SPRING 2024 EUC Preview ft. Lynx, V14, and Commander Pro GT!!

[@OWGAC]

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[@patrickmckowen2999]

Great update 👍 I'm looking for wheel safety, no cut outs and especially no battery fires. Cheers

[@pacochawa2746]

I second that.

[@Laenthal]

90kph is the limit for an actual everyday use, due to aerodynamics. Our guys who do 90+ experiments (109kph GPS is the record so far) report that the headwind becomes a wall completely changing the rider-wheel system behavior. Undoubtedly EUC companies know that very well, so watch as their marketing buzzwords will shift from speeds to other aspects of their products.

[@ZorgKirill]

Did they do that while standing or sitting? My standing record was 86km/h, pretty windy. Maybe it's possible to squeeze a little bit more if sitting.

[@Laenthal]

@@ZorgKirill sitting, there's a video of one such experiment

[@Killpocalips]

People should be seeing this as a good thing because once we have a "limitless" wheel manufacturing can be focused on making a fully put together and consumer friendly product. Not that every wheel will need to be at the peak of performance but we can have distinct categories and there won't be so much fighting about who has the best performance.

[@OWGAC]

maybe people need to start wearing those aero suits for EUC top speed runs!

[@better.better]

honestly considering some of the motorcycle and bicycle accidents that I've witnessed, and some of the dumb things I've seen extremely lucky people get away with, as well as some of my own personal close calls involving other drivers, there definitely needs to be some careful consideration to limitations by design. and of course there also needs to be consideration for the perspective of the non-EUC community. The last thing we need is some sort of witch hunt against EUC by the general public because of the poor decisions of a few idiots who don't have any self control. I say "we"... I don't even own one yet, but I definitely want to, and I really don't want them to be outlawed before I can even ride one, or worse yet after I've already spent the money on one. in fact I'm surprised there already hasn't been legislation to include them in the same classification as ebikes etc... requirements that they have to meet certain standards to be ridden in traffic

[@Platypus-Dreams]

I think 55 mph is enough and they should focus on range

[@EkoKolo_Katowice]

Sherman MAX or Sherman S .

[@LS-jk3fk]

@@EkoKolo_Katowice masta pro

[@dagainsta6253]

Never . ... we ain't stopping till we teleport thru the streets 🎉🎉

[@roghaj]

I feel like I hit the bigtime. I only got to ride the Lynx a few miles. It was a blast. I also remember sending you a "What's up" about the V13 from a parking lot after you said we are only fast in Cali because our open roads. Didn't get any real miles on that either.... but I did enjoy it as well. I hope the true potential of the Lynx and V14 are both unlocked. I know the EX30 is about at its limit. I broke 65mph on that beast. Looking forward to crashing a new gen of wheels.

[@julsride3596]

Whats the best for racing out of the 3. Clearly inmotion 14 is out.

[@roghaj]

@@julsride3596 I'd say a Master V4 or the lynx for you.

[@LiveStoked]

I can't imagine many scenarios where I would really want to go much faster than 45-50. At a point it's just not that fun dealing with that kind of wind resistance. I can totally get it for racers doing short spurts, but all I personally want is the ability to deal with potential vehicle speeds on non highway road systems which mostly top out around 45. Otherwise my preferred riding is generally off-road and trails where I care a lot more about torque than top speed

[@Padel84287]

True, the other important factor is good controllability of the euc

[@SonofDarnell]

Hsiang speaks so elegantly and thorough I'm sometimes mesmerized by his mastery and depth of his knowledge ❤

[@idowheelie8598]

Now that we've surpassed the 50 mph mark four EUC I would like to see manufacturers concentrate on waterproofing and other safety features. As more speed at this point is just going to make it harder to get them legalised and accepted by the state!

[@Corn8Bit]

God I would love a TRULY waterproof wheel. I leave my car in the rain outside all year, I should be able to leave my PEV outside in the rain overnight a few days without concern

[@polochai6664]

​@@Corn8BitEuc is small .Why should i let it outside sévèral days?😊

[@-JohnSmith-]

Don't know what country you're in but in America everything's legal unless there's a law outlawing it

[@macswanton9622]

What you do for the PEV community is vitally important, and of a truly high standard. I still wish you'd work in the occasional bloopers

[@OWGAC]

Thank you!! hmmm.. will look to see if I have any fun bloopers to share!

[@TheThunderwars]

Any wheel capable of reaching 90km/h with a safety margin is more than fast enough. You'll go there probably once "to see" but will spend most of you commute going 50-60 max. That's what I did in my beginings, but now I notice that i rarely go to 70 at all on most trips and I would absolutely give some speed for more torque ( I don't mean torque access, I really do mean torque, I routinely make my master skip some magnets under braking and I'd love to know that there is a wheel that won't let it happen).

[@lefotografion]

The Lynx has just as much torque as the Patton, and won't skip when braking. That's why I want it

[@-JohnSmith-]

I want to be able to keep up with city traffic so 50 mph at least, maneuverable enough to navigate dense city traffic and strong enough suspension to be able to take 5 foot drops and climb stairs, so for me the Lynx is perfect

[@MisterRipper]

I love my Extreme, but for sure waiting to see what the CGT Pro is going to deliver.

[@superfly99206]

The swappable battery idea is great, along the same lines I wonder if it is possible to switch battery size with the same wheel to fit the kind of riding I'll be doing, for example if offroad riding a smaller battery for a lighter/easier riding wheel, then switching to a higher capacity battery for some long distance riding....wish I was smart enough to know if that is even possible

[@guirob01]

I think that all new wheels like the Lynx will be a great all around wheel that will perform well everywhere. Not everybody can afford 2 or 3 wheels to suit every need, so the Lynx could be the answer😊

[@ionflow1073]

You're a trooper Sean. I know how cold it gets when it rains in NYC. I'm looking for my next wheel. Before the Lynx came out, I had my heart set on the Patton but now I'm thinking about the advantages of a larger wheel that doesn't weigh almost as much as I do.

[@billhilt]

Where can see euc races ? That clip you showed from Brooklyn looked awesome. BTW you passed me on my v8 on Queens Blvd a few weeks back . Not sure how you move those monster wheels in and out of the subways . Thanks for the videos very well done !

[@jurijstorozuk6170]

Honestly? The progressive tiltback on the v13 where you cannot actually physically overpower it sounds very cool. I mean it's basically simular to a car: everything enabled you are safe, turn stability control off and you are on your own. Same should apply to eucs, where the wheel just doesnt allow you to go faster until you enter race mode.

[@Vikas-fv8rv]

Nice! Hsiang bringing his A game as usual.

[@Lowlandeuc]

Thanks , great waterproof film, I hope to find some races in Europ.

[@edcampstore965]

Thanks for the vid Hsiang. Crazy. My first EUC in 2019 was a 20S, 84V. 18XL….Now we’re exactly double that with the 40S 168V GT. Can’t wait for that voltage to double again. That would put EUC’s on parity with Tesla voltages for some serious Blade Runner action!

[@BruceWayne15325]

The difference between an EUC going 50mph and one going 60mp is just the length of the blood smear left behind when the rider cuts out, or otherwise has a malfunction. As a commuter I only care about safety, waterproofing, and range. 35-40mph is plenty of speed for me.

[@AfeezKayeRIDES]

Oh oh oh .. he is back 🎉😅

[@OWGAC]

LOL =)

[@d_skrilla6479]

Was just thinking of you the other day man hope all is well. Still my fave euctuber!

[@Semajeshorter]

People complaining about speed and size don’t know that a lot of people come from motorcycles like myself I don’t kind the size or speed I’m exited to see what they do in the future

[@OWGAC]

I am super curious to know what it'll be like if any of these company ever built a larger 30inch wheel at an even higher voltage, something the size of a small motorcycle. I'll ride the heck out of it!!

[@Ingothnia]

I want an EUC that can do everything pretty well, be small in size and weight, and not need a mechanic to service it. That's why I love my S18 and V12HS.

[@OWGAC]

I was just telling someone that I want a modern version of my IPS i5; a EUC that's the size of a laptop would be awesome!

[@Corn8Bit]

Bro the s18 and v12 are some of the most annoying wheels to disassemble. Begode is king for ease of repair. I like my s18 other than that

[@volvlov759]

⁠@@Corn8BitThey aren’t too bad, IMO. I guess my point is more that they are maintenance free, for the most part. Many of the new wheels come with oil shocks, so now you have to worry about leaks, seals, changing oil, etc. I like the simplicity of the older wheels.

[@CapitalWheeler]

Great rain. It means a lot. Don't shy away from that.

[@scottsum1319]

Aero drag is REAL & the last 10mph would take another big leap in power, as much as 30-40% &or perhaps even more as a man on a wheel is a brick in the air. IMO more volts would give more accel but likely not more speed, unless one is a 20lb muffin. I think 60mph is the limit for now

[@eekenulv]

Love your videos .... kind of addicted to your voice and style 😁

[@TaiLegend]

Calmly: ROLL THE INTRO!! O__o!😂

[@mcfly_ev]

How do you feel about the 62lb suspension at your weight?

[@OWGAC]

on the lynx it actually feels a little bit too stiff! since its 15lbs lighter than the sherman S.

[@phmiii]

It was raining Super Hard! I hope you do not get sick.

[@tonydeveyra4611]

You mentioned Gogoro in the video. Do you think it would make sense for a company to design an EUC that uses the gogoro swappable batteries? It's got a long history of durability and performance, but would that pack form factor work for an EUC or is it too blocky?

[@OWGAC]

that battery is not really the right shape for EUC, but I can totally see an EUC company makes one that is. If you look at all the recent wheel release, all their packs are roughly the same size! the biggest advantage of the gogoro system is that you constantly swap your batteries and it is always being monitored by the charging station.

[@jaefrmbk2k]

so glad you get to test@least some of these pre-pro wheels. you're so intelligent about this stuff 💪🏾 55mph max seems perfect & they should focus now on ultra-light/waterproof highly capable, smaller suspension wheels with less range for shorter jaunts/rides. i believe there are Loads of potential buyers like me that while Intrigued, are not tryna ride for 2.5 to 3+ hrs straight Anywhere lol & think ALL these wheels are wayy too f#$%& heavy 😅

[@VedatAkrilik]

5:42 heyyy first of all. Focus on the road

[@timrideshotshot]

I have a commander pro, and I have been looking for a suspension wheel. the issue I see industry wide is the focus on just raw speed. for me personally its range, whey can't we get a fast wheel with 100 miles? I like the lynx but the battery is on the small ish side. the v14 adventure has fast charging, but terrible range. Id like an all weather wheel, and the more I think it over the lynx seems to be the best fit out there.

[@kirbyscovers]

Great video Hsiang - That Lynx looks like the best overall wheel so far for street, off-road, looks, weight, suspension and probably has enough speed and range for most riders ... have you tried seated on that wheel and is there any bluetooth? ... Not a deal breaker for sure. A wheel that tops at 60mph ... for me ... gives plenty of head-room when my speeds hang in the 25-35mph range. Wonder if Hydrogen batteries are on the horizon for EUCs.

[@gingerdude94]

Im looking forward to the S16

[@ChristopherBriggs-j7x]

cheers,no fear in the rain. I think power and speed are needed. I modded my storm scooter to hit 73mph...dont need it but I love it . Whats a good euc for a newb? Iam a quick learner and not wanting to buy a cheap one then move up. I want to hop on and go ,with suspension and fast lol.

[@peterrusso7336]

I just pray governments don’t find out the newest wheels. I don’t want to have the same thing that happened to future motion to happen to eucs. Or worse

[@MB-yw7up]

Then they should try to stay close to City highway speeds max out at 55-60mph. Going above that that's when the cops will start reporting things. When reports are coming in that's when the government steps in

[@Jukeboxandi]

What do you think of the range between the Lynx, V14 and Sherman S in comparison?

[@mgtowlevel5293]

Yes

[@OWGAC]

sherman S will always win since it has a larger battery pack at lower voltage, my guestimate is that it'll have at least 30-50% more range.

[@Jukeboxandi]

@@OWGAC Ok, thanks so much :)

[@MrDarkBenjamin]

Hi Hsiang, which wheel do you use the most on your daily basis?

[@OWGAC]

for now its the Lynx!

[@AereForst]

I think you need better head protection. Great info, thanks

[@kayakell9200]

Thanks for Soohan track. I looked him up and bought "Baltimore" from him. Cheers.

[@WheelGoodTime]

I love your format. I've been looking for a good gimbal myself, what do you recommend?

[@charleskieser9740]

The Lynx will be my second EUC. I learned last summer on the Patton, and I am having a great time. I had a order in for the V14, but switched it to the Lynx after there have been so many problems with the pre production V14's. I am looking forward to your full review of the Lynx. I am especially curious about the difference is suspension between the progressive springs in the Lynx and the Patton's fast ace. Also, I love the pedals you sold me for the Patton, they are great.

[@cooperarmstrong4493]

I'm about to get my patton coming this Feb as well, and it will be my first wheel as well. Are there any tips for a newbie?

[@charleskieser9740]

@@cooperarmstrong4493 I started on grass and then progressed to riding on pavement. The right footwear is critical, my performance on the Patton was drastically improved based on the shoes I wore. The boots recommended in this video made me instantly a lot better. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4S9iaCfestlhbMsi=R0cBocsj6O2XSOuL I also use foam bits inside my knee pads to make a nice soft edge to grip the Patton which helps too. There is a video on my chancel about this. The Patton is super fun, and has been an awesome first wheel for me.

[@OWGAC]

Glad you enjoy the pedals! so far the Lynx has been excellent, its an 18inch wheel with the torque of an 16incher, which is pretty nice, I haven't ridden the V14 yet but I suspect that I'll lean more towards the Lynx since its not so tightly restricted as the V14

[@charleskieser9740]

@@OWGAC My Lynx is supposed to arrive on the 26th of Dec. They were out of knobby tired ones, so I am going to give the street tire a try. I have never ridden a 20 inch wheel, or a street tired wheel, as the Patton is my first wheel. I am looking forward to the new experiences awaiting me next week.

[@charleskieser9740]

@@OWGAC One question, will your Pedals for the Patton also fit on the Lynx?

[@laowai1973]

Was that you at lotus wake park in Kaohsiung?

[@BRyeEUC]

15 minutes was the agreement Hsiang.

[@tomspencerful]

Three weeks ago Roger posted a video of himself doing 65.4 mph (as indicated on Lynx screen).

[@kaygee1623]

That was on the EX 30.

[@tomspencerful]

I stand corrected. Thank you.@@kaygee1623

[@nativeme2143]

Imo going over 70kmph on EUC with regular traffic is just insane. Remember breaking distance at such speeds becomes INSANE which means it is unsafe (not for you - for other participants of traffic, who don't want to be hit by speeding EUC). Though Lynx seem to be very good balanced wheel with a lot of safety headroom. Begode - as always, in panic took some garbage from backyard and assembled something with better parameters "on paper" and removed reasonable safety limits just to be "the best"... we'll see next cutouts, firmware fuckups and shit quality.

[@BegodeCrashtestdummy-l3z]

I do 90kph you just get used to going fast the master pro is such a beast of a wheel I can throw it around like my rs now 🤷🏻‍♂️definitely looking forward to adding a GT pro to the collection unless they come out with a 168v c40 master pro

[@JaradVonNguyen]

I think I'll stick with my light t4/a2.. these big ones tend to feel less fun

[@Corn8Bit]

Have you tried other wheels besides your 2 wheels?

[@curtflirt2]

I miss the Bob guy too. I keep asking around what happened with his situation there, it was so sudden

[@RitaElaineHeltonBarker-uz4sz]

That one time you forget to watch the weather forecast before going out to ride Your unicycle

[@OWGAC]

LOL, I don't need the forecast, it'll rain as soon as I pull out my camera!

[@KevinRedmondWA]

That speed limit on the V14 is what’s going to kill it. I accidentally hit 45mph all the time on my Sherman suspension.

[@Roskellan]

Higher voltage doesn't necessarily mean faster. To go faster you need to draw more power. To draw more power you need a bigger battery pack. You can arrange a battery pack with cells in parallel and series for higher voltage and less current, or higher current and less voltage (W=VI), the resulting power available remains the same. If you want more power then you will need a bigger pack.

[@skampster]

What’s your Patreon link?

[@nyconeroll]

When’s the Lynx demo ??

[@revolutionaries-Today]

Good video ... I am confused ... isnt it called the Commander GT & Commander GT PRO ... Oh well IDK & i am not getting one as I am Rolling this time with Veteran & the LYNX :)

[@OWGAC]

Its call the Commander GT pro I think, the Commander GT is just the commander mini with an 18inch wheel I think, super confusing

[@revolutionaries-Today]

@@OWGAC Thanks mate you make some of the best videos & I live 60 miles south of you on the Jersey Shore. Keep up the great reviews and video ... My lynx get here on the 28th so I cant wait ... Merry Christmas

[@tremartin4727]

They got the new commander pro that can go 60 plus then they got the new commander gt pro that can reach 70 plus mph

[@tremartin4727]

Then they got the regular commander pro that can go 50 plus

[@malerightsusa]

The commander gt can go 80?

[@martinsaunders2942]

The new higher voltage wheels need to be treated with extreme respect..Something that riders need to be very aware of is that DC Voltage at higher values..ie 120 volts and up at higher amperage are literally lethal and can very easily kill someone. Frankly, 168 Volts is very stupid. Some years ago I worked on a vintage 140ft motor yacht that had a 120 Volt DC electrical system..sadly we had a crew member very seriously injured by taking a shock from the system. Treat these wheels with great respect, especially when working on them.

[@arthurrobey4945]

You've got to make a stand somewhere, unless your Daddy is Elon. I have no regrets with my KS 22 Pro. The bigger wheel makes it stable at speed and it's hill climbing abilities are real-world. I'll wait two more years before I buy again. (Unless, of cause, there is some Quantum jump in quality, which I cannot foresee.)

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

the lynx should easily be able to go 60mph based on freespin speed and theoretically the gt pro should hit 100mph or maybe even more. we just don’t know how much wind will affect it at that speed but 80mph seems to be low balling it. also worth noting that there have already been 60mph eucs like the ex30 and master pro

[@OWGAC]

from my riding experience so far, the Lynx doesn't feel like it can do 60 unless you're in an ideal/ windless condition. I did a few rides on open road/ windy days and it starts to feel very sketchy when you go past 50mph.

[@VECTOR_Coasters]

@@OWGAC that might also be because leaper kim dampened the performance but I don’t know. you should be able to get a wheel to about 10 miles an hour less than it’s freespin speed in real world conditions if you push it hard enough.

[@unloveableandre]

Begode A2? One year later, nobody is talking about it. Nice, let's review only the EUCs that are important for yourself. Great!

[@erictestard4484]

Bonjour merci à toi

[@teddy_123.]

nice

[@MrMalaman]

I want a 16inche lynx😊

[@leeteemtb9587]

I prefer to borrow than burrow 😅

[@julsride3596]

What drama? Roger and roning? About how fast it goes? How can it be drama?

[@TheNazradin]

as a beginner waiting on the v11y tonake it out here.

[@Kingyoutube88]

The master pro does 60MPH

[@OWGAC]

People have done 60 before, Master was the first I believe. But it really requires ideal condition and someone with a whole lot of skills and guts to push a wheel that far. what I like is a well balanced EUC that let you push 60mph within its safety margin, and I am not sure if one exist just yet (or is even possible).

[@wutruriding1355]

I want my next EUC to fly. That’s all I want and then I’ll finally be satisfied.

[@polochai6664]

😅I think we already fly

[@nomadmusk]

didn't roger get it to 65 mph? He had a whole video

[@OWGAC]

I thought Roger did 65mph on his EX30 in race mode?

[@nomadmusk]

@@OWGAC oh my bad, I thought the video was about him testing marty's wheel.

[@suppahero9861]

I came to the conclusion that i dnt like heavy wheels its gotta be less than 70lbs lol

[@grb1969]

Great video, and thanks for bringing up controversial topics related to the deluge of disorganized designs that are new to the market. {tl;dr. I'm more interested in USED wheels because of this... even though the V14 has potential.} The wheel company that gets my business has "non-proprietary" swappable batteries, non-proprietary pedals, no pads whatsoever (most people just get custom pads anyway) and maximum aftermarket shock/suspension compatibility. If these companies cannot collaborate in order to grow the industry and overall customer base, then it's unlikely that any of them will succeed in the long term. Until then, I'll continue to support the EUC community by purchasing only used wheels. Wasting money on incremental evolutionary changes only creates an environment where consumers will stick to their tried-and-true wheels; mostly because their batteries are model specific, which is neither profitable for the manufactures, nor financially sensible for most riders. A video (or fifty) on the cost versus value of USED wheels would be welcome. This type of video (which has dozens of subject possibilities) might be valuable to the EUC rider community. We all have wonderful stories about how giving and grateful our relations have been with people within our community; and this type of diversity in content may encourage loyalty that would encourage use of affiliate links, when the 'design-volatility' in the marketplace subsides and buying a quality, long-lived EUC becomes more rational. {The V14 is a step in the right direction but it should have had 8 battery modules insted of 4, and the suspension should have been hydraulic in the forks AND linkage in the rear- making the first dual suspension EUC. Lastly, there is a good design rationale behind having two independent suspensions for the same wheel... basically the system can be set up to optimize use for two distinct ranges of use; one for drops and sharp hits, and the other for plush street cruising, for example.}

[@cobbles62]

Wat about practicality? I absolutely love to see to what extremes people can take an EUC but for acceptance by the general public I believe we still haven't seen the perfect EUC. * The first big obstacle, to be accepted by insurance companies. Perhaps it is better for now to avoid the need for insurance completely. Perhaps it will be generally accepted If an EUC is seen as a nothing, as roller blader or to a normal person without any devices. That might be possible by keeping the speed of an EUC below the fastest typical speed a healthy young person can sprint, which is about 15 mph. Yes I know this is slow compared to what is possible, but it's quite fast compared for a person running 2 miles to the train station every morning. * The second obstacle would be safety. For what I can see the only way an EUC can be made safer is by making the wheel bigger as well as lighter. Even suspension would help with navigating pot holes and bumps. Most importantly the motor in the wheel will have to be designed/tuned not for speed but for power at low speed. An +18 inch wheel built as light as possible with lots of power and suspension to overcome bumps, but tuned to coast no faster than about 15 mph, that's what I would love to get.

[@bambanyaviews]

Just something you should change, the statement that you have managed to waste another 15 minutes of our life, I don't like that statement. Yeah I know it is supposed to be sarcastic and funny with a comic effect but damn, my brain doesn't take it that way. That is the con in almost all you videos, otherwise great work on euc content.

[@TheGameTease]

Damn bro, be careful. You almost ate sh!t at 5:40. Your not a pro EUC rider. Keep your eyes on the road at all times! Shesh. . .

[@tomnoyb8301]

A $7k US tax-credit is available at 7.2kWh battery, which is only double Sherman's battery. This rider wants to go touring on EUC, but as big as Sherman is to Taiwanese, it's still way too small for US. This rider pushes Sherman Max's weight restriction and only gets 70mi (~100km) on its tiny 3.6kWh battery - insufficient for touring. Scooter weighs 220lbs (100kg) and has to be picked-up occasionally, so why is 220lbs too heavy for EUC? Everyone knows 3.6kWh is best-in-class, so why not produce a 7.2kWh, tax-certify and sell it for $9k? Who among us wouldn't pay $9k (with uncle-Sam rebating $7k) for such a EUC? Leaperkim would then double their per-unit Sherman-profit, plus an extra $1k on each unit. It's win-win.

[@MB-yw7up]

The Gov would catch that really quickly

[@grahamkearnon6682]

Sure hope Begode goes bankrupt.

[@MRtreeguy904]

I am irritated watching you ride yours in the rain I have never ridden mine in the rain and just the humidity has made the control board go out on my patent I have had more water damage with that piece of crap first the light went out with water in it and now the control board is going out with water in it I think they threw it in the f****** River before they shipped it to me

[@ironorion8888]

finally! inmotional ceo was useless