SQ Lab Saddles and why I think they are so widely accepted - Part 1

[@lorihoechlin4336]

I can attest to everything you said. I would highly recommend this saddle to anybody in search of one. I have never before until this saddle said to myself during a ride “this is such a comfortable saddle”. Definitely added to enjoyment of being on my bike!

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

And it’s important to note that you as a woman and I as a man use the exact same 612 Ergowave saddle! No gender specific saddle needed with SQ Lab! Also important to mention you ride 12,000- 14,000 miles per year

[@stevejenkins6045]

I have a couple of seats that are proven so I did not really need to try a new seat but based on your review I ordered one today to evaluate. Thanks George.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

You’re Welcome

[@grantmcalpine6364]

I was recently at my bike fitter and he sells these saddles. I love this saddle. Full sit bone support and I just feel so much better overall. Once again, great video.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Another convert! 😂 You’re Welcome thanks for watching!

[@raulmarquez5485]

Man you were crazy breaking in the new saddle on such a long ride! Seems like it turned out to be a great saddle. I have the Selle SMP on one of my bikes, which I really like. As a cyclist, you know the small fortune we have gone through trying to find the right saddle! Anyway I have four different saddles on my four different bikes. 😂 I think I will buy an SQ Labs saddle the next time I purchase one. I live in central CA, but would love to go to your store and buy it from you. If I ever get a chance, I will definitely stop by your shop! I love your channel and the content! 🚴🏻‍♂️❤️

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I would love to host you 😊

[@buster.keaton]

@georgevarags7351 Thanks to your recommendation, I purchased the SQ Lab 612 to replace my much loved Fizik Antares R1 carbon because I wanted a "relief channel" that the R1 does not have. Not only is the SQ Lab 612 a few grams lighter than the already light Antares R1, my "backside" was immediately comfortable on the 612 with no break-in time. I now have well over 1,000 miles in the saddle on the 612 and highly recommend it as well.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I’m so happy the SQ Lab works for you!

[@jerryscott9598]

Thank you George, this is very helpful. I have a SMP Lite 209 on my road bike, and like it, (still move around on it to relieve pressure), but it's the best so far. I've purchased a SQLab 6OX Infinergy ERGOWAVE active 2.0, have yet to mount it on my mt bike. I'm running a WTB Volt, (tried a Spec Phenom), and others, but your video gives me hope that a flat, step-up saddle w relief can work. I wear bibs w good pads.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Good luck Jerry and thank for chiming in. Please let us know how it works out for you!

[@cunningham4500]

Great introduction for a great product. This saddle is fantastic and not without reason everyone keeps it once tried.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Thank You 🙏

[@CT37BN]

Bought Ergon SMC Core and SQ Labs 60X Infinergy saddle, both utilise BASF PU foam also used by Adidas on their shoes. Both super comfortable but do prefer SQ Labs because I felt more seated/planted on the saddle better while with the Ergon I would often times slide more. The PU foam on both brands really work to alleviate soreness.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Wow! You really went down the rabbit hole on this one 😂😂 I don’t need a I know all of that when choosing a saddle to ride 😂 Anyway I’m glad you’re taken care of now Please subscribe

[@Robbie-f6e]

Love my 612 SQLab saddle

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Wonderful! Thanks for watching please consider subscribing

[@polthomaskeeley7860]

Thanks. Great reviews. Yep, the quest for comfort on a saddle is such a particular thing. Coupled with a solid bike fit, it can be a lifelong journey. Yet others can just sit on any saddle with no problems and wonder what's up with you lol I think Sq Lab have the right idea, and I know a lot of fitters and riders love them. I tried the basic *610*, and while they did (do) a brilliant job of elevating the area off the perineum, the cushioning was so minimal that it hurt the seat bones too much. My friends recommended the *611 Ergowave*, which they say has a lot more cushioning. So let's see.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Good luck and report back with your findings. I think the shape of saddle is much more important than the padding on it. Thank You for watching please subscribe 🙂

[@polthomaskeeley7860]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad 👍😎Thanks 🙂

[@interlake1395]

George - What angle are you using for your SQ saddle? As in, setting a flat plane from nose to rear of saddle across the top.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Just put the saddle on the bike and ride it then make adjustments. This doesn’t need to be complicated. Bike fitters make such a big deal with all the smoke and mirrors to impress you either here on KZbin or in their fit studios. I am a bike fitter of over 20 years. I put the saddle on. I eyeball it somewhat flat or ask the client how they like their saddle. Then I sit them on it and make adjustments until they are powerful, efficient and comfortable. I never use a tool to set up a saddle. You shouldn’t either!!! Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing for more myth busting.

[@FrankieD777]

I Love your channel… Very informative. I bought this SQlab 612 ergowave S the RAISED part of the seat that is used to give you the Soft tissue more room was very very uncomfortable.. It was like two hard nodules jamming me in the sit bones… 😣

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

What model is the S? Did you mean the R? By the way, I did a video why I was getting rid of my R saddles - short nose. I also shot a video on why I don’t recommend the Active saddle. Both of those have those pronounced ridges which I don’t like. I recommend the regular not active 612

[@FrankieD777]

Yes I seen your video on those ridges. I got the short ergowave S-tube rail… I’m a bigger guy so maybe not good for my frame type.. Seats are so different for every person it’s just trial and error… I am back to my Selle Italia SLR with the big cut out center and short nose boost and just got a proper bike fitting and things are feeling good…

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@FrankieD777 good for you! However, both the short nose and the active are a terrible representative of the SQ Lab saddle. You should try again with the standard saddle. When you decide to purchase the standard please consider purchasing from me - it’s the main reason I do these saddle videos.

[@BeaverTerror]

Do you have any experience with the newly released gravel specific 614 saddle? It's the same shape as the 612, but with the slightly thicker padding of the mountain bike 611.

[@remo8969]

I live in Sacramento. Do you know where I might be able to get a demo saddle to try?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

As one of the largest SQ LAB dealers in California we (you and I) should be able to work something out. Contact me at [e-mail]

[@Vam1500]

Would you recommend the 614 for gravel cycling?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

I don’t know anything about the 614. If one of my customers ever orders it I’ll do an unboxing. If it were me I would and will gravel with a 612.

[@nickgoogle4525]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad More or less the same saddle, just a bit more padding on the 614.

[@allgoodisdead]

Hello George, great informative video. I would like to purchase an sqlab 612 ergowave active 2.1 saddle but I'm not sure about the correct size. My sit bone width is 11,5cm. I ride a road bike and my saddle to handlebar drop is of about 5-6cm. I usually ride on the hoods 80% of the time and maybe 20 % of the time, for example on a descent or riding a headwind, i'll go to the drops in a more aero position. Would you reccomend 13cm or 14cm for the saddle width? Cheers, David

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello - I would recommend a 14cm. I measure 10.5 cm and ride a 14cm. I think (without knowing enough about you) that a 13cm would be too small. Please consider ordering from me :-) When I give advice to folks I hope that someone repays said advice with giving me the opportunity to earn your business.

[@allgoodisdead]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Hello George, Thank you so much for your answer. I would be happy to order from you but I live in Portugal which means I'd have to pay customs plus a a good amount for shipping. I dont even know if you ship here. It would also take way longer. If I happen to meet any fellow cyclists from the US I will definitely refer them to you. Thank you so much. BTW, do you think i'd be better off with the active version or the normal version? Best wishes

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@allgoodisdead I ship around the world with US Postal Service yes it takes a bit and yes there are customs/duties. I prefer standard. On the other hand, Active is very popular

[@luisacc5960]

Great advice George … I’m measured 11 cm, and initially I ordered a 13 based on their website recommendations. However, I found that 14 was a better fit for me…now I’ve to change the saddle in the other bikes. How can I order from you ?..and the other time you recommended the saddle “all the way back”..any tips from that advice Thanks again George

[@jeffreasor8678]

I recently had a bike fit done for my mountain bike to solve pain/numbness in the perineum and after some adjustments I am now I’m currently riding on a 145mm selle Italia model x saddle. The saddle is a big improvement but still not perfect. I am interested in trying a SQlab saddle. Is that something your shop can help with as I think you’re the only SQlab retailer near me

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello Jeff! Thank You for your inquiry! Under normal circumstances I would happy to set you up with a demo. I am currently in a holding pattern as I don’t have access to Sq Lab saddles. Sq Lab was recently purchased and they have not set up the new distribution channel for us dealers to purchase products yet. Having said that we should still meet and can worm on ascertaining your size and place a backorder. The new distributor should go live in a couple of weeks.

[@glenfishing]

is the website stock accurate? SQL seats show shipping in 1-2 days

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello G P! Depending on the saddle model and size most things are available within a week. The 1-2 days is just a default on the website from pre-COVID when I had a lot more stock :-( Just email me and let's talk about options!! [e-mail]

[@angelortiz353]

What saddle are you on now i have two bikes one with a 3d printed sworks and the other with a sworks romin evo 3d printed from specialized i had no issues for about a year now with both saddles my inner thighs are rubbing not sure if its because im now doing 70 to 100 mile rides and before it was just a max of 30 but i was looking for solutions and sqlabs came up and so did your video thanks in advance

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello Angel - I am STILL riding SQ Lab 612 Ergowave saddles. I haven't found anything more comfortable. And yes if you increase your milage from 30- 100 you will discover all kinds of things that worked at short distances that do not work at long distances. Thanks for watching

[@angelortiz353]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad ok thank you so 611 i see is for gravel and im guessing for an endurance bike a 612 or 611 would work i guess i have to go on their site to see what is good for the type of bikes im riding

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@angelortiz353 I keep it simple I ride the same saddle on any bike KISS Method

[@angelortiz353]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad got it i will order one to see if it helps and it becomes my saddle

[@angelortiz353]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad thank you

[@LarryRossi-u8d]

Is it the ergowave active or just ergowave

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Ergowave. Did you hear me say anything about active?

[@timtaylor9590]

whats the long nose for?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

What are you talking about? Standard saddle

[@curtis1951]

What model of sq lab seat do you use?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

My apologies for missing your comment! I ride the 612 ergo wave non-active saddle in a 14 cm width. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any further questions. Also let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to cover on my channel I’m always looking for suggestions. Please subscribe! 🙂

[@curtis1951]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Thanks

[@MJ-he6wn]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I noticed you said you sized up by accident but preferred it. Do you mind sharing your sit bone width and chosen riding position? Thanks.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@MJ-he6wn yes of course! But it wasn’t an accident. I had to loan out my 13cm to a rider and put a 14cm on my bike in the meantime. Loved it!! 1. I measured 10.5 cm 2. You’re supposed to round up so that meant 11 cm 3. I ride in the drops a lot! You’re supposed to add 2. 11+2= 13cm. 4. I rode a 13 cm for a few months to include multiple centuries and a 200 miler. 5. As mentioned above I had to loan out my 13 cm to a customer. I’ve never gone back I love my 14cm 6. I size up for all my fitting clients as well and it seems to work better than SQ Lab recommendations. Thanks for watching! Please consider subscribing

[@MJ-he6wn]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad thanks for the info! Strangely enough, I size up my saddles by one size and it has worked for me as well in most saddles that I’ve tried.

[@BornInArona]

Me riding a 90s selle italia flite

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

You and many others! So much so Selle Italia brought back the Flite for a few years. I don’t know if it’s still around though. I rode a Flite as well. I also rode an SLR during my weight weenie years. The SQ Lab is significantly more comfortable for me and the hundreds of people I have moved over to it over the years. But you do you. If you’re comfortable stay with what you have and keep smiling and riding! Cheers! Thanks for watching and please consider subscribing.

[@BornInArona]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad I'm sure every saddle hurts when hitting the 180+ km XD

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@BornInArona 😂 not true 😂 as an endurance rider I routinely ride 160 km rides on Saturdays. I’ve done over 65 200 milers or 320 km many with over 4,000 meters of climbing (race organization with a calendar of 200 milers) and I’ve done 13 - 500 milers 815 kms with over 35,000 feet of gain or 10,000 meters and I’ve also done RAAM in 2007 - when I say the SQ Lab saddle is the most comfortable saddle I’ve ever ridden it comes from real world experience of riding crappy saddles. Just yesterday I rode another 160 km ride on my SQ Lab with no issues. I’ve got the rest of my crew on the SQ Lab saddles as well. These ladies along with my self ride a minimum 10,000 miles and 1,000,000 feet of climbing per year. You can follow me on Strava strava.app.link/hlH8H5biGsb

[@BornInArona]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad so what saddle from sqlabs for 12 cm sit bones? XD

[@BornInArona]

You made curios

[@melbman43]

I'm very interested in this saddle. Your not the first one to review it either kzbin.info/www/bejne/anqUnXyBesx-la8 Now, as far as long endurance riding goes, we would love to see you down under here in Australia for the Indian Pacific Wheel Race.

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Hello Melbman! I checked out the link ... that's just crazy talk lol! Anyway I'm semi-retired from the really long stuff like the race you propose. Furthermore it's a wee bit far away. I love my SQ Lab saddles and have sold them to all shapes and sizes of men and women. I wish you were closer so I could put a demo saddle on your bike. :-(

[@allgoodisdead]

@@SeeYouUpTheRoad Why is it crazy talk?

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

@@allgoodisdead I’m retired from Ultra Racing

[@fetB]

disliked and blocked. Why is it so common to constantly talk about subscribing. Not only is it largely irrelevant to people, everyone knows you can follow. Literally everyone. At least dont waste time on it and edit an animation or something into the video

[@SeeYouUpTheRoad]

Every KZbin channel will ask you to subscribe. It’s a call to action. If you don’t ask for people to subscribe many just don’t even think about subscribing. Countless times I am exchanging comments with someone and I’ll ask if they’ve subscribed and they say oh wow no I hasn’t yet I will now. Lastly, the more subs the more leverage you have with people you want to interview, products you want to test and evaluate and so on. In other words, the more subs the better you can provide content for your viewers. It seems to me you shouldn’t be on KZbin if you don’t like someone asking you to subscribe to their channel. You also have no idea how many people have reached out to me for consult and for purchase of an SQ Lab saddle because of this video. Just today someone called me to discuss his personal situation and purchased a saddle. It doesn’t seem they were put off by me asking them to subscribe. So I will continue to do what I’m doing because it works.

[@fetB]

​@@SeeYouUpTheRoad That's called a self-fulfilling prophecy, my dear. Of course you hear from people who were not put off by it, because everyone else has left. Besides, not sure what this has to do with the saddle or where im even saying that people are put off by it. I have no doubt the saddle is successful because its actually a proper invention among the saddle market. Im saying you can achieve the sub-messaging by adding it as a visual instead of wasting it on runtime

[@tleonard3546]

Hey little fella, you should move on from your BS trolling here. If you had any idea what you were talking about, it would be different, but you don't. You better hurry and get to your job at McDonalds, before mommy kicks you out of her basement.