Squadron 42 May Progress Update - What’s Going On With Development?!

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[@phaaroyt]

For the true Star Citizen experience, they need to port the AI standing on chairs over to Squadron 42 (despite it being "fixed" every patch).

[@FunkThompson]

Bug? That's not a bug. That's just what people do in the future...

[@FrazzleCat]

@@FunkThompson Their feet are very tired, but at least it's not their faces.

[@h3llofademon]

The NPC's were properly sitting in chairs until the EPTU patch 2 days ago. I have screenshots from Orison. Then a patch hit and they were even T-posing on top of chairs and trying to walk through signs.

[@FunkThompson]

@@h3llofademon PICTURES OR IT DIDN'T HAPPEN (Can't post pics to YT...) :D

[@masonmax1000]

they dont T pose in 3.23 they sit in mid air now...

[@PLK217video]

I need to learn the difference between ""Squadron 42 May progress" and "Squadron 42 may progress"

[@swinuyasha]

Or may not 😂

[@throdwobblermangrove6200]

To be honest, at the moment I just looking for one video: "3.23 is now live"

[@MultiFishslayer]

No one knows. CIG is giving zero communication on 3.23. Every time CIG has a fail they just go silent.

[@TomikCsvk]

I hope it will never go live, not with the new stupid flight modes anyway...

[@FrazzleCat]

It's going to be a fairly buggy experience, it's lacking hangars, and it's lacking cargo updates. It's a bunch of UI updates and "kill 15 whatsits". It's a bunch of welcomed updates, don't get me wrong, but not a lot is left to be so hyped about.

[@raathh]

real

[@Mr.Universe]

@@TomikCsvkI honestly like the flight model, Although I wish CIG would grow some balls and make this game more like DCS.

[@sanctred]

There is so much pressure on sq42 being seen as a success. It’s going to be hard to see SC finish if sq42 releases as a failure.

[@sanctred]

@@molochz although I do agree with your logic I do not believe that is CIGs intentions. That said, managing expectations and perceptions is a real thing and it’s going to only get harder for both games.

[@korbentherhino]

Chris Robert's wants glory not a paycheck.

[@sanctred]

@@korbentherhino Right, I’ve never felt like SC is a cash grab. The money goes to development of a crazy to achieve vision that chris is determined to see come to reality.

[@deuswulf6193]

@@molochz The increase in scope matches the budget. What else are you supposed to do when you listed a bunch of stretch goals and ended up achieving close to $700 million in crowd funding (to date)? You don't just make a $50 million dollar game with that kind of money.

[@sanctred]

@@molochz That’s not correct. The community voted multiple times to increase game scope knowing it would impact timelines. CIG has been pretty open compared to most games in this stuff.

[@The_Fallen_1]

I'd be quite surprised if there wasn't a SQ42 release date reveal at Citizencon, even if it is just one for a quarter rather than a specific day.

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Yea, just like last year.

[@Betmonty]

I suspect that "Burning down" here means "pushing through" or "jamming out" -- it's a reference to getting tasks completed quickly to finish out a sprint, or deliverable, or milestone basically. (Similar to "burning down a boss" in like MMO play, I suppose)

[@TheDestroyer702]

I've become more excited for SQ42 than the PU lately

[@Octobouch]

Ecause its the only finished, polished, complete CIG product in sight

[@goffe2282]

SQ42 is the only reason I backed SC. the PU will just be a PvP gank fest. I may show up if a single-player button like ED has is implemented, but otherwise I'll most likely only play SQ42.

[@deuswulf6193]

@@goffe2282 I share your concerns. Space sim has largely been a relaxing type of game, which could easily be ruined with "gank" behavior from other players. I could see a PvE server being a viable alternative, or a situation where the outside world ends up being instanced for one person, while the stations and cities act as multiplayer hubs.

[@DopeyFish]

@@deuswulf6193 that'll change when the other nearby major systems get in. Terra will be the ideal starting area for people and should be relatively safe. Stanton was obviously chosen as the first SC system largely because it's a balanced system... it's got everything. Terra likely won't prevent the bad behaviour but it will probably strongly discourage it.

[@deuswulf6193]

@@DopeyFish Based on what I have seen in the past with other games, the "bad" behavior happens regardless, in fact it might be encouraged more when the setting is meant to discourage it, as that ramp's up the challenge for that type of player. I really do hope they put a focus on modes of play, so that every "citizen" can opt into the one they are in the mood for.

[@Joshua.M.S.]

I think SQ42 release will be Fall of 2025, giving them time for a large marketing campaign outside of those of us already backing the project.

[@Donald5557_]

Yeah they’ve gotta market the game more.

[@mikevachon8752]

The number of updates just seems unreal since the slow pace the last two years or so.

[@Ravage2734b]

These two statements seem to contradict one another

[@Hanneth]

Thats because many of the features we are getting in this patch were created for SQ42, but time wasn't spent to make them work in a multiplayer environment. That combined with a large portion of the team coming back, or over from SQ42 to work on Star Citizen means we are getting quite a bit of the 2 years of features in SQ42 in 1 patch. We also have Vulkan and replication layer, which were supposed to be in the last patch, slipping to this patch. We still have more features coming over from SQ42 like Maelstrom in later patches.

[@RosscoAW]

Weird, it's almost like their pace hasn't been slow at all, they've just finally decided to act like proper devs and stop treating their pre-alpha patch cycles like live releases, enabling them to actually get work done properly.

[@Hanneth]

​@@RosscoAWNo, they've just been really focused on getting SQ42 out. A few years ago there were about 500 devs. 300 of them working on SQ42, 100 shared and 100 on Star Citizen. I cant find the date, but CR announced more of a focus on SQ42, which had the shared developers amd some PU devs move to SQ42. There were about 800 devs at that time and Star Citizen devs went to about 100. There were still some things, like props, that would come over from SQ42, or key game play features. They got to about 1000 employees recently with about 200 of them working on Star Citizen. Then late last year with SQ42 being feature complete, they moved the majority of people over to Star Citizen. The balance will change again when work starts on episode 2, but I think Star Citizen will probably still have a slightly higher number of people.

[@matthewnewton6495]

A 2025 release for squadron 42 would be great. We’ll see if it happens…

[@keithancajas4623]

roberts may keep saying it's close, but one only needs to look at the state of the PTU to know that SQ42 is nowhere near completion.

[@AYYEPIC]

@@keithancajas4623 ah yes because they are definitely closely linked in stability and quality. 🤦‍♂

[@keithancajas4623]

@@AYYEPIC you can facepalm all you want, but the answer is yes they are most definitely closely linked in stability and quality seeing as they are develop concurrently for the most part and heavily borrow each other's tech. obviously sq42 is a single player and is not subject to server code for the most part, but if you think that is the only issue facing SC then good luck to you facepalming hero.

[@justhere2travel]

Oh it's happening.

[@frogger2011ify]

​@@AYYEPICit's all cry engine...the same issues will be present

[@StillnessInMotion88]

Tbh, sq42 is something I am looking forward to more than the pu. Ah, things are always in flux so hopefully one day cig manages to find a middleground that works for everyone.

[@Creepy-Girl]

I'm so hyped for SQ42, what we have seen so far look just beyond amazing. So far it looks to be one of those games that will be remembered for the decades.

[@Michael-CS]

Yeah I agree with one of your other posters; I'm kinda more excited about SQ42 than I am the PU right now. Having some linear progression that may be psuedo on rails is not a bad thing when you've been grinding 6 ways from sunday for the last few years.

[@dollopofcrazy5596]

I believe getting the flight model right is so important and am very glad hear master modes refinements make be making their way back into SQ42. I hope this continues!!!!

[@captaincbot6701]

Squadron 42 is going to bring a lot of new attention to Star Citizen, meaning that the PU should be in a reasonable state before Squadron 42 releases.

[@TheitaniofRome]

No. Sq42 is the original project we backed. Star citizen is feature creep. The MMO part can come later.

[@G0DKILLER_]

@@TheitaniofRome your actually stupid, if you want this.

[@TheitaniofRome]

@@G0DKILLER_ it's the facts regardless of what I want. SC was never originally a part of the project.

[@mayhem1577]

Based on how we are used to CIG doing things the release is soon tm....meaning another 3 years lol

[@naraanasyra4904]

I'm exited for SQ42, it's been too long since a great scifi epic RPG so my hopes are high!

[@caiooca5793]

Keep em low if you wdon't want to get disappointed.

[@jch1386]

There's a chance citizencon next year might see SQ42, with an announcement for it this year. I'm not convinced of it, but there's a non-zero chance.

[@mattcavy1934]

Early 2025 might be ambitious, but I do think they intend on announcing some sort of release at CitCon. I have been a bit curious if they are going to let content creators get a go at it before official release.

[@hansyolo9649]

Release around Citcon 25 sounds a little more reasonable.

[@chocolate5217]

I´ve backed this project for Squadron 42...how long ago? 11 years??? 😂

[@FeathersMcClaw]

Very excited for SQ42. Expecting a release date announcement at CitCon

[@Tulah]

I'm a little bit less optimistic about the estimate for release time, but we'll see. It's good to not overhype oneself for such a thing as it could get pushed back as well if something goes wrong (probably less likely now, but still)

[@CastleBravo023]

Lemme hire NPCs to help crew my Corsair’s guns! NPC crew are already IN THE GAME on enemy ships, darnit! XD

[@Duvoncho]

Or even just blades would do!. They just don't want players to have control on their turrets as well as the pilot controlled weapons. Just let me fire my warden's turrets.

[@Ravage2734b]

They just said in the latest release of ISC, that it will be a WHILE down the road before we can do that.

[@Jeremy_Walker]

@@Ravage2734byeah, no time soon for some reason.

[@dex6147]

Server meshing 1st

[@OhAwe]

@@dex6147 Nah we need some more new ships to buy

[@vextoro]

Personally I just can't wait to see a full, completely modeled and walkable fleet in SC/SQ42!

[@theintergalacticlanparty3738]

The $20 addon s42 combo will be one of the best purchases I ever made in the verse. I hope they have a Feb 16th 2025 release it would fit so well into the history of the Vandull

[@bobs9481]

It's fantastic to hear 42 is almost ready to be released. I've been waiting since the day I joined star citizen back in the beginning when I joined when they offered me a free copy when it's released.

[@CockroachKing666]

I've finally gotten to a place that I'm ok with delays. They are showing progress in general and that's good. Bring good games back!

[@danielb.927]

I am curious to see what "refinements" they can extract from live servers running at 5 FPS. Doesn't sound quite right.

[@RunicRasol]

I really hope squadron 42 plays as good as it has been looking from what we have seen.

[@RealGyouza]

It would be great to get a timeline on SQ42 and even better to get to play it. Can hope it would really show off what could be.

[@JMWrites]

I really regret not picking up a copy when I bought the SC package, especially now that it's been removed from store and will likely be relisted at a higher price.

[@Fenrir152]

Excited to play the single player, but I kind of hope they get the key bindings for both games figured out so that skills learned in one transfer to the other

[@helloitsjay38]

I wonder how flexible sq42 will be with ship selection for missions. Like will we see people doing challenge runs in wacky ships like prospector or vultures?

[@Ravage2734b]

it won't be something you can' choose" from.. its going to be a story driven game where you are IN the military... you'll fly the ship yo are assigned . Sometimes that will be in a single flyer, and other times you'll either be piloting a multicrew ship, or in the turret. Its going to be much like it was in Wing Commander.

[@wdipuccio]

I think there will only be a few ships available to fly in squadron since we are on a navy carrier that houses gladius's (gladii? LOL). My guess is that we will get to fly stuff like the gladius and F8C and maybe the occasional industry or pirate ship if we are forced to fly one when a mission calls for it in the moment but i don't see there being an option to pick any ship you want

[@Conner_2100]

I cant wait to get my hands on SQ42. I just know it will be a great way to get my friends into the PU because they like storyline games

[@Lord_Azrizus]

Looking forward to playing Squadron 42. Can’t wait for it!

[@Xenon676]

CIG policy: "Always come up with an excuse to never release anything"

[@Roach606]

Womp womp

[@edwin.v]

Putting PU changes back into SQ42 does make sense. Not every change might make sense, but nobody stops learning and there are bound to be good ideas that help polish the sq42 experience as well.

[@Elobomg]

Squadron 42 is going to be an epic single-player experience.

[@jamiefolds5295]

Hoping completing sq42 will as it was always discussed give us a perk in there persistent world as being a soldier with access to military stores

[@MeatSalad84]

I really want to see the alien carriers! I wonder how "far along" those ships are...

[@romanwiller2180]

I think they will give a launch date for SQ42 at CitCon, and probably a tentative 1.0 launch date as well.

[@lovestyrke]

I would love for CIG to offer SQ42 for backers of SC one last time before it is released publicly. I think they would make some decent income if they offered possible 10-20% off retail to SC backers. I know I would be in line to buy it.

[@RedKing1337]

I really can’t wait for this citizen con and hopfully meet these actors

[@Dome665]

Tbh I'm happy they are moving updates both ways, will make both games better for us 😅

[@marcjensen9080]

More heads? Cool. I'm looking forward to being able to make a version of myself in the PU. 😆

[@SirGhost251]

Nice progress on S42, I wonder how quiet the PU will be when it finally comes out

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

There will never be a SC beta because we are beta testing individual features in the alpha. Great video again!🎉

[@plyssken1983]

Hope the launch date isn't too far away, the game is looking really good.

[@Elementarian]

Yeah expecting a release date for SQ42 at CitCon, and for SC expecting news on upcoming systems that are already on the way after Pyro and Server Meshing.

[@bappo2693]

Wow! Maybe my grandkids will see the Chapter 0 of SQ42 preview demo!

[@Beerus]

Getting back into star citizen after a few years being away, so love checking out your vids to find out all the new info! Wouldnt mind winning that C1 either

[@operationorigami8962]

I hope the "final stretch" doesn't take 3 years to get done, I really want to play SQ42

[@Knort]

Looking great, but i hope they get rid of the "kill confirm" hit marker, i can tolerate hit markers, but the kill confirm doesnt make any sense to me

[@Consisto7]

I am hopeful about the game, would really like it to succeed so we can have some epic gameplay moments.

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

any update on when we'll be able to purchase SQ42 again on the store ? My friends are more interested in the solo experience than SC' open world (PVP and griefers are legion)

[@BeardbaroNUK]

Getting to meet Mark Hamill at Citizencon would be mind blowing 😂 roll on SQ42!

[@Ryecrash617]

Glad to hear SQ42 is getting close. I'm still not going to get my hopes up for it yet.

[@Thepapeman]

This Citizencon could be one for the books with all the news we will get on SQ42 and the future of SC. Looking forward to what it all could be.

[@SJkopa]

How long is the play time for Squadrons 42? Why is there no explanation for that information?

[@snowmind]

A SQ42 update, huh? Kinda rare...

[@Storm_Dev]

Is there any info on how much Squadron 42 will cost? I vehemently do not want anything like a subscription service or anything like that. I'm hoping that it can be a once time purchase of $60 or something. Also, is there any word on how long with single player will be? I hear this talk about "chapters," I'm just hoping that I can get a good 40 - 60 hours out of this single player. Is that too high of an expectation for a game that's been in development for 13 years?

[@z-eight6274]

2025 seems fair for SQ42, very excited and curious to see the depth of the single player experience.

[@TennysonEStead]

I don't want to guess what the release date of Squadron will be, and I don't know if CIG is planning an extended Beta, but I do expect to have either the open Beta or the release announced at CitizenCon. We shall see!

[@xugans99]

Lol, I like how they make something in SQ42, bring it to the PTU, then bring it back to SQ42

[@Deorwen]

Maybe they are going to put Squadron 42 back on sale at Invictus, to get more sales over the two week period.

[@koffeekage]

S42 looks really nice. Hope its more than just looks.

[@fuzzybunny7565]

I hope the story for SQ42 ends up as good as it seems it could be.

[@averybowles5953]

It's coming up. Looking forward to it.

[@GendoMaoken]

Cant wait to play SQ42, a game in SC universe, and without lags!!!! HYPE

[@Schooterl]

This is going to be a beautiful campaign, can't wait!

[@noctis_actual]

Common saying made by Bored gamer: "That sort of Jazz". Love it.

[@generalvictorironraven.1347]

there is a list of vanduul ships I'm looking forward to. namely the void bomber and Cleaver boarding ship.

[@popculture70]

SQ42 will be the first video game where all the voice actors died of old age by the time the game released.

[@Xzor]

Hyped for when CIG start moving to polish phase. Things are really going to be interesting then.

[@RosscoAW]

That's.... literally... I mean, did you not listen to this video? My guy... 🤣 everything they're working on rn for SQ42 is unironically *only* down-stream polish... lmao

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Did you miss the Sq42 trailer from 2023 Citizen Con. In it Richard Tyrer said Sq42 was feature complete and that it had moved to the polish phase then. With that a lot of the Sq42 devs shifted to PU development to push Sq42 features to the PU. This basically means we are beta testing Sq42 features and gameplay in the PU.

[@korbentherhino]

This is polish phase. They made the house now they are making it a nice house.

[@jwg72]

So the change is that development is happening in both branches? I'm not sure if that is really a change?

[@Ravage2734b]

I think those that "assumed" we would be releasing in 12 months purely because they were in the "polish" stage of SQ42, weren't being realistic. So I think no matter when the date is released, most will just have the "its about time" AND the "it will be delayed" reaction. Doesn't matter that nearly every AAA game released today has to have patches to actually make the game enjoyable (Starfield).... SQ42 will always be viewed at with a different perspective.... WHICH very well could mean they will want to take a bit more time to polish, since they know this as well.

[@kivori3438]

Star citizen already has tons of haters so i hope they dont cater towards that crowd and actually finish it.

[@DerKopfsammler666]

They're probably at the end of the polishing phase then if they're moving so many devs to the SC PU development, but what about the other SQ42 episodes past the first?

[@hansyolo9649]

CIG's naming convention is a bit confusing, these episodes are completely separate games of a trilogy like Mass Effect 1,2 and 3. Don't expect CIG to start working on the second game before the release of Squadron.

[@philipp270799]

Would love to have a release during christmastime.

[@rasferrastfarian739]

I hope/think that there will be a release date for Su42 at Citizencon this year! Progress is rattling along!

[@AI40K]

I wasn't particularly fussed about S42, but seeing more of the footage etc it does look pretty interesting :D

[@BazureSkyslash]

Really looking forward to SQ42, hoping it doesn't disappoint.

[@MKDAWUSS]

Maybe they'll show us something of substance for Fleet Week? Doubt it, though.

[@T3hBr0k3nM0nk3y]

Godspeed, devs! Good stuff, Bored! Be well, citizens! 😉👍

[@RakasansLegacy]

I think the earliest we will see it will probably be 2nd-3rd quarter of 2025. If it comes sooner, I will be amazed.

[@jshreyer]

I am VERY hopeful for a release date this year!

[@cloudy01-p7c]

I hope we can visit the squadron 42 locations in the PU whenever that happens like those big destroyed ship things, or locations on planets. and also I hope those locations will have cool easter eggs like loot or something

[@fr33ksh0w1029]

i will not give into the hype....i will not give into the hype *watches a concrete barrier fall apart from gunfire* Well shit....

[@The_Opinion_of_Matt]

Did you miss the Sq42 trailer from Citizen Con?

[@fr33ksh0w1029]

@@The_Opinion_of_Matt No I was sick during citizen con and life kept me busy so I never really got to watch them. that has been corrected over these last few days

[@istvaantycho8337]

Very much looking forward to seeing how this shapes up!

[@caiooca5793]

A friendly advice, stop keeping your hopes up for Squadron 42 release next year. And if they do release next year, you'd be willing they waited another 5 years.

[@alexvc4828]

Looking forward to it! Thanks for the updates Bored!

[@3xpain]

as MM is incomplete i would expect them to transfer any progress on MM over to SQ42. right now MM seems to be a heavy brawl it out style of game play. I would love for the cinematic chases to still be a thing as it develops

[@larryzach7880]

No real excitement, no real disappointment, but when it FINAAAALLLLYYYY releases,it has already changed the face of game development from a money grab into a ”imI don't give a damn ill be done with this when I am damn well ready. " Games will no longer be business after this they will be art to the point of reversing this effect. Meaning going from the greatest crowd funding project ever sent to the most artistic tragedy in gaming history. Y'all know I'm right.,... Wait and see.

[@Anachroschism]

I suspect there will be a massive drop in PU/PTU players with the release of SQ42, so hopefully that doesn't slow down patch testing. I look forward to seeing if I can modify SQ42, after I've played through it once.

[@robotlazer2000]

Here's to hoping that SQ42 comes in hot.

[@mooremusic96]

So excited for Squadron 42 🙌🏻

[@chrispittom9169]

It will be great to see a release date. Hopefully, it won't release to late next year.

[@joshuaableiter4545]

What I'm hearing is that CIG is FINALLY getting through the final stages of ORGANIZING THEIR STAFF...THAT, is NOT a milestone to indicate the game is nearing the end of development. It's easy to be convinced of that because of how productive some of the teams may be, getting to the point some of them are begging for work to do at times...But, again...that does not indicate the game is nearing completion. It's a critical mistake, as they're still ironing out the pipelines/workflow. It sounds like they'll only be an organized company for 6 months before release. That makes it sound like the game will release in a horrible "minimum viable product" state where everything is as chaotic as if we were Chris Roberts trying to organize the game company himself... What would be ideal is to do the work while you have an organized company for at least 2 years. Think about it. Over the past 12 years, most of the work that has been done has been to get the right people working together. It almost sounds like CIG wants to see finally getting everyone organized as the completion of the game...like...nooooooo....getting everyone in the company organized and working together does NOT mean the game is done...as if you would send everyone home and stop working on the game as soon as the company is in that state...like that's all we wanted was to see an organized company...no...we want to see the company that is FINALLY organized spending 2 to 4 years working in that maximum state of productivity. Otherwise it won't be worth it. It won't be worth it to put all the effort into organizing people that you did...it you only utilize that miracle for a mere 6 months. That would be an insult to all the effort that was put into organizing them. Please...spend time working on the game AFTER everyone is organized...DON'T see the company finally being in a state where everyone is organized as a milestone indicating the game is near completion. It's not. You just got the company organized enough to work productively. Utilizing the company while it's in that state for half a year after 12 years of putting it together makes it so NONE OF IT will have been worth it...a complete waste and an insult to yourselves/each other. For the last time...Please...PLEASE...make the company's ideal state last for more than a year...and actually use it for what it's worth. It's not everyday you get thousands of people working on the same thing in such an organized way. Please don't throw that in the trash after 6 months like it's some common thing. It's not, and you need to treat it that way. Utilize the company being in that state to its full potential, which means for at least 2 years...hopefully you can keep the company so optimized for 4 or more years...and actually make good use of it...Don't throw it out and then regret it like it's dust in the wind...

[@HazerDaGreek]

Awesome video Bored! I wonder if they can implement some AI voice commands as part of the in game interaction such as looking things up on the galactapedia.

[@DumbTrollface]

I'd say we'll see SQ42 mid next year. But I also wouln't be surprised for it to be pushed to later in the year.