Spyderco Real Vs Fake Knife - Para Military 2 - Para 3 / Counterfeit Copy Chinese China

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Clones are so close, that I have completely stopped buying used.

[@fuccyahhat1229]

No kidding

[@sdriza]

exactly

[@whatfreedom7]

Good idea. I just got hold of a fake para 3 used on eBay. The one I have has bearings in it and is more convincing than this one.

[@guyincognito215]

@Kyle-sr6jm my clone is absolutely perfect for all purposes, and at 19e, it's not even a contest.

[@Sway1177]

US brands simply need to stop overcharging. A Para 3 in D2 or 8CR13MOV I would 100% buy for 50-80$. 120$ plus for the lightweight and 160 plus for the G10 is insane. They are making enough of a profit on a 20-30$ knife with packaging then there's no excuse for Spyderco.

[@Alex-zm3xb]

Totally agree! Today China produces nice copies - 9Cr18Mov, G10, ballbearings.., only for 20-25$... Yeah, the original one is better, but the price is approx 200$ (in Europe)...

[@EZ_Case]

You get what you pay for. I would rather pay $150+ for a better quality knife than $80 for something subpar. I guess everyone’s different.

[@Chinhnguyen0497]

well. The quality of Chinese steel cannot be considered good, like flipping coin. The quality of US steel is much better and the heat treatment is better than anything china does. Like you paid $200 for 8cr13mov and you know it is 8cr13mov, but you buy an 8cr13mov knife from China for $80, do you know it is real 8cr13mov? There are many knife brands in China with very high prices. You pay for prestige, not only the knife itself

[@rcjoe406]

Your reading my mind reason I started making my own guitars American needs to get a reality check

[@sdriza]

I like Spyderco cuz they will experiment with other steels that most knife makers won't touch... I don't mind paying a bit extra to encourage their research/experimentation

[@Spurrific13]

As soon as American companies outsource their products to China, the Chinese will copy it…and they’ll get better with each iteration. It’s a catch 22. You reap what you sow. Keep everything in house and never gouge your loyal customers. I’m happy to pay $40 to $80 for a quality pocket knife. Anymore than that is just gouging unless it’s made of gold. Get real, it’s steel that gets beat up if you’re using it for it’s intended for.

[@lombro1262]

C'mon, the proudly made in USA argument doesn't hold water anymore. The fact is that many genuine Spyderco models are indeed made in China like the Tenacious, Resilience, Persistence and many others. And while the genuine PM-2 is US made and comes with better steel, it still doesn't justify the ridiculous prices they're asking, especially for those who live outside the States. Maybe I'm a cheapskate, but I don't have $450 NZD to fork out on a daily use knife. So yes, the Chinese clones make a lot of sense, even if the steel is a little sus, it's still excellent value for the money. And besides, nobody in their right mind is going to believe they are actually buying the real thing at fifty bucks or less, right? 🤨

[@ronaldmercer9616]

I agree with you buddy , I have numerous American made knives ,they're all overpriced and the clones make good beater knives for the tree work I do , as far as Chinese products being inferior, Chinese were experts in metallurgy a thousand years ago when eastern Europeans were still hunting with rocks and stones 😂

[@lombro1262]

@@ronaldmercer9616 Yeah, and you know you're paying too much for a knife when it cost more than your Stihl chainsaw.

[@guyincognito215]

Correct. These are tiny little differences for a big difference in price. I have a replica and it's really good quality

[@MishaelSandoval]

I agree made in the USA isnt the same anymore, different times. Work ethic and pride isnt the same. It all about cost manufacturing and charging more for it. Some "real" spiders are made in china. So i just ordered a C81 para with micarta. 😊 . Ive been happy with kershaws , qsp penguins, civivis, cjrb, all made in china . Save your money.

[@willtrax71]

I found the easiest way for me to tell so I don’t get Screwed on eBay again is your can feel the Spider on the Fake and on the real Spyderco you can’t feel the Spider at all since it’s Laser instead of Stamped on. Great Video my Friend thank you

[@Chillygilly88]

Is that 100%? Because I just got a para 3 cruwear with the purple scales and my knife is identical to his. All except the position of “CPM cruwear”. Mines is really close to the left edge. But everything else is perfect. Oh and the package is off. I know he used the wrong box & papers cuz it doesn’t say cruwear & the gold logo is off. But it’s a used knife off eBay. I’m conflicted lol

[@willtrax71]

@@Chillygilly88 Spyderco Laser Engraves there Logo and no you can’t feel it whatsoever but you can send Spyderco Pictures and they can tell you. If you have a Knife Shop close by stop in and check out other made in USA Spyderco Knives .it may be Legitimate but every one I’ve looked at you absolutely can’t feel and logo on the Blade, the Sal and Eric Logo either but do some research so you don’t lose Hundreds of dollars.

[@johnruiz6743]

They need to get that counterfeit crap off of Ebay.

[@CrimsonSurvival]

That’s true

[@sdriza]

impossible to tell now - unless have time to examine cant tell from Ebay pictures

[@Ryantomada-e8h]

Thank you for this video. I bought mine on Amazon and didn't watch this video for over a year. It's always been in the back of my mind because I knew that there's some fakes but I got a real one, thank God 😂

[@steverodgers8035]

How clean is the Spyder hole ? Mine has lines that look like it was drilled out

[@cvltzilla]

thats normal , alot of mine look like that.

[@roboticd]

Absolutely normal

[@reconrc1787]

Great info. I really appreciate your side by side comparisons but my issue along with many others, I'm sure. How is the best way to spot fakes in the field if you don't have a real one with you? If I was to put a syperco in your hand, could you identify if it was real or fake? If so, what is your go-to method?

[@olafkliemt1145]

i don't think that somebody who buys a fake 20 USD Spyderco causes any damage or loss because they would not have bought the original version due to the price. the fake Spydercos come in 440C and D2, older models in 8Cr. decent heat treatment surprisingly. of course the materials cannot compare, but fit and finish is fine and they do their job.

[@MikesMedia]

The damage is when someone buys a fake for over $200 when they think it is real. I just saw a fake $20 Demko knife bid up on eBay to over $200.

[@MikesMedia]

People are paying $200 for the $20 knife because they are being scammed. The point of this video is to help avoid that.

[@John-mf6ky]

Tempted to buy a fake pm2 just to mod and save some money. I do own a real para 3 in s45vn though.

[@subspaceanomaly]

@@MikesMedia that's a shame if people a buying fakes without realising. I've replaced a lost real one with an affordable clone and can't tell a difference, and couldn't afford the 10x higher price.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

For the new market, clones only cause purchasing to be limited to authorized dealers. For me, the real damage is the 2nd hand market. Clones are now so close, that second hand, the risk makes all knives the value of a clone.

[@EthanMiller-e5g]

What the difference between getting an American Spyderco and a Chinese Spyderco?

[@radusnyder4341]

Like a legitimate Chinese Spyderco/Byrd (they make knives all over the world) or clones? Real Chinese Spydies/Byrd are still held to a standard of good quality control, they have good grinds and serrations, but the steel is not as high grade usually, though they have done S35VN Tenacious, for example. They aren't as perfect in fit and finish as an American, Taiwanese, Japanese or Italian model. But they will serve reliably and sharpen easily. Fake Chinese Spyderco clones are unpredictable, no clue what the steel is, no clue about heat treatment or temper. Action doesn't compare in my experience. And they're stealing the research and development that Spyderco put in for these knives to be created. So, they feel gross.

[@roboticd]

The models available. Models made in the US are not made in China.

[@Chinhnguyen0497]

I need quality comparison. material, hardness. the look doesn't say anything

[@69barnet]

I always buy Chinese clones knifes,still do same job.

[@radusnyder4341]

Until the lock fails on you because it's made out of car bumpers.

[@69barnet]

@@radusnyder4341 Haw will failed, if I use it as regular knife? I don’t do any abusing experiments. Probably you know Bird knives,lower price of Spiderco knives, they’re made in China to.

[@ExaltedWarrior]

where do you buy them?

[@GaryWiens-c8o]

I appreciate the informative video. With the black para 3 the dark background and the blueish lighting made it difficult to see everything clearly though.

[@ChristopherRobin58]

Very helpful video! Thank you!

[@mattblack133]

Good stuff bro!

[@minimalist8477]

Almost perfect in appeqrance but difference in blade hardness.

[@ammana6553]

Not true lol, alot of the time it's the same steel.

[@69barnet]

The best test is the price. Real one is threes times expensive than fake one.

[@angruwasp8782]

The new fakes have been getting better. Some have even starting to accuse older Pm2 models as fake, just because the lasers edging and quality was off slightly. You can still tell them apart by the quality. The original always looks sharper on the metal edges and the fakes look soft and more organic. I have a original CMP S90V PM2 from 2010. It also has a more faded brownish spider logo. Depends on the age and the steel.

[@MementoMori1001]

What about the performance of the fake knife?

[@honolulu3d]

Fake is better, Chinese are just better and smart.

[@pullingthestrings5233]

🤣

[@PaddyThePole-t2z]

I prefer buying clones, quality is so close and they getting better. Spyderco is well overpriced imho For the price of genuine one u can buy few clones.

[@DerJuergen3111]

"The spider is little darker" this will be 100 dollar please

[@Greenmachine305]

For the price, if the fake steel is even close to decently treated 8cr13MOV, its a no brainer.

[@conspiracy8119]

I’ve seen Spyderco on Maxamet steel for $99. Is that probably fake?

[@radusnyder4341]

Where did you see it? Maxamet from Spyderco is always stonewashed, the fakes don't do that, and fakes almost always just use the CPM-S30V marks no matter what the fake is. I've not yet seen any sprints cloned, luckily.

[@conspiracy8119]

@@radusnyder4341 I have seen someone selling it on eBay. The price was red flag cuz it’s too good 2 b true.. I forgot what Spyderco knife was it, but I do remember it was a Maxamet steel

[@roboticd]

Yeah, Maxamet is a pain in the ass to work and takes way longer to complete than any of the other steels

[@vicpnut1]

Doesnt spyderco have a chinese made line ? Actually on their website forumn there are discussion on the difference in their chinese, Taiwan, usa, and italian models ….most say chinese is basically just “less” fit and finish but otherwise same quality ,same quality of metals (which is the important part imo ) ..I don’t know anything about fakes ,which is sort of why im watching this i guess but your black knife comparison didnt seem too different …the second set were two different metals ..meaning I don’t know if two different blades makes for good comparison…..so now im totally tortured trying to figure which spyderco to get 😂

[@Klusk91]

Would love to see how long the edge can last on that fake.

[@pullingthestrings5233]

Fr we need an update

[@Christ-is-King-]

Doesn’t spyderco make Chinese knives?

[@radusnyder4341]

Yes, their budget line and Byrd knives are made in PRC. These are still held to good standards in their factory over there. Serrations are just as good, locks trustworthy. These clones are not the same thing. They just have to look the same. Clones are pretty awful, though, in more ways than one.

[@ericmack001]

You are missing out on some high quality knives. Spyderco is more than fair. Benchmade is an American knife company that over charges. By purchasing clones you are only hurting yourself. For a company to copy Spyderco knives there must be a reason!! Spyderco knives are high quality at an affordable price. Spyderco has been around for a long time. Their knives are highly collected and cherished by their owners. Fake products never come close to the real thing. Another thing that I love about Spyderco knives is that they are always razor sharp right out of the box!! I learned to sharpen knives just to maintain that razor sharp edge. Good luck to you. Hopefully one day you will see the light!

[@stevenicholas5651]

You're wrong on so many levels i dont even know where to begin.. If these knives had an affordable price, there wouldn't be clones of every model, hahaha. You're wrong there. They are price gouging! They are selling you polymer and tool steel for the price of gold! Tell me something... In what world does a folding knife cost more than an AR-15?? That's pure insanity considering the amount of manufacturing that goes into an entire American made rifle! These knives are simple and CHEAP to manufacture. They cost cents to make and are churned out on automated cnc machines by the thousands! Clones are 95% of the same fit, finish and function at 1/20th the cost... You're paying for what exactly with that extra money?? Oh, that's right... You get a little more edge retention... 😂😂😂 Hopefully one day YOU will see the light...

[@ericmack001]

@@stevenicholas5651 If you do not buy quality products you will never know the difference. You only cheat yourself. I try my best to buy quality products to see the difference for myself. Bootleg products are garbage that taint the reputation of the original brand that is being copied. If you worked hard to build a brand you would not want to be copied and ripped off