Squall vs Ultimecia | Dissidia: Final Fantasy | Destiny Odyssey VIII-5

[@Arkain89]

Ultimecia spoke more in this game than in the 8th FF.

[@shitpickleX]

+Arkain89 She spoke loads in ff8. She possesed Edea remember? Sure it was Edea's body but it was still Ultimecia who spoke through it the whole time.

[@Arkain89]

Sterling Archer But even Edea under her control doesn't say much. You spend most of your time running after her, and you only run into her at the end of disc 1 & 2. At that point she says some generic stuff, like how much she loves war and she's so evil and everyone should be real scared, boss fight, and then ending. Edea's character is developed during throughout the game, but Ultimecia's really feels like it comes out of nowhere.

[@KinjiroTheThunder]

@@Arkain89 I thought you were referring to physical voices like in Dissidia

[@unlimited971]

@@Arkain89 you would even say out of time...

[@GuardianNewtonTurner]

WHAT WAS HER

[@PhantomR32]

I love the hints at little things that Dissidia takes from the old games. Like Zidane's quote "you don't need a reason to help people" and Squall at 2:49 when he puts the sword in front of his face, like the old picture from the original game. Also Zidane taking on Garland? That's definitely a nod to Zidane fighting Garland in his own game.

[@philithegamer8265]

Did you even play FF9?

[@canchanyyuki]

@@philithegamer8265 I don't want to get into it because I could spoil something on someone. But he's 100% right they're all nods to their main titles, I feel like he has played it.

[@humblekuro7926]

Am I the only one that loves squalls character design?

[@leanmixer6291]

Kuro a copy cat of chrollo from hunter x hunter

[@darkslayerstyle1745]

lean mixer he doesnt even look like squall

[@spoonsharkart4550]

lean mixer squall predates him as well

[@spoonsharkart4550]

Kuro I love squall's character design but I prefer the original costume over the dissidia version

[@holyflame2]

lean mixer Didn't Squall Leonhart came up first?

[@Darktommy3]

shall we dance... a recall of the teory "Rinoa is ultimecia"...

[@hiddenflare6169]

Darktommy3 pretty sure that theory got big after this game had these lines even tho it likely wasn’t the intention.

[@NormalfellaStephen]

Also debunked by the director

[@a.h.8578]

I love seeing someone that's stoic like Squall interact with someone that's energetic and talkative like Zidane. Squall keeping his rude comments to himself is hilarious.

[@hiddenflare6169]

A. H. Trust me he does have a similar relationship with another guy whose name starts with z.

[@michealgironimo603]

Zell

[@marckevin203]

@@hiddenflare6169 and I believe so Squall's friendship with Zidane. Is quite similar with Irvine since both guy tends to hit girls all the time.

[@tarawilson8259]

Does anyone else think a Final Fantasy 8 Remake would be really cool?

[@DarksideGaming]

tara wilson me, I loved FF8

[@omerozel4716]

tara wilson Me

[@pg40987]

tara wilson Me

[@TheSilverPhoenix100]

If they massively retooled the broken junction system, and changes some dialog so the vast majority of characters dont come across as incompetent then yeah it could work

[@omerozel4716]

Mitochondria Raine i like the gf system but don't like the draw mechanic and the whole weapon system. but i enjoy making magic out of items.

[@CrnaStrela]

he did said something like this in original Final Fantasy VIII: "Right and wrong are not what separate us and our enemies. It's our different standpoints, our perspectives that separate us. Both sides blame one another. There's no good or bad side. Just two sides holding different views." So yeah, for him he has no enemy

[@SuperKeith00]

"I only came to fulfill my promise" "Thanks for waiting"-Squall "Shall we have this dance" -Ultimecia Sounds like underlining hidden messages to me.

[@guts-141]

Debunked theory Maybe it's just her quoting Rinoa because she possessed her for a while

[@ultimatewarriors1291]

@@guts-141 whos rinoa

[@sparkxzz]

Zidanes voice is exactly how I imagined Zells.

[@MH3Raiser]

"I know that I'm not alone... that's why I can fight by myself!" What a beautiful way to sum up post-FFVIII Squall. He's still a 'loner', but he's not 'alone'. He prefers to handle things himself in the same way he used to when he was afraid of relying on others, but now it's because he wants to lighten their load... and even beyond that, he trusts them to have his back. He changed without changing at all, if that makes any sense?

[@The_Gallowglass]

Yeah, like Gandalf the Grey becoming Gandalf the White. Kill the boy Jon Snow. Let the man be born.

[@joeywomer]

Did Squall just summon his sword like a Keyblade?

[@petercampi2840]

Well, he did hold a Keyblade briefly in KH1... and Dissidia was originally going to be a KH fighting game...

[@Ninetails2000]

Everyone can do it in Dissidia if they have a weapon to use.

[@yummychips_]

@@Ninetails2000 yep. All items, gear, and armor, are meta physical.

[@bja808]

The fact that Squall reacted to Ultimecia’s trap the second he unfreezes from her time attack is pretty bad ass

[@DenisK21]

These two deal with the finite passage of time similarly, yet differently. Squall, unable to deal with the fact that not even people last forever, tried to close himself up so he wouldn't have to feel the pain of loss. But his adventure helped him realize that even if you're not always with someone, having been with them at all is still worth it, and you can still fight for them when you're alone. The past is past, and the future's yet to come, so enjoy the present while you can. Ultimecia, however, never learned this. Much of her is a mystery, but we do know that she simply can't cope with happier times ending. She seeks to erase the very concept, just so time won't take things away from her present. So of course, the whole "even apart, we fight together" thing is completely alien to her.

[@skysquall-s]

DenisK21 yeah.everybody need a reason for a full living..often that s for someone or people who they feel worthed live for,sacrifice,share for.. maybe squall deep down just afraid of become spoiled ,from having someone to stay by side then after that gone, leaving squall with emptyness,from losing that happiness he once had.so it kindd of has bright side n dark side by having loyal friends,close famiky or lover by ur side.because everyone will leave us eventually,if not we first leave them..n by that i mean break up,conflict, or death. but in the end i believe no one really want to be alone,lives alone in this world.without any social interaction n someone to talk or share,we might as well as be dead.inside... craving for company

[@SaraphDarklaw]

@@skysquall-s No. You should live for yourself. That needs to be reason enough. Needing others to feel full is co-dependence. That’s ultimately self-destructive. Your life should feel full before you invite others to join you.

[@The_Gallowglass]

@@SaraphDarklaw "Needing others to feel full is co-dependence." that in itself is a paradox. No man is an island. (:

[@BlackWingedSeraphX]

I love how she has 1 HP left, an all Squall has is 1 Attack Point and just chases her ass down and finishes her! XD

[@CardCaptorDeadpool]

Was just gonna post this.

[@Sarcopagusmonster]

2:49 is the cover art to the classic FFviii game awesome reference!

[@rapidfire9999]

A lion never lets his prey escape!

[@Ninetails2000]

1:08-Garland can literally see the asskicking coming from a mile away and he still did nothing to stop it. XP

[@AllyOJustice]

"And because, he's my friend." Wow, that actually seemed painful for him to say.

[@mrguy22494]

This scene is why Squall is my favorite character.

[@IAmTheStig32]

0:52 Squall reacts to being jumped 2-on-1 like a badass.

[@holyflame2]

Yang Xiao Long Well it would be out of character for Squall to act all scared and shit.

[@oneyeseesin3D]

2:09- 2:23 this line is beyond chilling if you subscribe to the squall is dead theory

[@Rallonorm]

No comment

[@NormalfellaStephen]

The creator debunked it lel

[@Manu858585]

She forgot to lift her Finger to the Stars, after "Shall we dance?" :P

[@MultiCrimsonRain]

At 1:50 , What Ultemicia really meant to say: "THE WORLD!!!!" Lol

[@V1tunpr0]

And why's that?

[@MultiCrimsonRain]

.......you've never seen JoJo have you?

[@romera27]

Crimson Rain Mudamudamudamudamuda!!!

[@neuromancer0096]

Crimson Rain ZA WARUDO

[@asbebers001]

+Crimson Rain Not quite, my friend: she actually meant ZA WARUDOOOOO!!!!

[@CacadasdeFoghart]

When Dissidia came out, I was like "Oh god, will Squall use all his renzokuken moves from FF8? It would be AWESOME because those moves were so badass, those with 7 and 8 hits was godlike!" Then he mimics Irvine Normal Shot Limit Break (Solid Barrel) and do a MachineGun-like trigger in the air... (Beat Fang)

[@Faux-Paws]

"That was no enemy of mine." Even though the sorceress is a SeeD's biggest enemy? GG Squall

[@metalikarm]

I'm sure someone has posted this...When Ultimecia freezes time, listen closely... "Fithos--Lusec--Wecos--Vinosec" Still gives me the chills. I wish The Extreme was the full song, but I am glad they put it here.

[@x_KodaWolf_x]

Can you link to when this happens? I havent noticed that before.

[@metalikarm]

Listen closely after she froze time. 2:01 to 2:19 best with headphones. Its actually the opening to The Extreme as it was in the game.

[@Vmigo123]

metalikarm The full song is in the game! But yeah I'd admit it'd be cool to have the full song playing through that whole cinematic.

[@vynonyoutube1418]

It's also the chorus playing in Succession Of Witches, another theme in FFVIII related to Sorceresses.

[@OmegasWorkshop]

OK That clip of Zidane drop kicking Garland will never get old

[@lowhighkangLHK]

What's interesting is that at 1:38 / 1:39 you see Ultimecia point upwards when she says "shall we dance." Much like Rinoa does.

[@NormalfellaStephen]

Debunked theory, director said so himself

[@MH3Raiser]

The woman who tried to make eternity the present and the man who learned that the present can last for eternity.

[@LOREWITHBLAZER]

Kindom hearts fan- Oh look it’s Leon

[@SonicBlue92]

All comment statistics of this video: 99.9%.- "Rinoa is Ultimecia" theory (FLAME WAR) 0.1%- something else

[@LoneGamerNerd]

Which is seriously a bullshit theory. There is a _lot_ of content they removed from the game that would certainly debunk that theory entirely.

[@SonicBlue92]

***** Indeed. Some people still think that this theory is still valid, even though Square confirmed themselves that it was invalid. But, you know: closed-mindedness, self-righteousness, and ignorance gets the best of them as always.

[@LoneGamerNerd]

It's one thing to believe it's a theory. It's another to go around _actually_ claiming it's true when, regardless of what you believe, it is still only speculation. I honestly think most whom believe the SiD theory don't actually know why they do. Where is the _real_ evidence to support it? When you ask them certain questions regarding the theory, they can never answer them. On top of that, it has way too many holes to be legit.

[@ichan4215]

After hearing that the "Rinoa is Ultimecia" theory is debunked, I still can't find myself accepting it. Not because I want more evidence, but because personally, the narrative seems more coherent if Rinoa was Ultimecia. I mean, let's be honest: Ultimecia is a rather "empty" villain. While I get the "she is evil for evil's sake" argument, you have to agree that it's a rather weak motivation for a Final Fantasy villain. Why did she want time compression to happen in the first place? "To be a living god," it says on the wiki. Of what, exactly? She's the only one capable of living through the whole thing. There's nothing to gratify her: no one to enslave, no one to punish, no nothing. IDK, but if it were Rinoa, I'd think she was trying to compress time to, you know, be with Squall, one way or another. As for the Squall is Dead: hear, hear. :) I find the explanation rather lacking. Such a strong assertion requires strong evidence, too. At the end of the day, I'm not claiming my opinion as fact; I'm acknowledging that my reasoning could actually be weak, and I welcome any bit of info that might have sailed over my head. Please try and do so constructively, though. I shall try to be equally polite and constructive. :)

[@LoneGamerNerd]

I have reasons for not believing R=U either. I'll list them and try to keep it short: 1) Ultimecia tries to kill Rinoa twice: once in Deling City, and then when she leaves her to die in space. This would effectively prevent Ultimecia from existing if she had succeeded 2) Rinoa herself says that Time Compression would make it so Ultimecia *"is the only one whom could exist in such a world. She, and no other."* . Wouldn't this mean Squall could not exist as well? So her trying to reunite with him would be in vain if he couldn't live in her "perfect world" anyway. 3) Ultimecia also tries to kill _Squall_ , in Deling City. That, right there, puts a damper in plans. If she wanted to reunite with him, why would she try and kill him? People have argued "because she doesn't remember him due to Griever" _(being a GF and all)_ . But then, if she doesn't remember Squall...that would make her venture to bring him back to her completely pointless. 4) Before the second battle with Edecia _(Edea+Ultimecia)_ in Galbadia Garden, she refers to Squall as *"the Legendary SeeD destined to face me"* . This at least serves as indication there is something more going on regarding her motives. She speaks to Squall directly and _still_ does not seem to recognize him. The R=U theory contradicts itself on multiple accounts, and even Ultimecia and Rinoa defy it. Ultimecia's own words at the end of the game are: *"SeeD... SeeD, SeeD... SeeD, SeeD, SeeD! Kurse all SeeDs. Swarming like lokusts akross generations. You disgust me. The world was on the brink of that ever-elusive Time Kompression. Insolent fools. Your vain krusade ends here, SeeD! The price for your meddling is death beyond death. I will send you to a world beyond your imagination. There, I will reign, and you will be my slaves for eternity. HAHAHAHA. Whom shall I exterminate first?! I'll start with you three!"* This quote alone speaks volumes of her intentions -- she's out to destroy SeeD for the persecution she faced in her own time. As Squall said _"SeeDs are trained to defeat the Sorceress"_ . Most likely, both of these lines together imply that Ultimecia faced endless hardship and mental anguish growing up -- and SeeD was most likely a big part of why. That's why she hates them so much; or so it would make sense anyway. She is hellbent on killing _all_ of them -- even Squall, since he is their leader; becoming Commander of SeeD and all, it makes sense she would target him. He leads the charge in defeating her. However, that same lengthy quote is probably one of the most controversial quotes in FFVIII as well, as it neither confirms, nor denies, the theory. If only Ultimecia could exist in her world, how could she have "slaves"? But, at the same time, Squall is amongst those she is talking to...and she _still_ doesn't seem to recognize him. Yeah, they didn't explain Ultimecia's background or motives very well. But the implications are there -- and for every event in the game that _supports_ R=U...another one is thrown in that completely annihilates it. That's why I find it hard to accept as canon. And it would also suck if one of the biggest love stories in Final Fantasy ended in tragedy. It's too "Romeo & Juliet", if you ask me. And the fact that the original, Japanese translation deters from the theory a bit more.

[@oshkeet]

Ya'll gotta realize the difference between a serious allusion and a humorous reference to a fan theory. I thought it was kinda cute they put that in, nothing more. That time stop bit is pure Jojo though.

[@AntonConstanti]

"Everything is an illusion"

[@badgame589]

I like how the heroes of this story act like a brotherhood. With the largest rule being "never leave a brother behind."

[@VisiblyPinkUnicorn]

2:16 "And now the time flows again."

[@siewmj1]

so wierd hearing squall talking lol

[@hakuna_2510]

You're right ~

[@holyflame2]

Jani Not really, you'll be surprise how many teenagers have a deep and matured voice.

[@holyflame2]

ChantonsLamour But there ARE teenagers who can sounds just like him, and i don't get how he sounds gay.

[@raymundojarillo9707]

...

[@knightshade8785]

Wow Leon picked up some habits from sora

[@link01742]

1:42 ZA WARUDO

[@Takane814]

GOODBYE SQUALL

[@zackcvfair]

No fucking way xD i didn't expect jojo fans here xD

[@Takane814]

+Zack WhoAmI we are everywhere

[@zackcvfair]

Geoffery Cobb MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAAAAA

[@Takane814]

+Zack WhoAmI ORAORAORAORAORAA

[@mathewnalus7819]

at 4:28 The Guardian Force of Ultimecia - Griever GIVES US A LION ROAR!!

[@juanjohnson8137]

" shall we dance?" Rinoa is Ultimecia ( there are way to many fingers pointing to it )

[@DevilRezo]

***** She has NO way to know Rinoa said that.

[@DevilRezo]

***** So your point to say "a fictional character isnt other fictional character" is because "she is fictional".

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

matthew booth Rinoa is practically the exact opposite of Ultimecia. Even though Squall is the main character of FFVIII, Ultimecia's really more the arch nemesis to Rinoa than Squall. That said, unless there's another sorceress in Rinoa's time period we don't known about, then Ultimecia's Power would eventually have to come from Rinoa's "line".

[@Bloodmage77]

Sorakeyblademaster37 that why I think Ultimecia is Rinoa. she forgot who she was cause of the GF of squall leaving her empty and desiring for something she forgotten, and that why she wants to compress time so she can remember, when she compresses time she will relive her whole life

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

blood mage I forgot to mention in this comment that the creators eventually debunked the theory. They outright stated that Rinoa is not Ultimecia. Not only that, I'm pretty sure the game itself implies that sorceresses only have a really _bad_ kind of immortality. I think it specifically says that Adel was looking for a successor for the Sorceress Power because she was beginning to _feel her age_. It's been YEARS since I played through the story of Dissidia, but other people have said that her dialogue implies that her desire for Time Compression is something different. They say it's because she wants to return to the time of her childhood, the last time _she was happy_, possibly before she became a sorceress.

[@anomalousdelirium]

Ultimecia : You are pretty strong. How many GFs you junctioned ? Squall : Yes.

[@ZoniferConundrum]

Squall: I don't know how many breads have you eaten in your life❓

[@zephall]

Ultimecia: So you would rather die hard Me: Nice play on words

[@Netherwolf6100]

Order of Coolest Moments in Dissidia 1: Squall vs Ultimecia 2: Tidus vs Jecht 3:Cloud vs Sephiroth 4: Zidane vs Kuja 5: When Chaos kills Cosmos

[@BanditOfBandwidth]

1:49 Za Warudo! 2:11 Kurae. 2:17 Soshite toki ga ugoki desu...

[@eljugadorescaldenc4002]

In that time, I enjoyed seeing and resseing these cinematics. Normally a Japanese voice lover but in this game, the english Dub was gold. Thanks to post these videos!

[@apmanti12]

Man... Ultimicia is so beautiful... Just like Rinoa...

[@Pendrokar]

Not falling for it.

[@deathnyx]

Different boobs size. Theory debunked... ...again.

[@KinjiroTheThunder]

@@FUNBadTime This theory has been debunked a few times already

[@FUNBadTime]

@@KinjiroTheThunder Okay first sorry for previously writing such an obnoxious comment. And secondly, I dont see this theory as absolutely true, but as a perfect possible addition to the main theme of the story. For the longest time, I felt like it would fit so extremely well that it would be crazy if it was actually all just randomly and without thought, no matter what was said officialy. (This made it particularly complicated when they seemed to flirt with the idea at least once in Dissidia) It would make the story of the game a little bit deeper and complexer, while beeing perfectly in tune with the theme of forgetting and the fear of dying. In the end I would love this game nontheless, but it seems like a missed opportunity or something they changed along the way, at least to me. So this is basically my headcanon until Square decides that it actually does care about FFVIII.

[@alexsmith6914]

Yeah, she gets no love. Not a fan of the yellow eyes and being evil, but other than that... She has everyone beat!

[@Vigriff]

You know, if Ultimecia had to star in any other game I think she would be make a good Touhou character. Same with the Cloud of Darkness.

[@Bloodmage77]

Ultimecia is right about time it all an illusion, life is one big fat illusion

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

blood mage That's rather depressing, not to mention dangerous. Her belief that time is fleeting and painful is what caused her to try remake the universe so only she could exist.

[@Bloodmage77]

Sorakeyblademaster37 but it the truth everything faded your hopes, dream, life itself is an illusion to be forgotten

[@Bloodmage77]

Sorakeyblademaster37 she wanted to hold on and not fade away, it is vain hope that would never come to pass

[@Sorakeyblademaster37]

blood mage Again, that's incredibly depressing. Maybe if you have no hope for life beyond death, but even then a lot of people who don't have that hope don't trudge along through life acting like it all the time. So what if it's forgotten eventually? Is this a Greek tragedy? Happiness is possible in this life, at least if you seek at with people who genuinely care about you and you return that love and caring. No, that's not feel good bullshit; actual psychologists agree with that, which is why sociopaths, narcissists, histrionics, and the like tend to be miserable creatures.

[@Bloodmage77]

Sorakeyblademaster37 true but I can understand Ultimecia and her feeling not to fade away to hold on for something more and to not feel empty. I honestly feel sorry for her

[@eazy1437]

I would pay 200 usd for a full ff8 remake !!! Im a die hard fan of this game !

[@aquak9]

Whoa, ok idk how yall feel about R=U, imo it seems like the developers really toyed with the idea especially given Ulti’s ‘shall we dance’ quote here... But there’s something else strikingly similar to Rinoa here alongside that quote ... Rinoas trademark UP point at the moon? I didn’t notice before and it’s only for a split second, but Ulti actually points UP when she says that line !!

[@scottadams8202]

I really wish they would make this theory a reality, it's to good for it to not be.

[@NormalfellaStephen]

@@scottadams8202 well it isn’t, the director himself came out and said that theory and SID are both not true.

[@scottadams8202]

@@NormalfellaStephen I know that, I said I wish it was.

[@chrisc.7414]

I want a FF8-2 The Reign of Ultimecia. There are hints of Riona as Ultimecia. Riona- Her wings are white. Ultimecia- Her wings are black. Riona wanted Squall's ring named Griever. Ultimecia - Her GF is Griever. Using a GF makes you lose your memory.

[@chrisc.7414]

And a little side note, completely forgot. When Squall gotten hit by Edea's (Ultimecia) Ice shards during the parade, afterwards you see Edea's expression on her face that either Ultimecia had a memory of Squall dying before and heard her own scream from Riona or Edea had a little control and remember Squall as a young boy. And you see Ultimecia control Riona as herself in the possession they are connected. It somehow fit's into place a little.

[@lupina015]

As you may remember, rinoa was able to see Adel's past when she absorbed her. A sorcess has to pass on her powers to someone else before she dies. Ultimecia is the only sorcess in her time. Rinoa came from the past. So Ultimecia must also have her power and memories too. So ... yeah.

[@TheShadoKnite]

Ultimecia's GF is only Griever because of Squall. Why would Ultimecia not welcome everyone in the temporarily time kompressed world if she was truly Rinoa in the future grieving for Squall? There are similarities, but these are separate people, and Square denied the theory long ago. I think you (some of) guys just can't handle the strong female protagonist. She's gotta break sooner or later, by your logic. I think she picked up on Squall's complex perception and wisdom when she finally understood him. To fall weak to her emotions after that would be to break their connection. Just my thoughts, by all means try prove me wrong. Civil debate please.

[@chrisc.7414]

TheShadoKnite This is not a debate, it's more of opinions. Nobody is right nor wrong because there is no actual proof of any kind.

[@TheShadoKnite]

Johnny Sawblade "actual proof" there sorta is. It's like literary critiques, debates, etc, you can use textual evidence, in-game evidence in this case, and other related facts like Square denying certain things, etc.

[@The_Devil_Breaker_]

"Your ability to mess with time is coming to an end." Is still the most fire line I've ever heard

[@plainbagel9192]

Yeah of all the lines she could of said to engage someone she just had to say “ shall we dance” ...followed by the truth of time can never be reclaimed

[@chunli2]

Ultimecia is such a queen!!! 😍😍😍 Give me FFVIII REMAKE NAOO!!

[@deathnyx]

Agree. She's really gorgeous in DFFNT.

[@MatteeTheRogue]

I dunno what you guys are on about but if you're saying what I think you are then, no, the gunblade doesn't shoot bullets or blades. I read on a site somewhere that the when the trigger is pulled it sends vibrations through the blade causing more damage. That's why in the game whenever squall attacks, if you press R1 at the right time, it does extra damage.

[@MH3Raiser]

I come back here every now and again, just to remind myself of something: Squall is a loner, that simple fact never changes. He constantly isolates himself, prefers to handle things his own way. He can work well in a team, but feels confined if he can't roam somewhat freely. But, at least by this point in his timeline, he's not 'lonely'. He trusts his teammates to have his back, knows they're there fighting even if they're out of sight. He trusts others, and knows they can trust him. That trust isn't in contrast to his nature as a loner, it emboldens it. When you understand to your very core that you're not alone, that there are people worth having in your life who also want you in theirs, you don't have to see them all the time to remember it. As an introvert, this was a huge lesson for me to learn: this simple fighting game and FF8 put me on the path to really understanding it, and I'll always be grateful.

[@darlenedunlap8066]

One must one first once and awhile and second that17.5 yes indeed

[@DeanHakimia]

I was so hyped when Garland showed up in this scene the first time I played. I get to fight two enemies at once?? What a letdown when Zidane showed up :(

[@nyhtfall1969]

Not really zidane added to what Squall said about even if your apart your still fighting together

[@NinjaStreak]

1:08 Squall: “We may be apart, but we still fight together...” ........Dynamic! Garland: The hell is that noi....... Zadane:.......ENTRYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

[@atilla9770]

ZIDANE Squall's personal Deus Ex Machina

[@The_Gallowglass]

I think if you beat her as anyone but squall she tells you what she means by, "Some day, you too will know...the Truth of time that can never be reclaimed!" She wanted to compress time to go back to her childhood. Something we all lose as we get older and will never have again.

[@luisocalvanese9309]

the real lionheart is over power move

[@Bynk333]

0:46-1:10 The music in background, it reminder me something, isn't that remix from FFX-2? Or is is 14. The Salt Flats from 3 CD? Dont wory i hawe found it: 30. "The Troops' Advance" (from Dissidia Final Fantasy)

[@king09100]

When I first got to this fight I thought you could fight two people a once. That would have been awesome.

[@nathandunlap235]

Now in my future self I image I could control time stop bullects in mid air similar to this lol like neo

[@jadenaddams3674]

The funny part is that even though the "Ultimecia is Rinoa" theory has been denied by SE, the ENTIRE FANBASE says "You are full of shit, SE." There is just no denying it when you put the pieces together of how the sorceress power works and just how much Ultimecia responds when she's possessing Edea. When she spears Squall with the ice spear on the parade float, there's a close-up of Edea's face (remember, she's possessed by Ultimecia), and she looks sad. Maybe it was Edea's sadness, maybe it was Rinoa's, maybe it was BOTH. I'm ranting and I'm gonna shut up now.

[@unknowndevilmmd2023]

Jaden Addams Edea was sad because she didn't want to stab Squall, but she was under Ultimecia's control so she couldn't really stop anything she was doing. And the entire fanbase does not agree with that theory, only a random few people

[@PanteraRosa91]

Jaden Addams many people said that Square denied this theory. I really wanna know where, when, and what they exactly said, 'cause I've asked before and no one answer it to me, they only say "I've heard about It".

[@D.Middzz]

kotaku.com/is-squall-really-dead-final-fantasy-producer-addresses-1800007113 Yoshinori Kitase, one of the lead directors to FF8 has debunked it. Can we once and for all put this matter to bed? And I read somewhere that a ton of content was cut from the game so the U.S.A. basically got half of the game. It doesn't show the development of Squall and Rinoa, and how Irvine and Selphie were much bigger parts of the game.

[@chronica6457]

Except there is nothing but denying. Why would Ultimecia even try to kill Squall to begin with if Rinoa was in control of her?

[@falcon8752]

Part of me doesn't really want to trust what Square officials say. After all, they killed Enix. But on the other end I don't really support this theory either. The real problem here is that Ultimecia doesn't exist for 80% of the game, that's why the theory is convenient.

[@WolfDB]

2:49 That's the same pose Squall makes in the CGI promo pic for FF8

[@KingJaeTV]

Ultimecia is Rinoa in the future?

[@KingJaeTV]

+Jojo Van Kelly hmmm it would make sense

[@AbelNightroad26]

Muchos sospechamos eso xD

[@squallofthedai]

Nope, been confirmed by the devs.

[@Terry_L._Horton_Jr.]

I been saying this for years. I honestly think rinoa is ultimecia. This is just a theory.

[@dragonboimmdvideos]

can someone explain this theory to me pls. it sounds intriguing

[@FantasticJay3582]

I appreciate that Squalls voice actor, is the same as his VA in Kingdom Hearts 2.

[@long42950]

Ultimecia: I can freeze time Squall: I can see that

[@tnygma0717]

I miss this game, I wish they'd make it available to play on the Playstation network, and yeah I know there's NT but it's not the same, I'd love to be able to play this version again on the console

[@skeletondemon6009]

Ayo can someone give me a list of Ultimecia's abilities cuz that scene was awesome.

[@mhinteressante]

On the artworks on the game CDs they don't look short at all.

[@uricksaladbar]

dude, im not a huge fan of the FF series, so how am i suppose to know!?

[@mathewnalus7819]

RINOA IS ULTIMECIA Squall's 1st script in this video was "I only came to fullfill my promise" that is because in the original FF8 Squall made a promise that sometime in the future Squall will see Rinoa again(bythat time Rinoa was Ultimecia) The last boss(ultimecia) and her castle was in the place where Squall made that promise too see Rinoa again in the original game. *everything will make sense if you replay the game having the perspective that Rinoa is Ultimecia. And ya'all say its the best game of all!

[@Rahhelthethird]

Squall's adventures are really bizarre.

[@BombShopUniverse]

Didn't Ultamecia have an accent in the dialogue? like Russian almost

[@rwg6357]

Ulty has no accent in the Japanese, Infact the way she speaks is someone whose very affluent and dramatic. She speaks Regally you could say. However there is nothing in her speech that implies some kind of accent to her words. Basically the English team gave her a thick Odine like accent at the end cause they could. Which of course doesn't makes sense cause Rinoa and Edea didn't speak with an accent when possessed , Showing someone doesn't understand what an accent is... since if its a physical restriction its a speech impediment. Hell She loses the Accent half way through the final fight!! TLDR version, Ulty never had an accent to begin with, The US team was just high off their asses when they added it in. Though someone had a sense of humor since Its 'Sniper Wolf' doing her English voice her and made us all think she'd have the accent back.

[@amanie99]

Cloud, Squall, Tidus... These are so badass FF protagonists :) I love them.. They should have make Tidus big in Kingdom Hearts, then he could join the FF Chars in the Arena of Olymp :P Cloud and Leon is alrdy a dreamteam but with Tidus it would be pure epicness.

[@uricksaladbar]

why does squall look like leon!?

[@alianajacobs5703]

Damny why does the villain always need to look that sexy. Damn you Ultimecia!

[@Xippoc]

No, if you look at the artwork they're still short. Kuja was even called "tall man" in the original game.

[@TheAnimeMegaFreak]

Sephiroth is like the only main Final Fantasy villain to appear in Kingdom Hearts games as a superboss, at least let other Final Fantasy Villains make a appearance with their own theme song being played

[@Heart0faLion0]

LOL!!!!!!! at 2:28 you can see Squall holding the Lionheart!!! Squall Haxxxxx you have to pause just as the attacks zoom past him but it's in 2:28

[@bananatiergod]

1:05 He's SOOO talking about Rinoa... Period.

[@MarxForever]

1:14 Who the fuck is "Zid-dawn"?

[@sofaris576]

+MarxForever You probaly now it alrady but Zidanne is the Main Character from Final Fantasy 9.

[@MarxForever]

Sofaris Oh I know who Zidane is. I love FFIX. I just don't know who this "Zid-dawn" is. :D

[@felipe-pb2em]

i can... talk like...that...too

[@kaphel]

felipe lol i aggre xD

[@felipe-pb2em]

Ultima 13

[@vega2300]

Hmph... I see... Well then... Shall we dance?

[@arianna_ca]

"And because he's my friend." Aww, love the way he said that! :)

[@sky_classic]

I just love the way they take out there weapons

[@artan6966]

@swordmasterjoshua Actually that did make sense in the fact that she was no enemy of his anymore

[@meoth]

Ultimecia is the best main villain of all FFs games! I love her!!

[@Anniebobanny]

One of her attacks should have been Ice Strike just to troll Squall. "Hey, remember when I possessed the body of your mother figure and made her impale you in the shoulder with a blade of ice? Me too."

[@saikotick]

Can someone tell me what are the symbols that appear on the wheels of the "chess board". Where are they from? What are they? Pic links are appreciated. :) Thank you!

[@SuperShesh2]

im so used to seeing the 012 version

[@koreanbronze6348]

+SuperShesh2 yep. when you look carefully. Dissidia 2008 sucks lol

[@KaiserDrake]

@swordmasterjoshua The phrase actually does make sense. Squall says it after beating someone because he views their performance to be lackluster--not fitting at all of someone who is supposed to be his enemy. So, to reiterate, his enemies are supposed to be stronger than that, and by not meeting his expectations he ends up not even seeing the opponent as a true enemy of his... =/

[@eldest2025]

@EroticBulbasaur I think he has had a voice since kingdom hearts 1

[@kei_nishimaru]

But little did they all know that all final fantasy characters will team up once more years later.

[@BulletBillSoilder]

Mygingerguy plus sora

[@kirasaji]

Stop at 2:49. It’s the cover art for FF8.

[@RenEizen]

@369destroyer its not really a mullet, it's just long hair

[@SayianZZ]

@dlwitness really? well that makes sense. Was this weakness in original FF8?

[@Absoluteamber33]

@KisiroKitsune Ohhh gotcha. Stll! lol. I just imagined it soo different.

[@CrazyFriendlyGamerAlex]

4:08 That was epic kill!