to cover different ammo being tested?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Yeah we’re getting some ordered from @bigtexordnance to test out

[@peterschmidt2849]

❤️‍🔥🔥🇺🇸

[@jimmybrodriguez]

🤘🏼

[@Supersonicjosh100]

Can we trade the arisaka bag rider for the b5 systems stock?

[@1776carpediem]

What scope cam is that?

[@m10blloqu]

How do you like the triggercam? Does it affect light transmission and glass clarity much?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

It’s a great training tool. It affects it slightly along with being a little awkward on the atacr models but worth it

[@m10blloqu]

@Jim's Goon Life think it would affect clarity too much shooting to 250 yards at night with a LEP or OKW?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Nah you’ll be fine

[@m10blloqu]

@Jim's Goon Life awesome, thanks!

[@EmpTy-kf2rq]

What’s the spelling of that restaurant’s name?

[@seanrodriguez2384]

How are you attacking the bipod QD or MLOK?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Pic. It add a little more height by stacking them

[@seanrodriguez2384]

@@jimmybrodriguez bet! I’m trying to finish my SPR and been going crazy on what attachment to use

[@operatorsanonymous1741]

Out with my bois Price Smith and Preston Sidwell.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Yeah they’re ok I guess

[@operatorsanonymous1741]

@@jimmybrodriguez lol.. I've shot with them a good bit. Price's p0rn stache is 🔥.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

He charges people just go look at it now. I had fill out copyright paperwork to even show it and was limited to only a few seconds

[@operatorsanonymous1741]

@@jimmybrodriguez yeah? Guess I get afforded special privileges. Ask him about Wisconsin. 🥰

[@jimmybrodriguez]

👀👀👀

[@petercristiano4068]

“Suburban distances” NF atacr 1-8x good for the job?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

I don’t know some suburbs in Texas are pretty big and it’s very much dependent on context but I would say yes it should be sufficient for most applications.

[@petercristiano4068]

@@jimmybrodriguez thanks for the reply. I don’t have any time behind magnified optics and I wanted to go the buy once cry once route.

[@griffey11]

@@petercristiano4068 ATACR 4-16 is actually cheaper than the 1-8 if that interests you.

[@aventador832]

@@petercristiano4068 ATACR is absolute gold. Get the 1-8 and don’t look back. Unless you want to shoot further then get the 4-16.

[@Bunkerking2003]

What height is your scope mount

[@jimmybrodriguez]

On this model 1.54 but I’ve used the unity mount quite a bit as well. There is trade offs to both, but I think it comes down to preference because you can make both work well

[@Bunkerking2003]

@JimsGoonLife awesome thanks. Yes I'm trying to find the right height for my new build. I'm sure I will see you in Kansas at this year's tactical games sniper challenge. I'm doing team event but have built the rifle for the recce division for future events.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Dude looking forward to it! Should be a good time as long as it’s not balls cold lol

[@drnkoper8r484]

What bags are you using?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Armageddon gear

[@drnkoper8r484]

@@jimmybrodriguez which bags though? I knew the brand

[@jimmybrodriguez]

The optimized game changer, maybe the pint size. I don’t remember which size exactly

[@drnkoper8r484]

@@jimmybrodriguez thanks man

[@jbcaptain11]

What gas system are you running. A rifle length gas, rifle length stock, and lightweight buffer will help in my opinion. Then dropping mass in the bcg

[@44nyle]

What squeeze bag are you running?

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Armageddon gear optimized bag, I forgot the exact size

[@44nyle]

@@jimmybrodriguez Thank you Sir.

[@John_439]

Magpul stocks are also just better

[@andrew13651]

not a 4" circle

[@jimmybrodriguez]

You have no idea how much confidence this just gave me

[@mexicangator]

not only that human opposition aren't wearing blatant UT orange shirts in the distance

[@menandroplan1554]

Gear doesnt make you a better shooter, but it could keep you up for days on end if smoked

[@griffey11]

🤣

[@cottleful]

I stop taking people seriously when they talk about engaging targets past 600 yards with 5.56 in a real world application. It’s fun to shoot steel that far but anything past 300-500 yards the 5.56 is absolutely awful with terminal ballistics. It’s a great caliber in its envelope but that stops realistically at 3-400 yards for terminal effects.

[@Wlvrtnjm]

Wide faces like skinnier stocks. Skinny faces like wider stocks.

[@fubar1217]

You shouldn't be grabbing the stock with your left hand. Lean your face on the stock and let that weight push the stock into the bag. Then squeeze the bag or loosen to adjust your aim up or down.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Grab the stock and the bag together secured the two together which keeps the stock from sliding from side to side on the back or off the bag on some smaller bags. Overall it leads to a more stable platform vs just grabbing the bag. It may not be your jam, but it works for me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH-mh3V8o6iEbtk

[@fubar1217]

​@@jimmybrodriguez The bags should have enough give to let the stock sit down into (the bag in the vid looks like the Game Changer or similar which I believe is meant to support a foreend rather than be used as a rear bag so it may be a little stiffer). Also, the stock would be "contained" on 3 sides with your shoulder, your cheek and the bag. At that point, there should be no side to side movement especially if you're loading the bipod. The fewer body parts that make contact with the gun, the less chance of introducing additional movement as you noticed with your thumb introducing pressure on the stock. But like you said, that's what works for me.

[@fubar1217]

@@jimmybrodriguez Just watched the vid again (seen it before) and noticed he grabs the stock together with the bag for more stability for follow up shots. Guess that makes more sense on a gas gun. My advice was coming from my experience shooting bolt guns. Either way, thanks for the vids! Before watching this video, I was considering getting the Magpul PRS Lite stock for my newly built 16" SPR but you make a lot of sense talking about getting closer to center line of the gun. I may still try it anyway as it'll ride a bag better than the SL stock I have on it now.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Ctr with a bag rider from arisaka will solve that problem. I tested the prs (not the lite) and wasn’t a fan. And you are spot on about gas vs bolt gun which is why I made my comment about being able to get away with stuff on a bolt gun that you can’t with a gas gun.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

Yes, it is a game changer but many of our comps limit us to one bag so a game changer makes sense for a variety of positions.

[@joshjosh575]

All that gear and still he can’t shoot. My son with irons could outshoot this kid. And his build I put together is 500 bucks.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

You should start him a KZbin channel and have challenge all the guntubers to iron sight competitions. That would be super entertaining and fun. 12/10 I’d be on it and get some other guys on it too.

[@joshjosh575]

@@jimmybrodriguez you should start a radio channel to talk about how good you are. We could hear you pretend to hit bullseyes with all the gear. You have the skills for radio essentially. Definitely a face for radio as well.

[@jimmybrodriguez]

I’ll do it only if you promise to call in everyday and talk sweetly like this to me

[@joshjosh575]

@@jimmybrodriguez only if you promise to fix that weak jaw line.

[@joshjosh575]

@@jimmybrodriguez only if you promise to fix that weak jaw line.