Squadron 42: Facial Animation Technology

[@BigTArmada]

This looks incredible, I can't wait to see how else it's applied

[@Roguey]

I didnt realize how much detail was going into this. It looks very impressive - the pupil shirking is even crazier.

[@DawidFreeman]

When the game is PC ONLY = AMZING GRAPHICS AND SCALE

[@getitstandswithukraine6637]

heard of un charted 4 yet?

[@CakeRocketProduction]

Uncharted 4? BAHAHAHAH. Get out. Uncharted 4 will at best be on a top 10 list of games that did x and y really well while Star Citizen will be a trendsetter for all sci-fi games for the coming generations, and will be comparable to games like Wolfenstein 3D or Half-Life. You could even go out and test what the devs have done so far. If you had a computer to run it, that is.

[@ShadeWMD]

1:15 I can't stop laughing.

[@NEURO_DOCTOR]

MOISTURIZE ME

[@KulfGreymoon]

+Shade Draws I was wondering what could be funny... and when I see it... Yeah I totally get what you mean. LOL

[@ShadeWMD]

Kulf Greymoon I posted the screenshot on Imgur. On the left, about to sneeze. On the right, suddenly thinking about cupcakes.

[@jaaaee_]

+meowmixform I get that reference!

[@viktor14jaar]

+meowmixform I to get that reference!

[@Blipblobit]

PUPIL FUCKIN" DILATION TECH BOYOS.

[@TaskForce357]

+Blipblobit But will they have fish AI?

[@MrJamesyboi121]

+Horizon Games they not only move out of the way they also frown at you whilst doing so

[@abefroeman5526]

+Horizon Games They already do.

[@infinnitegamer244]

+Horizon Games Their $64,000,000 stretch "Pets - We have repair bots, we have fish..." Boyz we have fish AI. This game is better than Call of Duty confermed.

[@minotaurking1458]

+infinnitegamer244 Thats the only thing that makes this game better than cod?

[@The_RedVIII]

Bethesda should take note. Bioware as well.

[@fox_hole_gaming8701]

+RedVIII no

[@The_RedVIII]

Fox_Hole_Gaming Why not? Ever played Skyrim, Fallout or Mass Effect? You won't find more lifeless faces anywhere else.

[@fox_hole_gaming8701]

I don't disagree,in wanting that, merely that there is a good reason why such a thing is feasible on PC, but not profitable to do for big publishers. Other teams don't need to "take note" or anything like that as I'm pretty sure they could all achieve this if they went 100% PC only. But the notion that they are doing something unheard of and others need to take not is a bit silly. Your not seeing other teams not do this because they can't, your not seeing other teams do this because they funded differently and their aim is to not solely make a PC exclusive, even CPDR stated they could have never even made a Witcher 3 on PC that even looked like the current withcher 3 if it wasn't for consoles as they could not afford it, ie they could not afford to create something on a small install base of elite PCs as they would never see a huge return if any return. CIG will see a return as they didn't even fund the game, the public did. Other developers don't have such a luxury and must fund the old fashion way. So lots of reason why your seeing this title push such visuals...because a big publisher doesn't own them and is not funding as I doubt you would ever see such visuals pushed for a PC title if it was crowd funded. Their is are a reason why Star Citizen is the only one pushing such visuals....they can afford to, its not that they are merely the only ones that are capable, just the ones that can financially take such risk. Didn't mean to write a tree, but there is more to why such a thing isn't happening all over then merely 1 team being better. Skyrim was never pushing 11 million units looking like this as a PC exclusive as it would be too demanding and the team would never see those sales without console versions to fund it.

[@The_RedVIII]

Fox_Hole_Gaming So, your argument is they should or won't do it because they are developing for multiple platforms? That makes absolutely no sense. Please explain why the facial animations in Witcher 3 look awesome on all plattforms.

[@fox_hole_gaming8701]

www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1049457 It makes more sense then you think bud. They are not making a PC exclusive...thus can't afford to spend money to make such visuals on a version that won't they won't even make a return on. Witcher 3's facial animations do look aweoseome....that isn't the point lol, its that they can't by default to what Star Citizen is ever look like Star Citizen's. Star Citizen is a PC exclusive crowd funded. They seek no return as its not their money they are using. CDPR can't do that as they are not crowd funded, they have to seek a return, they can't make a deep visual PC exclusive with high specs etc as even they stated this THEMSELVES. They could...they would not make a return though lol Star Citizen is the best bet for visuals like theses as they can again afford to make it PC exclusive and push such deep visuals as they don't have investors to answer to and they have no return on investment to seek as its not their money they are using to fund the project. Its why you don't see any big publisher making a game like this...didn't you think it was odd that no one was making such a game other then CIG? Its not a coincidence bud. Even Chris Roberts states it himself that such a thing is not feasible on console development and not feasible from the normal traditional funding methods of development as no publisher is going ot just make a PC exclusive with such high end specs...AAA. As to why you don't see an answer to this from any of the big publishers currently.

[@acs91]

1:24 and this is how gary oldman meme began

[@mandu9520]

Whenever I see Gary Oldman I see Zorg, wonderful movie and he played a great role in it.

[@NicGaming]

It looks so beautiful!

[@oscarweinberg3148]

Yes it does

[@buckrodgers1162]

Grand, the UEE has Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg as an Admiral. This should be interesting.

The face capture was amazing!

[@EwanJP2001]

1:20 will haunt me now until the end of my days…

[@tacticaladvance]

Looks epic

[@russianrockman3112]

My mind was blown when they showed the pupils thing. Also, that would so fun to play with Gary Oldman's face!

[@Alucard9692010]

almost outside the uncanny valley, but not quite. The face look incredible, but at the same time, there is a creepy factor... something is not quite right with them.

[@HanFyren]

+alucard ex Yeah. I think this, along with the Witcher 3, is slowly clawing it's way up the other slope of the valley.

[@abefroeman5526]

+alucard ex That is the definition of uncanny valley. So it's not outside, it hit it.

[@VideoSage]

+alucard ex I honestly think it's the beard, & the lighting currently.

[@babybirdhome]

+alucard ex One of the things it isn't doing right is the lip movement. Lips are squishy and their surface is stretchy, and saliva makes them a bit sticky when they're brought together and pulled apart again. Video game animation so far doesn't quite reach that deep into what really happens when a face moves. The animators for Shrek were the first to start doing things like that, but it hasn't progressed too far beyond that yet and it has yet to make its way into games at all so far.

[@ZettabyteGamer]

+alucard ex It looks outside of the valley to me.

[@trolledyou7032]

And realtime rendering kills it all.. In Maya that looks awesome!

[@StormWorm5364]

Oh man, oh man, oh man!

[@HelmetHair]

Very important stuff for a space simulation :)

[@MrTree421]

+tomme25 It really is! Good of you to notice. Many were fearing that the Singleplayer campaign was not getting enough attention to achieve what was promised during the original Campaign back in November of 2012.

[@MrStubbs8157]

+MrTree421 Who are you referring to as "many"? We always knew that this would come out like it is now....just the new tech behind it is very impressive. Rest was clear from the start.

[@MrTree421]

MrStubbs1981 When I say "many". I mean the part of the community that was screaming their lungs out for Infos on Squadron 42 since well about 1 year. Information on the Singleplayer is quite rare. If you compare it to the rest of the Game. And it is actually quite the well guarded secret(the Cast-List stayed secret(I find this very impressive)). And who are you referring to as "we" I was careful not to chose "We" because I wanted to not have a comment along the lines of "You don't speak for me"

[@MrStubbs8157]

+MrTree421 Because many people know, that all the "PU" or "SC" stuff, that they are working on is also an essential part of the experience in SQ42. And it is no surprise from the start of the campaign, that they wouldnt reveal a lot of information about the narrative stuff and the story. Everything that is developed for Star Citizen is also working in SQ42 and all this is essential. So, we get information every week about what is also in SQ42.... With we I mean every star citizen, that has just a normal sense of what is happening. None of those, who are informed ever claimed to have a low info on SQ42, as there was plenty, there is plenty and a lot of SC work you see is also for SQ42. So we get info every week. You just have to make up your mind about what SQ42 is.....It is essentially a narrative way to do missions...same as in SC, but with more cinematic and completely singleplayer (or occasionally coop, if you want to). We know that since the beginning of kickstarter. The storyline is the key! Not the missions you do, as you will also be able to do such missions in the PU. Not all but plenty. And there is no question, why they keep the storyline secret. As I said: Everyone who is following the project is knowing that.

[@MrTree421]

MrStubbs1981 I really do think you missed the point of Cit-Con the scope of Squadron 42 is much bigger than you seem to believe. And while it is true we know a lot about the game mechanics in SQ42 which is as you pointed out really unsurprising since all features are developed to work in both parts of the Game. However when talking about a huge Singleplayer campaign. And the only thing you know for a fact is what mechanics will be in it you should actually realize you know jack all about the campaign. And up to yesterday no one(on reddit and SC-Forums) knew who the actors playing roles in SC are. With the exception of rumors about Mark Hamill and Jack Huston that spoilered himself a few days before Cit-Con. Normally after 3 years of Development you would know a bit more. For the record I consider myself one of those "Star Citizen with a normal sense of what is happening" so please don't speak for me. As I said: It is never clever to use "we" when expressing a personal opinion. One tends to antagonize people for no good reason other than to say: "Pff what are you stupid you dumb casual ofcourse we don't know anything about a huge part of the game. That would be spoilering a lot of stuff. You obviously don't know anything about SC"(this is essential what your two comments read like)

[@sergarlantyrell7847]

I hope all characters will have this!!!

[@thesecondislander]

I gotta say though, i think the animation, textures, and models all look A LOT better in this video than they actually do in Bishop's speech or the Morrow tour. I really hope those examples are just placeholders.

THATS FUCKING AMAZING!!!! Incredible work!!

[@SweRaider1993]

Amazing! Never realized how much wrinkles and pupil dilation adds... I thought 2:16 was a real person! :O

[@darkroronoa]

looks incredible!

[@TesserLink]

anyone else remember tron when they recreated the face. its almost to that level in real time games.

[@bpierce266]

2:08 and up Gary Oldman's lack of eyeballs really is disturbing.

[@Zoza15]

This game needs a very future proof graphics card to handle these things on screen.. And such an amazing effort being put here to make PC gaming shine once again..

[@VadimVirvinsky]

Roses are red Violets are blue We are still waiting for Squadron 42

[@ykcaw6222]

Please dont tell me Im the only one who thought that bald girl wasn't fake..

[@grantbriggs2684]

On no, that was some of the most realistic facial animation I've ever seen. WHY DOESN'T GARY OLDMAN LOOK LIKE HER?! This was VERY impressive and while they didn't escape uncanny valley with Gary this is an awesome leap for games! Starting to get up to movie fidelity!

[@Harry101UK]

+Grant Briggs Pretty sure the female one was pre-rendered, and not in a real-time game engine; hence it looks much higher quality, and has higher-fidelity lighting.

[@KillahMate]

+Grant Briggs The 'bald girl' is prerendered, they didn't have to compress anything and didn't have to do anything real-time - one frame of her animation could have taken like 15 minutes to render. She's as good as this tech can make her. Bishop is as good as he can be, considering he has to run in like 30 fps on a 980GTX.

[@grantbriggs2684]

+KillahMate I see, Bishop looks great for a video game! But she was very impressive

[@Swidhelm]

+Grant Briggs I think it largely comes down to lighting. That woman was not rendered in cryengine. Probably something like Maya or Max. That, and I think Oldman being at the podium limits his body movements, and some of the natural motions are lost.

[@dracomalfoyvevo]

When Bioware says that face animations are hard to make

[@SANDVlCH]

This has the potential to be this decade's HL2.

[@BIOSHOCKFOXX]

I am eager to finally see the final collected budget for Star Citizens over the all years from the Crowd Funding :D I bet it will be the most highest budget game ever that has been successfully developed and only by fan support. I can't even start guessing, whenever I think of a number, I think of the effort placed in and the quality and details placed, which then breaks my number and tends to reach higher...for example, 140mil ? naah...seeing this stuff in it...probably near 200mil...but the game is still in early stages nonetheless...man, I don't know :D

[@ChrisCross97]

this is amazing. probably would have bin cheaper to just make this a film instead of an animated cutscene :D

[@home-w8y]

at least we know what /gary newman would look like if he was run over!

[@paulbarlow9981]

Holy shit! Amazing tech!

[@iClone316]

Was it just me, or did Gary Oldman NOT look that impressive there? I mean it looks just fine, no complaints, just not mindblowing. Now the brief shot we saw of the female character, OMG....I literally couldn't tell if that was a person or CGI as I stared at it.

[@alkohnest]

The woman was animated?

[@iClone316]

+alkohnest Yep, amazing right?

[@Hanfgurkenhasser]

You do know it's not final, right? Pretty sure when it's out, it'll blow us away.

[@nbhjmyj8869]

i came to see because of the new mass effect

[@nammertime]

i dub it the 'Gary Oldman' module, v0.1

[@andremaccarini1656]

2:16 Ok. This looks so real it's scary.

[@TheRealKyle]

Its my old boss, David from Cubic Motion haha go Cubic Motion :)

[@panashe8478]

Interesting, what job did you do.

[@TheRealKyle]

+Charles Debour I haven't worked on Star Citizen unfortunately, but i obviously did facial animation so i was a Facial Animator.

[@abud3d146]

Is the movement of the hands and feet also works

[@VideoSage]

I think the biggest thing they could do now to improve the realism, is remove the beard they currently have on him. I'm find with Gary Oldman having a Beard, but the digital one just doesn't look correct at all. It's possible that when a man has a beard such as the one his character is portrayed with, his face will move differently, that he will express himself differently. Just the fact that there is hair, means it will interact with itself, and with the skin beneath it, also sometimes physically limiting the faces movement.

[@babybirdhome]

+Video Sage Man, so weird randomly running into your comment on another video! I was like, "hey that looks like Sage's profile pic. Who's running around using it?" I still need to finish catching up on Joint Survival season 3. Good reminder since I'm free today!

[@ProjectCould]

I'd say that the E3 2019 scene for Halo: Infinite significantly surpasses Squadron 42 in both environmental detail and character/facial animation.

[@CurtisD01]

yea cause this is 2014

[@davidtaves3213]

That's because Halo is pre-rendered, while this is running in real time

[@ProjectCould]

@@davidtaves3213 From what Matt Booty told Game Informer last year, the Halo: Infinite scene was the actual game running. Nevertheless, we’ll see what Halo will look like during Xbox’s first party showcase in July 2020.

[@baybudz8694]

@@ProjectCould Dead GAME, from the future

[@rlf9444]

lol

[@SuckItLily]

A true interactive movie! Kill it with fire.

[@orionjim2383]

I was wondering which software was used, or is it just a plugin in 1:50

[@J4Angel]

Ooh lord, pupils reacting to light, thats a bit overkill don't you think, nobody will see such details xD Still impressive though, not saying I don't like it ;) but don't go to overboard with all the high tech animation (in my opinion)

[@francy7896]

Spectacular ...!!!! ;-)

[@thomasramon9726]

And such an amazing rendering technology using bloodflow information to darken or whiten lips as they move is completely destroyed because of the background light smudges... Seriously, who thinks the final scene is beautiful when every time he nods his head, a purple stream races across his face ?

[@MajatekZawalski]

1:16 Jesus Christ how horrifying

[@bigboss8647]

Take notes Bioware, this, is how you animate facial expression,

[@Rorschach1998]

BioWare should learn a lot from This Game

[@andreicaritativo2022]

What would the world be if there is no: Euphoria Physics(Character Behaviours) Havok Physics(Destructible Environment) Snowdrop Engine(Used in Creating Environments and more) and Morpheme and this engine(morpheme have this specialty) Well, They are used in some games like GTA 4 & 5(Euphoria), Quantum Break(Morpheme), And Splinter Cell [I Think(Snowdrop)] Well if a game has this, It would cost 100+ millions, just like GTA 4, it's one of the most Expensive games ever made(fact) it cost 111 million dollars

[@Grumf.]

One question. Will this level of detail only be present in cutscenes or (as I hope and suppose) in gameplay as well ?

[@cpt.petergear2729]

In-game, realtime, with multiple characters of this level, in one scene. See 4:15

[@CrooperOrg]

1:17 Concentrated crucial childhood trauma.

[@mrhay]

Do the fish in the water react too?

[@derbybOyzZ]

fucking awesome!

[@powerblades]

This would be an incredible ps5 launch title

[@kendoug5722]

I can't wait to see gary oldman in rule34

[@FortniteDefiantTuber]

Mass effect andromeda facial animation looks as if a 4 year old child made it compared to this

[@CryingPanSFX]

0:20 Just Bishop.

[@Fortstorm]

1:17 GAAAAH!!!

[@atraxr603]

That spread out face skin looks kinda creepy. hahaha

[@哈比人-y1g]

Still waiting now.

[@slopedarmor]

2026 xD

[@GuestOfGregoryHouse]

When is this game released?

[@ki-os7645]

Squadron 42 is rumored to be released by the end of this year or early next year. The full game Star Citizen should be released around mid-late 2017 or anywhere 2018

[@300Xeon]

Mid 2018 I'd say. Mid-Late 2017 it will leave alpha and enter beta.

[@StrunDoNhor]

So incredibly close to over overcoming the uncanny valley, but dammit every time you get a good look at their eyes it just fails. It's especially prevalent in the CGI lady at 2:16. Looks good until she opens her eyes. Anyways, that aside this is all looking great. It's nothing new or ground-breaking, but the tech behind it and the end results are still great. It may not break the uncanny valley, but it's another step in the right direction, if nothing else.

[@davidralphsky]

Actually, I thought it looked amazing. Considering her eyes were closed and the way she was moving, the shiny eyes made me think she was about to cry, which might have been in the performance (we don't know because no audio).

[@BrazilianPeanutWar]

PAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARP!

[@Sweemops]

the question is, is it fun to play?

[@armedbadger]

While it looks absolutely stunning in cut scenes, I feel it will be much less spectacular in the game since you usually are not that close to a person you are talking. And all these wrinkles and eyelid thingies will simply go unnoticed. Screen resolutions are simply not yet ready to display them. Sad, 'cause tech looks really amazing.

[@APEXPR3D4TOR]

+armedbadger the hell are you talking about 4k will do just fine dont forget that windows can handle 8k now

[@armedbadger]

4K is still centuries away from being a PC standard. And 4K is not even close to what human eye can distinguish. So all those micro thingies are great, but not for the real gameplay. Yet. Unfortunately.

[@LOKIISLOCO]

+armedbadger well i play crysis 3 in 4k and its the same engine as this and the amount of new details i can see are insane compared to 1080p

[@LOKIISLOCO]

+Darth Vader Shitlord 4k 40 inch Phillips monitor btw if your monitor is tiny then it may be hard to notice

[@BoilingJD]

I don't think it will ever come out, they will just keep adding stuff, with years technologies will advance and they will keep adding and adding..

[@LOKIISLOCO]

+BoilingJD well they keep getting more and more crows funding so they keep upgrading they have 100$ million now i think thats enough

[@Afeeq1011]

i'm disturbed by the non existant eyelid.. is this what they called lifeless eyes?

[@MrStubbs8157]

+Nano Kumo You probably havent watched the video....very funny to see guys typing in things, that are total bullcrap from the beginning on....well done, sir! You got the award! They eyelid is moving everytime the actors eyelid moved. So, there is nothing wrong. They even have the eye reacting on lighting conditions and so on. You know, that this studio is doing all the good things, that you see in the movies? Please inform, please watch correctly and please present facts and not insta-bullshit....Would be great, kiddo!

[@Afeeq1011]

MrStubbs1981 i saw this vid and the comment was for the speech cutscene by gary oldman in other vid, not sure if oldman is the one who doesn't blink in the cuscene which lead me to thinking that the game have lifeless(?) Eyes.. But sure, i accept the award from you, a stranger..

[@MrStubbs8157]

+Nano Kumo You can see eye blinking and eyelid movement in all of the videos related to the speech. So, it simply wasnt true.

[@MrBrams946]

oh my gaaad

[@happybois]

Ironic that it all went to shit when the NPCs started applauding.

[@09dmb09]

1:16 2:10 CREEPY

[@YZOBEL5000]

Thats like source engine

[@davidralphsky]

Okay, I love the source engine as much as anyone, in fact HL2 graphics are my favourite of any game's graphics so far, but this is more advanced xD

[@Ewan_Gaming]

Конечно все круто, технологии там, вся фигня, но блин сколько денег уходит на Оулдмена и на эти сложные анимации? Я думаю люди ждут персистент юниверс, хорошую скелетную анимацию, высокий фпс, оптимизацию и синхронность кораблей и персонажей. Одиночная миссия на несколько часов, а ммо составляющая на года.

[@Nekrofuriano]

WTF 2:15 IS THAT CGI?? i cant barely see if its real or not LOL

[@Genesys1040]

+Nekrofuriano Ikr, i can't accept this as not real lol.

[@Kleavers]

It's great, but the only thing that seems off in the speech is the mouth. Like, it doesn't open realistically. It's too wide maybe. I don't know...it just seems...off.

[@ГурбангулыДубдагдыев]

Pinkie you?

[@Thuneralable]

ROBUST

[@AshrielDrummer]

This is super cool and impressive, but still nowhere near the level of realism I imagined for this project....

[@stuff2review]

the technology looks great but how comes this still looks more fake in action than faces in Battlefield 4?

[@neob8366]

+stuff2review Because the BF4 faces are pre-rendered and this is realtime.

[@MarcioSilva-vf5wk]

Now fix on the eyes guys, looks weird, missing proper SSS and better color values, color its too oversaturaded and the eye and skin connection is not that perceptible. Fix this and Bye Bye Uncany Valey.

[@ralph2361]

His hair looks off. Everything else looks good though.

[@THEunderscoreJOKE]

Face looks great but instantly ruined with the unrealistic looking gel-backed hair.

[@Effect_FX]

+THEunderscoreJOKE They've stated their not done with the hair.

[@THEunderscoreJOKE]

+Effect I hoped that that was the case but I didn't hear any mention of that in the videos. Could you elaborate on where you heard that please.

[@Effect_FX]

+THEunderscoreJOKE I'd have to dig it up, but it was a dev post in their forums

[@mmatrozz]

Please turn down whiteness of eyeballs, it ruins all the magic of your great job :(

[@infinnitegamer244]

+Eugene Fokin But everyone in the future bleaches their eyeballs... Its a fashion thing man dont question it.

[@mmatrozz]

+infinnitegamer244 oh yes eyeballs bleaching, thats explain everything for sure :/ But to be honest, it's such a shame that quality of character rendering in Maya viewport is way better then final rendering in engine. Sorry devteam but it's really lame :/

[@hydzior]

And the core mechanics and gameplay are still nonexistent.

[@davidralphsky]

Uhm, have you seen the Baby PU?

[@trico8]

Everything looks great, but the teeth. The teeth are too big, too clean and too straight, there is absolutely nothing realistic about them, especially considering Gary Oldman's teeth are far from spectacular.

[@MrRespen]

This is cool but... at some point they need to stop adding features to an unfinished game and just produce something I can enjoy in my lifetime.

[@dereksmart9658]

In no way is this going to be realtime. This is a promotion video, remember that. The game will be severely downgraded if it comes out, which in all likelihood will not.

[@Effect_FX]

+Derek Smart Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean others can't.

[@celestria4200]

+Effect this Derek guy needs to stop with the drama, due to cause no one like his game..

[@neob8366]

+Derek Smart Derek again. *facepalm*

[@KeepersDan]

+Derek Smart Ah Excellent, Derek Smart has extended me another opportunity to remind him that he's a untalented, spineless, spiteful, obnoxious failure. :)

[@srv86]

+Derek Smart Do you really just go to every possible website just to spread your irrelevant opinion? You remind me of Al Gore on South Park. Sure some people seem to listen to you, but that's only because they aren't part of the community either or even following the game. You aren't a genius that suddenly stumbled upon a holy grail revelation, you just base everything you say on personal "experience" and opinion that again is irrelevant. Yes, you are a developer, but that's the same as comparing a indie 2d retro developer with Naughty Dog. CIG has a lot of talented people who are working really hard on something special. If Rockstar or Dice or any big game dev came out with a game that was technically "impossible" in your eyes, you probably wouldn't question it. Hell, the characters in Battlefield 4 or Ryse look just as detailed as these...so what's so out of reach? Besides this is work in progress, it will only get better. I think the only reason you're pissed now is because of the pushed back release date, to you know, make the game better. You keep saying that your early access game is finished when it's finished, but go around and demand dates for Star Citizen left and right. Direct quote from you: "When will LOD be released... uhm ..I dunno! We were shooting for end of the year, it might happen..uh maybe final release. But all things being equal, sometime in 2016, I mean it's early access, you know, I'm not interested in uh releasing it... you know if it's not ready, ya I mean if there is no incentive, it's not like I'm doing it because I need the money, I don't need the money, so...When the game is finished, it's finished, that's why it's in early access. ....(blah blah blah)...But the good thing is I have a game that exists, you know, the game is playable. Aircraft's aren't in yet but.... it is what it is." That is...wow... and you expect what from CIG? Don't make me laugh...and don't bring up that because it's crowdfunded everyone deserves financials and audits and release dates and say on budget meetings and and and.... Everyone is an expert at everything these days. It's easy to criticize someone else's work but it's hard to sit back and admit when you are wrong. Let these people do their jobs! Anyway why fill your life with so much negativity to begin with? Your ego must be through the roof if you like to troll forums so much, but judging from your live podcasts, what you say there isn't proofread or written by "legal" because it's a bunch of nonsensical comedy. Shut up, save some face and ride the development storm. You aren't saving the world, it's just a video game, albeit a video game with huge potential. I'm tired of your shit.

[@Kowanpoop]

The end product does not look as amazing as how you described your process here. The facial animation ended up looking very outdated, stiff and lifeless.

[@Effect_FX]

+pupulicious Looks good to me, I imagine the end product will be better.

[@HelpfulPlez]

+pupulicious I disagree. I think it looked pretty good. (#opinions)

[@Kowanpoop]

+Effect They already uploaded the opening showing Gary Oldman doing a speech and it's not that remarkable at all.

[@Effect_FX]

My point still stands?

[@Kowanpoop]

+HelpfulPlez The footage with Gary Oldman(the whole opening speech) they uploaded had unremarkable facial animation IMO.