The Rainmaker "Don't Retreat" Message Is Confusing

[@sunayama4650]

"Don't retreat!" was prompting the rainmaker not to jump out of your hands to get away from that mask

[@hippie1252]

😂😂

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@sunayama4650 Nice harassment. 💀 Wheresh the preoof? Can u form ur own opinion without jumping to conclusions or be4 shreeing the evreidence 1•? Oh nvm u cant cuz ure a child and victim of the social media. Disgusting.

[@yoshikai64]

They should really have a marker on the points line which shows how far back you can move before the message pops up

[@planet9964]

I would add that the indicator should appear for everyone and fade out once you pass mid. And that if “don’t retreat” is on the rainmaker’s screen that the same message or “PUSH!” Should be displayed on all players screen to indicate a need for specific rainmaker assistance.

[@Sapphireeyes104]

​@@planet9964Agreed, but I think it should say "Push Forward" to be a little more specific for newer players who wouldn't understand the lingo to immediately make that connection. Just a suggestion for clarity.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@Sapphireeyes104Push forward doeshntre sound like the game is making your countredown go faster tho in case u stand still, dont retreat is a far better indication in this case imho. Sometimes sitting still with the rainmaker (and being patient) is the right play.

[@TheMistermastermario]

"i tried seeing if the wiki could explain what happened, but what it said contradicted my experience, so I went to dataminers to clear things up as well as update the wiki" This is a great mindset to have a lot of youtube videos will talk about the wiki is wrong, then proceed to not update it even though the wiki is a public resource

[@vinnae]

Thank you for the explanation on this. My intuition on how the Don't Retreat mechanic works already led me to subconsciously understand that carrying the Rainmaker was intended for you to push ahead only when you are absolutely sure you can, and to be punished by a faster timer if you misjudged the situation and needed to fall back. So on a very abstract level I understood this concept of the line moving with you as you push forward. However, putting that into words if I had been asked would not have yielded successful results, interestingly enough. It's something I did in practice by pure intuition (which is why the keyword was "subconsciously") but wouldn't have been able to explain to someone else new to Rainmaker if they had asked me, I would have just said "don't fall back with the Rainmaker". It's also very helpful to know this doesn't apply past mid, as my intuition always led me to hold the Rainmaker and not push forward if I wasn't sure even when on the enemy's side of the map, but knowing that I can retreat as much as I want as long as I'm past mid helps with doing more deliberate and conscious decisions whenever I play this mode again.

[@DarkWizardFoxo]

im glad to see a video clearing up the rainmaker mechanics since its always confused me

[@verrrrrmichelle]

yo, the sound is louder now! (i think) i dont know what you did, but thanks!

[@rbarua3368]

I don’t have anything to say about the audio, but I do wish the Splatoon developers could be more explicit about this. This information could be useful to develop the game’s competitive potential, and it’s frustrating that we may not be able to get answers from the source about these mechanics. Masahiro Sakurai has been doing a series on KZbin discussing his knowledge of developing video games, and while I don’t agree with him on everything, his information is a great resource that could help people make games better. A mechanic to discourage camping and/or behavior that leads to stalemates is interesting, and I hope that this information becomes more well known because it may benefit other games besides Splatoon.

[@melody3741]

Nintendo HATES acknowledging that their games are programs. They leave it up to us to datamine. Nintendo execs are fuckwads who do not know what they are doing - thats just how it is

[@durdleduc8520]

one of my early frustrations when i first picked up Splatoon 2 was the lack of clarity in objective mechanics. sure, i understood what the objective was in all modes, but it wasn't really ever communicated to me what a Knockout meant and what conditions started overtimes. i love the complexity of the gamemodes, but it's a little silly how everything we know about the nuanced rules we have to figure out ourselves

[@MythicFox]

@@durdleduc8520 I still remember when they first added Clam Blitz to Splatoon 2 after launch, and I had absolutely no clue what I was doing for the first four or five matches and disliked the experience so much I barely touched it for most of the game's run.

[@Lucs100]

This is unfortunately really prevalent in Nintendo's design philosophies recently. Plenty of their games have pretty complex mechanics, but they abstract a *lot* of that detail away in what seems to be shielding players from information overload. Which is fine - new players don't need to know how much faster the RM timer counts down in an RM-free zone, or that you drain the tower checkpoint timer faster if multiple players are on the tower, or that you shouldn't pick up a pity clam right away. They're all good things to know, but new players need to know the basic mechanics first, not the specifics. The problem is that those specific details are not mentioned *anywhere* in the game (and if they are it's in a very obscure area or in a roundabout, succinct, imprecise way). It's the same thing with the patch notes - we rarely get to know how much a weapon was buffed by, just that it "fires slightly faster" or that a stage's terrain was "changed". Across so many different games I just get the feeling Nintendo doesn't want anyone to look too deeply into the mechanics, but to just play and have fun in a casual way - which is really, really disappointing considering that it absolutely fucking sucks to lose a game because of a specific interaction you were never told about. The ranked systems almost feel a similar way, and it's frustrating.

[@SarCexdxd]

It is the Grand Festival yet he doesn't show signs of life

[@Woopsies]

Wow, what a pretty useful channel that is great for beginners looking to get into the comp scene! I sure hope that the owner doesn’t end up committing crimes that result in a restraining order being filed against him, while also posing as an active danger to the community that he seeks to teach!!!!

[@SacredRazor365]

Allegedly. My opinion is it's a smear, for sure. Splat safety unanimously decided there wasn't any evidence to be able to ban him over, and if she's reporting and placing a restraining order in real life, then there's no reason to bring all this info to the splat community at all. Its likely another case of cheater gets caught and falsely claims assault in an attempt to avoid accountability. Burning people at the stake in the absence of any evidence is a dangerous practice, people are innocent until proven guilty for a reason. I may eat my words, we will see, but at least wait until a proper legal decision has been made rather than just jumping into the twitter mob.

[@JujuBennie]

wait what? what did he do??? 😭😭😭

[@Pearl7sp]

@@JujuBenniethere hasn’t been enough evidence on either side to make a conclusion, we should trust victims but i personally am going to wait for evidence from gems side

[@MoRiSeR_]

@@Pearl7spSupport victims, don’t trust them is my personal opinion. Basically be there for them but don’t jump to conclusions without proper evidence/proof.

[@HereWhereTheWorldIsQuiet]

WHAT!?

[@OmegaM3TE0R]

From my time playing Rainmaker since Splatoon 1, I learned that the best strategy when being the Rainmaker holder is to hold the position and spam attacks to cover ground and support your teammates in far off fights. Slowly but surely, the big explosions create paint or kill a few enemies and this creates a snowball effect in which the enemy is so pressured and outnumbered that trying to attack us becomes impossible and they are forced to retreat, giving the Rainmaker free pass.

[@garrettbrothers6989]

It's definitely better to stay behind your teammates when you have the rainmaker. I've seen pushes that should have been free ruined when the rainmaker pushed ahead too aggressively. That being said, I've also seen a 4v2 setup ruined because the rainmaker stalled too long, letting the enemy team respawn. Ultimately, you can measure the health of a rainmaker push by how many of the Rainmaker's teammates are alive.

[@brogoyle]

Coming back to this this actually kind of hurts. I always admirer your desire to be more of an “authentic” mentor/person than a youtuber trying to appease the algorithm, and you often gived great advice… Not just on splatoon, but like life. just what the hell happened…

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Context??? What happened?????

[@johndelanie3649]

​@@SimoneBellomonte Squid school is a squiddie diddler

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@SimoneBellomonte Squid school has allegedly committed SA. The accusations as far as I know haven't been 100% proven.

[@qwertyqwertperson]

@@nastybean8027free diddy he didn’t do nothing

[@Gabledbank]

@@nastybean8027 Gem and Diddy. I hope Gem is freed, but not Diddy. If the allegations are true, then imprison them both.

[@SomeGalNamedEve]

Remember everyone, DO NOT HARASS GEM. You are absolutely allowed to have strong feelings about the situation, but do not direct them as harassment towards Gem. Harassment only ever makes a situation like this worse.

[@everest5718]

Agreed

[@Jsealeyjr]

Finally someone with common sense

[@AquaQuokka]

There we go. Was waiting for this comment. Amazing as always Temmie :)

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Liking to hopefully push this a bit more to the top, i want to see evidence from both shreidesh be4 jumping to concrlushreionsh….

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@everest5718 Pfp (Profile Picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

[@N30_ORD3R]

bro is retreating from the ukulele apology video

[@LunarBingusOLDCHANNEL]

VILE 😭

[@PathfinderfromSplatoon]

All aboard the toxic reefslider

[@Lou_animates]

@@PathfinderfromSplatoon💀💀

[@tootiredforlife.]

​​@@PathfinderfromSplatoon "toxic Reefslider" is GENIUS 💀

[@dianalynn4141]

​@@PathfinderfromSplatoon innocent until proven guilty but that's a keeper for shore pun intended 😂

[@pikagiuppy93]

i still have to get used to your new audio lol, it sounds too clear

[@BeretBay]

lol same.

[@takobakogames]

I didn't even know there were some conditions that made the rainmaker timer tick faster 😅 this video was super helpful!

[@totkfan]

why did it have to happen to SQUID SCHOOL the only channel i watch

[@SashyAnnabanana]

hopefully this will finally make people realize big personalities aren't your friends!

[@sulphuuur]

@@SashyAnnabanana i hope that it was already that even before the entire situation

[@patheticapathetic5826]

@@sulphuuur unfortunately the splatoon community has a bit of a problem with parasocial relationships 😭

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Context??? Also why do qureuick to jumping to conclusions???

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Oh and also Pfp (Profile Picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

[@allenparker2113]

Please remember that gem may not be saying anything because he has a lawyer not because he’s ignoring the drama

[@Silverrrrrr12]

This isnt drama. He raped someone.

[@rhyspieces5718]

@@Silverrrrrr12he allegedly raped someone

[@beny400]

Having learned enough from this channel, it's now time to stand on our own two feet.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Proof?

[@cousinparty7266]

Seeing how the comments are now flooded by the recent evidence that came out against him, I’m curious if he’ll make an effort to address this, twist it around, or just post like it’s any other day of the week

[@sawgiie]

In situations like this the best way for him to handle this is to take enough time to gather his thoughts and present his side of the story in a calm and concise manner. There’s no specific due date of when he should release a response, but we’ll know if he’s taking too long

[@thelanktheist2626]

@@sawgiiethe way he did not answer ANYTHING concisely sends me

[@sawgiie]

@@thelanktheist2626 bros playing the long game

[@giganticmoon]

@@sawgiiehe released a response saying that he was defamed and basically saying your wrong im right

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@thelanktheist2626 Evil lawyers be like: You need to post a response now, this will greatly benefit you

[@BeeLy1011]

Well you're retreating from my notifs/subscriptions that's for sure

[@RandomSmallfry]

I unsubbed from KZbin and unfollowed from twitter. This situation is genuenly disgusting.

[@bouncybubble]

@@RandomSmallfryYo Smallfry

[@MoRiSeR_]

Oh, hey it’s ​​⁠@@RandomSmallfry! Eh, I’ll wait for the final verdict until I form an opinion. All of this is pretty vague and I think right now there are pretty equal chances for him being either guilty or innocent based on what the public knows. I’ll just wait and see as I hate being judged from the get go and I think everyone deserves a chance to defend themselves regardless of what it is. For now I‘m just neutral on the situation.

[@NunnyNugget]

@@MoRiSeR_ yea. Even though cases like these are always taken seriously as they should be, this is one of those rare cases where there is actually a decent amount of evidence to the contrary, that Gem is really innocent. For now though, gotta wait and see how things unfold. If evidence comes out that proves Gem is without a doubt guilty of the accusations then yes, he deserves all the backlash. But as of right now there’s enough evidence that the accuser may have also been acting out of malice. We will see.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Context?

[@kaichu9446]

over a month, damn that shit means its serious, hope its not true man.

[@navyactor]

unfortunately it's true enough for his ex partner to have a restraining order placed upon him. unfortunate as hell but it just goes to show how little you can know about someone from behind a screen

[@skywalkerb6746]

What exactly happened with him?

[@L0wded_]

I refuse to believe he did it man 😭

[@Lìnne1196]

@@skywalkerb6746im pretty sure he sexually assaulted his ex or something I really hope its not true D:

[@Lìnne1196]

@@skywalkerb6746ohhhh btw iirc it’s not confirmed yet and i think Gem is taking it to court

[@Magic_Mango]

"Don't Retreat!" from the allegations, Gem

[@raphael9028]

real

[@dynamorolleruser]

uhhh what did he do?…

[@Magic_Mango]

@@dynamorolleruser Allegedly SA'd his gf

[@navyactor]

@@dynamorolleruser sexual assault and coercion into sex.....(rape)

[@dynamorolleruser]

@@navyactor oh no… please let the allegations be false

[@viviennenorthwoods]

you can take the man out of the smash melee scene but you can’t take the smash melee scene out of the man

[@jaredwalla3064]

😭😭😭

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Source??? Also Pfp (Profile Picture) and / or Banner Sauce (Source [Artist])? 🗿

[@smoothi3631]

You know this video's title gets more ironic every day

[@lillithharrison2807]

Time to limit comments before it’s too late bruh

[@pillarcure]

completely unrelated but you have one of my favorite intros on youtube... it's so silly and fun

[@SquidSchool]

Thank you! It was put together for me by Gaffe. You can find him on Twitter at @gaffeOS

[@stupideditcentral5485]

@@SquidSchool You can’t retreat forever lil bro

[@Stan.Mozzarella]

@@SquidSchool you know whats not silly and fun? what ive been hearing abt u so maybe u would want to explain urself?

[@RandomSmallfry]

please do.

[@itzdim2030]

@@Stan.Mozzarella wait till lawyer

[@elizabethramirezthezenshii9691]

don't think you're fucking retreating from this

[@Xashi4]

😭😭

[@icchorist]

So cringe they were airing out dirty laundry on social media and u think ur apart of it fkin goober

[@FukaStorm]

This comment is silly I can’t 😭😂

[@elizabethramirezthezenshii9691]

@@FukaStorm Thank you so much!! Gonna be honest I laughed after reading what I wrote-

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Can i give some context, also i would wait for undeniable proof from either side be4 jreumping to concrelushreionsh…….

[@Aoryen]

*Added a link to the doc in the replies if you wanna check it out Could we actually research whatever allegations we're dogpiling people for? Jesus christ There's literally a whole document compiled by the victim and for the love of god we should actually read it and make a damn informed opinion That being said, I still think the dude needs to respond to that junk Literally just read it again, the main thing I took away is that Gem is just extremely blunt when speaking and the victim who made the document on "subtle manipulation" should probably also look at some of their own damn messages This is a shitshow 😀

[@marumicore]

I didn't know the victim had a document at all, all I've been seeing is the response by Splat Safety and their proof of reporting no matter how hard I look. If you would be so kind could you link it to me?

[@birdflox1337]

Info on the matter is spread all across the place, with some only being trusted with certain community moderators. The victim's Twitter has been locked down as well now. There's definitely more than the document lets on, it's worded in a very confusing way but I do believe he has been accused of sexual assault.

[@Beckett.]

@@marumicore the "victim" made a document on how gem is manipulative and showed messages to prove it, but the messages were not at all manipulative and they both just have disagreements.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

There is no link, wheres the damn doc? Use a text to binary or hexadecimal or whatever converter if youtubeshrel blocking links pls.

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@Beckett.So hes innocent? Can i have a shreource on that?

[@epicsause21]

I kind of already knew this, surprised the wiki didnt get it right.

[@ExzaktVid]

The person on our team who has the rainmaker running backwards in overtime while 3/4 of the enemy team is dead:

[@Platinum_XYZ]

I recently suggested to increase your audio levels in your previous video which it seems like you've done in this video, which is a good thing. I do notice it sounds like you've applied compression to your audio, although I do feel as if it is turned up too intensely for this video. while compressors/limiters can make voice audio easier to hear, they can also make it feel too intense, unnatural and "too loud" and some commenters have pointed out. it's all about finding the sweet spot where compression is not too much but also not too overbearing. you can precisely adjust "how intense" a compressor is by using the threshold setting, and avoid reducing it too much. however you've taken good steps towards when it comes to increasing loudness for your youtube videos.

[@loganherrera7106]

My little PSA: we do not know for sure what happened at the moment. all we can do is have an open mind: believe the victim because it is morally correct, but logically understand that gem is not 1000% confirmed to be guilty, and thus should not be stated guilty. most importantly, if you harass either about this situation, you are no better than the wrongdoing within this situation. At the time of typing this, Grand Festival is in 2 weeks. We all play this game because we love it (and sometimes hate it, thanks Nintendo for your wonderful online services), so let’s keep it that way. The best we can do as a community is to spread kindness, positivity, and truth, and when the outcome of the situation is revealed, we do our best to stay strong and move to a better future. With all that being said about futures, Past is my team, what’s yours?

[@johndelanie3649]

"If you harass either side you're literally as bad as a kiddie diddler" you definitely sound like you have your priorities straight lmao. Dude was an ex smash player and a school teacher, this should not have come as a surprise to anyone.

[@loganherrera7106]

@@johndelanie3649 so all smash players that are school teachers should be investigated for being pdf files and such? This is stereotyping to say the least My point is, don’t spread more hate than there already is, all we need to do is support those who need aka the victim, and on top of that, none of the allegations have legally been proven to be true. Frown upon Gem’s (potential) actions, but don’t follow up with toxicity and hate, even if it may be true

[@yoursnatchedweave641]

@@johndelanie3649you are weird af dude

[@JujuBennie]

I go by “support the victims but don’t always trust them”. Sometimes, people just do these things to get back at whoever hurt them, even if the accused technically didn’t do anything wrong.

[@loganherrera7106]

​@@JujuBennie Maybe this was the case, maybe it wasn’t. Best we can do is not assume anything until everything’s confirmed. For now, neither sides’ stories true nor false to the public so I’m choosing to stay neutral and play grand festival in peace

[@sulphuuur]

dont retreat from these allegations bro

[@4per8]

thats the best comment on this fr

[@mashedspud]

Don’t copy my hit comment please

[@AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

@@mashedspuddont complain about words on a screen please

[@_TaxFraud_]

What happened bruh 💀

[@AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

@@_TaxFraud_ gem sexually assaulted someone, i dont remember the details on who but pretty sure it was his ex, there’s proof and everything

[@DJSKirby64]

I looked up to you for tips man. How could you?

[@bouncybubble]

NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED.

[@syylent]

How could he do what? Be accused? Cus theres no proof yet lol

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Proof?

[@name6953]

just keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forwardjust keep moving forward forward

[@knottednumber]

Oh shit dude can someone refresh me on the gem situation

[@magicaloctopus613]

Gem, you were the reason I started getting into competitive Splatoon. I've enjoyed your squid school streams and vod reviews. I looked up to you. Now hearing about this, I don't think I can ever forgive you.

[@AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH]

@@ieatlotsofsandokdefending a rapist is crazy lmfao there’s literally legal docs and a restraining order, just shows what kinda person you are ig

[@TerabyteOcto]

​@@ieatlotsofsandok Because you haven't seen it

[@SashyAnnabanana]

​@@ieatlotsofsandokthere literally is 😭😭😭

[@yoursnatchedweave641]

@@AUGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHy'all really need to calm down. it is not good to jump to conclusions because you twitter users don't know what's going on, only the people involved do. wait and see what the courts say before destroying someone's reputation

[@birdflox1337]

​@@yoursnatchedweave641I believe it's perfectly human to come to conclusions based off of evidence. People's perceptions can change as more things happen, but right now, I would certainly not simply assume Squidschool must be the reasonable one here.

[@Velocity_6410]

Great video but does gem's voice sound different to y'all?

[@lasagna3289]

He mentioned in a community post he's fiddling with some audio settings

[@LongDeadArtist]

He refined his sound

[@Kmtin21345]

This audio is so good it sounds like text to speech. It’s very crisp

[@vnmememan8657]

​@@Kmtin21345idk, gonna take a bit to get used to

[@anoncuber1510]

yeah it sounds more bassy he wanted to just make it louder but he ended up making the low end too loud

[@shaner_manerzz6644]

freaky ass inkling he a 69 god 😭🙏🏽

[@xonytfr]

hey hey hey hey run for yo life

[@sadyoshhours2769]

LOL

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@nastybean8027Proof?

[@tiqosc1809]

the fact squid school missing the largest splatfest 😢

[@L0wded_]

he probably has played it. Just hasn't been able to talk about it because he's dealing with some stuff rn.

[@johndelanie3649]

Dating advice: If someone says no, stop!

[@squiddler7731]

It's kinda funny how in a way, this mechanic encourages stalling even more in some specific situations. Obviously it still hard punishes you from running back which is what it's meant to do, but if you make an aggressive push and then are forced to pull back, then you get punished for coming back to the same spot you were 5 seconds ago. Meanwhile if someone else were to just stay in that spot without moving forward at all, they get to do that for a full minute no problem. Maybe instead of the invisible "don't retreat" line always moving up with the player, it should slowly move up on it's own (slow enough that it might take like 10-15 whole seconds to catch up if you don't move at all). But then when you do move up, it'll speed up rather than instantly snapping to your new position, encouraging aggression more and dissuading stall. And same as before, this would only apply on the defending team's side (though maybe if you tweaked the mechanics enough, it could apply up to the first checkpoint once that team has managed to break through said checkpoint, discouraging stall even more.

[@CathodeRayKobold]

The problem with that is that stalling for a whole minute doesn't get your progress marker to a winning state. It just makes you not lose longer.

[@REJILL333]

Omg poor man I mean I don’t know the whole situation but I hope he comes back 😢

[@misspixisix]

On August 26th a hearing was held. Both parties agreed to a no-contact order. The defamation case was never followed up on. Gem has decided independently to pause his online posting indefinitely.

[@NunnyNugget]

@@misspixisixGood to know this, thanks for the update.

[@This-Was-Sparta]

@@misspixisix Awe man, indefinitely? :(

[@REJILL333]

@@misspixisix but will he ever come back?

[@Magic_Mango]

Interesting, I didn't hear about that. Do you have a source? ​@misspixisix

[@tiqosc1809]

Gem is about the become the thing he swore to destroy, I'm slightly baised for gem but at the same time I definly can't watch the wrong doing of his slip by

[@inabudon]

trynna play anarchy but his rank is c minussssssssss

[@AquaQuokka]

Psssst, I see squid people

[@AquaQuokka]

Ink upon the field, ho

[@didgeridooo]

​@@AquaQuokkaseeker any sub saver he outta ink ho

[@didgeridooo]

​@@AquaQuokka3 down call a cooler tell em push bro

[@AquaQuokka]

​@@didgeridooo Fail a super clam toss, they scramble 'round like "veemo"

[@SmartLink11...]

I know what i must do but i don't know if i have the strength to do it

[@celestialspark5697]

I suppose the downside to forcing the Don't Retreat situation as the attackers, pushing the carrier back into spawn, is that the defenders are probably relatively happy to let the time run out, since the rainmaker will reset to mid rather than drop in the middle of their spawn. Probably more useful in overtime than when pushing for points.

[@Ushiriel]

When is the new dating advice video coming out?? 😂😂

[@SimoneBellomonte]

💀

[@akarien1395]

I actually researched all this stuff on my own about a year ago... i guess i should have shared it... oops

[@knivezchau]

gem please dont beat me next

[@CheeseWheels-cg3me]

Is everything okay it’s been a while… (has there been any more info I don’t know if anything changed or whatever)

[@enecofan888]

SA allegations, the whole thing is going to court, so neither side wants to post anything online in the meantime I think

[@Lucs100]

This is honestly such a weird technicality. Retreating or not (by the game's pathfinding system), Rainmaker-Free Zones have no reason to apply the countdown penalty during overtime.

[@kreauwu]

Man this channel would've been cool had the creator not been a absolute freak

[@voice_0f_reason]

What'd I miss?

[@cousinparty7266]

@@voice_0f_reasonto catch you up, Gem (owner of the channel) SA’d his ex (who goes by Six on the internet). Six reported this case to the police and has given Gem a restraining order.

[@mouseyoutube11]

​@@voice_0f_reason i couldn't get through the google doc that six made because it was literally just selective screenshots of them saying "my feelings were hurt :(" while calling the behavior abusive, when in reality they just both sucked at communicating. don't go off my word either though. my point is, look in to it and decide for yourself if the claims have any merit.

[@cousinparty7266]

@@mouseyoutube11six literally got SA’d with several legal documents confirming it and you just summed up her story as “my feelings were hurt :(“????

[@mouseyoutube11]

@@cousinparty7266 the legal documents confirm she filed papers, the court didn't decide anything. i'm just saying the google doc was a far far reach trying to connect him to abuse, so it makes me skeptical of other claims.

[@steeveedragoon]

This seems like a mess... I've seen weirder stuff in games though, so this isn't too bad. It's just confusing

[@jvdos]

…and so much for the new quality audio

[@ZaneTheSnowman]

How about you dont retreat from addresing the allegations

[@ZaneTheSnowman]

Im still gonna keep neutral on this, what happened with kwite before has already teached me that not everything is what it seems at first sight and both sides should be heard specially in cases like this, but it is hard considering the proof agaisnt him is actually physical instead of Google doc number 10

[@thesamesunrise5297]

⁠@@ZaneTheSnowmanyeeaahhh exactly what I’m feeling right now :( so disappointing. definitely wanna hear his side too but it’s not looking good. :(

[@SimoneBellomonte]

How about you stop harassing? Can i see some proof 1•?

[@SimoneBellomonte]

@@ZaneTheSnowmanAlso whos kwite?

[@Diddz]

my impressions of the retreat line's aggressiveness is that it encourages unsafe rushing that would otherwise cost the game anyway which is why if my group is pressured this badly when we have a shot at triggering overtime at the end of the timer as the losing party, i already declare the loss before the game even ends. my rainmaker matches in overtime loss were always either forced into a retreat then camped for the entire rainmaker timer thats now ticking fast, or splatted by the frontliners when the team avoids the retreat penalty

[@jvdos]

Man, was i looking forward to final fest with Gem. I hope this isnt true man

[@hnglbanana]

people saying gem's voice too loud are tripping, this audio balance is perfect imo

[@gabumon5]

THIS its so much easier to just lower your own audio than trying to do the other way around when its too quiet

[@sawgiie]

is it really that hard to keep your hands to yourself

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Is it really that hard to look for evidence be4 jumping to conclusions, and to not harass people regardless. 💀💀💀

[@sawgiie]

@@SimoneBellomonte "harass" this is the only time I've ever left a comment here + I forgot about it go argue with someone else 😭

[@mirrorprism999]

what the hell dude

[@skunkooo]

weird this came out the exact same day i got blindsided by this and accidentally killed a push lol

[@MikooOnYoutube]

Man you really shouldn't have been giving out dating advice, of all things...

[@vertical6866]

you can really hear the compression, gem’s voice sounds so crisp now 😁😁

[@smugzuck]

squid school what team did you pick for this splatfest

[@johndelanie3649]

Past because he definitely has no future lmao

[@Falcolique]

​@@johndelanie3649 Hold up!!! his writting is fire!!!!????

[@EvilSquidSchool]

Evil Squid School never retreats from the accusations

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

Twitter user thinks going to court = retreating from the allegations

[@Ikari_Taiyo11]

KZbin commenters think that "Bc I said so"=evidence

[@willowk]

all the "dating advice" videos u did feel so dark now

[@SimoneBellomonte]

Proof?

[@genos_303]

rip squid school

[@ryanl6037]

he a fan he a fan he a fan

[@shaner_manerzz6644]

he a fan he a fan he a.. freaky ass inkling he a 69 god.

[@sho_gzn]

Restrict your comments IMMEDIATELY 😭🙏

[@lordlyka68]

So then what's up with the little triangle on the rainmaker HUD that as soon as you pass it in shipshape, triggers the don't retreat? Came back to his channel to see if we had any updates and there were none, so might as well try asking the question i had

[@carlos41519]

The triangle is there to show which weapon you are spectating in replay mode It was just a coincidence that he retreated

[@lordlyka68]

@@carlos41519 oh damn, thanks for letting me know! Weird way to show it in replay mode but tbh I think almost all the controls in replay mode are weird so not surprising

[@sorenmathieson]

Not gonna talk about the allegations huh

[@thesamesunrise5297]

hey man can you please address the allegations… :( i wanna hear your side of the story and I understand needing some time to respond to this stuff but it’s not looking good dude.. right now I’m feeling so disappointed that I looked up to you, like how do you preach so much good advice on being a good person in and out of the game while supposedly not even following your own advice in your private life. :(

[@cultmecca]

Two thing 1. Don’t look up to Internet personalities 2. People that are flawed can still give good advice

[@aegis84]

If there's an ongoing court case, which his initial tweets regarding this indicated, then it's possible he is legally unable to publicly respond to any of this. Once the case is concluded, I'm sure we'll get answers and responses.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@aegis84 It's probably more like he doesn't want to, social media posts can be used against you in court and there's a saying that "If you're guilty, you need a lawyer, if you're innocent, you DEFINITELY need a lawyer", so either way he needs to be quiet

[@eeveemaster243]

Hey guys Yaknow that kraken strat? The one where you force opponents into weird positions? I'd say it has a niche here, but kraken can already sorta just splat rainmaker nine times out of ten, so-

[@dynamorolleruser]

DON’T RETREAT, SOLDIER!

[@LeShiny-mg1cd]

Its been 4 months... I've been gone from splatoon for a while (except the grand fest of course). Update, anyone? New proof from either side? Something?

[@johndelanie3649]

Guilty af lmao, certified squid diddler

[@flextape467]

​@@johndelanie3649thanks for update

[@enecofan888]

What new info has surfaced?​@@johndelanie3649

[@rbarua3368]

@@enecofan888If you sort comments by new and read recent replies you will see some comments by Six, @misspixisix, the woman involved in this case. She and Gem have agreed to an “Order of no Contact” as stated by the court.

[@timboneiod1780]

I was on the investigation, the evidence was manipulated by Six

[@redwidow1358]

Voice is definitely louder, so that's good progress, but it's a bit too loud, and the compression is a bit too strong.

[@theleader_TEN]

If anyone hasn’t noticed, Gem’s new mic sounds great!!!

[@fidovinnie]

You should retreat from the Splatoon community and the game

[@wilpalkia]

I wanna ask something about ranked, recently I been facing teams we here at least there are 2 members with a win streak higher than 7, while on my team there’s none with win streaks, also I’m at S+0. -1900, and for the past 8 days more or less that’s how 70-80% of my matches go, is it normal to go against other people with a high win streak? When I go against those teams is basically an instant lost match, we don’t even last 1 minute on it, btw I soto don’t get what you said about rainmaker, I got more confused lol

[@placeholder2937]

The new audio hurts my ears a little. It sounds kinda harsh and buzzy, like it’s louder than it really is. It is a bit clearer though

[@PRINTORO]

Don’t retreat from the allegations

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

“Nooooo haha please tell me (not a lawyer) about these allegations pleassseeeee haha” -The least subtle attempt from a KZbin commenter to get him to say something

[@RandomSmallfry]

@@HeDronHeDronHedron The big probelm here is that he's leaving us in the dark about this. He's a large KZbinr with over 70K subs, he needs to adress something like this, he's losts a-ton of subs to this, and when he did adress this situation, he balamed the comunity. We need more evidence for both sides, but the fact he's leaving us in the dark and balamed the community is not good at all. He has to adress this, it could help alot, expecialy with the entire situation.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@RandomSmallfry What could help a lot more is not getting in trouble in court. Since social media posts can be used against you in court, it makes sense hed be silent. You're not important enough to hear this information before his lawyer.

[@weirdpuppet326]

Have you considered that maybe he can’t for legal reasons?

[@L0wded_]

Hes waiting for his lawyer to respawn so that he can push

[@dianalynn4141]

Im so sorry I'm a butthead, you don't deserve your personal information to be leaked out like that.

[@Ushiriel]

Yoo Gem! wher u @ boy??

[@cultmecca]

He gone bruv she played the trump card on him and accused him of SA, can’t come back from that as a man

[@mushroomdude123]

I already didn’t like Shipshape RM since the path from the center to left check to goal is just a short straight line, but this makes it even worse imo. This feels like a huge oversight that the carrier can fall into a RM free zone and have no choice but to move forward.

[@JujuBennie]

damn Gem. I still don’t know if those allegations are true, but if they really aren’t, I hope you’re doing alright. i’m currently staying neutral in this situation. I’m gonna be honest, I never really gave a crap about who uploaded videos, I only enjoyed the videos themselves. but it’s been two months.. I miss watching your new splatoon content :((

[@qwertyqwertperson]

@@nastybean8027huh? Context?? Edit:just put him in cell block one bro 😭

[@JujuBennie]

@@nastybean8027 t’was a little uncalled for but aight

[@KrisSplatana]

Maybe you'll be able to see comments like these since you love making KZbin videos so much!

[@gabumon5]

THANKS FOR LOUDER AUDIO IT’S PERFECT NOW ! 🗣️🗣️🗣️🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@jonatanpineyro]

I've literally played games where I'm swimming straight to the 1st checkpoint goal and the "don't retreat" message is displaying all the way up to until I actually place the rainmaker on the checkpoint, game is DEFINITELY bugged

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

Innocent until proven guilty

[@ChargedBonsai98]

Exactly. This feels like the Chuggaaconroy situation all over again.

[@Aego384]

​@@ChargedBonsai98I'm out of the loop. What was the Chuggaconroy situation?

[@ChargedBonsai98]

@Aego384 obligatory "sorry for l8". Basically some women tried to take private dms where they had consensual discussions public. One was with a 14 year old while he was 19, but she pushed the sexual talk and he tried to deflect. Cringe, but nothing-burgers.

[@HeDronHeDronHedron]

@@ChargedBonsai98that might be the dumbest thing I’ve read this year. Who leaked these messages? Nvm I get it

[@skywalkerb6746]

He hasn't posted anything in 2 months... Does anyone know what's going on?

[@Freshsquid-k5h]

idk what happened but the general topic is from what i've heard. squid school is a no consent man

[@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932]

​@@Freshsquid-k5hThere were allegations made with zero evidence.

[@Aqua-Ash]

Your audio was loud. I remember you mentioning how you were experimenting with it. Comparing it to other videos on the platform, it is significantly louder. Try somewhere in-between your old volume and this one.

[@ridleyrolo]

Hi squid school, I hope you come back eventually. I love your videos and find I kinda just stopped watching splatoon content the second you stopped uploading.

[@Lisku_]

He stopped uploading because he got into pretty serious allegations about SA

[@EIZENSTEIN.]

believe victims, be open to both parties though until we get a full picture of what happened. so far, looks like gem kinda guilty... plus A-Minorrrrrr? 🙈🙈🙈

[@flextape467]

Huh?

[@Velos3]

Innocent until proven guilty, period

[@EIZENSTEIN.]

@@Velos3 nah he def did it with a minor. source: tiktok idk lol :DD

[@Velos3]

@@EIZENSTEIN. "idk" (while pretending we know everything better because the victim said so) - The twitter pilled gang

[@EIZENSTEIN.]

@@Velos3 ironic since on my alt i said "people are so twitter pilled" my honest take: be open minded, wait for gem's side to be shared, form your own opinions lol

[@bluemario5266]

I think he fled the country

[@yorkish]

I would really like to see you make a video on this channel addressing everything that's going on. A tweet on your personal Twitter is a weird way to respond. I really did enjoy your channel, I thought you offered a lot of interesting insight on the game. When I decided to become a brella one-trick your videos talking with pros were really helpful. You've always been quick to respond to "bad apples" in the community, most recent example that comes to mind is Jackpot. I'm just disappointed someone like you, who seems so committed to bettering the community as a whole, would do something this bad. Shame on you, Gem.

[@DerrickJohnson-oq3qk]

Can’t really do that when lawyers are likely advising him to stay silent until they make a defense…

[@cousinparty7266]

The response itself is also so weird, like if he was actually innocent then why does he “vehemently deny” the “false allegations” and think that Six is “defaming” him

[@DerrickJohnson-oq3qk]

@@cousinparty7266 genuine question: how would YOU word it?

[@yorkish]

@@cousinparty7266 Exactly. He also blames the people retweeting the posts. Just so weird

[@cousinparty7266]

@@DerrickJohnson-oq3qk I would use a lot less violent language and focus more on getting out my side of the story instead of… whatever he did

[@Deusd_]

I will NOT follow your dating advise bro

[@NaterSquib]

Where did this come from lol?

[@kyuki1806]

where was this in thw vid

[@squibbie_squibble]

​@@NaterSquib In short right after Gem posted this video there's been some really serious allegations against him of sa brought to light :(

[@Gabledbank]

I cant believe that he isn't really coming back. I don't know what happened, but he's not coming back.

[@johndelanie3649]

Well yeah that's what happens when you commit SA

[@SplatLab777]

Very interesting, thanks!