Spyderco Sage 5 Lightweight Folding Knife - Overview and Review

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[@StuckSeatpost]

Re: the sharpening choil, Sal G. has explained their stance: 1. It can snag in certain situations 2. It's easy enough for the user to add themself using a file or dremel tool if they really want it 3. Most importantly, it serves no actual function. If you want to sharpen to the very beginning of the blade against the finger choil, you can do so. If that's too tedious for you, you can leave that beginning portion unsharpened and it will be functionally the same as a sharpening choil (small section of blade by the finger choil that doesn't cut).

[@coralinealgae]

I went with option 2. It was easy to do. Was very careful and took it slow. Took less than 30 minutes with tiny diamond files.

[@KaiMastaK]

In my view, there is only one reason for a sharpening choil, aesthetics. With a choil, it's hard to tell have much steel has been removed via sharpening. On a Spyderco's it's very obvious how much steel has been sharpened away.

[@norwd]

Saying that a sharpening choil has no function is the biggest tell that you’ve never free-hand sharpened. Nothing against using a clamping system or sending your knives off to get professionally sharpened, but blanket statements like that are just untrue.

[@karltang9590]

The "spyderco sage" badge on the handle is where the pocket clip touches the handle. It's probably there to reduce the friction when you want to pull it out from your pocket.

[@RobertOrtiz1015]

You are correct

[@lorenfuchek105]

I own the para 3 lw and the sage 5 lw . The sage 5 is in my pocket 5 days a week at work. One of the best edc knives IMO.

[@bendyinkdemon3094]

Which would be better if you have medium to large hands the Para 3 or sage 5? Or are they more then same I wanna get one of the two and idk which one to get

[@lorenfuchek105]

@@bendyinkdemon3094 they are both about the same really size wise.

[@_MiMo_]

Pretty cool what Spyderco did with the Sage series, highlighting the innovations of the knife industry with a whole family of locking mechanisms.

[@dannyt6798]

Hey Complex.. so the emblem on the scales is a landing spot for the pocket clip. Makes going in and out of pocket really smooth.

[@bobbymayo4797]

I came 2 say the same thing

[@IronsWHU]

Same!

[@IlliniDog01]

The Sage 1 with the laminate CF was the first higher-end knife I purchased. No regrets on that one.

[@rickychiurc]

Saying Hi from Hong Kong here. Particularly enjoy this knife review because of your Taiwan is NOT china comment!

[@yankee2yankee216]

Taiwan is the FRIENDLY, DEMOCRATIC China, an entirely different story from mainland China. Taiwan is, BTW, the original, pre-Cultural Revolution government, somewhat evolved I would assume. I say this not to you, but to the many Americans who don’t know the difference. Correct me if I got something wrong!

[@yankee2yankee216]

I just purchased a Sage 5, the one with the compression lock. I’m not wild about the FRN, so, as is my habit, I installed better scales. Parsons fluted titanium scales! They are beautiful, and much better than FRN. I’m a big Para 3 fan, so I thought I might like the Sage. I haven’t received them yet, but I’m pretty sure I’ll like it!

[@yankee2yankee216]

The Sage tip does in fact look a bit more sturdy than the Para 3…

[@chadrasmussen418]

This has just reinforced the fact that I want to add this to my collection! Next paycheck is already looking a little smaller 😂

[@SOMNIOHM]

Good Video! Albeit extremely subjective, & to each their own.. Imo, YES! yes indeed better than the Para3. Remember that ®Spyderco was developed, and built upon the "classic" leaf-shaped blade! For this reason I'm a bigtime Native, Manix, & Chaparral lover as well! The Native & the Sage are literally "staples" in the ®Spyderco lineup/brand. I also truely believe that there is no better "all around" edc/performance blade shape. The "Caly3" | "Caly3.5" were the same type of way, in that they were VERY similar, and viewed as the "higher end" variant of the Sage. Indeed, the Sage's design is the epitome of perfect. In any case.. this was a great video, and really nailed everything I would/could have said! Stay safe & Take care✌

[@joshcarr9922]

Well said! I agree.

[@SpyderTime]

Much better than the Para 3 lightweight, not even close. The standard Para 3 is a good knife but not this good. 😁

[@manifestgtr]

I know this might be considered a boring, middle of the road spyderco in certain circles but good god, man. It’s a reeeeaaallly good middle of the road spyderco. Mine is utterly flawless. The action is perfect, it feels substantial but lightweight, the locking mechanism is smooth and the ergonomics are dead on. It easily outclasses my para 3 lw in just about every category.

[@daverock00]

I bought my first Spyderco today at a local store and it is the Sage 5 carbon fiber and mannnn… it is perfect! It is so comfortable and I am loving the compression lock. I’ve got a bunch of other popular brands like benchmade, Mkm, hogue, kershaw, Kizer, etc but for some reason in my knife collecting addiction I’ve waited years to buy a Spyderco! This is going to get expensive

[@bassplayer1586]

I just got the peel ply carbon fiber sage 5 and will be acid etching/ stone washing the blade, adding blue titanium hardware and a blue titanium lynch clip to it. Fit, finish, and action/centering were all flawless out of the box.

[@Greg-jm1nj]

That Sage badge on the scales is where the pocket clip lands. I would bet that is to keep the clip from tearing up your pocket and it’s on both sides for the reversible clip. Not the most visually appealing, but at least they addressed it. Just something I noticed while I was watching. Love your reviews! I have watched my collection grow with quality knives thanks to you!

[@howardlam7443]

Agreed, Sage 5 LW and my benchmade m4 bailout are my top two EDC knives. I believe the LW has the new pivot bushing, but the stupid laminate sage 5 does not. I wish they sold one with at least s35vn steel and g10 scales. Also as was pointed out, the spyder logo is the contact point for the wire clip so it isn't too rough for the pocket.

[@tylerbunch6021]

Got in early! I love the reviews keep up the good work ~ I may have to go check one of these out.

[@bahjinelson3986]

I used to cut a lot of fabric where I work and the sharpening choil caught all the time which was super annoying and the liner lock knife I was using closed on my hand when my thumb caught on the lock bar; that's when I bought my Sage 5. It was a great upgrade and the price was low enough to use it at work without reserve. (The knife I was using was the Leatherman Crater and I was cutting upward through a giant sheet of breather cloth and a sheet of peel ply, both with cured resin on them so I could run a strap through to remove it all)

[@JohnPatterson-freakage]

Probably my fav Spyderco. Can't get past the "wounded pelican" shape of the Para 3 and others. I love my Native but think I like this one better and will have to get this one.

[@Spartacus-hc9xt]

Yes

[@shakyzeg]

I have seven Natives. I have only carried this knife and a Benchmade valet for the past 3 years. I wish this came in other metals. I have around 100 knives. This is my "one." I didn't stop buying knives, but many of them have been sold as well.

[@AdamSmith-ys2vk]

My Sage 5 LW is everything I wanted in a Spyderco and the only one I own. I didn't want to dip my toes into Spyderco and try a Tenacious or one of the other budget options. I wanted to get the best Spyderco I could afford and the Sage 5 LW was that knife hands down. This is all coming from a left-handed user. I find the compression lock easier to manipulate than any other lock style short of an Axis lock. I just let the knife rest on my fingertips and use my thumb to work the lock.

[@ellusionistninja]

Yo, as a left handed user I’ve found that the absolute best way to close the compression lock is as follows: While it’s open, in your left hand, and in a normal grip, you’re gunna switch your grip up and move your index finger to the same side as the compression lock and still pinch the lock with your thumb to close it. The grip should be pinky, ring finger, and middle finger on the side that doesn’t have the lock, and your index and thumb on the side that does have the lock. When you pinch the compression lock, this grip is way more stable for us left handed people and we don’t have to worry about accidentally dropping the knife. Hopefully that makes sense

[@nickheitner]

Been waiting for this one 🙌

[@Apex_grind562]

You killed it MC. Great review. You are a passionate knife enthusiast. I am buying a sage 5 because of you. Glesser family send this guy free merch!!!! He just promoted you in a way nasal Eric Glesser could never do lol

[@scottd1221]

Couldn't agree more.. sage 5 lightweight is great. I'm a huge fan. I would like to see some additional runs in maybe S35vn or Cruwear with some other scale options. Maybe a g10 version. All with the compression lock.

[@willw3298]

Metal said "pick up a Sage 5" so many times I finally did it today... CURSE YOU METAL COMPLEX 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[@whalehands4779]

You made me get the Maxamet Sage 1. I love it more than my Para 3 even though they are basically the same thing. Just think the sage is less catiwompus. And that Wire clip!!! Og that wire clip I agree with not having a sharpening choil. Every knife I have that has one, I always hit that choil, especially when cutting bale twin or small rope up.

[@bionick4281]

I really like the Sage 5 but I’d like it even more if it was $25 cheaper!

[@rpeg6487]

Agree. I think across the board, Spyderco knives are overpriced by about $20-$30.

[@BuffaloNickel9]

Come on now, I guess you can say that for every knife and pick how much over priced they are... Spyderco are roughly $35+ and Benchmades are roughly $50-75 plus... But most still pay the prices. that's the way it's going to stay. I would love to name my price for everything I buy. Like 30 minutes ago when I filled up my Truck tank and realized our gas has gone up. It was about $0.35 over priced per gallon but unfortunately its the Knife manufacturers that get to chose the MSRP. As long as people pay it they will keep charging it. It's not going away anytime soon gentleman. it's just going to climb even higher in the future. If you want the knife new, pristine, unused & abused you gotta pay the cost. Almost Everything in life is overpriced, no?

[@rpeg6487]

@@BuffaloNickel9 sure, I get it. I actually do think the sage 5 is worth what you're paying for the lightweight version. It's just a spectacular knife and could easily be my "one-and-done" knife. However, it does get harder to justify buying and recommending some of these Spydercos when a few years ago, the Delica was around $65, and the PM2 launched for around $120 if I remember correctly. I love Spyderco, but some of these Chinese brands are hot on their tails as the race to the bottom of who can make the best "budget" knife gets more crowded. Even Hogue, an American knife maker, is making some pretty interesting stuff for a very tempting price. But on the other hand, I do love Spyderco and I will keep buying their stuff as long as they keep pushing the envelope when it comes to design and materials.

[@BuffaloNickel9]

@@rpeg6487 exactly.. most everything is overpriced or taxes you for the brand name.. some worse than others. At the end of the day I pay SMKW or BHQ for all my blades new so I know the are Authentic. I can get the action how I like it. I know they will be centered, or I have the warranty and can return if it is defective or not centered. the edge hasn't been chopping anything crazy or had someone testing their lack of sharpening skills, the scales aren't scratched, and Ole Bubba hasn't been EDC'ing it near his crotch 😂😂...C'mon now Bubba, nobody wants that! If I didn't spend my money on Anything I thought was a little overpriced, I'd only have a dog and very few other possessions. Including my wife who cost me way to much

[@greenbanana2332]

@@BuffaloNickel9 : agree. Those Factory Seconds on the secondary market(s) are definitely a rip-off! However, as long as there are fools (buyer’s), their monies are soon parted. Unsure why peeps continue to buy Factory Seconds PM2’s for over $150!? They can get it new, with warranty, for $154!?

[@jamesstraub4981]

Another fine review. High praise indeed.

[@ibpositivemostly7437]

I believe I have heard the spot in the center of the knife is so the pocket clip will slide in and out of the pocket with out tearing up the pocket as much. I have the Manix 2 light weight and it seems to work.

[@jonr1510]

I wish spyderco would do some sprint runs or a sage salt. I don't like sprint runs but a rex45 or lc200 sage lightweight would be amazing. Has Taichung ever done a sprint?

[@plumtiger1]

I think the sage 5 is the best edc knife ever made! Lost mine, went to buy another, and Spyderco was out! So he showed me the FRN ( which I'm not a fan of) , but the action was so good! Taiwan apparently polishes the washers on this knife. So yeah, I'm gonna buy the regular sage 5 again, but i bought this LW version for hiking and camping in case I lose it again! Lol ! It is better than the para 3

[@charlesdudek7713]

I love my Sage 5 lw and I like the wire clip that is on it and my Manix 2 lw, however when I am wearing my waist length coat I have found that coat tends to pull the knife out of my pocket. This has happened twice with the Manix and just this morning with the Sage. I am going to start putting these two knives in my pocket instead of clipped when I go out with a waist length coat.

[@Knife_Eclectic]

Not a huge fan of plastic scales either but Spyderco definately does a great job on theirs. I really dig the two tone sort of look these ones have it keeps it interesting.

[@stevenj7045]

My favorite Spyderco. I love mine!

[@ericklbc]

This happens to be the knife in my pocket right now. 👍

[@csamons0935]

Amen MC! Preach it. That's why I own both the LW and Maxamet.

[@Abby_Normal_1969]

I have always enjoyed the Sage5 over the Para3, but I haven't held the light weight version of either. Would like to see more steel choices.

[@stevenrichardson4928]

Thanks for your videos! Q: Is the Sage 5 LW upgradable with 3rd party handle/scales?

[@GrumpyGrunt]

I cut dumb stuff. 🤪 I have fallen in love with the compression locks on my PM2 and Para 3. I thought I would like the Manix 2 more, but I don't think I do. Jury is still out. This one is next on my list after a Shaman. Stay well, man.

[@stevenrichardson4928]

Thanks for your videos! Q: Does the LW model have the same internals as the G-10/Fiber Sage 5?

[@user-xq7mv1if4e]

I have sage 2 ti version had it for years goodness 😍

[@wagstaff6135]

I love this blade shape, too. For carry purposes -- and sometimes I'll carry in a pocket "caddy" / (organizer), it's better than the hump on the para3. I also prefer its look very slightly, though I've seen more than one reviewer talk about it as overly "plain" (or vanilla or some such).

[@2212mjm]

I couldn’t agree more about the sage 5, I absolutely love it. I prefer the frn over g10, and I definitely prefer the compression lock over the liner lock. Once I bought this knife, my para 3 hasn’t seen the light of day. The para 3 has so many after market options, I wish it was the same for the sage 5.

[@Mntoyaz]

Sage 5 is like a Dragonfly 2 on Steroids with a compression lock. Thanks for a great video!

[@matusknives]

I would love to see Spyderco bringing Sage 5 in other steels than just S30V. Something like Rex45 or Cruwear or even Maxamet. I know that S30V is a good steel, but I would just love to have more choices (at least one more with a little more toughness). And yes, stone wash just looks so much better. I will most likely get Para3 instead and if necessary do a little convexing to the grind to thin out the edge (should I deem it necessary). Basically all my knives are liner or frame locks (the same thing basically), and I would love to get a knife with a compression lock and the Sage looks really sweet. The funny thing though is - the 'lightweight" weights just 8 grams (10%) less the carbon/G10 version. So it really is more of a price decision rather than weight one and even there the price difference makes it hard to get the FRN version IMO.

[@MJCarrilloCastro]

Blade HQ has a sage 1 in Maxamet right now for $206.50 but its a liner lock not a compression lock.

[@jimq]

How would you compare this to the Mantra 3? I feel like they are pretty similar, besides the flipper and bearings.

[@davidharvey1798]

I like the sage 5 but I want it in regular g10 handles and not have to pay significantly more than the frn handled one. I was actually planning to pick up a para 3 but your review may have changed my mind.

[@davidwarburton8890]

Total winner. A perfect EDC.

[@bigfudge20]

just watching this..i’ve only had my Para 3 for a short time and i love it but i’ve also been watching a lot of videos recently to see what else might compare. I’d be interested to know if you feel the same today, that the Sage 5 is better (or at least comparable) than/to the Para 3. I like the shape of it and i think it looks similar to the Manix 2, but i think the Manix 2 is a tad too big for my preference. interested to hear your thoughts! as always, great video!

[@metal_complex]

Alright, I've been thoroughly corrected on the reason behind the logo on the scales 😅 (I still think it's ugly as all hell)

[@croatialives]

I have added sharpening choils on most of my spydercos with my Dremel and a diamond tool

[@rpeg6487]

Bought (another) one yesterday after some slapdick local sharpening guy messed up the edge on my CF one a few months back. I don't understand why this thing doesn't get more love. Def my favorite spyderco

[@mrsw916]

Returned a para 3 LW and got the sage instead, much preferred

[@SkunkPunch73]

Hahaha thank you so much I can’t wait to grab hold of the lightweight sage5. I am one of them nutters that does indeed already have the carbon number but that’s all I could get my hands on at the time it’s not the best of grips but meh it’s a sage5 so I didn’t give a monkeys! But now I have seen that this little number is out ohhh mamma come on home!! Thanks for the review MC yet again another beautiful do job brother keep on keeping on😘👍

[@Al-ds3sw]

I love the Sage series I have the original sage sage 2 sage 5 but wish Spyderco would bring back the Sage 2 I would buy another 1 for sure great video

[@knife-a-holic7975]

Love your videos

[@AndrewWarmack]

Sage 5 vs para 3 lightweight signature? Have the para 3 in spy27, would the sage 5 replace the signature para 3?

[@sml2238]

im sure you also purchased the camera you're using the film this video and the monitor you used to edit it or upload it on right? do those have branding on them? I agree in that knives aren't typically usually over branded but in this case I think there's 2 reasons for it, one is that it's a design they can use to center their bidirectional grip pattern on the scales and 2 it's free brand awareness.

[@CKshouta]

Was deciding between this and the Manix 2 LW in memesteel. Got the Manix because it's a bit larger and that tiffany colored scale.

[@rmpj13]

I Own it. I Love it. I Don’t leave home without it. It’s that, Complex.

[@apass2803]

Would you take the s30v sage5 over the spy27 para 3

[@revolvermaster4939]

DAMN, I actually like sharpening knives, axes and anything edged and just ordered a MAXAMET blade.

[@dgross53]

Bought a benchmade full immunity. Just too small. Returned it and bought the sage 5. So happy I did.

[@spydiho]

Which is the best steel s30v or s45vn ?

[@timseal4792]

just ordered one

[@danofiremano]

Excellent review here & I totally feel the same way about the Triad Lock! Get a Fixed Blade. ~ LoL Also, the Original Sage 5 has CF/G10 scales & it's just as sweet as this version.

[@bradleymckinney83]

Sage 5 with cts-xhp ? I don't own one but have the opportunity to get one now. What do u think about that combo Complex? I don't own that blade steel either. So I guess win win. Just like your opinion on the sage 5 with cts-xhp or sage 1 maxamet. Which I can't get in without overpaying. Can get the other for retail.. Thanks 🙏

[@jhong56789]

Thank you MC for clearing the Taiwan issue again. I wish people with negative comments towards Taiwan can educate themselves a bit. Taiwan is to China as South Korea is to North Korea. South Korea makes great stuff as well as Taiwan.

[@dtwynn27]

Eric does talk about the lack of the sharpening choil near the beginning of the Spyderco Shaman Breakdown video on the Spyderco youtube channel

[@xxarea83xx]

I have the Sage 5 carbon fiber. I definitely prefer it to the Para3

[@partyfrog69]

left-handers can manipulate and adapt quickly and effectively.

[@coralinealgae]

I got a Sage 5 LW a couple weeks ago. Other than struggling to get rid of the blade play without overtightening the pivot, it's turning out to be a wonderful EDC knife. Love it. Even the FRN scales feel nice in the hand (to me). I added a little sharpening choil with some tiny diamond files and knocked down a few hard edges on the blade. Wonderful knife for people who don't mind doing some simple finishing touches. Tempted to put a mirror finish on the blade.

[@mrc2205]

I like the name on there. In case I mix them up when I loose my memory lol

[@kingjgregory]

I love the Spyderco leaf shape so much. Prefer this to the Para 3.

[@13noman1]

While I do prefer the Sage 5 blade over the Para 3, the Para 3, at least for me, has one strong advantage over the Sage...I already own the Para 3 and the two are pretty darn close that my budget can't stretch for a near (if better) double.

[@Marc-Vickers]

I wish it were actually more popular than the Para 3 so I could find aftermarket scales for it.

[@evanb123]

Spyderco if you’re reading this...please offer a few more variations of the Sage 5 🙏🏻 Like MC said maybe a Maxamet option to match the Sage 1 or maybe SPY-27??

[@mathewheller6919]

And rex 45 , cpm 154

[@coralinealgae]

I'd love an LC200N version. Would be like a Little Native 5 Salt but with a compression lock.

[@Lumpy_Peter]

Yeah, and if Spyderco is reading this, make also a Chaparral FRN with the compression lock.

[@pstaehlin]

I'd love to see this model in another steel other than S30V.

[@williame.boylejr.1229]

How about the jumbones I like that better than any other Spyderco knife made

[@RobertOrtiz1015]

The crest is for the pocket clip! Its so it doesn’t tear your pockets... it has it in both sides because you can move the clip.

[@metal_complex]

Ya there were a lot of other people who pointed that out immediately.

[@RobertOrtiz1015]

@@metal_complex keep doing what you do! We love the content!

[@kova1577]

Does centring of the blade even matter? For me even if the blade is slightly off it never really effected the opening or closing of the blade and it was still tight. I guess it’s mostly about aesthetics?

[@jonathanwatson268]

I currently find the Manix 2, with a very similar blade, to be the ideal blade for everything I do. Is the sage really that different from the Manix??

[@CKshouta]

It's smaller with a different lock. I own 2 manix2s so you know where I stand on the issue

[@ccashin6228]

Just picked this up because of this video

[@LrdwEDC]

Well that does it for me, going to pickup a Sage 5 LW!

[@LrdwEDC]

Ok ordered!

[@millionairejh]

they need to make a madamet grey version like the sage 1 with a compression lock.

[@yankee2yankee216]

You know what “mitigates that cheap feel?” TITANIUM SCALES. They make this excellent inexpensive knife into TOP SHELF.

[@JS-ix6zt]

Here I thought I was special picking the Sage 5 LW as my EDC instead of para 3

[@jrobertsrhs]

Love this knife but unfortunately mine has some side to side blade play :/

[@machpandac]

Wish it had chamferring on the handle section near the compression lock. A little tough to get to the lock. Definitely creates a sore spot on my index when i use it consecutively. For me, so far, its not better than the para 3. The silhouette closed or open isnt as attractive for me. The action of my particular sage 5 isnt as smooth as my para 3. We'll see when she breaks in more.

[@ChristianRaps]

They need this in LC200N, then it's a buy for me

[@AdAce21]

if I'd have known this existed, I would've bought this over the para 3 lw. I much prefer this blade shape

[@nlxon]

The crest is where the clip lands, so it does not tear a hole in your pocket. It's a normal feature on Spyderco's...

[@metal_complex]

That makes sense. I sill hate it.

[@aballer18]

Just my opinion of course, but "made in Taiwan" is not exactly synonymous with great quality when it comes to products in general. Maybe not as bad of a reputation as "made in China". But if some out there are like me, it takes maybe hearing about Spyderco's Taiwan plant reputation and some reassurance of some sort before that idea would be accepted. It's just not going to be the opinion from the first time you hear it. This Sage 5 LW was my first knife over $100. Love it. It's the knife I carry and use most. Like you, I would surely favor anything made in America, but that doesn't mean there isn't a place for knives or any products made elsewhere as well. Thanks as always for the entertainment.

[@coralinealgae]

To be honest, considering the positive relationship Taiwan has with the US, and all the hell they go through with China constantly threatening to attack them, I consider it a little patriotic to support Taiwan. They're our ally. No shame in supporting a country who supports us.

[@CKshouta]

Taiwanese here. Politics and patriotism aside, the country of manufacture for a knife isn't as important as the company's track record or in this case, the plant of said company's track record. This is the reason why I will recommend WE all day despite being made in China and its politics, and not recommend certain US brands for their shoddy work. Spyderco's Taichung plant does a better job than Seki and Golden IMHO. Edges are rounded and finer details aren't skipped. And that is probably the reason why Taichung spydies aren't less expensive, in fact often more expensive than the aforementioned two plants.

[@andrewt248]

It's so quick and easy to add a sharpening choil, if you own a Dremel (or similar rotary tool). I've added one to all my Spydies before their first sharpening session.

[@backham6900]

If you live in the cold area and your wear gloves, or you at higher ground, you probably prefer the liner lock instead of a compression lock.

[@TheOfficialCaseMade]

Just FYI Spyderco makes a grey FRN Maxamet Sage 5 now.

[@markharmon6942]

Yes

[@simptrix007]

Got 2 decent automatic watches, 2 high end kitchen knives - lets hope this is the only EDC knife my wallet has to fund.

[@space.cowboy69]

Yo the spyderco sage logo is to protect your pocket from tearing

[@MetalRush666]

I carry a 6" ti-lite as a backup I think the Sage will be small and light enough to be my main edc

[@randallrogers6608]

I couldn't make up my mind so I got both Sage 5 and Para 3.

[@hunterglaspell5580]

The title is a yes for me. I hate the para 3. Had one, and it was way to small for my hands. And the pocket clip position is not it chief