SPRUCE vs CEDAR Classical Guitars Tone Comparison | Klassische Gitarre Fichte oder Zeder?

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Comparison of SPRUCE vs. CEDAR classical guitar sounds made by Cim Frode at Siccas Guitars. He compares a spruce Armin Hanika 1a Torres classical guitar with a cedar Armin Hanika 1a Torres classical guitar.
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@gb8327
@gb8327 4 жыл бұрын
Remember that the optimal number of guitars is one more than you currently have, so the elegant solution is simply to get one of each...
@jjson775
@jjson775 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Rozas cedar top and a Hill Hauser with a spruce top. For a long time I preferred the cedar top but now, after it aged, the Hill sounds better.
@reyne8424
@reyne8424 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for understanding!
@billionaire1228
@billionaire1228 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for good comparision content!! I have both of them too I love bright treble of sprues & deep bass of cedar
@topneorej
@topneorej 3 жыл бұрын
Of course you need at least 5000$ to reach your optimal number of guitars XD
@ianrena1
@ianrena1 3 жыл бұрын
@@jjson775 Oh no, so the topics spreaded along the internet about "Cedar may deteriorate its sound when it aged, while spruce will sound better, is true??
@scottzorc9693
@scottzorc9693 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar sounds darker,more mysterious and romantic to me. Spruce sounds brighter, livelier and clearer. For me, romantic songs on the cedar. Lively and energetic songs on the spruce.
@glennlubomirskynovitch3254
@glennlubomirskynovitch3254 4 жыл бұрын
I ' thouroughtly agree with you
@adlib8096
@adlib8096 4 жыл бұрын
Like bach and scarlatti on german spruce and villa lobos on cedar?😉 🤓
@damanyou
@damanyou 4 жыл бұрын
i agree as well!
@nat.serrano
@nat.serrano 4 жыл бұрын
Best response
@lizdelisle1912
@lizdelisle1912 3 жыл бұрын
Scott Zorc I agree with you completely.
@gerhardbinkele3753
@gerhardbinkele3753 4 жыл бұрын
Jump directly to Marieta 'Mazurka' (Francisco Tárrega) CEDAR: 0:59 SPURCE: 1:45 Spanische Romanze: CEDAR: 2:34 SPURCE: 3:10 3rd piece: CEDAR: 3:48 SPURCE: 4:27 CEDAR: 5:07 SPURCE: 6:02 Villa - Lobos - Prélude No. 3. (not the beginning, mid-part!) 5rd piece: CEDAR: 6:58 SPURCE: 7:58 El Testament D'Amelia (Trad. arr. Miguel Llobet): CEDAR: 9:01 SPURCE: 9:46 ... my personal favorite is still the spurce - but as always - "it depends...". 😉 By the way.... very good performance Cim Frode !!! 👍
@nicksalter3954
@nicksalter3954 4 жыл бұрын
What is the third piece? It's lovely!
@bandotube
@bandotube 4 жыл бұрын
Gerhard Binkele day
@tobyrogers3810
@tobyrogers3810 4 жыл бұрын
@@nicksalter3954 I would love to know also! If someone knows please comment
@nicksalter3954
@nicksalter3954 4 жыл бұрын
@@tobyrogers3810 I was able to track this down - it's called Forest Rain by Cim himself
@damned1156
@damned1156 3 жыл бұрын
Spurce?
@palitolitola
@palitolitola 4 жыл бұрын
I love both !!! Each one has its own special voice and depth for specific situations. It’s great to have the opportunity to check the difference coming from such a great player.
@lizdelisle1912
@lizdelisle1912 3 жыл бұрын
I love dark wood, so my guitars are both cedar. I was thinking about a spruce guitar in the future, but after hearing these two guitars in your demo, I think I'll stay with cedar!
@johnlay3040
@johnlay3040 2 жыл бұрын
I have a spruce and cedar too. But it was not until I bought another spruce one that I realized what I had been missing. Period music sounds better on spruce, but Romantic on cedar.
@louiscyfer6944
@louiscyfer6944 9 ай бұрын
​@@johnlay3040i have had cedar for the past 30 years and just got a double spruce top rafal turkowiak and it has blown me away. my cedar top brazilian rosewood back and sides guitar is comfortably resting in the case now.
@johnlay3040
@johnlay3040 9 ай бұрын
@@louiscyfer6944 I have a DT with spruce outside and cedar inside. DT is a guitar with a very different personality. It is loud and outgoing. It is a kind of guitar that you cannot stop playing until your finger joints start to ache. But the normal Spanish guitar has its own beauty. I have Spruce Kohno and Bernabe, and Cedar Asturias guitars which I equally love. I play them in rotation. Don't keep a guitar in the case for too long without playing it, because it might become blotchy underneath the varnish.
@csnelling4
@csnelling4 4 жыл бұрын
As an older person, the spruce is for me and my hearing. The sound of each note is brighter an clearer than the cedar but both are good in their own right. Nice playing thank you 👏👏👏👍🇬🇧
@bh69videa
@bh69videa 3 жыл бұрын
yes, cedar is interesting at first but a bit too muffled, there is something a bit "dirty" in sound for me compared to spruce which is more like "clear air". And spruce will be better with time :-)
@ManwithAx
@ManwithAx 3 жыл бұрын
Spruce each note has clarity but can seem brittle especially in upper registers. Cedar is warmer but can be muddy and muddled.
@bradleymoyer5236
@bradleymoyer5236 Жыл бұрын
What’s the song at 5:08
@FlorentinoGarcia-rx3hs
@FlorentinoGarcia-rx3hs Жыл бұрын
I like the brightness and clarity of the spruce however for me the balance & warmth of the cedar top throughout the range wins it for me. Great job!
@daimon7779
@daimon7779 4 жыл бұрын
The cedar have more emotional sound, for me.
@MasterofTongs
@MasterofTongs 4 жыл бұрын
Simply put, cedar is soulful, and spruce is sunny.
@IlyaGontmacher
@IlyaGontmacher 2 ай бұрын
So, either a shot of bourbon or check the weather, and then pick up guitar?!
@pieterlabuschagne7507
@pieterlabuschagne7507 5 ай бұрын
In your hands both sounds fantastic!!
@pinewaves
@pinewaves 3 жыл бұрын
For this particular demonstration, I prefer the Cedar. It just a warmer and brighter sound to my eyes. The look of both guitars are fantastic!
@bradleymoyer5236
@bradleymoyer5236 Жыл бұрын
What’s the song at 5:08
@tuftyaurelius9062
@tuftyaurelius9062 5 күн бұрын
@@bradleymoyer5236 Part of a prelude by Heitor Villa-Lobos. No. 3?
@DanielOliveiraViolao
@DanielOliveiraViolao 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite is Cedar, on song and looks. Very good comparison!
@deanpenny8456
@deanpenny8456 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar is immediately warmer but a bit muddied, whereas Spruce is clearer and brighter, but will mellow given time. I suspect these guitars are relatively young? But has to be Spruce for me.
@lucagallerani131
@lucagallerani131 4 жыл бұрын
I agree
@ww3032
@ww3032 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new here. Does it mellow only if you play on it, or does it mellow even when left on the shop shelf by itself?
@dordoby1979
@dordoby1979 3 жыл бұрын
@@ww3032 if you play on it of course
@jeffhedges848
@jeffhedges848 3 жыл бұрын
@@ww3032 The consensus is that aging is essentially the loss of fluid from the wood’s cells. Heat and vibration accelerate the process, though it still occurs naturally. Interestingly, keeping a guitar in a sealed environment (its case), would limit this greatly. We now have artificial methods of achieving that as well as the time-honored method of playing (see Torrification, et al).
@ww3032
@ww3032 3 жыл бұрын
@@jeffhedges848 wouldn't the loss of fluid make it dry and brittle though? And thats why they tell us to keep the guitar away from the sun or warm places.
@joeldespain3597
@joeldespain3597 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar for personal performance and recording. Spruce for concerts, I think it will be heard more clearly in the hall.
@percipience2758
@percipience2758 2 жыл бұрын
You made them both sound so nice, I cannot decide. One passage seemed to please my ear more with spruce and another with cedar.
@Goku17yen
@Goku17yen Жыл бұрын
I think both are also 9-10k guitars which probably helps a lot regardless of the top lol. Personally I think the spruce sounds better here
@TA-SEN
@TA-SEN 3 жыл бұрын
bravo, great playing. The cedar is beautiful by itself because it is full and warm sounding. If I were recording classical with more instruments I would use the spruce because it would stick out more and leave more space for other instruments. But just in its own the cedar is phenomenal!
@konstantinoskoutsoukos7815
@konstantinoskoutsoukos7815 Жыл бұрын
I agree completely with you
@jkelly2478
@jkelly2478 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar strikes my ear as soft warm and romantic, whereas spruce has a hard clarity which strikes my ear harder.
@robertsen7268
@robertsen7268 4 жыл бұрын
I like ceder better. The sound is much warmer. The look isn't important to me, it's only a matter of taste. By the way, you are a brilliant guitar player.
@MrNurutomo
@MrNurutomo 4 жыл бұрын
I like spruce
@datdang9113
@datdang9113 4 жыл бұрын
I think the cedar guitar in this video sounds just as warm. These 2 guitars are expensive, I can tell from the sound and both sound great but for cheaper ones like Cordoba C5, spruce version sounds a lot better
@rineric3214
@rineric3214 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your CLEAR and well-punctuated and probably proof-read message. I haven't been able to afford to have my luthier make one yet, but the experiment will go through as soon as I can afford it. The two different woods may not join well or some other unforeseen problem will manifest, but it could be something good. The fact that it isn't popular yet doesn't dampen my enthusiasm for the possibility.
@juanortiz7745
@juanortiz7745 Жыл бұрын
This is not fair, you made both of them sound just beautiful.
@WilliamJohnston
@WilliamJohnston 3 жыл бұрын
In all but one of these demos I preferred cedar (I preferred spruce in the Villa Lobos example, possibly because that's what I expect to hear when I hear that piece). As others have noted, the spruce here sounded dry, a bit thin, and to my ear notably shorter sustain in the trebles. I know this is something that many argue comes with time (I have experience of a spruce guitar opening up nicely), but it's one of these 'gambles' guitarists take on the promise that a guitar will 'some day' get magically better, and I feel is often abused by people selling them. Whether it's spruce or cedar I'd still strongly promote ensuring you connect with the guitar you're trying for what it is now rather than waiting, hoping it will drastically change.
@attilakovacs5803
@attilakovacs5803 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot decide. Both are amazing guitars, the examples are lovely and the player is a brilliant, sensitive guitarist. The cedar guitar is mellower, more serius, a bit woody and rustic sometimes, the spruce is cleaner, a bit more fresh and playful, but this particular spruce guitar has shorter sustain than the cedar guitar. The actual tone also depends of the player's touch. I must note that I've never heard a cedar top guitar with so bright ringing trebles.
@juliantosi6478
@juliantosi6478 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar forever
@locngo
@locngo Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal performance. I ended up buying both.
@dennisaguirre297
@dennisaguirre297 3 жыл бұрын
So, are you recommending me to buy both of them? I'll tell my wife.
@dimbulb5441
@dimbulb5441 4 жыл бұрын
Each would compliment compositions in their own specific way. They both sounded great.
@johnlay3040
@johnlay3040 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best comparison I have ever come across. Thank you. Both woods have their own beauty. It suits different mood. But not all spruces are the same. There is a big difference between German spruce and Engelmann. Also between Sitka and the other two.
@spectrumifs
@spectrumifs 3 жыл бұрын
Very subtle difference between the cedar and spruce. Cedar is more mellow almost like it has a natural slight reverb built into the wood. Spruce is brighter, sharper with distinct note separation. Both are nice. Great playing!
@andrewdewar8159
@andrewdewar8159 21 күн бұрын
I loved your playing, spruce sounded brighter to me but it sounded beautiful on both guitars, the playing stood out more than any tonal differences.
@lenmusic123
@lenmusic123 4 жыл бұрын
In this video, I have a preference for the spruce as being more defined/detailed, but yes the cedar is warmer overall - both guitars are wonderful! I am about to buy a Hanika :)
@rersr
@rersr 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the beautiful demonstration. I'm a jazz player with asperation to play classical. Both sound great but the cedar sounds rounder/bigger to me. I'll buy the cedar.
@bradleymoyer5236
@bradleymoyer5236 Жыл бұрын
What’s the song at 5:08
@epipen22
@epipen22 3 жыл бұрын
They both sound great. That is why I need one of each.
@gcswargari
@gcswargari 2 жыл бұрын
I like both Cedar and Spruce. Beautifully played and enjoyed all the pieces.....👌♥️
@weaselpopper
@weaselpopper 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce tight and clear projection great for playing with others. Cedar warm and full great for solo playing.
@Billbobaker
@Billbobaker Жыл бұрын
I like both equally and they are very different. Cedar is darker but lovely spruce is very bright and loud.
@StephiSensei26
@StephiSensei26 2 жыл бұрын
Nice demo. Been playing Cedar all these years and it's only gotten better with age. My new guitar has a Spruce top. Can't wait to have the choice. Thanks.
@curtisfouracre
@curtisfouracre Ай бұрын
Thankyou for this very helpful demonstration. To my ear, the spruce has bright and clear articulation of each note (particularly the higher register). It is sharper and has greater clarity. The cedar to me sounds warm, mellow and dark. It has greater sustain and in my opinion has more character, richness and complexity. I recently had my classical guitar constructed with cedar because its the tone I prefer when I play. When I listen to the two side by side in this video, the cedar is more pleasant sounding to my ear. Ultimately this is what each person should base their decision on. I also prefer darker woods in general.
@51Dss
@51Dss 4 жыл бұрын
for the purpose of this comparison the cedar was more pleasing to my ear. The spruce seemed a bit sharp - a touch too bright although incredibly articulate. The cedar has much better balance top to bottom and articulation was perfect. Videos like this always leave me thinking about how I could never buy one because they are very high above my range of affordability...but I watch the video anyhow because I very much enjoy the music that comes out of a high quality guitar in the hands of a talented and skilled player.
@andrewthomas7544
@andrewthomas7544 3 жыл бұрын
Having had a cedar since the 1970's, and being very used to the 'mellow, honey' tones, I wanted to get more of a 'bright, earthy, raw flamenco' type of sound, with a brighter bass, not so woolly, so I went for a thinner body, spruce top Ibanez, amplified through a CUBE practice amp. Wow. I'm totally hooked!!
@asdfjklol
@asdfjklol Жыл бұрын
This is the best comparison of it's type on KZbin. Well done.
@michealleeyoung4482
@michealleeyoung4482 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar for me,louder and sweeter,spruce less volume but sweet,too.
@pascalamat8873
@pascalamat8873 16 күн бұрын
2 magnifiques guitares, à la première écoute j'ai préféré le cèdre et à la deuxième écoute l'épicea, ayant remonté le voume sonore de ma chaine stereo...Vous jouez avec beaucoup de sensibilité et je pense que l´épicea vous correspond à merveille...
@fuji3112
@fuji3112 4 жыл бұрын
I have a spruce one so I wanted to say “Spruce”, but after watching this video I want to get a cedar one. Both of these have good points. What I only know is Mr.Cim is great.
@braulios3386
@braulios3386 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha in mi case is vice versa, i have a cedar one and now i want a spruce one
@QueenJeremy
@QueenJeremy 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favorite is Cedar, because of the brown, smoky look look it has. And when it's combined with Indian Rosewood back and sides, MMMM! I love the color combination. Especially when it's glossy. I also like the warmer sound it has to it, but mostly just the looks. My ideal guitar would be a Cedar top, with Indian Rosewood back and sides. I liked your video, very nice.
@nogoogleplus
@nogoogleplus Жыл бұрын
Man that 1st piece is great, never heard that one before….beautifully played
@alanturner3551
@alanturner3551 4 жыл бұрын
For me, the cedar is much warmer and more intimate. Much to be preferred for a classical guitar.
@skyemoz6559
@skyemoz6559 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce!!! Bell like tones. Clarity. Cedar is nice but a bit muddy and plasticy on the treble strings. But both are great. Just comes down to what you prefer. Best to own one of each! Great playing
@dstdenis01
@dstdenis01 4 жыл бұрын
Nice playing! Good selection of excerpts for comparison too. They both sound good, and I'd be happy to own either guitar. I think the excerpts that tended toward a naturally brighter sound because of how they were written sounded better on the cedar. Likewise, those excerpts that tended toward a naturally more mellow sound because of how they were written sounded better on the spruce. It's like the brighter spruce guitar made the mellower tunes sound better and the more mellow cedar guitar made the brighter tunes sound better. It's like opposites attract to produce a better result. The interesting case is what happens when you play a bright sounding excerpt on the brighter spruce guitar. Is it too bright? No, I think it still sounds good, and it seems it's possible to take off some of the brightness with technique so the sound isn't too ping-y. But what about a mellow excerpt on the mellow cedar guitar. Is it too muddy? In this case, yes, I think it does lose some definition and clarity. I think one could compensate by playing with a brighter, clearer articulation, but this might be more difficult to accomplish than taking brightness out of the sound of the spruce guitar. For that reason, I would prefer the spruce as an all-around guitar, although I think they both sound great.
@jonathankrieger9121
@jonathankrieger9121 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know the name of the pieces he played? They were all wonderful. I'm new to classical guitar...
@jtelevenoyd1571
@jtelevenoyd1571 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's my aging ears or my background in steel-string guitar, but to me the spruce sounds better defined and more balanced between treble and bass.
@NestanSvensk
@NestanSvensk 4 жыл бұрын
I did not expect to be able to hear the difference, but now I'm Team Cedar for life!
@vernonlacey4217
@vernonlacey4217 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this interesting video. I always like the sound of top quality spruce. In my personal experience it can create a special clarity and separation, and if played with finesse can produce the sound of a cedar. OK - I have played a Bernabe 50 and this was a very special guitar I thought no spruce could emulate. Aesthetically the spruce guitar for me wins. Great playing - very evocative!
@LizardLoungeRadio
@LizardLoungeRadio 4 күн бұрын
Gorgeous guitars and beautiful playing. It's really hard to tell although I'm certain the cedar was a little warmer.
@markus-hermannkoch1740
@markus-hermannkoch1740 3 жыл бұрын
2:34 an honest thanks for actually comparing using 'Romanza'! It gives amateurs like me a familiar point of reference.
@StevePedersonOfficial
@StevePedersonOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
Well, the logical conclusion is that you'd need one of each! Some songs lend themselves very nicely to a more mellow sounding guitar, others to a brighter sounding guitar. I like spruce for its "honky" midrange. It's got attitude. The cedar in these examples, except for the last one for some reason, seemed to have a muted midrange. It almost felt claustrophobic. After that, the spruce felt like I was coming up for air. On the last piece, though, definitely the cedar. Thanks for the comparison and the beautiful playing!
@kaori-3882
@kaori-3882 Жыл бұрын
I love both and it is interesting to hear when Cedar is made brighter like in your video - Nemanja Bogunovic performs his composition "Valse Amoroso" on a 2022 Teodoro Perez "Especial"
@snowfiresunwind
@snowfiresunwind 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent video and beautiful playing by Cim. I'd have one of each please!
@VALLAERION
@VALLAERION 4 жыл бұрын
I definitely feel a more tense feeling in my heart with cedar, spruce makes my heart more jolly.
@xoxb2
@xoxb2 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer cedar, not just in this video but in real life too. It is, as others have said, warmer, but I also find that it sounds purer and more piano-ey. Spruce, as in this video, sounds a bit stringy, it has the same issue you get with steel strings that the instrument comes between you and the note, whereas the cedar is pure and immediate.
@강창훈-o5t
@강창훈-o5t 10 ай бұрын
0:59 ceder 1:46 spruce 2:34 ceder 3:10 spruce 3:49 ceder 4:29 spruce 5:08 ceder 6:03 spruce 6:59 ceder 7:59 spruce 9:03 ceder 9:47 spruce
@JoseOchoa-dw9vk
@JoseOchoa-dw9vk 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce is my choice. I would like a video comparing lattice double top versus traditional tops.
@brianbowersox8392
@brianbowersox8392 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I love the way both look. I typically am drawn more to cedar when I hear it, but it really depends on the style of music being played.
@W1NGXER0
@W1NGXER0 4 жыл бұрын
The spruce appears to be brighter and seems to have somewhat less sustain. The cedar seems to resonate more and appears to have less clarity.
@michaeldavidrubin8823
@michaeldavidrubin8823 4 жыл бұрын
Well, I've always preferred spruce, so that is just one man's view. Also, although the idea of this comparison via video is useful as education for us all, it really is just one more sonic experience that is "translated" by audio engineering (not a criticism). So, one must play & listen, to form one's preference, in real time, live & in person. Again, very nice thought; & quite beautifully played by Cim Frode. Worth more than one listen.
@JumpingJimmyJet
@JumpingJimmyJet 4 жыл бұрын
They both sound beautiful, but I like Ceder, it sounds warmer and melodic. I think that Adagio or Romantic would sound better on the Ceder. I feel that the Spruce sounds brighter, more outgoing... Thank you so much for this comparison. I'm going out and looking for a nice Ceder made Classical guitar now ;-)
@zeinmrshd5753
@zeinmrshd5753 4 жыл бұрын
Don't go out!! Stay home!!! For your and our safety ♥♥
@Shiv-amuktha
@Shiv-amuktha 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeinmrshd5753 haha
@Lolux1701
@Lolux1701 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the people like me who prefer cedar are in the minority.
@JumpingJimmyJet
@JumpingJimmyJet 4 жыл бұрын
@@zeinmrshd5753 HaHaHa, I'm not worried. I'm not sheepish and don't drink cool-aid ;-) Also, I'm a doctor
@walterbeekman9825
@walterbeekman9825 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes when you pick up a guitar it speaks to you. Music just starts flowing and you know that this is the guitar. I prefer the sound of the cedar. It sounds more Spanish to me. The Spruce has brighter, clearer trebles. Spruce is probably louder.
@stairwaytoheaven413
@stairwaytoheaven413 22 күн бұрын
Great comparison ❤ I always prefer cedar top on nylon guitars.Warmth,more airy,color resonance.Spruce top great too.
@rabirabi924
@rabirabi924 4 жыл бұрын
When i read or hear someone say "ceder is warmer then spruce" i start to doubt that they didn't own a CG with a spruce top for a long time and trust me a good quality CG with a spruce top will sing like an angel😇.
@ClassicalPan
@ClassicalPan 4 жыл бұрын
I suppose it depends on your definition of "warm". Cedar is generally warmer than spruce, but that does not mean that it is better. Just like spruce being brighter or more focused doesn't mean it's better.
@ThePdxster
@ThePdxster 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the richer look of the cedar top, but by far the sound of spruce. Thank you so much for the comparison!
@sonnydangol7909
@sonnydangol7909 3 жыл бұрын
I like cedar because color matches the tone darker rounder and more earthy .. cedar is like a father and spruce more like a teenage daughter
@rineric3214
@rineric3214 4 жыл бұрын
I want to make a dual-wood guitar with cedar on the bottom for bass response and spruce on the top for treble. Cedar is the bass wood and spruce is the treble wood.
@BS38114
@BS38114 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I have seen something like that on a Ukulele with Koa-Mango
@ClassicalPan
@ClassicalPan 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean cedar inside and spruce outside? Jeff Sigurdson does that with his double-top guitars.
@rineric3214
@rineric3214 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalPan No, but what a cool idea! I never thought of that. Traditionally, guitar tops are two separate pieces glued together. Two well-matched cuts of spruce OR two well-matched cuts of cedar. I am proposing one cut of cedar that would rest on your leg and one cut of spruce that would be close to your face. Cedar is good for bass. Spruce is good for treble. Best of both worlds. Jeff's idea is way cool, too. Double-top like Elvis? Manuel Ramos?
@ClassicalPan
@ClassicalPan 3 жыл бұрын
@@rineric3214 That's an interesting idea. I'd never thought of that. I'm guessing it doesn't work since we haven't seen it. 🤔 Many luthiers do double-top guitars now. I'm personally not a fan of them, toneally, but they're great for touring guitarists because they remain toneally consistent in any climate.
@paul_domici
@paul_domici 4 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of Spruce! It's brighter, crisper and louder, Bit I think Cedar looks beautiful!
@eppynt
@eppynt 3 жыл бұрын
The dynamic range and note separation of spruce bests cedar every time for me
@WhaleBluePRS
@WhaleBluePRS 7 ай бұрын
what a great example of "the right tool for the job". It's fairly easy with electric guitars to have a well-stocked "toolbox" and choose the right instrument for the music. Would that it were that easy for music in the classical guitar realm!
@dagsundin
@dagsundin 4 жыл бұрын
I have both a cedar and a spruce guitar. I use mainly the spruce guitar for baroque and music till F. Sor but my cedar for romantic and new music. I prefer though the bells on the spruce guitar - clearer sound. The looks of my cedar guitar is better, I prefer the darker time.
@patrickdunavan9113
@patrickdunavan9113 4 жыл бұрын
It all depends on the individual musical piece and the mood that you are projecting. Each sound beautiful in their own way. I have cedar...but now I want both!!!😂
@JDrwal2
@JDrwal2 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar - no doubt Spruce sounds kind of dry, less depth in the tone.
@steveb9325
@steveb9325 4 жыл бұрын
I need two guitars on stage. One Spruce, one Cedar. Depending on piece .... Cedar for Barrios Spruce for Bach when I'm good enough to play both those composer's. Ha.
@Filete
@Filete 4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful played. Cedar always sounds warmer and it's the first i pickup for recording. P.S - If your other half asks to cut your thumb nail, don't do it!
@johancolson2678
@johancolson2678 4 жыл бұрын
I like spruce more than cedar because it sounds brighter. When I choose strings, I always go to the brighter ones. BTW you are a very good guitar player.
@daliborkosar1178
@daliborkosar1178 4 жыл бұрын
To me Spruce is both pleasant to hear and look at. Clarity of sound and natural wood tone is my preferred choice.
@thuytrangle5515
@thuytrangle5515 3 жыл бұрын
Normally I prefer spruce to cedar but in this video I prefer the sound of the cedar. The luthier made this cedar guitar sound bright and clear, there are bell ring sound in high notes
@fguimara
@fguimara 4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the sound of the abeto (spruce), which is a little brighter and also sustains the sound longer than cedro (cedar). That little difference touches my soul deeper. I wouldn't know how to describe it better than that. In addiction, I think the looks of spruce is more beaultiful, as well.
@sachaburki8535
@sachaburki8535 Жыл бұрын
agree with sound, but not sustain. Cedar have morec sustain, thats why most players took spruce instead of less good sound.
@LL4love
@LL4love 4 жыл бұрын
Cedar is my favorite. I like the low tone
@williamdunlap-ro3ct
@williamdunlap-ro3ct Жыл бұрын
I think Cedar is brighter, but what do I know. I am a drummer. I just bought one of each wood. Cordoba and Takamine. I like both the looks. Wish I could play like you. Getting better. Swapped my Les Paul Standard for a Taylor Acoustic Electric 200 Series in Sunburst. Can't believe I did that but no regrets. These acoustic guitars are addicting. I have Strats and Teles ready to go but I have learned to love acoustic. Never thought I would say that.
@martinmartin7480
@martinmartin7480 4 жыл бұрын
Love spruce sounds more. It is more focused fundamental, clearer note separations, less attenuation, penetrating despite less volume and has more characters. If you like fuller sounds of course cedar wins, if you like projection spruce is better
@josejcastaneda5826
@josejcastaneda5826 3 жыл бұрын
I have a Kohno # 10 with spruce top, built in the 70’s. It is a wonderful sounding guitar. I bought a production La Patrie Collection with Canadian Cedar. I played them both, but, not a lot. I had put them both away for over a year. I didn’t play them at all. I decided to get back to those guitars and I was very pleasantly surprised by La Patrie. I bought it new 4 years ago and now it has opened up. It took 4 years for the Cedar top to open up. It has more volume, clarity, harmonics and richer tone. Now I prefer the tone of that Cedar top. I guess Cedar can take a lot longer to open up. But, when it does, you will very much notice it. It will make you think that you have a totally different guitar. As far as the volume, I think the spruce top sounds like it has more. But, it is just that the brilliance cuts through a lot more. That very same brighter tone in the spruce might not let you hear a deeper, darker, richer tone that the cedar might offer you. I mean that is what I have experienced in the last 4!years of owning both tops.
@landismaitland-whitelaw5040
@landismaitland-whitelaw5040 4 жыл бұрын
Spruce has always been my favourite... they say that cedar will alway sound the same. as spruce will age over time.
@huikwanyuet2001
@huikwanyuet2001 4 жыл бұрын
in this video,,,,,, spruce sounds less muddy and better
@lumella4228
@lumella4228 3 жыл бұрын
I love spruce! It's more lively, because it changes with the player :) For me, spruce is also better, because it isn't as direct as cedar 'cause I play very direct too. My guitar is a Hanika CF 58 and I'm just addicted to her^^
@jarthurpaxton9223
@jarthurpaxton9223 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for this! Well done. I'll only say as one more acquainted with flamenco that spruce is best suited for that. Perhaps cedar is preferable in general for classical styles.
@nicolasgarcia7305
@nicolasgarcia7305 2 жыл бұрын
Abeto - spruce always, it is just brighter then cedro- cedar. Great video!
@prandallwright1
@prandallwright1 Жыл бұрын
I purchased a cedar top guitar because is fits my personality. Spruce seems to make itself known both in sound and appearance. Cedar is quiet, yet present.
@2011Noud
@2011Noud 4 жыл бұрын
It also depends on the piece played what would be your favourite wood for the soundboard. I did a lot of comparison between the two and besides that different luthiers: Eladio Molina - Vicente Arias - Salvador Ibanez - Julian Gomez Ramirez Juan Estruch - Jose Ramirez II - Jose Ramirez III - Higher end Telesforo Julve - Antonio Duran Ferrer - Antonio Marin Montero - Manuel Contreras - Francisco Esteve Concert - Thomas Prisloe and my conclusion: They all sounded a bit like "me"! But a nice performance anyway!
@johannbach2725
@johannbach2725 4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating comparison! Normally I prefer spruce but actually I think the cedar guitar here sounds richer and fuller...
@bronx7886
@bronx7886 2 жыл бұрын
It is the creamy richness of the spruce that grabs me everytime.
@AlfredoJornet
@AlfredoJornet 8 ай бұрын
I much prefer the clear articulation Spruce gives, yet preserving depth in the lows. But the cedar one sounds delicious in your hands too, Thanks
@mattelliottmusic
@mattelliottmusic Жыл бұрын
Beautiful playing and nice choice of music
@Diego_SoundDesigner
@Diego_SoundDesigner 5 ай бұрын
Great comparisson!!!!
@dangrather1280
@dangrather1280 2 ай бұрын
I had to watch a few times because I kept getting lost in the music and forgetting to compare the sound.😂 In the end I will just buy one of each. They are both great.
@eaman11
@eaman11 3 жыл бұрын
I think Cedar sounds better on slow pieces with interesting articulations as it can blend stuff together and fill the spaces. Spruce is for faster stuff, when you need clarity and focus for precise structures. Cedar can get muddy and blatant, Cedar can get shrill and frantic. OFC you should have both. Compliments to the player, yet I think he prefers Cedar.
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