SRB2TB - Fortune Forge Zone showcase

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@jawoseye2902 4 ай бұрын

The reason why this map has such piss-poor performance is because in SRB2 rings are the heaviest entity, and this level likes to spam rings for obvious reasons

@teaoftraffic 2 ай бұрын

maybe casino stages in srb2 aren’t the best idea when it comes to performance…

@henryfreeman1256 4 ай бұрын

>"This game runs on the Doom engine, why does it run like shit" *cough* GZDooom *cough*

@waddledoo_eatsrocks 3 ай бұрын

nope, legacy doom engine

@henryfreeman1256 3 ай бұрын

@@waddledoo_eatsrocksI know SRB2 is on an unrecognizably-tweaked version of Doom Legacy, I was just providing GZDoom as an example of the idTech 1 engine being able to run like shit

@theraymunator 2 ай бұрын

@@henryfreeman1256To be fair that's mostly due to GZDoom using OpenGL and having a bunch of fancy graphic effects nobody cares about and Le No Chicken refusing to optimize the port

@RetroRampage 2 ай бұрын

I didn't have any issues with the performance, but that's also because I avoid software mode like the plague because opengl is just better. Software mode is kind of known to have horrible performance on any stage that's even remotely complicated or big.

@suroguner 4 ай бұрын

I've been complaining about ring eating lava ever since it got introduced. Never liked it. Fortunatly I have a script that puts lava on a ring free diet now.

@sintheemptyone8108 4 ай бұрын

I'm probably going to make a custom code implementation so staying in lava will drain ring count before killing the player instead of dealing damage and making them drop rings. Because otherwise it incentivizes people to abuse invincibility frames with impunity.

@CesarTorres61296 3 ай бұрын

@@sintheemptyone8108 So just like Heavy from Chaotixchars?

@emperortoho 4 ай бұрын

HERE IT COMES

@m1stq933 4 ай бұрын

Fire in the hole.

@PessoaNormal321 4 ай бұрын

Water on the Hill.

@christophertheMXfanboy 3 ай бұрын

Rock on the Ground.

@PessoaNormal321 3 ай бұрын

Air Detected.

@OpticTeadrop 4 ай бұрын

I've just finisehd your previous video and now THIS comes out, what a coincidence!

@Terumimi 2 ай бұрын

Just to note about the performance issues: My laptop can run SRB2 at about 240 fps for the most part. Some levels can chug the frame rate a bit, but it usually stays above 60. This level ran in the 10 fps range.

@Amgitstigma 3 ай бұрын

Yeah i played thus level and had a lot if the same criticisms, im glad to hear you say near the end it was extra frustrating because a lot of effort was put into it, i thought the same. Im glad youre putting your focus on levels like these.

@cowgaming7186 4 ай бұрын

nothing beats UNDERAGED GAMBLING

@Lionel10102006 4 ай бұрын

I care immensely if you're sick man!! Get well soon!

@Zippy_Zolton 4 ай бұрын

OH NO OH YES

@SMPandanic 2 ай бұрын

5:43 what the fuck is this level map?!!? There is a reason as to why the casino level in sonic adventure was small and linear.

@Dynafall 4 ай бұрын

This level doesn't seem like the evil kind of bad but more of a really cool level that got its legs cut off from the start.

@superplayerex2431 4 ай бұрын

I've played Fortune Forge Zone, and I honestly don't think it was really that bad. The level does have massive problems with navigation making no sense and rings being way too quick and easy to collect/the level being way too quick and easy to beat (which isn't the same in Sonic Adventure's Casinopolis, that one required you to play for quite a bit before getting enough rings to finish it), but besides that, it's got more problems that have to do with just the whole "casino"-shtick not being all that well thought out. I feel like a lot of the complaints towards the level thematic and the hazards comes from you simply not paying enough attention. I personally did not find the level to be difficult at all in it's use of lava hazards as well as bottomless pits, though, I will say that there's a bit too many of them. The problem with lava also gets rectified by the fact that this level spews shields at you like there's no tomorrow. Almost everywhere I went, there was a shield or two. Some are random, but I found most to be fixed. The only other massive problem I can weigh against Fortune Forge besides the aforementioned navigation problems is the fact that some sections of the level straight up grant you rings for free, no effort required. Early on in the level, you can cheese the slot machine or the floating rings to get enough to bust an electric shield nearby and that immediately grants you more than enough rings to beeline for the exit. Another particularly egregious section that I found had floating Eggman monitors over a bottomless pit with invincbility monitors sitting on the edges of the cliff when you enter the room. All of those monitors respawn and hitting Eggman monitors gives you free rings. It's extremely easy to abuse that room and get your ring counter maxed out in just a few minutes, and characters like Fang can use ranged attacks to just stand still and get free rings whilst pressing essentially only one button. That last thing I mentioned is possibly the source of your frustrations with the level itself having a lot of "unnecessary" content. It is good to have bonus content to sift through for a casino type level, but it is definitely not good when it can be completely ignored in favor of passively acquiring rings through unintended exploits or passive exploration. Rings are everywhere in Fortune Forge and I think that ultimately ends up working against it, causing the level to be kind of a mixed bucket overall. I still think that the level wasn't anywhere near as bad as you thought it was, but I definitely wouldn't call it good either. It's got massive issues that need a lot of ironing out. The overall concept is actually pretty good, though. I hope this level someday gets a sequel with better thought out level design and some balancing to it's mechanics and gimmicks. Letting it all go to waste would just be a shame.

@futureson122 4 ай бұрын

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH UR STATEMENT THAT LEVELS SUCKS!

@srb2er 4 ай бұрын

ngl when I first played this stage, I was so damn lost it was stupid I was at the lava ..."river current" (which I'm assuming requires the elemental shield) at the bottom, so I just ignored it later, I find a random lava river and use tails to fly down it turns out, I was back where I started (did not complete the stage lmao) at least their other stage was fun as hell

@Akabalthy 4 ай бұрын

not the wendy's illness...

@ContentWinner89 4 ай бұрын

Noooo not the Wendy's chocolate milk!

@teaoftraffic 4 ай бұрын

at least it’s better than casino forest from forces.

@teaoftraffic 2 ай бұрын

okay i just played it for myself I have a pretty beefy laptop, and EVEN IT STRUGGLES TO GET A STABLE FRAMERATE ON THIS LEVEL

@kirbymario2633 4 ай бұрын

Actually those cards have nothing to do with the items, it’s based on ring count, you can use this to get an easy ring attraction shield

@sonicloverlol2 3 ай бұрын

What is this mod

@cilcxx 4 ай бұрын

Oh shit sorry abt the milk, my bad

@pichus_play8674 4 ай бұрын

Skill issue or Sink issue

@theraymunator 2 ай бұрын

It feels like Fortune Forge was designed taking into account criticisms people have about Casinopolis, but kinda overdid it in the end. Most people don't like Casinopolis because you're essentially doing the same thing over and over again, and the stage itself breaks the flow of Sonic games by just existing. Fortune Forge, on the other hand, is just filled with pointless shit that's just there as a nod to the SRB2 community, and the stage could have afforded to be more like Casinopolis due to the format of the OLDC.