Melting Cement Silver With Propane Furnace

[@zackc3767]

You're not a player until you got a five gallon bucket of cement silver.

[@darthsilversith667]

Right!?! That was my thought as well lol

[@max3d_0ut]

Humblest biggest flex I've seen.

[@christopherfoote1284]

And How!

[@PeroXepatonio]

It's been the first time I saw your face. After all this time it is nice to put a face into this distinctive voice. Great content as always.

[@TroubledOnePaydirt]

After a 14 hour day stacking lumber and concrete at Home Depot, nothing is as relaxing as a Sreetips video I haven’t seen yet. 💪🥳

[@megansmith1382]

I can never get enough of how awesome the pure silver crystal looks 😍 its gorgeous!!!

[@MmeHyraelle]

Find his ebay store! Maybe there still are some!

[@scrappydoo7887]

Beautiful isn't it 👍

[@megansmith1382]

Seriously great video. It always shocks me to see how much you get outta your melts. You said that you got about 1/3 of that melted and that ends up to be somewhere around 5pounds of silver 😱 whoa! It is always mind blowing and at the same time super satisfying to watch, I hope you keep on keeping on and you continue to share your work with us. I absolute love it 😀 😍

[@krsulock]

You’re undoubtedly got the best setup and tools for chemical refining and small scale smelting! 🙌🏻

[@nousername2986]

I love watching your videos. I dont plan on doing what you do at all but i enjoy learning and you do a great job teaching. I like to watch your videos when im putting my one year old to sleep for the night. After a half hour he is hout and i get to watch your videos in relative peace. thank you sir for the content i truly enjoy it. Keep up the good work

[@andybaldman]

Devil Forge really needs to sponsor you, man. Their cost of one furnace will sell 100 of them.

[@RingMasterRay]

The great thing about the propaine furnice is the large amounts you can melt at a time. Nice job Shipmate

[@BeMoreGooderPeople]

I just really want to see all that cement melted and the bar it would produce come to completion. Wow! That would be a beauty.

[@josephpecoul6532]

Well that's what I have been waiting for a 2nd round of Silver melts with the new setup thanks Sreetips very cool.

[@shaneyork300]

That furnace is great in so many ways! One of the best is probably that it affords you more time to work with the gold refining. Have a Great Day My Friend!

[@Reasonist]

Holy hell that is one epic bucket. 🍻 😎👌🏼👌🏼

[@tracybowling97]

I thought so too. I wonder and really want to know how much it weighs.

[@three6ohchris]

I was thinking the exact same thing. Very impressive.

[@bfd1565]

Yesterday I checked to see if you posted any videos lately. I'm looking forward in watching you process the anode baskets. I agree it's nerve racking when melting silver. Especially when adding the dry to what's already molten. I'm always waiting for some kind of puff.

[@sreetips]

Me too, if you notice I added a very small portion to the first melt because I didn’t know what to expect.

[@prestontucker6171]

So interesting how the little copper impurities end up dominating the color when it's cooled in the bucket!

[@sreetips]

Agree

[@richardedwards3098]

heya steetips! you need to put something on your kao wool lining in your melter/smelter to keep fibers from becoming airborne. you need to put a hardener on it!

[@sreetips]

Roger that

[@kuznetsovsu]

Nice job! please continue putting learning videos on your channel. Really good stuff!

[@heliarche]

Could the cell be pulling chrome or another additive out of the stainless steel bowl and that's why you're getting the discoloration?

[@sreetips]

I’ve used the same bowls for many years. I added some cement silver powder to the anode basket and it went south from there. Clogged the filter and amps dropped off, slow crystal growth

[@excitedbox5705]

Have you considered adding a funnel feeder to the furnace? By suspending a steel pipe over the crucible with a flared top you could quickly feed material through the hole in the lid. With the right stand you could quickly move the feeder into place and dump a few scoops in the top and then remove the feeder again.

[@bitsofeverything8385]

MIght aswell get a furnace where the metal falls into the bucket directly while melting down.

[@sreetips]

Neat innovation, but the scoop works well

[@bitsofeverything8385]

happen to have found this in the while kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnbdi2V4pZKkftE

[@tracybowling97]

I use your videos to fall asleep to. They are calming and interesting and magic!

[@sreetips]

Excellent! Thank you

[@tracybowling97]

@@sreetips You are very welcome, Sir!

[@Stein55Pan]

May I ask, how long did it take you to fill that bucket with all that cement silver?

[@sreetips]

It’s been building for a year or so

[@matthewf1979]

👍 For wearing a respirator around the raw ceramic wool.

[@danielparsons5519]

Great melt! I also like how clean you want your metal. Gotta upgrade your cell now that you upgraded HOW you melt your cement to shot. Gotta be a larger scale Cell that could be created to handle atleast 2xs your current production. Great Video.

[@pknuttarlott4934]

So silver cement looks like dry concrete powder minus the gravel, and dry gold powder looks like high clay content dirt. Does customs enforcement know about this?

[@sreetips]

Gold looks like spice, cumin, cinnamon.

[@pknuttarlott4934]

@@sreetips Cool the camera does not do it justice. Keep up the good work.

[@canaan5337]

It looks like caramel popcorn being poured into a bucket but it sounds more like coins being poured into a bucket.

[@ProfaneGod]

First that is a foundry not a furnace a furnace is for smelting and a foundry is for melting second you may want to position your nozzle further back so its not sitting in the foundry so much and maybe pack some more wool around it so there is not a gap because it may help with the nozzle overheating third getting a metal plate and attaching the wool lid to will help with putting it on or even just some metal rods so it does not misalign or get your hands too close to the heat.

[@sreetips]

Excellent suggestions and correction of terms. Thank you

[@masterscrap3055]

Another video from my favorite channel! Only thing I would have done differently with that furnace is enhance the efficiency. I would use a good boiler refractory cement or rigidizer on the insulation. This would provide better efficiency and safety(air born fibers). A hinged lid wouldn't be bad either but it seems to be melting just fine the way it is. Thanks for another good video!

[@Masterymagic]

I have found that you truly don’t know what “hot” is until you stand over a furnace running full blast and see a material that is normally solid turn to liquid. When I run mine, I joke that I am making a puddle.

[@sreetips]

Small amounts - no problem. But I melted over 10 pounds of metal in just three charges. That much molten metal scares me - but it’s a healthy fear to have.

[@golder70]

Did you washed all your silver shots with distilled water in extenso? If not, theres your silver cristal discolouration... silver chloride. If washed with aqua dest extensively, then I have no idea, but still suspect AgCl. HCl vapours reaching the cell or so...

[@tomahawktom7595]

This is a great video man keep doing stuff like this it’s really interesting and cool to see the whole process and I appreciate Are you taking the time to show the rest of us how that stuff works. Great videos, keep it up

[@dangeroustoman]

Could you please up the volume on these.

[@sreetips]

Sorry, I was in the yard and was trying to keep it down low.

[@JimFinlayson]

Is that enough volume of cement silver to get a good deal from a refiner to clear your backlog?

[@sreetips]

I’m saving all my silver for retirement - it’s the precious metals retirement plan

[@sreetips]

The refiner would only pay 80% of spot for the silver -

[@beauhodges7957]

Great video once again. I had an observation and it got me thinking. You can see the slag on top of the molten silver. I'm curious if that was impurities or pgms that were half melted. It makes you think if those were pgms on the surface, you could skim those off of there to process separately and your silver shot would be that much purer before it goes into the silver cell. Either way, looking forward to another video.

[@SMOBY44]

Great video Senior Chief. Those lifting tongs are awesome, but you might want to get your fabricator to make a pouring holder to go with it. Will make pouring much easier and more comfortable as well. Keep the videos coming!

[@sreetips]

Others have said the same.

[@SMOBY44]

@@sreetips If you watch the channel mbmmllc (Mt Baker mining and metals, here in Wash state) he does a lot with small crucibles and has some really cool tongs and handles. The "smelting silver ore & refining" video from 25 July has some good shots of what he uses.

[@dav06795]

Are you on automatic delivery for Nitric ???

[@sreetips]

No

[@HumanScourgeYT]

All your videos are super interesting and have a very ASMR feeling to them. Love it

[@DirtyPlumbus]

The timelapse of the handle melting off of your bucket was pretty cool.

[@sreetips]

Aluminum rivets - that was expected long ago

[@marineonamission4701]

Always enjoy watching the videos!

[@SteveandSusiesHomestead]

Great video. Why couldnt you dump the melted silver through a suspended screen over the water . To make finer shot ?

[@wormopolis9802]

I would think the molten silver would immediately clog the screen

[@sreetips]

I need a wet board to pour the silver on and cause it to spatter out in smaller pieces instead of pouring a steady stream into the water.

[@Khodazmoon]

You play with silver like it worse nothing. I wish I could have that much silver 😊😊😊

[@sreetips]

It’s worth more than the price listed by the system - way more.

[@Khodazmoon]

@@sreetips yes, I agree with you. Silver worse nothing nowadays

[@SJWCASTING]

Love that furnace!😃

[@timothypirnat3754]

I am so glad you made the furnace instead of using those little crucibles. Both are hot and dangerous, and the furnace is a lot faster,

[@sreetips]

Melting that amount of silver would have taken days

[@scrappydoo7887]

Sreetips how much silver crystal do you have in that bucket!? 🤩

[@sreetips]

We weighed is and it was about 32 pounds

[@scrappydoo7887]

@@sreetips you can't see me but trust me when I say that I am green with envy lol

[@excitedbox5705]

You can get some big steeping bags like they use for beer making and run all that silver at once in a 5 gallon silver cell. Aquariums make a good container due to the wide shape as well. You can use one side for dissolving and the other for plating. This way, any sludge that does make it through will settle out below the dissolving electrode and not mix with the product.

[@sreetips]

There is a critical distance between the anode and the cathode

[@excitedbox5705]

@@sreetips critical distance or amperage/voltage :D

[@sreetips]

Both are critical

[@shanemcguire170]

Just a suggestion. You might want to purchase one of the Devil Forge Furnaces, I think your melt times would be faster, and... safer than the converted stock-pot furnace you currently have. The Devil Force Furnaces I think would be worth your time for the silver melts. Not so sure about the gold, as you seem not to be processing large amounts of gold. Just a thought...

[@sreetips]

I’d never use it

[@DanielKay06]

18:52 delicious home made cornflakes :D

[@masternater6721]

outstanding video. amazing amount of preparation, in building custom tools. appreciate the videos and attention to detail.

[@JC-il7je]

Not sure if others have said anything. But you should coat the fibers in refractory cement for Heath reasons. Interesting to watch but

[@LOT9T]

Well Sreetips there are worse things in life than straining to pick up a 5 gallon bucket of cement silver! :) Great and informative as always sir!

[@srt8madman727]

I've never heard of silver cement before. What is it and what is it used for?

[@ut000bs]

A video from sreetips explaining just that! He's the best. lol kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4mXlaltr9Wfl9k Edit: it is used in his silver cell which is here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4SXiZWKl9KSeNE and here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z56nq2ihYrybhsk

[@srt8madman727]

@@ut000bs Thank you!

[@ogama843]

The lack of slag indicates your silver is pretty pure from the get go!

[@sreetips]

It’s about 98% to 99% pure. It must be or else the electrolyte in the silver cell would quickly become saturated with copper.

[@fredrichardson9761]

That cement silver shot creation process you use definitely requires extreme care given the dire consequences of a mistake. It's good that your a bit concerned about it - you want to be at the top of your game doing that.

[@99508billy]

Hey bud.. will cooling the silver melt in chlorinated water create chlorine gasses? I am sure it would be very low levels. Also... could the process be the "mystery" contamination in your silver cell?

[@stooartbabay]

Awesome video again! Would you please be able to get a second silver cell going??

[@sreetips]

Probably make a good video - construct a second cell from scratch.

[@IMDunn-oy9cd]

@@sreetips I agree. I would learn from that.

[@stooartbabay]

@@sreetips yes please, pretty sure your power supply will handle two cellls and it will help you get through that mountain on silver shot and bigger mountain on cement silver!! :)

[@tracestaker6237]

You should make a video of how you made that home made furnace!! That thing is awesome.

[@sreetips]

Here it is: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYfHi4Gwds6abrc

[@tracestaker6237]

@@sreetips Awesoem!! Thank you 👍🏼 Major fan FYI. I’ve purified now 15oz of pure silver from scrap just from watching your videos. Keep up the great work.

[@IMDunn-oy9cd]

Question for you regarding cementing out the cement silver - If I understand the process correctly, the copper is trading places with the silver as it comes out of solution and forms the cement silver. Any impurities on the copper would "fall" into the cement silver and then become one further impurity to filter out during the silver cell process - showing up in the slimes. Do you think it would be worth your time to attempt to clean the copper before the cementing process to remove as much of the impurities as you can? Perhaps a chemical cleaning or even just heating it to redness before use? I'm thinking that it may reduce the amount of contamination in your slimes and extend the life of your filters.

[@sreetips]

Copper wire and tubing are best because they must be high purity copper for extruding or drawing

[@spokehedz]

Someone needs to get BigStackD to make a bigger furnace for buckets that big!

[@user-lb8do4ew6k]

BigStackD comes up in every youtube video where someone melts & casts metal 😄

[@WarhavenSC]

Is there anything you can add to the silver crystals to strengthen them? Would make for some really neat jewelry.

[@sreetips]

Not sure about that

[@WarhavenSC]

@@sreetips Or... if you can carefully remove the liquid and replace with a clear resin, you could then turn it into a super sweet bowling ball.

[@Richmart1955]

❤. What is the purity of cement silver? Estimate is ok. ❤ Have you ever poured a bar of cement silver? ❤. Can you put cement silver directly into a silver Cel? Thank you

[@sreetips]

1) 98% to 99% 2) yes 3) no, it clogs the filter.

[@rv-eb3wu]

guy with a cloud, were you talking about the lil Abner cartoons, the guy in the straw hat that walked with his head down. I think his name was Joe Bifstik

[@Heathenheart1979]

Sir, "you're gonna need a bigger silver cell". I mean, to process all that cement silver.

[@sreetips]

Agree

[@blake571]

Or at least a second silver cell

[@metalmolisher666]

@@blake571 make it 5

[@nikolajwinther5955]

It's remarkable that palladium etc. Is found in the old silverware you dissolve. You'd think the original refiner had removed all traces of it. Or is it a matter of antique silverware refined in a time where absolute purity wasn't so much of an issue and the price of recovering the pmg would outweigh the value of the recovered material? And now with palladium etc. Skyrocketing, it becomes more of an issue?

[@sreetips]

Silver is a carrier of PGMs and gold - trace amounts. They get concentrated in the silver cell slimes.

[@kriskemp4952]

Very cool. Very good to see you being so safe

[@TheKegtwo]

Your cement silver had a good range of colours. Very nice to watch.

[@rdhunkins]

Interesting that the color of the silver shot is almost like the inquarted gold shot in other videos. Any ideas why the silver looks that way? Base metals, or other elements?

[@sreetips]

Copper

[@rdhunkins]

@@sreetips Of course. Cemented silver on copper.

[@sreetips]

The cement silver is about 98% to 99% pure silver. The rest is copper. It don’t take much to turn the silver ugly-looking due to oxidation.

[@husky500cr]

Wow, your silver process has gotten bigger. The next video will be Sreetips in a crane holding a large industrial bucket pouring the silver in a large pool of water.

[@chemicalmike646]

Heres a handy tip; If you haven't done so already, put some paper underneath the crucible,so that it doesnt stick to the furnace. :D

[@sreetips]

Thank you

[@Alrik.]

Very nice process, it seems fun to do too! Do you think you'll need more or a bigger silver cell, or will you just continue with your current one slow and steady?

[@sreetips]

I could build another cell from scratch and run two silver cells. That would make a nice video.

[@chewiepac5932]

Hey bud have you tried any of the paste glazes for your melting pots to be able make a shot pouring pot , by drilling a few 1/8in. Holes in the side of you melt pot for dripping vents

[@sreetips]

Yes, they clog up very quickly

[@richardbeee]

Almost time for a tilt furnace. That's a lot of silver.

[@sreetips]

If I’d just get off my lazy behind and do the work it wouldn’t back up on me like that

[@Y2KNW]

Oh, he's gonna melt a crucible of silver powder, this should be be nice. Silver's up so that should be worth a bit. **5 GALLON BUCKET**

[@slimpickins09er87]

Sreetips, what is the percentage of the cement silver and could you flux it in the furnace to get the impurities out of it. PS your lifter tongs are awesome. I didn't notice the bracing bar on them on your first pour and was sitting on pins and needles over here. Once you get a few melts under your belt with the furnace, it is no more dangerous than anything else.

[@sreetips]

Impurity is mostly copper. Fluxing won’t remove it. The only way to get the copper out is to run it through the silver cell

[@slimpickins09er87]

@@sreetips Thanks Sreetips, I was off on my logic, I was thinking the copper had been separated during the cement process and the impurities were just platinum and gold. Like always this is great content.

[@sreetips]

Most of the copper gets removed during cementing. But there are still tiny bits of copper.

[@ja-canadian5451]

Suggestion... before starting the melt, weigh out 1 lb batches of the silver powder into bags (maybe ziplock type) then just drop the bags into the crucible bag and all. No scooping powder outside and spilling into the furnace and your hand won't get so cooked.

[@sreetips]

Interesting

[@erbalumkan369]

what's with the sound volume?

[@sreetips]

I was in my backyard and was trying to keep the noise level down - sorry.

[@christurnbull2246]

Could one process sterling silver shot through their silver cell, or is 92.5% not pure enough? I googled this question, but couldn’t find a definitive answer. I expect this might use up electrolyte at an increased rate, but I feel like I could do this? Was hoping you would weigh in on this? Love the channel, thanks for all the great videos!

[@sreetips]

925 will go but the electrolyte would quickly become saturated with copper. The silver going into the anode basket should be up around 98% to 99% for best results. This is true for most electrolytic refining.

[@christurnbull2246]

@@sreetips Thanks for taking the time to answer my question!

[@joek511]

I have about 50 lbs of silver contacts from industrial equipment. I lke your furnace, do you have a link / links for the supplies?

[@sreetips]

I got the burner on eBay. The ceramic wool at Grainger.

[@shywatcher1961]

another awesome video and man does that silver crystal look beautiful.....

[@sameerh.mohamed7913]

in one of your video, you use graphite as cathode. is there another cathode that can be use?thnx

[@sreetips]

I’ve used stainless steel and graphite. That’s my only experience.

[@MasterJJG]

@sreetips I would love to buy an Ounce or 2 of your Larger Chunk Silver Shot you just poured there / Especially the ones with the Gold Toning / Very Cool / Any chance you might put Some up on Ebay ?

[@camus6208]

Can you build a second electrolytic silver cell apparatus? Get silver twice faster. ..

[@sreetips]

Yes, watch for the video

[@xxvvvvdjcocopuff1xxz825]

Yeah you need to get together with a black smith to make a bottom and top ring and Handel's for the crucible so you can have more control on the poorest maybe make a permanent smelt would be awesome. Great content they should be teaching this in schools it is great knowledge

[@VerdantImage]

Have you tried melting into sheets to speed the process up? Like use a steel sheet and a silver sheet to process a larger amount

[@sreetips]

You’re referring to a moebius silver cell. I plan on adding another Thum cell in the near future. Thum cell the anode and cathode are vertically opposed. Moebius cell the anode and cathode are horizontally opposed. I use a Thum cell.

[@VerdantImage]

@@sreetips have you thought of converting to refine larger quantities?

[@sreetips]

I’d like to keep it at a hobby level. No need to get any bigger - but I will probably construct another silver cell.

[@VerdantImage]

@@sreetips good luck brother!

[@chrisp7641]

How long do you think it would take to finish off the entire bucket?

[@sreetips]

I may have finished the whole bucket in a day.

[@ifindmetal]

I don’t even need to watch it first thing I do is hit like ,love all your videos !!

[@catofnineshadows2751]

I have a question not sure if it's been answered yet but how big can you go with the silver cell?

[@sreetips]

There are two types: moebius and thumb. I can’t remember which, but one suspends the anode basket (like mine) the other hangs anode bars between cathode plates. The one with plates hanging can be as large as the size of the tank permits. The small cell (like mine) is limited by a critical distance between the bottom of the anode filter and the bottom of the stainless bowl: 4 inch to 4.5 inches.

[@catofnineshadows2751]

@@sreetips that is awesome thank you for the information and I enjoy watching your videos I don't fully know why but they are calming to me

[@THR33STEP]

Where do you get all the silver and gold from?

[@sreetips]

Yard sales, thrift stores, resale shops, consignment stores, estate sales, etc….

[@THR33STEP]

Excellent!!! Thanks for responding

[@franksworld9922]

Is the color due to oxidation or is there copper in the silver powder?

[@sreetips]

Yes

[@szaboaz]

I wonder if a "silver on tap" mechanism could be implemented, for fun, or maybe for profit. For continuous melting, the bottom of the melting pot could have a tap which could be opened to let the molten silver out right into the water barrel without the need to stop the heat. I'm not sure, if such a tap exists or what material could it be to withstand the melting temperature, and not get stuck. The advantage would be increased productivity and energy efficiency. The disadvantage is the added complexity and possible disaster if the apparatus goes wrong.

[@chiseler151]

wouldn't the cement dissolve better into the acid?

[@sreetips]

The cement silver clogs the silver cell filter and causes current to drop off. I tried it and the result was poor. Silver shot is the way to go.

[@davidhope5875]

Just wondered, What's the weight of a 5 gallon bucket of cement silver?

[@sreetips]

Got to over a hundred pounds

[@dingo23451]

Screetips you really need a better setup for transfering the silver powder into the crucible. Something like a big metal funnel. Everytime you spill something my heart bleeds.

[@DarkMatterX1]

@@reverendtfg6802 That's not how people get, _or stay,_ rich. Rich people care about every cent.

[@sreetips]

Rich: having more than you need. By that definition I’m rich. But doesn’t change the fact that I’m nearly flat broke and deeply in debt.

[@reverendtfg6802]

@@sreetips *Sorry to be the one to break it to you, but folks with $30,000 hotrods and 5 gallon buckets filled with precious metals aren't 'flat broke'.*

[@sreetips]

I can’t get $20k for the hot rod. And it’s a 2 gallon not five.

[@sreetips]

Semantics: of or relating to meaning in language. Had to look it up.

[@walterterrell677]

Does refining the silver crystal back through the silver cell go faster the second time around? Or does that exchange occur at a "steady" pace regardless of the purity? Thank you for sharing all this. freaking science, man...exciting stuff!

[@sreetips]

It’s the same pace

[@walterterrell677]

@@sreetips Thank you.

[@spirok1734]

Have you looked into electric units for melting metals? I hear some of the induction units are amazing.

[@sreetips]

I have an electric furnace

[@bertonswartzwelder8820]

@sreetips How would you personally go about separating the copper from the silver in Sheffield silver plate?

[@sreetips]

I don’t know, I’ve not tried deplating silver yet. But I’ll figure it out.

[@josephcormier5974]

Sir that is a lot of silver cements !! Thank you two thumbs

[@masternater6721]

long-time viewer. love the videos. have you thought about making a video of trying to refine/retrieving/reusing your nitric acid in your silver refining process?

[@sreetips]

Yes, but I rejected the idea.

[@Makermook]

What would you estimate is the purity/percent of silver in your cement silver?

[@sreetips]

98% to 99%

[@krakhedd]

Something about the glow of your furnace in particular reminds me of the blue glow created by Cherenkov radiation

[@siani_boo6745]

How long does it take to reach boiling point?

[@sreetips]

Not sure

[@Fambamm-ib6pw]

Awesome video as always!