Refining More Gold Catches

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@jayhac3803
@jayhac3803 2 жыл бұрын
You are the reason that I'm a hobby refiner now. I found your videos several years ago and it took me time to get to where I could do this as a hobby. But you have encouraged and inspired me to do what I need to do to have a real financial control on my future
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Gold can really save us
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge 2 жыл бұрын
Audio and video were very good but this particular content presented over the top. Sreetips wife brings him gold-seriously! The inquartation principal was well defined and played out well, as well, this viewers observation of the technique has left in him a desire to practice. If I only had someone to bring me some gold. I particularly enjoyed the time lapse of the gold sponge being finely divided into aqua regia. The emphasis of Incremental Dosing Nitric into the boiling aqua regia solution was amazing to view because the time lapse captured perfectly the bits of gold imploding without exploding the solution into a boil over. Removal of the SMB from the high purity gold during the distilled water rinses and Hydrochloric acid rinses presented a very clear solution. The second refining was even clearer. I really liked the end result created by pouring the molten gold under flame into the graphite mold. These presentations are clear and concise and very much appreciated. ✌️♥️👍
@zackc3767
@zackc3767 2 жыл бұрын
When sreetips said "debts" I hear he's finally switched to buying distilled water and stump out by the pallet load. :D
@71723
@71723 2 жыл бұрын
And possibly 55 gallon drums of nitric and hydrochloric acid!
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
55gal drums of nitric would damn sure put you in debt lol
@Heymrk
@Heymrk 2 жыл бұрын
He should really get a distiller. They're not that expensive.
@cooldaddyfunk
@cooldaddyfunk 2 жыл бұрын
We all know sreetips distills his own water, c'mon! 😎
@TeslaFactory
@TeslaFactory 2 жыл бұрын
Debt might as well mean investment then
@dk7863
@dk7863 2 жыл бұрын
I like the extra text notes, great touch!
@glass1258
@glass1258 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching the spoons disappear into molten alloy. It’s one of my favorite parts of watching these videos.
@JakHart
@JakHart 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's so satisfying. I could totally watch an ASMR video of spoons being added to molten metal the way Sreetips does it.
@BeezyKing99
@BeezyKing99 2 жыл бұрын
same, absolutely fascinating seeing it happen... come to think of it, we'd have eaten with silver utensils at one point in our lives.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist 2 жыл бұрын
Funny. It's cool, but it kills me to see works that were so carefully crafted get destroyed as an alloy. I'd prefer to see him buy/use silver bullion or pellets rather than silverware. But guess it's just the cycle of life.
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of watching this. I aspire to handle the same volume in such a nice set up. For now it's just ewaste but one day with a little luck I'll be pouring ounces lol
@bryanworth8292
@bryanworth8292 2 жыл бұрын
You know Sreetips , when I was a kid , my dream job was to be a Locomotive Engineer . Now I realise that I really wanted to be a Precious Metals Refiner all along thanks to you . I've seen you refine gold in a number of videos now and I never seem to tire of watching you ply your trade . Thanks much .
@katieandkevinsears7724
@katieandkevinsears7724 2 жыл бұрын
I am a locomotive engineer. I think Sreetips has a better gig than me. Thank you for changing your dreams.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I was an Engineer in the Navy. Main Propulsion and supporting equipment. I had the privilege to operate a steam powered turbine that produced 35,000 shaft horse power. Doing emergency Full-Back from full power forward was my favorite exercise. Watching the 1200 psi main steam pressure as I closed the ahead throttle valve and simultaneously opened the astern throttle valve was quite exhilarating. It wasn’t my dream job and I kind of fell into it by default because I’ve always been kind of mechanically inclined. But I’m glad that I did it. For myself, for my family, and for my country.
@heidimunk4938
@heidimunk4938 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for all the explanations in this video! I haven't binge-watched enough videos yet to get all the answers you provided in the first 15 minutes of the video. Thank you, Thank you, Thank you!
@ProspectorTripp
@ProspectorTripp 2 жыл бұрын
That was quite a pile of beautiful golden mud! Really nice work! Thanks Sreetips ✌️PT
@Antonowskyfly
@Antonowskyfly 2 жыл бұрын
Ausome production! Gold catches refined to gold ca-CHING!!! Clear, concise, informative. Thank you Sir!👍👍
@Alsacien
@Alsacien 2 жыл бұрын
Your wife is a gem, I can't believe how much gold she manages to find and bring home! I'd love to get an idea of your cost average for the sourced gold if that's something you're willing to share, assuming you have the courage to keep track of all those individual small purchases since that would include weighing them and assessing their purity.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I have bag upon bag, each with small quantities of karat gold that she finds every day. They keep coming relentlessly. Sometimes I feel overwhelmed, but in a good way.
@THR33STEP
@THR33STEP 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a fantastic problem to have!!
@cooldaddyfunk
@cooldaddyfunk 2 жыл бұрын
@@THR33STEP haha I was about to say the same thing! What an awesome wife.
@Alsacien
@Alsacien 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips It sounds like perfect teamwork. Two different activities that you each enjoy doing combining into something that helps the family now and for the future. I love it.
@kevinmulligan9055
@kevinmulligan9055 2 жыл бұрын
Watching your videos over the years. It's clear your knowledge has vastly increased as has your confidence in your actions. From apprentice to journeyman to master it's clear for all to see.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Guess I can’t see it. In my mind, I’m still just an advanced beginner.
@vinnycordeiro
@vinnycordeiro 2 жыл бұрын
That was a really beautiful pour!
@josephcormier5974
@josephcormier5974 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video great content it's always interesting to view one of your video I see something that I have missed before five stars my friend thank you for sharing
@tabbyxoxoxoxox23
@tabbyxoxoxoxox23 2 жыл бұрын
Man these gold pulls are some of the best videos on the web. Sreetips for life. Long time fan! Keep this stuff up.
@patrickaussieMilartry
@patrickaussieMilartry 2 жыл бұрын
Great show again. Love it keep them coming.
@lostandlost519
@lostandlost519 2 жыл бұрын
It's so cool watching how you turn scrap jewelry into a gorgeous gold bar.
@Zebraboy19
@Zebraboy19 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched several of your videos and I have to tell you I am very fascinated by the content in them. I never knew so much went into gold pieces. It is very interesting. Thank you for making the videos that you do. 🧡🧡🧡
@robwinter4173
@robwinter4173 2 жыл бұрын
I always enjoy your channel,thanks,Rob.
@TroubledOnePaydirt
@TroubledOnePaydirt 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so fascinated by these processes and reactions, that I watched this whole video almost before I realized I had already watched this one. Lol… endless entertainment value here. A literal gold mine, if you will, of binge watching content. 💪💪
@RyanEglitis
@RyanEglitis 2 жыл бұрын
Good explainations of the whole process and the reasoning behind the steps in this video.
@markwoodger2
@markwoodger2 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sreetips, I consider every day a school day, and what a lesson, thanks for passing on your experience.
@shaneyearby4438
@shaneyearby4438 2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoy the multiple refining. Always turns out a better end product. Can't wait to see you try another big bar.
@jamisontaylor878
@jamisontaylor878 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always!!! Thank you !!!! I liked when you added the water to the acid in the nitric acid boil lol just for those paying attention and learning
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Acid to water. Good rule of thumb. But I would never do it with sulfuric.
@PaulDinwiddie
@PaulDinwiddie Жыл бұрын
Well worth the time to watch! I am looking forward to getting some equipment and getting started on this new ADVENTURE!
@dougdeming3115
@dougdeming3115 2 жыл бұрын
My Three year old son is concerned about the "owie" on your finger when you pulled the bar out of the cooling water. We love Watching the recovery and refining process together.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
That was a silver nitrate stain
@billasegan3261
@billasegan3261 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT STUFF SREETIPS. ALWAYS AMAZES ME WHEN I SEE THE END RESULT. )BRIGHT)
@showmethegold2104
@showmethegold2104 2 жыл бұрын
Once again very nice Kevin. I have a few totes of jewelry I need to process. Daunting
@linn1934
@linn1934 2 жыл бұрын
I never get tired of watching this.
@mikesabo5583
@mikesabo5583 2 жыл бұрын
Master class. Well done Streetips!
@Jibrannajam92
@Jibrannajam92 2 жыл бұрын
Loved it! Clean and detailed! Beaufiul gold job sir! ❤️
@titanicfilmsbymark
@titanicfilmsbymark 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Sreetips. Great explanation.
@martinmilligan4521
@martinmilligan4521 9 ай бұрын
Keep it up fella , love your vids , you explain everything very well ,,
@sergeantcraphead
@sergeantcraphead 2 жыл бұрын
Damn aye nice video. Be blessed Mr sreetips. Thank for sharing bro
@julianalcorso5703
@julianalcorso5703 2 жыл бұрын
A small tip. Instead of using distilled water, I have 3 X 10-inch filter housings in series with activated charcoal filters in each housing. This removes ALL the chlorine and removes the need for distilled water. Extremely cost-effective and I'm still getting 5 9's fine gold and silver.
@jimwednt1229
@jimwednt1229 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that's incredibly clean gold that's was very informative and interesting ✨️ thank you for sharing the video. 👏👏👏👍👍
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. You made a great point about inquartation as far as having to dissolve the silver being something you'd have to do anyway if you were going to refine it. If you didn't want to crystalize it out in a silver cell, I'd imagine you could just as easily use the cemented out silver to inquart with more or less just continuously re-using the same silver.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
That’s not recommended, here’s why; palladium is soluble in nitric acid, the only one of the six sister metals in the platinum group that is. Because of this, using the cement silver over and over to inquart the gold would tend to cause the palladium to build up in the cement silver. Karat gold, especially white gold, is a known carrier of platinum group metals, especially palladium. The Palladium will cement out on the copper with the silver and accumulate in the cement silver. When we finally do decide to run it through the silver cell, then the high concentration of palladium in the cement silver will tend to contaminate the silver cell electrolyte. I can tell when I have palladium in my silver cell because the electrolyte will turn green. If allowed to get high enough concentration then it could begin to plate out with the silver and contaminate the pure silver crystal. The main problem here is not contaminated silver, but rather, palladium is 100 times more valuable than silver.
@AndyGraceMedia
@AndyGraceMedia 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Excellent explanation.
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Cool. I learned something. Thanks for the explanation.
@sebastiandadeby7997
@sebastiandadeby7997 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Do you recover the palladium in any way? If yes, how?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, I have several palladium refining videos posted to my channel. But it’s nothing like gold and silver. Those are like a cake recipe compared to refining the platinum group metals. Much more chemistry. Much more involved. Much more difficult. And dangerous.
@harryzero1566
@harryzero1566 2 жыл бұрын
Don't you just love it when he includes us and says "melt a nice bar of gold for ourselves"?
@paulm2380
@paulm2380 2 жыл бұрын
I am wondering if during the inqortation process does the liquid metal "feel" thick or heavy? Like stirring pudding. Thank you for the video.
@MrPetrion
@MrPetrion 2 жыл бұрын
like mercury
@jimwednt1229
@jimwednt1229 2 жыл бұрын
Good question 🤔
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
It’s about like pancake batter.
@ramih2314
@ramih2314 2 жыл бұрын
Dam man just love your work so meticulous good job.
@darkhorsegarage9623
@darkhorsegarage9623 2 жыл бұрын
I tip my phone when you pour off the nitric. Haha.
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
That's a beautiful bar 👌
@adws5696
@adws5696 5 ай бұрын
I think this is THE Sreetips Gold refining video. It has the important explanations and ALL of the small details in one video 🙌🏻 Everything
@DR_SOLO
@DR_SOLO 2 жыл бұрын
It's kind of mind boggling and seems to be such an oddity to see that sterling silver fork and spoon once you apply the heat start to melt like it was a plastic fork or a plastic spoon. Has the heat spreads throughout the metal and just almost instantly liquefies it that's a real trip
@DonnyHooterHoot
@DonnyHooterHoot 2 жыл бұрын
I sit and wonder how many times any one bit of gold has been refined and reworked in its time since being mined/found. Great video! Some of the atoms of gold you have may be from the first ever mined/found.
@timtoolman4125
@timtoolman4125 2 жыл бұрын
Scorpions, Blackout. You give me all I need (from latches)
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
It could have been worn around the neck of cleopatra. Gold is that long lasting. It’s here for ever.
@ricktourville3458
@ricktourville3458 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
@anthonywaite
@anthonywaite 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful pour love the videos as always buddy thank for the knowledge it never hurts to watch it
@MakingUsThink
@MakingUsThink 2 жыл бұрын
Liquid Gold to powder Gold to solid gold. Not sure if I fully understand the process. My question is about lava that comes from volcano. Could any process pull gold from lava slags?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Possibly
@fc7427
@fc7427 2 жыл бұрын
Sreetips you must be worth a fortune , respect brother you are very intelligent guy and I really appreciate the way you show your craft and also teach 🤔 , keep her lit fella!!! 👍👍
@EthanMcPhoenix
@EthanMcPhoenix 2 жыл бұрын
39:53 What a beautiful gold sponge !
@ImanGoldRecovery
@ImanGoldRecovery 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks my big bro for shairing videoss🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹👍
@IanTheWoodchuck
@IanTheWoodchuck 2 жыл бұрын
HEYYY! My question about using pure silver made it into a video! I feel special! In all seriousness, I truly appreciate the clarification. Since I do not refine myself, I watch purely for the amusement, metallurgy, and chemistry aspects, so the financial nuances aren't as obvious to me.
@bosslady6758
@bosslady6758 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and your time
@ohraa1
@ohraa1 2 жыл бұрын
Love the head cam it’s fascinating to see you do it in first person
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe I’ll do some more footage like that.
@ohraa1
@ohraa1 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips it’s like the viewer is actually doing them. It also shows how you keep your attention on everything not just the reaction in front of you and that you’re very cautious about your surroundings.
@michaeldenison7339
@michaeldenison7339 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason to use sterling vs pure silver is that it is a better indicator that there is still contaminates in the gold with the blue of the copper in solution.
@themakerken3453
@themakerken3453 2 жыл бұрын
I personally think why acquire more resources if you have them? Perhaps throw together a pure silver/copper alloy to inquart with? I honestly have no idea, just kinda throwing it out there
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Using pure silver to inquart makes no sense. I’d have to run it back through the silver cell again. Step in the wrong direction from the refiners point of view.
@badenpobjoy8274
@badenpobjoy8274 2 жыл бұрын
ALWAYS been curious about the enquartation process and ratios ... THANKYOU.
@arnedalbakk6315
@arnedalbakk6315 2 жыл бұрын
My second time seeing this Great clip.. You better coming soon whit some New clip Mr sreetips.😊 Somtime i think of thing you have say in the past. And your best words i think... Killing two birds whit one stone😂. Never heard the Word before, and i love that you mixing fun stuff in your clip Sir🌹. Have a Nice weekend and god bless both of you. Arne
@mhughes1160
@mhughes1160 2 жыл бұрын
Dry dull and boring. Loved every minute. LoL 😂 Another great video thanks
@gnomespace
@gnomespace 9 ай бұрын
New camera? Liked seeing their location and you working around them. The 'under-shot' of the beaker was cool.
@tonywharton5220
@tonywharton5220 2 жыл бұрын
I love the way the silver vanishes into the gold like a magic trick or a scene from Terminator 2!
@gossman75
@gossman75 2 жыл бұрын
You have a lot more patience than I have. Going through all those catches would take a long time! Wow!
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Taking out the large pieces only took about ten minutes
@roberttindale9012
@roberttindale9012 2 жыл бұрын
That was great to watch, thank you. ;^)
@andrewrossi7164
@andrewrossi7164 2 жыл бұрын
Great video sreetips. Question for you sir, if you were to acquire contacts from breakers & electrical switches would you be able to refine them the same way you do the gold & silver?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
That depends on what other metals are present. Some have tungsten - so I’ve been told. I’ve never done contacts. But tungsten is below copper in the reactivity series so that would need to be taken into consideration. Probably do silver chloride conversion if tungsten is present.
@andrewrossi7164
@andrewrossi7164 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thanks for you response sreetips, I am a huge fan of your channel. I was asking because I scrap as a side job & save all the contacts I come across while breaking stuff down & have no clue what to do with them, that was kind of why I was asking you if it was more difficult to refine them.
@TanteLaurana
@TanteLaurana 2 жыл бұрын
commenting for the algorithm gods. this is so relaxing to watch, i never get tired.
@brucewright5061
@brucewright5061 2 жыл бұрын
You found the total amount of gold and multiplied by 3 for the enquartation process. You forgot that one of those three is already in the 12k gold. You only need to add 2x the gold to get to 1/4 by weight gold.
@AndyGraceMedia
@AndyGraceMedia 2 жыл бұрын
He's "inquintating" it.
@michaelbrumfitt
@michaelbrumfitt 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyGraceMedia he’s inqaurting it
@glass1258
@glass1258 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure he knows what he’s doing .
@michaelbrumfitt
@michaelbrumfitt 2 жыл бұрын
@@glass1258 no one said he didn’t
@brucewright5061
@brucewright5061 2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyGraceMedia Indeed
@samirfarsane2379
@samirfarsane2379 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great videos! I really wish you could finish your videos with an XRF Analyser test to get the final buttons' and bars' purity and metal composition. I know they're super expensive but the info is priceless for your videos. It will also consolidate your statements when you say pure gold.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
The big refiner uses to XRF to determine my pay out.
@catch22frubert
@catch22frubert 2 жыл бұрын
There you go. Clasp! I knew it had a proper term, and it was on the tip of my tongue, but I just couldn't think of the exact word to save my life.
@petterandersson7429
@petterandersson7429 2 жыл бұрын
110 grams gold + 110 grams copper equals 220 grams 12k. You only needed 220 grams silver to enquart.
@frantiseklaluch6605
@frantiseklaluch6605 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sir, good to see, that inquintation (4.8K - 20 %) instead of inquartation (6K - 25 %) is no big deal, just more silver and nitric used. The gold was in fact about 13.2 K so there is some interval to inquartation that is a bit "forgiving". Good to know. Coud be used in refining when the gold content is not known for sure. Very usefull piece of experience. Thank you.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Also, I only added 311g of silver, not the full 330g that I had calculated.
@clintonmoore5335
@clintonmoore5335 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder, would it be possible to capture the NO2 and bubble it through distilled water to recapture some of the nitric acid thus making refining a little cheaper in that regard?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
It could be done. But apparatus is cumbersome and the nitric as yield would be very weak.
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx Жыл бұрын
Quite a hobby. Watching the videos is better than any magic act. Pulling out the various base metals while leaving behind the pure gold in solution. It makes me want to carry a bottle of Stannis solution while hiking. Have you ever tested the water at Yellowstone?
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Not so far. Stannous chloride is very sensitive, but not that sensitive.
@Michael-rg7mx
@Michael-rg7mx Жыл бұрын
@sreetips I could see you with a 20 foot pole and a piece of filter.
@mattjirgal1676
@mattjirgal1676 2 жыл бұрын
While you're mixing the molten silver/gold alloy, what kind of consistency/thickness does it feel like? I'm guessing simular to pancake batter?
@MrPetrion
@MrPetrion 2 жыл бұрын
like mercury
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a good comparison.
@christian.dittmann
@christian.dittmann 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for the outstanding content as usual! why do you burn the silverware on the hot diluted nitric boil glass container? that's new...
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
To rid it of any combustibles
@justinneal2960
@justinneal2960 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@panteleon1
@panteleon1 2 жыл бұрын
that dirt in the aqua regia filter is it traces of lead? it should make sense since lead is used in welding
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Most jewelers know not to use lead solder in jewelry. They use solder chips made of gold with a solder paste that also contains gold. But every now and then someone will try to use soft solder that contains tin and lead to repair a piece of broken jewelry. I’ve been promising to do it a long time, but I’ll get a video out that demonstrates lead removal by adding some lead to the gold then refining it to high purity. Lead, even in trace amounts, ruins the malleability and ductility of the gold. It must be removed before the jeweler can work with it. Adding sulfuric acid and filtering out the lead as lead sulfate will remove 100% of the lead. That’s why I add sulfuric every time I dissolve the gold no matter if I suspect it or not.
@jackfntwist
@jackfntwist 2 жыл бұрын
You're a pro at this. Love it. Is there any way to test for lead after the filter phase? I always wonder how well the sulfuric acid works and if it's detectable.
@disgruntledtoons
@disgruntledtoons 2 жыл бұрын
Some of us in the peanut gallery hypothesize that if you are going to do a double refinement of the gold, you can record how much nitric acid is used in the first dissolution, and then see if the same amount or less is required at the second dissolution.
@apveening
@apveening 2 жыл бұрын
Same with SMB.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Correct, and I do use the first dose to gauge how much to use on the second.
@Team_Monty
@Team_Monty Жыл бұрын
Just curious. Why don't you stir with a glass rod when you precipitate with smb? I noticed it sits on top of the ice for a while.
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Glass rod scratches the inside walls of my beakers. It’s easier to give it a swirl.
@sirridok
@sirridok Жыл бұрын
What are your intentions for the silver cell if the cemented is 3 9's fine, you're saying the cell produces 100% silver? Pretty cool..im going to look into making a cell for my colloidal silver rods
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Cement silver can be close to three nines. But the only to ensure it is to run it through the silver cell.
@TouchMe82
@TouchMe82 2 жыл бұрын
you answered a lot of questions for me today but 1. Why is the silver in the silver jar burned first?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
To burn off oil or grease that may be present. Prevent an oily residue from building up in the silver jar.
@TouchMe82
@TouchMe82 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips makes perfect sense thank you
@oyekunlesalami7482
@oyekunlesalami7482 2 жыл бұрын
Hello sreetips! Thanks for your educative videos! Are there no silver constants for 12k Gold just as you have for 10k, 14k and 18k? Which would help to avoid the error!? It's always nice watching your video! You have awoken the chemist in Me! Studied chemistry in my undergraduate, now working as a Product Marketing specialist 😁 . Can you recommend a starting capital to start refining Gold? Especially setup cost ?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I could calculate a constant for 12k, but since it’s not really used in karat jewelry I’ve never done it. I started with a few beakers from eBay in my back yard twelve years ago. But quickly realized that there’s no way to safely do these reactions without a fume hood.
@oyekunlesalami7482
@oyekunlesalami7482 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@PHUCKyoutube689
@PHUCKyoutube689 Жыл бұрын
With 12k you would add the an equal amount of sterling to 12k to get a 25% or 6 K alloy. Example 100 grams of 12k has 50 grams of gold and 50 grams of base metal so you would just add 100 grams of sterling making the total alloy weight 200 grams, 50 of which would be gold.
@Skyliner04s
@Skyliner04s 2 жыл бұрын
For the guys who are curious: adding 330g of silver created a 4.8k gold. This error is very much insignificant. sreetips just had to use a little more nitric acid in the end.
@apveening
@apveening 2 жыл бұрын
He got lucky, there was no colloidal gold (at least not in visible amounts).
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Strongly agree! After realizing the blunder I kept waiting for the gold to crumble in the nitric boils. But it never happened. What saved me is the higher than calculated amount of gold in the karat scrap that I was refining.
@debkeyworth8429
@debkeyworth8429 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating to watch !
@johnharmer394
@johnharmer394 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sreetips, been following your fascinating videos on gold recovery. Just wanted to know is there any method for recovering gold from gold plated taps and bathroom fixtures?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Gold plated material is best processed in a sulfuric acid stripping cell
@johnharmer394
@johnharmer394 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips taps soap dish, sink covers, towel rings, quite a few DORF Manor House Gold, Apparently 24k.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of gold on these items will be very thin, almost nothing.
@StuckinMO
@StuckinMO 2 жыл бұрын
Sreetips is the cowboy shooting at gold’s feet to make it dance!
@TheHayruss
@TheHayruss 2 жыл бұрын
If you could make the inquarted shot pieces very small would that drastically speed up the refining process? Possibly pour it into a jewlers rod and then use a carbide burr device to grind the rod into very small pieces? Also how much effort would it take to recycle the red nitric gas condense and bubble through water to turn back into nitric acid?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I could pass the inquarted gold through a roller and flatten them out very thin. I could set up an apparatus to direct the fumes into a bubbler and make weak nitric acid. But both of these would add another step to an already lengthy process. I’d rather let the chemicals do the work for me.
@JakHart
@JakHart 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you burn the silver for the silver jar? Is it to add carbon to the solution?
@DFPercush
@DFPercush 2 жыл бұрын
Just a guess, but probably to break down any oils, soap or other organics that might be on the surface.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
To burn oil or grease or other combustible junk off before it gets dissolved. Prevents an oily residue from accumulating in the silver jar.
@JakHart
@JakHart 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips ah, that makes sense. Thank you.
@budgiebreder
@budgiebreder 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed you answer my silver cell silver question again in this for people that missed the comment a while back :) thanks mate! When you did the error with calculations how did that affect it? Did you add too much or too little silver?
@apveening
@apveening 2 жыл бұрын
He added too much silver (about 100 g), bringing the alloy to about 20% gold instead of the 25% he wanted (and normally uses). He still was within the margins of error for inquartation (gold purity was a bit better than expected and he added a little less silver than wrongly calculated), so I'd say 22% or 23% as also evidenced by the lack of (visible) colloidal gold. It did not affect the end result.
@budgiebreder
@budgiebreder 2 жыл бұрын
@@apveening so all in all it was still ok :)
@apveening
@apveening 2 жыл бұрын
@@budgiebreder Yup.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I added too much silver. I should have reduced the amount of silver by the amount of non-gold metal in the karat scrap. What saved me: I didn’t add the entire 330g of sterling (I only added 311g of sterling). And I interpolated the karat scrap as 12k (or 50%) when in fact it was higher. These two factors saved me from my careless blunder. I got lucky. The problem could have been thus: adding too much silver will cause the inquarted gold to crumble into a powder, or even worse, form colloidal gold. This would make separating the silver from the gold after the nitric boils a nightmare because I’d have to wait for up to a day after each nitric boil for the gold powder to settle, then carefully draw off the silver solution to get it from the settled gold. I’d have to do this after each nitric boil. I’ve had it happen in the past. I’ve found that it’s better to collect as much of the gold powder after the first nitric boil in a filter paper. Then place in a crucible and melt it into a big button. Test it with acid to determine karat (because it will still contain much silver) and then start all over.
@budgiebreder
@budgiebreder 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips yeah you definitely got lucky on this occasion! But thats kind of a good thing coz you shouldn’t make the same error anytime soon after you make them this time :) aka you learn from it and bonus taught me something!
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 2 жыл бұрын
27👍's up thanks for sharing
@scotthultin7769
@scotthultin7769 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of catching the smoke and limited condensed back to it the liquid and see if there's any gold in it
@Robin-q6w
@Robin-q6w 10 ай бұрын
About how much time or what variable of slowly adding nitric did you consider before adding another 1 sip of nitric to fully dissolve it?
@sreetips
@sreetips 10 ай бұрын
I can dissolve an ounce of pure gold powder in about 150ml hydrochloric acid and 15ml to 18ml nitric acid. With lots of heat.
@Robin-q6w
@Robin-q6w 10 ай бұрын
@@sreetips sweetness like pine tree crisp smell on a winter morning
@MrRammsteinforlife
@MrRammsteinforlife 2 жыл бұрын
I had a random thought the other day. Are the melt dishes acid proof? When you inquart or even just do your melts, there must be traces of metals left over (as you showed in this from a previous inquart). But could you use the acids to clean up the dishes down the line? Though asking this, I probably should watch your recent video on it 😅
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
The melt dishes are fused silica. Soaking them will cause them to disintegrate.
@Heathenheart1979
@Heathenheart1979 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that Sreetips made a video not so long ago about it. Try searching among his videos.
@MrRammsteinforlife
@MrRammsteinforlife 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips watched the video. Good to know. I'm just glad that my question was still a valid one to ask, and didn't make me look like a dummy haha.
@toynetix7081
@toynetix7081 2 жыл бұрын
Hi there!! Nice video as always! What do u use to protect yourself from the fumes ? And when you do thr filtering process, whats the reason for the hose connection to the glass container? Regards :)
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Fume hood, and vacuum pump
@williefleete
@williefleete 2 жыл бұрын
I think you mentioned that tap water for the ice is fine as it’s a chloride anyway, did someone change your mind or did you suspect maybe other impurities in tap water affecting things
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Tap water ice is just fine. Tap water contaminants are measured in parts per million. Not enough to report in a precious metals assay. But, there was an uproar about not using distilled water for the ice. So to appease concern, I now use distilled water for ice. Even though it’s not necessary. But it’s easy and not expensive.
@ChrisCVW
@ChrisCVW 2 жыл бұрын
So the multiple dilute nitric boils are a boil-over and temperature management measure? Would it be conceivable in a sufficiently large and rugged vessel to just take your estimated yield and calculate a sufficient volume of concentrated acid and do it in one hit or is there some other factor I’m not thinking of? Potential explosive pressures? The acid needs to be dilute to be effective? Just the vessel would need to be ludicrously large and rugged? Allowance for unknown metals in your carat alloy? Something else?
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
No, it’s better and more efficient to use small amounts of hot dilute nitric. Why? Because as the nitric dissolves the silver and base metals, it loses potency and stops penetrating. At that point it’s best to pour off the saturated silver solution and add fresh nitric because fresh dilute nitric has more punch to continue to penetrate the inquarted gold. Using a whole stoichiometric charge of dilute nitric would not change this by much. I’d end up using a great deal more nitric than I would if I use many small nitric as opposed to fewer large nitric boils.
@ChrisCVW
@ChrisCVW 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips oh that is interesting. Thank you for replying.
@rewalston
@rewalston 2 жыл бұрын
@Sreetips I know that you don't do a lot of work with foils and pins, but if I were to take them and inquart them with burnt copper, would using dilute HCL and a little H2SO4 do the same thing as nitric? I am unable to get any kind of nitrates to make my own nitric, and buying it from the supplier isn't cost effective for me.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Rusty, I’ve never tried anything like that. I don’t know what would happen.
@rewalston
@rewalston 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thanks, I'll have to try it sometime
@moviezaftermidnight6348
@moviezaftermidnight6348 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried using a neodymium magnet out of a hard drive to pull up the springs from the molten gold & silver? Like a Mystery Box, you could sell your "exceptional" pieces in the melt pile instead of melting them... calculate how much they are each worth in gold & base on average.. if it doesn't work you have nothing to lose.. Also a couple 2x4 sticks of wood, a piece of drywall and some pink insulation or something could build a small box around the fan box to almost eliminate the noise.. just some thoughts...
@BadPete81
@BadPete81 2 жыл бұрын
Nice setup with the silver
@VerucaPumpkin
@VerucaPumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
do you need to clean the crucible to do this? I ask because everything is so sterile and kept separate but it appears to me maybe you use the same crucible which had all the springs waste etc. in it? curious thanks.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll use a different crucible to melt the pure gold.
@andyman1032
@andyman1032 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Sreetips i have been a subscriber to your channel for a long time im from the uk is there anything i can use to refine gold i can get from uk chemicals as i think most of the acids are regulated here
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
I can inquart with silver, part with sulfuric (drain cleaner), then refine the gold with muriatic (hydrochloric) acid and grocery store hydrogen peroxide.
@robertdrake9991
@robertdrake9991 2 жыл бұрын
Dose that liquid before you add the stump out have a physical noticeable weight to it
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, it weighs much more than the same volume of lain water.
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