Squawks and Chat Watch Game Theory's timeline part 2 [Stream Highlight]

[@kerm7657]

Thumbnail definitely should have been Matpat with laser eyes obliterating every other theory at once

[@Boiled_Pizza]

3d low poly t-posing matpat with laser eyes and a caption saying "you're breaking my heart theorist"

[@CreamCakes420]

@@Boiled_Pizza yes yes good

[@Lissy_YT481]

​@@Boiled_Pizza yeah, that would be kind of... ironic...

[@laraschroeder5195]

I appreciated the Elizabeth explanation. Saying it was unnecessary and a waste of time was a bit harsh, dude. There are a lot of options and the time of when Sister Location took place is highly debated, so Mat explaining why he chose what he did makes sense. Not everyone thinks that Sister location took place after the CC. Heck, I was still confused as to when it was, because in my mind there was equal clues to both. I *needed* that explanation. Sorry, but you saying it was so unnecessary and a waste of time made me feel stupid for needing it. I understand that you’re a harsh critic, it’s kind of a common thing in your videos, but sometimes you come across as closed minded and sometimes flat out rude. Like when your video commenting on FuhNaffs theory was originally titled something like “This is the STUPIDEST FNAF theory” to “Fuhnaffs new video confused me…”. I really like your channel, dude. I think your hilarious and you helped me form my own opinions on the games lore, but I gotta give critic where it’s due. Sometimes your opinions come across as so degrading and hateful that it’s not very fun to watch. I just hope it’s something you can keep in mind for future videos to make it a more enjoyable experience.

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

Yeah I can't help but agree with this

[@oniwolf018]

Yeah this is my first time watching bro and that kinda made me lose interest I've seen people come at matpat's theories and ideas but not with this much disdain hopefully thats something they can work on as an internet personality but I wont be sticking around to find out personally

[@LOADINGSPECS]

Yeah I also agree.

[@SadWestbrook]

He did it because he believes he is right and that any other mention of a theory is wrong

[@fossfox]

I also appreciated the explanation, he was pointing out that there was contradicting information instead of just sweeping it under the rug

[@Dav458]

I like the idea of William springlocking Cassidy more,it would explain why she's so vengeful and why she wants William to suffer instead of letting him die,as we all know,springlock suits are the worst ways to die,and William,the sadistic man he is,puts her inside the suit and activated it with water or something

[@siresquawks]

It could work either way. Honestly between dying at all, and being stuck in the only seemingly completely immobile suit, I’d be shocked if they weren’t pissed as hell, especially since their killer only becomes a worse person from there.

[@Dav458]

@@siresquawksalso thanks for the Matpat jumpscare lol,really needed that lol

[@ZirconiaGacha]

I like the idea of Cassidy having the most brutal death out of any of his murders. But I never thought of them being springlocked! (Using they/them because ever since I found out Cassidy is a gender-neutral name my brain can't decide)

[@kingofflames738]

@@ZirconiaGacha the vengeful spirit appears to be a boy, so Cassidy is most likely a boy.

[@ZirconiaGacha]

@@kingofflames738 I immediately thought of a boy with long hair as a compromise. My dad said he used to have long hair, and I've seen boys with longer hair at school, so why can't Cassidy just look sort-of inbetween?

[@PsychicBeetle]

I feel he did need that last bit. Otherwise people would just bitch at him about “all this evidence” he missed/ignored. Anytime he says anything there are 5-10 channels that immediately make vids calling him out. I don’t always agree with his theories and this one could be completely wrong but, I am enjoying the “story” he has presented and it feels sort of satisfying like a decent short story.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah, but (Even though I agree with most of the video) it feels like other things needed explanations. Mike being the kid running away is only recently becoming more common for a theory, and thus explaining it I feel is more important than something that's been discussed a LOT in the fandom since SL came out. It's less that it was talked about and more that there are things that weren't.

[@PsychicBeetle]

@@siresquawks ah gotcha. Makes sense.

[@oscar1012]

@@siresquawks I don't think that's true, Mike being the kid who ran away has been a theory ever since the security log book, and the placement of Elizabeth death in the timeline has been debated since the release of SL. There's no wya to be sure but I'd say most are more accepting to the runaway Mike Theory then they are to Elizabeth dying post-Fnaf 4. So i personally think u were definitely a bit overly harsh on your criticisms about the explanation. Just cuz you feel already well-acquainted with said info, doesn't mean everyone is.

[@leandromolina347]

I literally started cheering when Matpat followed that order of killings ngl

[@diamondplums503]

"Please, please Matthew Patthew" "WAIT, ARE WE GETTING MICHAEL MOTORIST?" I just love how passionate you are when you are right

[@akinschalkwyk8998]

I don't think the Funtimes having child murder devices necessarily meant that they had to have been possessed by children they killed themselves. CBPW was open for only one day after all, so all the animatronics besides Baby of course presumably wouldn't have gotten the opportunity to kill any children. They were instead locked away in the rental service and experimented on with remnant. The blueprints were most likely meant to show us what these robots were *initially* designed to do.

[@siresquawks]

I mean maybe, but It's not like this franchise hasn't had many kids die on the same day before, and this requires the blueprints to be basically a theorizing red herring, which feels really weird.

[@sleepylmguy9968]

But SL also told us the Funtimes clearly been have been rented to parties before. Heck that actually our job there we’re supposed to get these thing ready after they been out for the day.

[@akinschalkwyk8998]

@@siresquawks If there were other kids also killed on that same day, I'm pretty sure Elizabeth's death wouldn't have been the only one with attention drawn towards it and that there would've been more in the game to imply the disappearance of other children besides her. This also wouldn't really be the first time we've had a "red herring" in this franchise. There's been a fair amount of them throughout the years. '87 vs '83 and FNaF 4's protagonist are a couple that first come to mind.

[@akinschalkwyk8998]

@@sleepylmguy9968 It's never implied whether any children are murdered at these parties either. We don't really see the robots come back with anything like corpses in their cavities or get hints through any kind of dialogue. On the other hand, there just happens to be a lot in FFPS that heavily implies MoltenMCI; from Candy Cadet's stories to Molten Freddy's blueprints to Henry's insanity ending monologue.

[@verminscum]

It was only open one day, but they were rentals for parties after that. They had plenty of access to kids.

[@gedar205]

The thing with the Funtimes is that they were all designed to kill but they didn't have time to do so because the restaurant was closed the first day from Elizabeth's death. You could argue that they killed kids in the rental service, but if you deny molten MCI then what is your interpretation of Candy Cadette?

[@skep2923]

Hey quick question, what does MCI mean again?

[@zell8873]

well Molten DCI (the second set of killings in FNAF 2) is possible although this requires the argument that the toy's are possessed. the toy's however could still work given they had parts from the originals and therefore some remnant. this would better explain why William dies at the end of the FNAF 3 cut-scenes and the fun times still exist because they were made from the Toy's remnant. William went to FNAF 1 to get more and died before he could do so.

[@gedar205]

@@skep2923 Missing Children Incident

[@gedar205]

@@zell8873 hmm I guess. It's a bit confusing the fact that the remnant is in the Funtimes but at the same time the souls are back there. I'm not sure if that would be possible, I think it is, but I see why it isn't 100% satisfying. But the toys were scrapped right after the bite of 87, so it would be hard for William to take the remnant from them so I'm going with Matt's theory. I also think it would make more sense having the 5 original kids be the ones who burn in FNAF 6 (Molten Freddy), specially if you consider the gravestone ending.

[@zell8873]

@@gedar205 that's why molten DCI doesn't fit narratively (although i think it would have been a better choice). hence my proposal of the parts from the toy's being used as even if destroyed the toy's remnant would likely remain in tact (as far as i am aware regular destruction procedures for robots don't include incineration) and if they were in some scrapyard somewhere it would be much easier for William to access. as for split souls the books showed this exact thing in relation to the fun times souls can still do things as peaces although again i agree narratively its confusing (hence why i think molten DCI would have been a better narrative decision also because in a series about dead kids possessing robots having 5 that just don't feels weird)

[@sardonyxhalloween1987]

33:28 I feel like they were just designed with these capabilities, but they weren't used because Elizabeth's death caused Afton to put the experiment to a close.

[@siresquawks]

Maybe, but that doesn't feel that strongly implied.

[@Gaystradamus]

Maybe, but we have no idea what any of the funtimes were up to during the rental service phase. That one book story seems to imply that at least Funtime Freddy is capable of capturing and killing kids or even (angsty) teenagers completely autonomously. Maybe even in a way specifically designed to not "infect" his body, such as quickly disposing of the bodies in the bunker furnace, which is implied to exist by help wanted. In my mind, that would also explain the Blob, just Scrap Baby's Funtime endoskeleton isn't enough to account for his massive size, all of Ennard fit inside of Michael after all. Molten Freddy escaped what has all but now been confirmed to be a failed burning attempt and went back to the bunker to raid the furnace full of forgotten souls trapped in melted/scrapped endos, including the hollow Fnaf 1 and SL suits.

[@grimace9670]

If William stole the endo skeletons it could explain y fazbear frights had so much trouble finding an animatronic but not heads and stuff, but I guess it’s not the only explanation

[@sprungle]

Proud of MatPat for his order of events

[@PikachuGamerSMT]

I hate how Matthew Patrick believes that the Crying Child “saw” Elizabeth die when Bany tells us in SL that she was counting the last number was one then none (cuz she absorbed Elizabeth)

[@kirbsmeister608]

I have a potential answer to the idea of the metal being melted down and therefore being unable to show up as ghosts. Remnant is weird and practically does what it wants, but the answer is simple to me. Afton simply didnt get all of it. They’re shells are left on the ground, and as shown in the bad ending of Fnaf3 they’re souls are in the Masks. That even ties to the Happiest Day mini game where when they are released and mask drop to the ground. The remnant is split, with the costumes, the metal, maybe even the building itself. Glitch Trap is proof of this splitting, the ghost in the code and the spirit in the BurnTrap body. Remnant can be combined, suits can be shared, Andrew from the books grafts himself on Afton, so remnant does have the possiblilty to split. And even then, im a bit hazy on the books so i don’t remember how the spirts in the fun times act, but Afton could have taken they’re Agony instead, which is why the fun times were aggressive, yada yada. Also Mats had most of these theories talked about in the past, but his side of the fnaf community didnt like them, which is why his explanations seem redundant. I wouldn’t be surprised if a bit or two is inspired by your groups work, considering Mat has been looking at other peoples theories since Funaff made his big theories. Your side is very different. Which is why i like these theories, its bridging the community and is all around fun in its narrative style rather than pure statements.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah, my only issue is the lack of a standout moment or scene that implies something. Scenes like Mike's monologues, Henry's two monologues, the secret room, and the UCN voice lines all give very strong impressions about certain concepts, post fnaf world fnaf rarely gives information this subtle and off screen. Even the source code chats are pretty upfront. The Blue prints about remnant being destroyed with heat, the lefte schematics and alley scene, It just feels if this is the intent there's a missing scene for this theory.

[@TrickyTurtle123]

@@siresquawks Henry Speach seems to heavily Talk about FollowMe. And with the 5 melted down to one. But I don’t dislike one if they don’t see its point.

[@ShryStar]

You know, one of the things I see most people look over when it comes to the placement of Sister Location is Micheal. If we're working under the assumption that he was gutted before his role in fnaf1, then Sister Location/Circus Baby's would have to be before the opening of the fnaf2 location. Why? Because Micheal was in fnaf2! After finishing the custom night, it's revealed that the night guard of the custom night isn't Jeremy Fitzgerald (probably because he's gets a chunk of his head bitten off at the end of the week), it's actually a completely different night gaurd "Fritz Smith" who gets fired on his first day. Why? For the exact same reasons, "Mike Schmidt" is fired in the first game. This means that these are both definitely pseudonyms of Micheal Afton, who presumably started chasing after his dad when he caught wind of the second MCI.

[@yosh3301]

Yeah thats a big assumption, the only evidence is the ‘odor’ line on a firing slip made before Scott Cawthon even thought of Michael as a character. Putting sister location that early force you to answer the question: if Willy A has these robots built specifically to capture kids, why doesnt he use them to kill all those kids that he kills?

[@ShryStar]

@Yosh That AND tampering with the animatronics, it's a little too specific to not be the same guy. As for fnaf 2, he didn't need them. He could've gone other places, but he chose to purposefully return to Freddy's, likely for personal reasons. Why get machines to do it for him when he could kill by his own hands? He's a murderer first, mad scientist second I say. That and if my theory of events is true, the fun times would be gone by then. So he'd actually have to do it himself.

[@yosh3301]

@@ShryStar im not saying he’s not the same guy, don’t get me wrong, I absolutely think Michael was the fnaf 1 protag and Fritz Smith from fnaf 2, i’m saying he gets gutted AFTER fnaf 1 and not before. That would put sister location between fnaf 1 and fnaf 3, and i don't just think that because putting the funtimes creation before fnaf 2 creates a narratively unsatisfying story, Michael’s speech at the end of Sister Location strongly suggests that the very next thing he does after sister location is go to Fazbear Frights. ‘Theres only one thing left for me to do now, im going to come find you.’ In fnaf 1 and fnaf 2 he isnt just out to kill his dad, hes out to save the victims of his father, thats why he gets fired for tampering with the animatronics. This line in sister location would suggest hes already done that, hes not going ‘im gonna save those kids souls then im gonna find you’ that seems to have already happened. The explanation still doesnt make sense, if hes a passionate murderer who likes to get his hands dirty, why does he build robots specifically designed to do the dirty work for him? Also, he may have shut the place down, but the animatronics are still fully operational and he knows they are. If he wants to bring them back to do his dirty work he can, he owns the building. Its not like henry can do anything to stop him cause its his own separate company.

[@seannolan9857]

​@@yosh3301 Problem with that is his odor, which makes sense if he's already a rotting corpse, and not so much if he's a relatively normal human.

[@yosh3301]

@@seannolan9857 I acknowledged that in my first comment, its not entirely unexplainable. Heck the original explanation was that Fazbear makes up fake reasons for firing people until the entire story got reconned in fnaf 4. You can use that explanation, it is a bit dicey I still roll with it though, cause the narrative created by the other version of the timeline just sucks.

[@Cian-A-Jones]

I just had an idea of how the safe room could be locked after William gets springlocked without Henry leaving him there. So William goes to retrieve the endo's but encounters the spirits, not thinking clearly he locks HIMSELF inside in a vain hope to keep em out. Being ghosts they obviously go through the wall, he hides in the suit, and is unable to get himself out due to the big clunky animatronic hands. If anyone else already wrote this sort of idea first, then I apologize.

[@Mr.scooter-le8yo]

You know what I really didn't think about that and I didn't hear anyone else say that either. Good theory

[@Cian-A-Jones]

@@Mr.scooter-le8yo thank you!

[@Cian-A-Jones]

Another idea that I think I saw somewhere else, although I can't remember is that its Cassidy did some ghost shenanigans to lock William inside

[@thekeeper1287]

The sister location part is basically what Shycrow says in his video. That the minigames in fnaf 3 were afton breaks the suits is after freddys 1 closes and it spans 5-6 nights. Him taking the animatronic peices to the bunker to inject them into the funtimes. And when he comes back the final night. The ghosts trap him. This timeline also confirms that Michael wasn't the security guard in fnaf 1 OR 2 and that actually makes me happy cause sister location being at the beginning of the timeline just ehhhhh doesn't fit right.

[@smt64productions40]

So how you feeling with Part 3?

[@DARESTDEVIL]

I'm gonna be dreading part 3. I don't think matpat is gonna come out with any nonsense, though with part 3, as part 2 was fairly good, but as you know, I brought a pitchfork that stream, lol. The reason I dread it is if vanessa gets tied to Elizabeth again. Here's the thing, the quote from the encyclopedia "spoilt child" describing Elizabeth. I just don't want that to be true because it absolutely ruins what made baby a good character in the first place. Having Elizabeth as this innocent and caring girl like Charlie, but baby being a manipulative piece of shit like William. Kinda like two face, and Henry even suggested that in the FNAF 6 speech, too. But if that statement is true, I'm out, baby is my favourite character in this franchise, and if that's true, I'm just straight up leaving the community lol

[@soul6733]

You know, Elizabeth may just not be a saint kid. Sure, she could be relatively good but that doesn't mean she can't be just a bit spoiled, which is something normal for kids.

[@DARESTDEVIL]

@Soul6 Yeah but like why add that fucking detail to make us hate the character. Think of how could it would be if Elizabeth was the one consoling the crying child near the end in that different shade of yellow and she was the one in the opening of fnaf world too, because Elizabeth says in ennard night "everything is OK, I'M STILL HERE" that would make her such a compelling character. But to make her as much of a dick as baby? No... that's bad writing

[@sprungle]

1. We don't know what Elizabeth nor Charlie were like when they were alive 2. The "spoiled child" line is a joke about her being dead, "spoiled" as in decayed, which is why it's worded as "a new meaning to the phrase".

[@DARESTDEVIL]

@@sprungle bro I fucking hope to god your right

[@The_Dumb_1_]

Bet?

[@MinMin4theWinWin]

You need to react to a fnaf theory tuber called impulse_evan37. Especially him reacting to this theory. He's...messing up people saying Elisabeth was first, baby was made to apparently kill Elisabeth, and Charlie is somehow the fredbear plush!? He says in the video that it's common knowledge but I've never heard anyone say that! He also thinks that shadow freddy brought the crying child to the pizzeria from the midnight motorist minigame The guy is just wrong xD

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

Honestly it came out way better than I expected, originally expecting the worst from Mat's theories lately. So far one of the best fnaf timelines at the moment

[@SadWestbrook]

Love how because it agrees to your points it’s automatically right and automatically the best theory😂 I do also agree with it for the most part

[@wompwompcryabttit]

That’s how these weirdos be 😂 “everything is wrong because I said so even if what I say has many potholes”

[@tygiajames6888]

The part that gets me is that he assumed that he watched someone else(toast) video to then create this video "beat to beat," and then it automatically makes it his theory. Like if the facts are there, nothing can be claimed.

[@TrickyTurtle123]

I actually found out what the couch person in mm was named It was named Backdrop 26. So I guess Couch Person is part of the background.

[@maskofthedragon]

TL:DR The Man Behind the Slaughter did some slaughtering

[@joshuavis2736]

By the ultimate guide it seems like happiest day does occur after fnaf 3 but before fnaf 6, so the core 4 are set free but they wouldn’t be free if they were in molten Freddy/funtimes. Idk how to feel about molten mci, I can see why it would be a thing but I personally hope it doesn’t

[@siresquawks]

it's hard to say. I don't like it but I acknowledge it's evidence, as well as it's flaws.

[@Rais-Codex]

Huh, it's almost as if the community is reaching a consensus on the time-line.

[@JoMaTo1]

The animatronic pieces still having remnant thus letting the ghosts manifest in the Freddy's location wouldn't be possible by GT's theory as he stated that Afton took the animatronics back to his bunker. Which is unlogical as we can see the pieces on the floor in the minigame but whatever.

[@JoMaTo1]

Another inconsistency is that the Phone Guy talking about the closing of safe rooms must have happened before the animatronics were dismantled, as he dies by their hands and FNaF1, a game where the originals are still not broken, takes place after his death. So the evidence that GT used isn't applicable.

[@Hunter_Goldenwolf]

I mean things can be reopened, Fazbear entertainment didn't just send that room to the void also isn't it the endoskeletons not the actually suits?

[@JoMaTo1]

​@@Hunter_Goldenwolf The way that GT words it makes it sound like Afton took the whole animatronics with him

[@stiw91]

@@JoMaTo1 He says Afton just took the endoskeleton but the video shows him taking to whole thing. The inconsistency can be explained by just saying he took the parts that he thought he would need and left the rest, then later came to collect the rest of it on the night he dies.

[@JoMaTo1]

​@@stiw91 Huh... I guess I misheard. Thanks for pointing out

[@maddiek1314]

I like the molten mci theory since it explains why the animatronics were to eager to merge together and why baby was seen as different. Merging made their souls whole (or at least more so than before) again, and so of course they’d want to stay together and kick baby out Also I think they had the storage capability so that Afton could collect more victims to turn into more remnant for use in other projects, like the minireenas, bidybabs, and the masks. And maybe some of that remnant was added into the runtimes as well

[@syweb2]

Also, they were originally made for a restaurant, but it was quickly shut down, so they'd been around for a while by that point. They weren't originally made for the bunker.

[@mister_r447]

Cassidy has to be in molten freddy because of how in custom night They say through Orville that they will keep Afton no matter how many times they are burned (refering to both themselves and afton) which says that they were in pizzaria simulator.

[@seannolan9857]

My biggest issue with this timeline is saying that Henry was the one who reopened the FNaF 1 location. From what we've seen of Henry's character in Pizzarria Simulator, he doesn't strike me as the type of person who would be totally okay with periodic employee deaths at the hands of his animatronics, and even have an official policy for disposing of bodies and reporting them as missing months later. Whoever Phone Guy's 'upper management' is, it's clearly someone with no moral compass beyond "make a quick buck by any means necessary". I could buy Henry still being in charge in '87, as the facial recognition thing sounds like a genuine attempt to prevent another tragedy, rather than sweeping stuff under the rug as Fazbear would later become infamous for. But I think he probably had to sell what was left of the company after the second MCI, bite and subsequent closure. This also would mean that someone other than Henry would have boarded up Springtrap, as whoever did that seemed more concerned about potential lawsuits than keeping anyone safe.

[@cephlo4933]

For me the biggest issue is where fnaf 4 is placed in the timeline and the nightmare animatronics apparently being illusions

[@justice8718]

"From what we've seen of Henry's character in Pizzarria Simulator, he doesn't strike me as the type of person who would be totally okay with periodic employee deaths at the hands of his animatronics, and even have an official policy for disposing of bodies and reporting them as missing months later." Game Henry is an asshole and William Afton has used his Mike alias in fnaf1, making him of the potential dudes that gets fucked by Henry's policies.

[@ciboria1]

(Please correct me if I am wrong here) But why couldn't it be Charlie who was the trigger for Evan to be scared of that place? Instead of his sister, since that is what created the "Who died first?" Issue in the first place? If Evan saw someone getting killed right by Freddies, and/or the Puppet "consuming" them, that would easily make him terrified of it. And also the point of the puppet giving the others life, makes a lot more sense if she died before him. Chica could still be the first one, or rather, the first of the Fnaf 1 gang to go. Her being the first in the missing children incident suddenly makes sense, despite others dying before her. (This is the first hypothesis/theory I've written, and it was honestly just because of an idea I had. I do apologise if this has been talked about previously, and I just missed it completely.)

[@albumkosong]

If the one that talk in fredbear plushy is William why he remind his child so much about him killing Charlie? Elizabeth make sense because it's an accident that William doesn't want to happen his other child

[@justice8718]

​@@albumkosong This entire situation and the fact that employees don't watch over William's kids makes me doubt that William Afton is actually in control of things. He acts a lot like a better Book Henry with how protective and considerate he is about his children. William acts almost as paranoid of the animatronics as his son does. He doesn't trust Henry's company.

[@Sleepy-Pile-of-Ashe]

Ah yes Kid gets killed Squawk: "YES"

[@hioman]

28:41 well, you are working with the same material, so it only makes sence that, if MatPat decided to look at the series as though he hadn't made any theories on it, then he'd come to the conclusion as someone who did the same thing at the same time

[@asriel3564]

Exactly

[@ChimeratAlpha]

I am surprised the shill for "Style Theory" made it into your highlight cut of the stream.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah, i mainly did it because I called style theory and wanted that in it.

[@tamaskarsai2072]

I remember commenting years ago when fnaf 4 come around, while watching 1 of mat pat's theories, that this story is maybe about "purple guy" which we now know as afton, doing the murders for revenge, because his kid got killed. I just don't remember what I exactly typed and where.

[@masonhall2297]

The concept of remnant and agony is confusing. But to what I understand it isnt that the soul was placed inside the fun time animatronics bit rather were brought to life with the energy that was left behind from the spirits that possessed that metal. It's still confusing

[@jac0736]

I’m on board with most funtimes not having victims, but I think Funtime Freddy does, reason being because Molten Freddy is a thing. If it was just the programming wouldn’t it have died at the birth of Ennard? There’d be no reason for the separation to Scrap Baby if it was theoretically the same programming to capture kids.

[@albumkosong]

The reason (in matpat theory) is molten mci.. The fun time have a bit from other child while Elizabeth is not included

[@rikuaotsuki6353]

I REALLY wish MatPat would stop referring to the Bite of 83 as a springlock failure. So much of the community takes everything Matpat says as gospel, so when he repeatedly states something outright wrong like that, it confuses discussion, especially since a lot of those people tend to, uh, resist correction. Fredbear was in animatronic mode. No springlocks were engaged, so they couldn't fail. Fredbear's jaw was just designed to be far too powerful.

[@TheSoulCalledZuzia]

I think he meant it as a thought shortcut. And it's the community's fault for taking everything they hear from MatPat as granted

[@Wowzers111]

The first time I watched mats video I accidentally skipped the new channel announcement because I thought it was an ad lmao

[@stagetheory]

Literally me and my friends talking AS SOON as someone presses play 😂

[@Celtic1020]

I wouldn't have thought it was a good idea, but matpat can make it work.

[@TactlessC]

I think, because he only mentioned injecting it into Funtime Freddy, because he's sorta the defacto leader of the Funtimes after ejecting Baby, that only he got injected with the molten energy...and because of the stupid shit that's been invented to explain why FNAF 6 didn't just end everyone, I think the implication that MatPat is using isn't that Funtime Freddy is powered by Remnant but is instead powered by...what the fuck is that other thing called? That represents the lingering anger and fear and not the actual souls? I think it's that. Also Toy MCI only really makes sense as a concept if you pretend William wasn't tampering with the toys as well and even then the only proper clue to it is Night 6.

[@TactlessC]

Also between only one nightmare having a stomach mouth and the "Funtime Foxy becomes Mangle" I feel like he pays more attention to his scripts than he does the actual visuals in both the games and his editor's animations.

[@Rukusoru]

this is a very small part of mat's theory but didnt the toy animatronics having facial recognition come from one of the fnaf based args?

[@siresquawks]

No? That’s from the original Fnaf 2 phone calls.

[@Rukusoru]

@@siresquawks ah ok, its been a very long time since ive heard those so i forgot

[@ethanchaotic]

what is your opinion on the wendigoon timeline because that in my mind is the definitive and best one

[@siresquawks]

Haven’t watched it

[@ethanchaotic]

@@siresquawks please do!! Easily the best timeline, i highly recommend it

[@1987nightrap]

Ill be honest your literily the only fnaf theorist i agree with at the time being

[@Harlez]

Why could the MCI ghosts not exist elsewhere separately from their Remnant? Are they for sure inextricably tied?

[@siresquawks]

It's more that it's an unexplained concept. It's not intuitive to think that you can take all/most of their metal parts, melt it down and inject it into other animatronics and then go back to find the ghosts fully there and cornering you.

[@Harlez]

I see it sort of as the remnant containing the lifeforce, the pain of the murders themselves, and that part giving the animatronics energy, whereas the spirits gave them direction and intention, later taking ghostly form because the animatronics were no longer sufficiently whole and therefore unable to contain them or be their form.

[@raider2299]

MatPat missed that someone was convicted

[@WWTWW]

If I remember correctly, it just said that "a suspect" was convicted, so it doesn't necessarily have to be William who was the one to get convicted. Also, one of the Fazbear Frights stories implies that someone got wrongfully convicted for someone else's crimes, so that might be what happened in this scenario. (But, yeah, maybe he skipped it, since it doesn't flow well with the narrative part of the video.)

[@raider2299]

@@WWTWW it didn’t necessarily have to be William, but it is definitely a detail that should’ve been at least glanced at

[@andresalbornoz2375]

He really needs to see brussel's timeline

[@siresquawks]

Who’s Brussels?

[@andresalbornoz2375]

​@@siresquawks kzbin.info/www/bejne/rKqxg6RoaLWWaNE Its this one, real good an coherent

[@andresalbornoz2375]

​@@siresquawks and the guy knows his stuff

[@moonknightanimations1251]

24:02 Honestly yeah, the main reason to me for why people except molten mci theory is just because we need a reason for William to comeback to Freddy's and destroy them.

[@creeps351]

My ears!

[@siresquawks]

Sorry.

[@Italian_Isaac_Clarke]

There's to consider that the hard cuts between "endings" demands the imagination of the "theorist" to splice together what's not meant to be. The big splices are between FNaF Worlds and Sister Location and between Ultimate Custom Night and Security breach. Other smaller splices are between FNaF 1 and 2, FNaF 3 and 3 _and_ FNaF SL and FNaF Pizzeria Simulation (for the reasons that we all already know. Scott came up with the story as he was going onwards). To keep it short, the best Theory is the one with less assumptions, Occam's Razor, thus even if fiction it doesn't matter if someone wants to make it "cool and iron man" or whatever the kids say, it will feel satisfying just and only if the least amount of assumptions is made.

[@aresrivera9744]

Hey I got a question. Do you think Elizabeth dying first and then the crying child could actually work? Like The murder weapon is the biggest debunk but maybe it wasn’t a murder weapon at first? Maybe it was just for storing objects automatically like similar to Freddy stomach hatch . Maybe it generally malfunctioned and killed Elizabeth but was later re-purposed as a killing Devices after MCI or something which is where the blueprints come from .

[@siresquawks]

No. Matpat sorta downplayed the MANY things that imply she's way later other than just the weapon. In the canceled due to leaks teaser, there's sort of news commentary on Baby's pizza world closing, and one specifies that you should look out for Baby at your local birthday, implying the rental service was born right after Pizza world closes. That's important because at the start of SL hand unit says it was formed to fill in the space left by Freddy's pizza, meaning that the Circus Baby brand was made after 1985 when the first freddy's closes. Bite victim dies in 1983. The Funtimes feature design details only seen in the Toy Animatronics and animatronics after them (like the rockstars), implying they're slightly later on. Baby says she was always counting the number of kids in the room, and something changed when there was only one (Elizabeth). This would not be a malfunction, this implies it was outright intentional. This is backed up by William telling Elizabeth to not go near baby, which even if she was still being tested wouldn't make much sense if he thought there wasn't anything dangerous about her. He deliberately let other kids play with Baby, but not his own daughter. All of the evidence implies she wasn't first, other than the one room in fnaf 4, which is in the game with countless oddities and is considered the most subject to retcons.

[@syweb2]

The problem is that Baby was counting children until one was alone, and only then got grabby. This was deliberate.

[@LordOverTheLightOfRa]

I wish this was a actual video because the quality seems all over the place and it's sad because this was a good idea.

[@siresquawks]

These were just the stream highlights, I may make a full sort of review of the timeline once part 3 (or 4 if it goes longer like he said it might), since I wasn't satisfied with the part 1/part 2 prediction video.

[@LordOverTheLightOfRa]

@Sire Squawks Ah understandable. Sorry about my comment, I meant no harm. Good time as well, since MatPats video maybe you can find something in his video too. Cheers.

[@Emiturbina]

I don't get how CC can be the first death, especially since it was just confirmed how what he saw inside of Fredbear was hair

[@siresquawks]

It wasn't?

[@real_needynerd]

It could just be wires, no one knows if it is hair

[@Emiturbina]

​@@siresquawks Didn't the enciclopedia just said that it was tho? Maybe I'm confusing it with something else, it was late when I read it

[@Celtic1020]

42:17 because that is the second most popular interpretation of the timeline.

[@IllegalCheeseCake.]

So I may be wrong on this because I don't remember what happened in fnaf too well, but I'm pretty sure there was a dead child stuffed in a springlock suit while CC was trapped in there in the Fredbear's family diner storage room. Since William (through the Fredbear plush) says that CC saw something he wasn't meant to see, I think William murdered a child before the death of CC. This however doesn't fit well with William's motive for killing children, as he doesn't have a good reason to, so maybe Elizabeth's death did somehow come first or maybe William just got too drunk, got kicked out of JR's, and killed a minor.

[@siresquawks]

The whole dead kid thing isn't really confirmed. It could just be wires.

[@TeamTheme]

So glad MatPat put Elizabeth’s death after Crying Child’s

[@mysterybroz4810]

Something I personally don’t really like about the matpat theories is just trying to make William start out as a good person. I’ve also just liked the idea that he’s just evil and insane, and similarly to like Palpatine the fun is seeing how evil he is.

[@siresquawks]

Yeah but sometimes the purest evil can be born from a person being corrupted. Jason from Friday the 13th was killed and bullied and became a evil monster seeking revenge, even if he wasn’t to begin with.

[@DAM1EN_]

I think it's more important to have Afton as a complex character, rather than straight evil, because if he was evil, why would Henry partner with him. They started as parallels of each other, the only thing coming to separate them being Afton's need for revenge after his child's death.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

I mean, it doesn't say that hè is saint, Hè is an easily offended guy and also a kinda neglectfull father

[@albumkosong]

He is not really a good person, he has very big ego even from the start. In matpat theory Henry help him a lot but he still kinda hate the guy because his own twisted vision

[@justice8718]

Honestly, I find more evidence on William Afton being framed for the MCI murders and Henry being the real piece of shit of fnaf. Midnight Motorist outright shows us how abusive the MCI killer is to his children while SB has two huge pieces of evidence against him being William. Glamrock Freddy is William Afton after contacting with the Burntrap Suit and he repeats a lot of the same habits William uses to protect the Crying Child. None of the therapist for Vanny and Gregory have ever considered William Afton as an abusive parent. The possessed Gregory (Patient 46) is unable to refute this. "But Michael is Glamrock Freddy". No. William is the kind of guy that says lines such as "you're broken" to a seemingly human kid in fnaf4. Michael doesn't do this and it feels completely alien for him to talk about people in very mechanical terms or set up an entire spy network to protect a child.

[@iamthemouse4483]

This video was an early Christmas present to you specifically.

[@kinglod2312]

I was hoping Matt Pat would unveil conspiracy theory

[@kumoraifox6357]

William never cared about his kids. And also, the Bite of '83 was not a springlock failure. it's been stated that when a springlock suit is in animatronic mode, the springlocks are locked into place, they can't become loose, and thus the Bite of '83 shouldn't have happened. And also, how does William have plenty of time installing cameras all over his house, yet not enough time to actually take care of his kids? And also, using Willgrief as his motivation for murder, thus basically suggesting Michael Afton is solely responsible for every single tragedy that's ever happened in the entire franchise.

[@siresquawks]

I mean William’s care and lack there of is harder to pin than you’d think. William did “try” (failed) to keep Elizabeth Away from Baby. He did keep tabs on Crying child through the plushie, so he did in some capacity want them to not die Arby he very least. How much he actually cared is part of the issue and question. And yes the Springlock suit probably isn’t the reason the bite happened. And also yea, I think Mike indirectly causes basically everything as a domino effect. That’s part of why he has to go on the journey to try and fix shit. It’s basic story telling and writing.

[@kumoraifox6357]

@@siresquawks Except that how come Henry never brings up the Bite of '83 anywhere? He says: "A wound first inflicted upon me, and one that I let bleed out to cause all of this." And also, William sent Elizabeth underground to be shocked and tortured for several weeks, and in The Fourth Closet, he flat out beats the shit out of her, but sure, he LOVES his kids. In both the games and the novels, nowhere was it ever stated that Afton killed kids simply because he lost a child. And if he blamed Henry for the event, why can't he just kill him instead? Or better yet, why hasn't Afton tried to seek therapy? And how is sending his father to Hell "fixing" his mistakes? Mike knows he's the one who turned William into a monster, and his thought is to say "Bye dad! Have fun in Hell! No redemption for you! :)"

[@kumoraifox6357]

@@siresquawks And also, according to your theories, Mike didn't do anything at all. Burning down the remains of Freddy's was Henry's idea. And setting the souls free was done by Charlie and the Crying Child.

[@siresquawks]

@@kumoraifox6357 Except for when Mike burned Frights down, or the fact that Henry's plan only worked because Mike brought them all together to be burned. Also stop trying to twist shit into extremes. My point was that Will has some small level of care for his kids, basic shit like "don't die.". That's not even a theory, it's fundamentally what we're shown. That last comment is just plain ridiculous. William still chose to kill kids with his grief. Mike's mistake may have been the impetus, but all of the Tragedies are still William's actions. Also, William is a child murder who only gets worse with time, TF redemption arc do you expect him to have? How can you argue that he's pure evil and hates his kids, and ALSO argue that Mike's in the wrong for not magically saving his corpse rabbit father from damnation. What story WOULD you want? One where William kills tons of kids and Mike just brings him to therapy and he becomes a philanthropist building orphanages?

[@kumoraifox6357]

@@siresquawks The story I want is for Mike to prove to William that it's never too late to change, that William can still be a good person, and fix his mistakes. I want Mike to show he's willing to make amends with his family, to show that he still loves them despite on what happened. Actually show Mike being kind, compassionate, and actually show genuine regret for what he's done, instead of saying he's a good person now simply because he helped Henry exact his vengeance on William while refusing to acknowledge that he was responsible for William's descent.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

Do think the Fred Bear is a nanny cam, and that the crying child just scared of the animatronics because he’s scared of them for no reason? Also what do think about the line “remember what you saw”? Do you think it’s just some fake crime? This is for my one hour video. It’s genuinely hard to talk about the bite when there’s no established ground. That’s very relevant because you claim it’s after the fnaf 4 mini games.

[@smt64productions40]

There is the quote “What is seen in shadows in easily misunderstood to a child” back then so

[@syweb2]

33:27 Remember that they were originally made for Pizza World, which then closed down. They were already made, but unused by that point. 36:20 Could you elaborate on what "Toy MCI" means? I'm not familiar with that one.

[@siresquawks]

The “DCI” the dead childrens incident, is the save them series of killings seen in Fnaf 2. Fnaf 1 states the MCI (Missing childrens incident) was when someone lured 5 kids into the back room in costume to (presumably) kill them and they were never seen. In Fnaf 2 we see bodies scattered around the building bloodied and left behind. This is fundamentally not them being lured into the back, implying William just massacred kids this time. A separate incident in Fnaf 2’s location compared to one from a prior location.

[@eaterbattery]

One problem. Sister location has to be before fnaf 2 because well, Micheal becomes a smelly corpse after sister location, and the whole "odor" thing is in fnaf 2... Unless of course the new Freddy fazbear pizza stays an awfully long time open?

[@KingOfDarknessAndEvil]

True, but the Funtime Animatronics were made far before SL took place, the things Baby said implied they've been treated like this for a long time

[@justice8718]

My god. Michael Afton is Jeremy. Fritz and Mike are literally Silly Willy trying to fuck Henry's company.

[@DotorInsanity]

42:13 it wasn't actually... you'd be surprised how many reactions still don't agree that Elizabeth death happening when it did

[@siresquawks]

Eh. It is what it is.

[@fazbearentertainment-LLC]

Loved the live

[@samdaman3895]

i would like if you made a timeline

[@siresquawks]

Some day

[@ericmagana3215]

This is literally, at least so far, rye toast theory but with some expansions and some other misses but mostly rye toast

[@siresquawks]

Kinda, but that’s not a bad thing. Like if something is commonly agreed to be correct agreeing with it isn’t bad. There no point in being contradictory just to be unique.

[@ericmagana3215]

@@siresquawks yeah all im saying is ryetoast did it first, except matpat forgot to say that the 5mci died because ,yeah charlie died to get back at henry, and the 5mci bullied crying child thats why he killed them too, and he also forgot the part that willy had to frame henry for the murders(not charlies of course but the other 5) to get him out of the way of his success, also explains why henry dont show up till like 30 years later rye toast said all that and it makes more sense to me, all in all, rye toast theories are a bit underrated

[@shaelynmartin1996]

@@ericmagana3215 Well, you can't say that Matt "forgot to mention" those things if he personally doesn't believe they happened. Not to mention, Matt isn't even done with the Afton Era. He talked *only* about William's portion of the story and has yet to touch on, for example, Michael's portion of the story. Regardless, does it really matter if the 5 MCI kids were the CC's bullies? It really doesn't. It's a cool thing to speculate, but it doesn't really matter either way. There is such a thing as over-explaining.

[@ericmagana3215]

@@shaelynmartin1996 it matters cauae it gives william reason to do it

[@shaelynmartin1996]

@@ericmagana3215 But he already has a reason to do it. He snapped. He's using this as punishment for Henry. It feels good to kill. And they were easy targets. Again, there is such a thing as over-explaining.

[@MoldyChunk]

My only question is if molten mci isnt a thing then why does william destroy the old animatronics what reason does he have?

[@siresquawks]

I’m not saying his intent wasn’t to get the remnant or do something with the souls of the classics, I’m saying he doesn’t necessarily have to succeed. MoltenMCI is a really complicated topic for me, I accept it’s pretty plausible but I also feel it has a decent amount of flaws an questionable aspects.

[@MoldyChunk]

@siresquawks I agree ive had trouble rationalizing the fnaf 3 minigames in the timeline as well as I dont really have an answer. Him just attempting to salvage remnant and failing is a good thought I think I like as well. And the whole problems brought in with molten mci like soul splitting makes things more foggy. I do like molten toy mci on rye toasts video which I like too, so william just trying to salvage the withereds makes sense.

[@CommunistCreeper]

I like finding fnaf KZbinrs and just seeing them get a lot a views in a short period of time.

[@denalpha4056]

My mother left her room Mom room is empty Mother is dead

[@Nightout88]

bro blew out my ear drums i was wearing head phones.

[@Nightout88]

@13:54 hey it's my turn mike-mare or nightmare mike.

[@Nightout88]

hey sir squawks you do know matpat doesn't really do anything anymore? besides just being "the face of the channel" like reading theories or announcing stuff. other then that matpat has a whole company of people under him who do the research and edit he has 5 main editors and 2 back up theorists as well as assistance who help him with stuff like gt live and his other channels. like he has a kid. the channel is mostly run by other people now i just wanted to bring this to your attention because @16:13 you quite BOLDLY assume "he's seen anybody's video", when it most likely wasn't him and it was just someone on the team being lazy or reaching out to rye toast for help or something. who knows.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

34:44 Do you believe that Mike was being haunted by Golden Freddy now? Inspite of the fact their be a giant ass print.

[@siresquawks]

What does the time stamp have to do with the question? I’m honestly not sure about the animatronic outside right now. I’m split between a few ideas.

[@Hot_SpicyGrill]

@@siresquawks the time stamp is for clarification if you weren’t sure what segment of the video I was talking about. In your frist calibration video, at the end you where mixed Fredd bear or Nightmare Fred bear. Passively agreed with Nightmare Fred in you rye toast stream. Then you showed what seemed to be a Fredd bear in your Mike video. But here you seemed to passively agree with Golden Freddy. Witch is completely different from both of those. I was just genuinely confused. In my video so far it’s very hard to pice together anything. You do think the Fred bear plush is a nanny cam right? No alter motives there.

[@user-nm1lx8qb3u]

Where's part 1 of this reaction?

[@cephlo4933]

Matpat definitely got Fnaf 4 wrong in the timeline

[@siresquawks]

nope

[@cephlo4933]

@@siresquawks It HAS to be, Fnaf 4 takes place in or after 1993 when Micheal is a security guard and gets nightmares from seeing the animatronics move at night or the CC tormenting Micheal with nightmares. I believe this cause the gameplay loop of Fnaf 4 and 1 is very similar, Bonnie and Chica both come through their respective doors which can't be a coincidence. And the final conclusive piece of evidence is that fact you can HEAR FNAF 1 PHONE CALLS IN FNAF 4!

[@cephlo4933]

Phone guy call: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nHW1iaWBlLGdZsk

[@cephlo4933]

@@siresquawks There's a bonus piece of evidence as Scott confirmed that Nightmare Balloon boy is canon which means that Micheal had to have worked at the night shift in fnaf 2. Arcing back to my point that fnaf 4 takes place in 1993 or even after sister location with the animatronics having 5 fingers (funtime foxy had that and also jumpscared mike on night 3). For Fredbears weird stomach mouth maybe, just maybe that might be a nod to when Mike opened Funtime Freddy's chest cavity. The nightmare animatronics are a mix of multiple animatronics

[@cephlo4933]

@@siresquawks I'll take this as a dub that I'm right :)

[@FosterBaba]

Huh??? So the only way MatPat could be right is if he got it from you and Ryetoast? And Ryetoast only got it from you??? Dude, other people were saying the same thing long before you. This franchise is so convoluted EVERYONE was saying EVERYTHING and seeing what stuck. Get off your high horse a bit. Be humble

[@FosterBaba]

Nice you put something along this line into a video earlier, but that’s all I’ll give you

[@siresquawks]

I literally said several times in this that I don’t think they got it from me. And rye toast commented on my Midnight motorist episode before making his timeline video, and game theory has acknowledged RyeToast before. I don’t believe for a second anyone on the team saw my stuff.

[@FosterBaba]

@@siresquawks must not have reached that part yet. I’m 22 minutes in and you’re saying over and over how this is your theory and your exact order of dead kids. How game theory got it from rye who got it from you, and that must be why matpat changed his dead kid order

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

I don't see anything egocentric in Squawks words, a mere simplification and nothing more

[@GreatRaijin]

Why would you comment this before finishing the video 🤦‍♂️

[@Wizardjones69]

Im think Elizabeth death was in 1984,but in 1985 after mci was cbear with chica party world, than the other funtimes have childe inside,in the year 1986,micheal go to the location,im think willian go to fnaf 1 location in 1995

[@SpiritOfSpite]

You deny molten mci but then what's your explanation then? In the game Molten debuts Candy-Cadet gives us the three stories that all boil down to "five things combine to become bad/worse", If Molten isn't the mci victims then what are those five things? They must be VERY relevant if it they must be directly pointed out three times.

[@siresquawks]

Unless it’s foreshadowing for the end of the game, Mike, Elizabeth, Charlie, Molten Freddy and William, coming together, since they all die in the stories once together. Or it’s a metaphor for how Henry inadvertently set up the 5 kids. The burglar, person who trapped the lady and the kids, and the snake are William, the main characters of each are Henry, and Molten Freddy’s three parts, Elizabeth, And Charlie are the kids/orphans/kittens. His efforts to help or entertain are corrupted by William leading to death. Or take the same scenario but it’s the 5 MCI kids becoming Molten Freddy, which does work too, but it’s not the only interpretation. They’re very flexible. Then there’s the Funtime Killing features which serve no narrative purpose whatsoever if they were just injected with Remnant. Why bring that idea up at all if they weren’t meant to have their own victims possessing them. Then there’s the clunky story telling where William goes to Fnaf 1 for follow me, dismantles each, makes ALL of the Funtime animatronics, then goes back once he destroyed them all and dies in that same/ brief time frame, off screen with minimal implications. It’s not that I think it’s impossible, I’m just uncertain and see an equal other theory, that I’m also unsure of, which is just that each Funtime has its own kid/there were a few kids slushed around between the funtimes as remnant that were killed in pizza world.

[@bernardomiguelgamer5295]

​​​​​@@siresquawks How exactly would you explain Henry in the Insanity Ending saying that the souls from the machines he made (the missing children spirits) were set to a new purpose by Afton,"using them in unimaginable ways" then,or how about he in that same monologue basically just saying that the missing children are some of the spirits that will receive his 'call' to come to the bulding,something that is only shown to have a connection to the 4 salvage animatronics?

[@siresquawks]

@@bernardomiguelgamer5295 The thing is he doesn't say Afton gave them that purpose. he says "Small souls trapped in prisons of my making now set to new purpose and used in ways I never thought imaginable." Which can also be interpreted as their quest for revenge against Afton. There's no specification like elsewhere in the monologue that Afton made them do something.

[@bernardomiguelgamer5295]

@@siresquawks that part in the dialogue is a continuation of "as if the suffering wasn't enough,the loss of innonce,the loss of everything to so many people",wich seems to put it in the perspective of Afton doing something different to the souls other than just killing them that caused them to haunt the original suits,something *more* than their original loss of innocence.Henry even says earlier in the dialogue,right before the part i just brough up IIRC, that this time "he found a new way to humiliate,desecrate and to destroy"."New way" being very important here. That interpretation you gave of that section could theoretically make sense,but with the context it is given prior to it,it is made very clear he's talking about something beyond that as far as i can see tbh. And i mean,even if we took that "alternative explanation" you gave,that wouldn't really explain how by the end of the monologue,he outright goes from talking about the missing children/the souls in the Follow Me minigames to saying that he'll try to get all the souls into the building through his call.That naturally sugests a connection between the two topics,so the missing children are supposed to receive the call-------->the salvage animatronics are the ones to receive the call--------->therefore the missing children need to be in one of the salvage animatronics------->So,they are in Molten Freddy.

[@siresquawks]

@@bernardomiguelgamer5295 Once Again I disagree with that interpretation. In the context it's viable to interpret Henry talking about the loss of innocent lives, and as if the fact that they died wasn't enough, they're stuck as animatronics singing dumb songs for years. That's the new way to humiliate, and the way Glitchtrap lures the player the backroom/stuffed ending of VR backs this interpretation up. The old way was Charlie's death, just leaving her to die. The MCI kids are different, potentially because he knew it would happen. He killed them knowing what could or would happen to them. Though I do agree that the final line is weird under this interpretation, I find it weirder that there's blueprints about how they'd kill kids, but they apparently didn't kill kids, but were injected with the molten down metal taken from old animatronics (off screen basically) but then being killed by the spirits he apparently stole and melted down into remnant, meaning either the souls were split (an idea never explained properly) between remnant and costume, and said costume halves can corner and kill William, and then fuck off I guess, but the other halves have to be lured and burned to be freed instead of happiest day, or something, or not??? MoltenMCI creates this weird sort of feedback loop of storytelling where rather than just 3 new characters having, 5 old ones are dragged into it out of nowhere. And IF ALL OF THAT's true, then TF are the classic animatronics in the Blob? The original costume half or the molten half? Both? We already have the 5 random kids who die in FNaF 2's save them that do basically nothing, why can't it be them who're melted down? Even if it's not them why couldn't it be a new set of victims? Everything hinges on basically one line.

[@joshibear2544]

At this point I just think bro is the biggest hater

[@siresquawks]

I liked the video?

[@manabenyan5009]

Bro side squeak, whyie is you Mr voice in videos so low. Please edit them with higher volume so people can have option to watch it at any volume🥲🥲🥲🥲🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰

[@siresquawks]

Was it that bad all the way through? I know I flubbed it at the start but I thought I fixed it according to chat.

[@Boogioh12]

The insane ego into hater energy is crazy in this video

[@siresquawks]

I was just excited because I was worried about the timeline- and started getting worried again towards the end.

[@thekeeper1287]

To me Charlie will always be first and then CC.

[@75JUNAKI]

Agreed

[@xxWinterSpacexx]

but why kill her? idk no motive and just “he’s evil” is lazy and i doubt that’s what scott wants

[@forkalamari6093]

I have a compromise for you. MoltenNMV. MoltenMCI is true in my opinion, but they ALSO had their own murder victims, i.e. NMV - New Murder Victims. MoltenDCI is also another thing.

[@somethingorother474]

Is this guy really using Microsoft edge?

[@siresquawks]

Normally I use Opera GX, I just use Edge to avoid constant account switching and keep my personal life as separated from my youtube one as possible.

[@hanakoisbestgirl4752]

Did you record the reaction to part 1 of the timeline?

[@siresquawks]

No, as I wasn't streaming and wasn't sure if I wanted to react to Part 1.

[@picunya]

i think saying someone stole a timeline theory is really stupid. you mentioning time and time again how matt stole yours or ryetoasts timeline's is so silly, cause you reached those conclusions by looking at the order of events in the game and story overall, why would you say that someone else couldn't have done that as well? it's just such a silly point to bring up over and over again.

[@siresquawks]

I didn't say that. It was more that I was shocked to see a theory I agreed with and had even made a video about make it into a game theory episode. It was a somewhat niche video only a few months ago, and I'm just happy it's now being picked up by more channels.

[@picunya]

@@siresquawks that's completely fair and i understand feeling proud of the conclusions you've come to being validated by others. heck, your newest michael video is the one i personally 100% agree with! but insinuaiting that matt must've seen and must be following ryetoasts video (who's seen your video) to come to the conclusion of the order of events just seems like you're downplaying the research these creators have done. especially when i've seen your reaction to the timeline ryetoast made, where you almost mock him for saying michael would be the second strongest soul around. it all just makes me feel conflicted, and you saying how it's stupid that matt would spend the last few minutes explaining the placement of elizabeth's death when earlier you're saying how this is the best timeline theory because it's like the only one that follow the order of events you've come to is... silly.

[@fivenightsatjayden]

My ears

[@siresquawks]

Sorry

[@DragonSkies0211]

Ayo? Mikey-Wikey Motorist??

[@SuperStar-ss1pn]

12:45 Its called background 26 I can link you the original if you want

[@therealharshlycritical]

im sorry this timeline came off like a bad first draft of the movies

[@cephlo4933]

Matpat left out the message saying "Do you have dreams". Which is the same page where nightmare Fredbear is drawn on, contradicting the theory about illusion discs and how Fnaf 4 is a nightmare.

[@Mrt9707]

35:00 ähm how does then molten freddy work in fnaf pizza simulator ?, the only soul what would be in ennard are baby (elizabeth), why would ennard then seperate ? since there is scrapbaby

[@siresquawks]

The alternative is that the funtime's used their killing/luring features and got their own victims, as implied by their blueprints.

[@Mrt9707]

@@siresquawks ok but i think makes not much sense even if they go on to private performance, it would really fast be found out, or it could be why funtimefoxy ends up as mangel in fnaf 2 location ? like omg free the kid out of it with everything necessary. but wait does funtimefoxy not become a part of ennard in sister location ? must that then mean ennard splitt in mangel, scarpaby and molten freddy or am i dumm now

[@bernardomiguelgamer5295]

​​@@Mrt9707 Sister Location Funtime Foxy and Mangle aren't the same robot.

[@jaxmax-mz3ff]

Is it just me or does everyone find this clip hilarious 7:21

[@metallistener340]

bro is debating mattpat videos like destiny debating a political radical

[@siresquawks]

Really? I liked the video?

[@metallistener340]

@@siresquawks maybe debate was a wrong wording because u agree with most of it but when u do criticize the video u have a similar tone to destiny and it’s a little funny

[@GreatRaijin]

Theory is coming out great but man, i dislike all the unecessary exposition in between like telling us how henry walked in to see springtrap and how william was holding out hope that Henry would help him or telling us how william disliked spring bonnie not being in the TV show and such, all that stuff is pointless, kinda wish he just gave a straight timeline without the fluff

[@siresquawks]

eh it is what it is I don't mind.

[@TheAscendedEmperor]

tbf Fnaf as a series is just fluff

[@albumkosong]

He do it for narrative purposes not just describe the timeline

[@corazondonquixote]

41:03 lmao

[@ForgedinPrint]

I will say this about game theory (please do not send hate for this), his researchers had been caught directly ripping off of two separate theories, one from legaleagle and another one from a redditor over their theory on 2b2t (he did apologize for both of them). The redditor one had a little stronger evidence since according to them game theory left out some details which wouldn't have seemed important to an outsider but to someone who's been a part of it for a long time would have known was really important. With how you're acting, this seems like it might be the case something similar happened, he's just a little more narrative driven than normal. How you treat this info is up to you.

[@theonewhospeaksfacts]

Ummmm no your wrong my guy, mat at the end of the video goes on about how Elizabeth died before CC, so he basically thinks like this charlie>CC>Elizabeth so he basically still thinks that Eli was the first MC to die in FNAF

[@siresquawks]

Yeah but he says that isn't correct. He says it can't be true because William has no reason to make Baby a killing device. Watch the video.

[@Harlez]

Common Squawks W

[@The_Ajna]

Holy shit bro get your audio balancing down better lol. Great content besides that

[@siresquawks]

Shit's not easy to do on the fly, mid stream. Chat said it was fixed after the start, so if you don't like it for the rest of the video I'm sorry.

[@The_Ajna]

@@siresquawks all good man it's just frustrating when good content is held back by mic quality. Keep up the good content

[@dankmemer6576]

2 questions my dude(this doesn't have to do with the vid but with fnaf 6) 1. Isn't Henry still alive? I mean he wasn't in the pizzeria when it burned, he was somewhere else. 2. Who was the job listing in fnaf 6 meant for? Henry states that Michael found the job listing but it wasn't intended for him. Then who was it for?

[@siresquawks]

1. he said "I am nearby", and in SB we see a control room that starts lighting everything on fire, implying it was Henry's hidden room in the pizzeria. 2. It was just meant for some schmuck to get everyone together and get out after being bait. It just happened that Mike was that schmuck.

[@dankmemer6576]

@@siresquawks Thanks for the clarification, although I feel like the 2nd is too plain of an explanation. If that was the case he wouldn't have said it wasn't meant for him, instead that he was unlucky or something like that. The way he phrased it makes it seem like it was for a specific person.

[@smt64productions40]

I am gonna head canon Henry was considering Phone Dude until proven otherwise

[@Gerbert67]

I find the idea of Style Theory really fucking hilarious. Like, the guy who dresses like a 10-year-old who thinks the word "gamer" is cool is gonna talk about style.