If both in their prime you start Vermeulen and Spies is in the bomb squad
@stefannieuwoudt47829 ай бұрын
Spies was good but Duane is a legend. I believe they both played for the Boks at the right time. I don’t think Spies beats Duane in the past 2 world cups because of the type of game we played which was quite more defensive. Sure if we were running all the time, Spies… but that just wasn’t the game we played and getting a ton of high balls back where we were dependant on rock solid defence, turnovers and limited mistakes - Duane’s the man.
@GlitchedVoid579 ай бұрын
Spies was a genetic freak of an athlete. He was a Wing in the body of an 8. Duane was the perfect 8. Strong, big, imposing ball carrier, mobile and agile. Duane was the better 8, SPies was a better athlete. However, I pick Duane at 8, and you can put Spies on the bench or somewhere like Centre.
@craigmorgan46769 ай бұрын
Difficult but probably Spies an absolute unit,serious ball carrier!👌💪🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🏈🏈🏈🏈💯💯💯💯
@C9-mu4wr9 ай бұрын
Who else thinks Duane for the best No.8 of all time though??
@RugbyNow_9 ай бұрын
He did have it all, power on attack, lethal on defence and a great leader as well.
@skibbitybopmdada9 ай бұрын
Thor is the ultimate package, the mold for the modern eight man. Spies is a next level athlete.
@RugbyNow_9 ай бұрын
Who you starting and who you benching though?
@reinhardthuman35659 ай бұрын
Yeah man totally agree 👍
@ntsikandamase9 ай бұрын
@@RugbyNow_Duane starts, beats people up, tenderize them, steals balls and Spies comes when everyone is tired and runs the show
@khayasontsele89848 ай бұрын
Vermeulen is a more traditional Number 8, and better suited to the position. Spies was an unusual physical specimen for the position. Both were great Springboks. Vermeulen just shades Spies. Spies would have been devastating with Rassie as coach, particularly in the Bomb Squad running at tired bodies.
@RugbyNow_8 ай бұрын
Love these thoughts. Thank you 🙏
@silentlocal9 ай бұрын
Spies was fast, Vermeulen was powerful.
@rudierasmus81629 ай бұрын
im always going to pick Spies
@christiaandutoit10949 ай бұрын
both magnificent
@gravyfish46849 ай бұрын
Spies for impact Vermeulen for consistency.
@mountainman91459 ай бұрын
Vermuelen is the answer to this question. The best Bok 8 of the professional era.
@markbruce76749 ай бұрын
Spies..perfect no 8
@zanekessler96289 ай бұрын
Both, 1 for bomb squad and one for starting
@jonathanfurno90049 ай бұрын
Piere Spies!!!💯🎉💪🤝
@richardshort23879 ай бұрын
Pierre Spies
@akhonabukula76229 ай бұрын
Vermeulen was very powerful and smart, he could bulldoze a defense line and still be able to offload while being tackled, dangerous 8. Spies was 3x because he was powerful, very smart, he could read the field just like a backline player and he could easily gain ground because of his fast pace, you could put him at number 12 or 13 he would do the job. Spies was ❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
@kristian7629 ай бұрын
Spies is a Legend, but I'd take Duane. I think he brings more to a team
@RugbyNow_9 ай бұрын
Has the leadership aspect as well
@JulianaZito6 ай бұрын
In terms of defense and aggression Vermeluan but offense and speed Spies. Spies at 111kg ran 10.75s in 100m
@riccardopiccaluga91033 ай бұрын
Duane Is the best
@johanriekert34629 ай бұрын
DVM highlights are all in test matches. Spies highlights are club games.....in the big test matches Duane is the better player.
@noyonuls65219 ай бұрын
Spies
@johanterblans82669 ай бұрын
Once Spies juice wore off and he could not refill, he was just average! Vermeulen all the way!
@christiaan21822 ай бұрын
Spies owned Duane back in Super Rugby. Spies everyday of the week
@davidevan39569 ай бұрын
Both good ,and truly legends
@robsargent88019 ай бұрын
DVM NR8 - Spies NR14 (Spies could have prolonged his career at wing and would have been right up there with Lumo as one on the greatest ever) - dont get me wrong he was a awesome 8 but I think at wing he would have unstopable
@parabat9 ай бұрын
Spies and Kwagga in a Bomb squad of 7.
@TheBliksempieАй бұрын
It's not about the player, but about the unit. Spies, Danie Rossouw, Victor and Bakkies were top class and because of this they were the better unit. Vermeulen with Kolisi, Etsebeth and Pieter Steph Du Toit were also top class, but in this group Vermeulen had to play the hard man role, where Spies could play the role of the finisher. Spies is unequaled in world rugby and he not got sick, he would have been a legend that rivaled Jonah Lomu.
@AgrestchaosloverV2 ай бұрын
Spies is in the bombsquad vermulen starts
@francariglino3 ай бұрын
Big Duane all day
@Pieter-DeWaal9 ай бұрын
Forget your sentiments. On the evidence of this video, Pierre all the way. He is way more difficult to stop and he makes more meters.
@robsargent88019 ай бұрын
turnovers by DVM won many tests something Spies was not good at
@stevenbennett97569 ай бұрын
For me Vermeulen, just more consistent
@rugbywhisperer-coachkane30389 ай бұрын
Vermeulen easily... Spies was just a long range ball carrier and at times cover defender. Vermeulen was way better at Breakdown steals, high ball management, in a world cup final he's the best. Spies was a Super Rugby Player
@stefwessels9559 ай бұрын
Duane for sure💪 our best
@yeahbuuudddy63343 ай бұрын
Vermeulen, he's more consistent and dependable than spies. Spies was average in the wet. And would mess up catching the high ball occasionally. Dwayne was on point Mr consistent. Spies has freaky solo trys though
@fibbernatchie9 ай бұрын
if only Spies had Thors mongrel
@Champ-vids9 ай бұрын
Well said
@kihara42449 ай бұрын
Thor all day, every day for the full 80. Spies should have been converted to a 12, although his defensive abilities might have counted against him
@bottomeyeview27679 ай бұрын
Spies was a deadly 8th man. Powerful, exlosive, fast. He started playing 8 late but still was one of the best on form. And nothing wrong with his defense.
@Mostlycars8889 ай бұрын
Thor every single day of the week!!
@dewaldcarstenstimberfoxfir76049 ай бұрын
As jy Vermeulen in Spies se lyf sit, is hy stukkend binne 2 minute...
@johannesfourie85529 ай бұрын
Thor 10/10 Spies 7/10 Thor had a much longer in SA than Spies.
@jpgous6759 ай бұрын
Spies was a absolute beast and definitely amongst the best of the best 8s. But Duane... he was called Thor for a reason... that man had godlike 8 qualities.
@jacoetsebeth1509 ай бұрын
Thor!!!!
@mtnstrand28199 ай бұрын
They were both excellent nr 8's. Vermeulen slightly the better of the two imho.
@docarw9 ай бұрын
Duanne every time
@TFARM569 ай бұрын
Just like eben has now passed bakkies BOTHA the original first generation enforcer ..thor has done the same.........
@martinvermeulen58589 ай бұрын
Duane any day and twice on Sundays!👍👍
@LockedDownSpectator9 ай бұрын
People forget how, towards the end of his carrier, Pierre Spies was now a punching bag for how he was soft and did not have the testicular fortitude for his position.
@Snaker6769 ай бұрын
Daymani is like spies strong and fast
@sollyferreira73529 ай бұрын
Gary Teichman
@Malesela-x2h9 ай бұрын
If u truly believe spies was better than thor then quit watching rugby
@NasiefaIsmailGourrah9 ай бұрын
Hands Downs Duan Vermeulin .
@QuinMighty9 ай бұрын
Spies was highly overrated. Lazy at the breakdown and scared of contact. Vermeulen the obvious choice.
@kevinowen48249 ай бұрын
Spies steroids. He will remain forever tainted as a result