sRGB vs adobeRGB for photography - What YOU need to know!

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Mike Smith

Mike Smith

4 жыл бұрын

Today I’m talking about colour space which is the sRGB, Adobe RGB and prophotoRGB profiles.
Colour spaces can be really confusing and there is a lot of conflicting information on line. But if you understand how it works, you can make better decisions in what to use, or what not to use, depending on what you intend on doing with your images. I am going to start with what colour profiles are, then the setting in camera and how it might affect your images, if at all… then how these different colour profiles will work in your computer.
There are so many different colour profiles and if you look at your computer display settings, you can pick so many different ones but for photography all you need to know about is sRGB, AdobeRGB(1998) and ProphotoRGB…these are set standards… so from the camera taking a photograph, through to editing and printing, you will, in theory, get the same colour and by the computer making mathematical calculations, it can keep these colours as consistent as possible.
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@stephenwoodburn2970
@stephenwoodburn2970 4 жыл бұрын
While flying helicopters for the last 30 years, I am often asked how helicopters work, to explain the rotary wing aerodynamics. My answer is always the same, PFM (pure f'ing magic). That's kind of how I think color spaces work. With that said, the amount of time and research that you put into these videos to explain these things to us is very impressive and much appreciated. Thanks, Mike.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Haha!! I might have to use that next time someone asks me about color space!! 😆 Thanks dude, much appreciated as always. 😁👍
@TKN_NTBY
@TKN_NTBY 4 жыл бұрын
absolutely underrated channel. Thanks for precious insights
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much. Really appreciate your kind words. 😁👍
@martymusselwhite7423
@martymusselwhite7423 4 жыл бұрын
This is exactly the information I needed explained very well. I just subscribed.
@Rothmans406
@Rothmans406 3 жыл бұрын
All I can say is THANK YOU SO MUCH, Mike! This is much needed, and the fact that you were able to explain such a complicated topic in less than 20 minutes is absolutely amazing. This is a must watch video for all photographers/videographers. Thanks again! I'm definitely subscribing to this channel!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear!! This was a challenging one to make and I learned a lot in the process as well, so it's a win win for all of us!! 😁👍 Thanks so much for watching, commenting and subscribing, much appreciated...and welcome to the community!! 😁👍
@OptimaMrL
@OptimaMrL 4 жыл бұрын
Brilliant tutorial. You’ve put in a single video what’s taken me 10 years to learn, and bits I forgot. It brings all key photography colour knowledge in one place.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Lionel! I'm glad I could help, and I'm glad you liked the tutorial...it took a while to get everything together and I learned a lot in the process as well! Thanks for watching. 😁👍
@kilombazo
@kilombazo 2 жыл бұрын
Mike thank you so much for taking the time to create this video, it really does explain a subject that is beyond confusing for the most of us. Your explanation to this topic was not only helpful and clean but entertaining as well. Thank you again mate! My head is spinning right now with new knowledge!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much George! This was a big one to get through and I learned a lot when researching for it!! Thanks for watching 😁👍
@paulvo1621
@paulvo1621 4 жыл бұрын
I always wondered about this subject of sRGB & AdobeRGB. I am happy you presented this topic, clearly & concisely. Thank you for your great work. 🙂
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Paul...i definitely learned a lot by making this video so it's a win win. 😁👍
@trevorshirley3012
@trevorshirley3012 2 жыл бұрын
This video was the perfect amount of depth and information that I was looking for as a photographer. Thank you for all the effort you put into this video.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
No worries Trevor, I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@johndunsmuir5623
@johndunsmuir5623 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, Thanks a bunch for a great video. I've spent a fair amount of time doing quantitative grayscale image analysis. I occasionally drifted into color analysis in petrographic thin sections. Your video raised many cautions for me to consider, a real eye-opener. Thanks again.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hi John, That's great to hear. Petrographic thin sections takes me back a few years...I did a degree in geology back in '97!! 😆 Thanks for watching 😁👍
@writethisthat3613
@writethisthat3613 7 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for putting this video together on a very complicated and confusing topic. You did a great job with this tutorial. No doubt I will be coming back here for reference.
@jjaylad
@jjaylad 2 ай бұрын
My lightbulb moment a few years ago was to make my Monitors match a disappointing print I had just made, which was dull and had plugged up shadows. Then in LR I adjusted it until it looked the way I wanted. Since then, with that workflow, I have been completely happy with prints I make and with prints and photo books from labs. I suspect most use some 'industry standard' equipment calibration and whatever that is, they match my printer very closely. I switched from Adobe RGB to SRGB some time back ...possibly after watching an earlier video of yours that you mentioned that in. Keep up the great work!
@solverz4078
@solverz4078 Жыл бұрын
This video FINALLY made me understand how colour management works ☺
@Fell_Wanderer
@Fell_Wanderer 4 жыл бұрын
Very informative Mike, this video has given me food for thought as colour science is complex and its hard to grasp but has taught me a lot so thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, it was really interesting to put together and to see exactly how it affected my workflow. Thans for watching. 👍
@melmagallon6233
@melmagallon6233 3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the best vid I've seen on color management! Great job!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Mel! 😁👍
@eiriklade93
@eiriklade93 4 жыл бұрын
Very good video. Quick and information dense, yet clear and easy to follow. Thanks!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. 😁👍
@onikaimu
@onikaimu 4 жыл бұрын
Great video full of information. Yes, this subject is a little bit dry but you did a great job explaining it. Thank you!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Lance. I learned a lot from this as well so it's a win win. 😁👍
@Draganski
@Draganski 3 жыл бұрын
Great , concise overview of a complicated topic. Thank you.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! 😁👍
@Soho_Studio
@Soho_Studio 3 жыл бұрын
So many questions answered in this one video. Thank you so much!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching 😁👍
@AngeloTullio
@AngeloTullio 4 жыл бұрын
Great and clear explanation on a subject sometimes not so easy to understand. Thanks!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Angelo! 😁👍
@djack41
@djack41 4 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled on this video. All I can say is BRAVO!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! 😁👍
@adailyodyssey
@adailyodyssey 4 жыл бұрын
you have some of the best explanation videos on youtube
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much, this one was really interesting to do, especially testing it through my normal workflow. Thanks for watching! 😁👍
@adventure_photo
@adventure_photo 4 жыл бұрын
Well done and very informative Mike, thanks!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! 😁👍
@BellonsFPV
@BellonsFPV 3 жыл бұрын
Best color profile video I have seen so far! Great!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Alessandro! 😁👍
@daansd7453
@daansd7453 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, this has answered so many questions I had!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear I could help Daan! 😁👍
@dappdrone
@dappdrone 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, the most informative and useful video for any photographers out there, i'm looking for a laptop for photo editing and this will surely help me to filter my list based on the screen's color gamut. Bravo!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear it has helped! Thanks for watching 😁👍
@jasonkennedy2045
@jasonkennedy2045 4 жыл бұрын
What an awesome guide... everyone should watch this!! Thanks Mike... keep em coming! Cheers Jase
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Jase! It was a big topic to cover but I learned a lot when making as well...so it's a win win. 😁👍
@jasonkennedy2045
@jasonkennedy2045 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the “keep it simple” stupid model that works. For me, the challenge is always about printing and keeping one colour space is key. Your advice about doing test prints is solid but us of meagre means, it gets expensive but agree that calibrating screen with printer and paper types is always a challenge. Maybe worth mentioning that paper companies offer free profiles for your own specific printer. I use fotospeed and they are awesome for this. Nigel Danson did a series on this which is also great for people wanting to delve into printing from home. Thank bud! I am also still rocking the a7iii and it’s awesome. Cheers Jase
@STGJones
@STGJones 7 ай бұрын
Mike, Many thanks for explaining this so well, especially the differences in "save as" diagogue vs "export as" dialogue in PS and Lightroom. Youre a sRGB-AdobeRGB hero!
@vikaphotography
@vikaphotography Жыл бұрын
honestly the best video on this on KZbin -- thank youuuu!! the other ones I've watched are so confusing!!!
@BorealisLite
@BorealisLite 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. Best explanation I could conceive of. Thanks!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! 😁👍
@stephenschmid492
@stephenschmid492 10 ай бұрын
Thanks, Mike, excellent video. I hadn't realized that the camera's color space setting does not affect the Raw file, so that is an excellent piece of knowledge to acquire. Thank you!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 10 ай бұрын
No worries Stephen, I'm glad I could help with this. Colour science is a tricky subject and I learned a lot when researching this video. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@neilcarter960
@neilcarter960 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike really informative on a difficult subject ( for some anyway)
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Neil. It was definitely a big one I'd been putting off for a while. I'm glad you liked it. 😁👍
@sonicyouth76
@sonicyouth76 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike for the great info!!👍🏽👍🏽
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching! 😁👍
@donmojo632
@donmojo632 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this wonderful load of information.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching Don. 😁👍
@ChrisLyons
@ChrisLyons 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! Very helpful information :)
@4shantanu
@4shantanu 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing knowledge for those who confused between color profiles 👏🏽👏🏽
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! 😁👍
@winkipinky
@winkipinky 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great and very detailed tutorial. 👍👍
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
And thanks for watching. 😁👍
@LeeIveson
@LeeIveson 2 жыл бұрын
Well explained, top job Mike! 👌
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Lee!! 😁👍
@LEYGSL
@LEYGSL 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown, it really helped me 2 understand very clearly. Thanks.
@MetalManiaAllTheWay
@MetalManiaAllTheWay 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative. Thank you!
@GaryBox
@GaryBox 7 ай бұрын
Useful video on what is a confusing topic. I visited the topic some years ago and my working space in the image editor was always set to ProPhoto RGB. I used to use the export for web option and had the srgb box checked so my images were being converted to srgb on export. Never had any issues. Then very recently I decided to look into next gen images formats for my websites and started saving images to webp using the save as option. Once this, images were uploaded to social media and they looked really dull. I'm not aware of any check box on save as option. From your video it seems I need to convert the colour space to srgb just prior to opting to save as webp. Going to look into that now as I'd like to use the widest colour space possible during the editing process. I've read that it's also best to work in 16bit or 24 bit colour space for more aggressive edits to avoid banding and other artifacts. I'm assuming if you leave the conversion to srgb to the final stage you will avoid artifacts?
@szymonkaczmarekart
@szymonkaczmarekart 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job! Thank you man
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Szymon! 😁👍
@jeduardo38
@jeduardo38 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, much better understanding. Thank you for sharing.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching James! 😁👍
@yinon_tal
@yinon_tal 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
No worries, thanks for watching! 😆👍
@leilahijazi6313
@leilahijazi6313 8 ай бұрын
It was great video, helpful informations and It was a detailed explanation. Thank you
@billbell8800
@billbell8800 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, great info......
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, thanks for watching Bill! 😁👍
@georgeslteif
@georgeslteif 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for this video!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
And thank you for watching Georges 😁👍
@adeepoberoi1130
@adeepoberoi1130 Ай бұрын
Thanks for a great video. I believe that if you want to edit in a bigger spage than rgb, for instance adobe rgb, you will need a monitor that you can switch to adobe rgb, you have much more color space to manipulate the photo. then when finished convert it to rgb for web usage. On a normal monitor (mostly simple rgb) you can not see the adobe color range. From raw shot to edit in big color space (adobe rgb) with a monitor set to adobe rgb and then when finished convert to rgb for everyone to see.
@seniorcaptain6117
@seniorcaptain6117 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!! Congratulations!!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! 😁👍
@Mr09260
@Mr09260 4 жыл бұрын
Great Info Here Mike
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. 😁👍
@wvideoyahoodk
@wvideoyahoodk 3 ай бұрын
Now I got it 👍🥰 Thank you. Super video
@maskora1
@maskora1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, that was very helpful
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography Жыл бұрын
No worries, thank you for watching!
@shawntaylor9509
@shawntaylor9509 2 жыл бұрын
Do you actually benefit from ProPhotoRGB when your monitor can only display sRGB?
@alanp9100
@alanp9100 4 жыл бұрын
Well done on choosing to cover what I'm sure many (including me !) find a very confusing area, AND doing a Great job of it . . . may have to go through it a few times ? - thanks Mike PS : Any tips on actually what / how to Tweak settings when doing the "Lots of Test Prints" you suggested ? Thanks.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, it was definitely a big subject to cover. With the test prints, just look at the print and see what needs changing. I normally print one out and think about the exposure, contrast and saturation...make one change at a time and see if its better or worse... If its better, keep the change... If its worse try the opposite. After a few goes it should start to make sense and come together, and start to look like the shot you intended on printing. 👍
@tekinalpturk571
@tekinalpturk571 3 жыл бұрын
Wonderful explanation. Thanyou
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Vahid! 😁👍
@dreamship563
@dreamship563 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. Awesome explanation. Congrats. I have a couple of questions. I use Dxo photolab 4 and have a Benq sw270c monitor with i1 display pro. I am going to calibrate it soon. I always shoot in raw and upload my images to social media. Also would like to send my favourite images to a lab. Is it possible to edit my photos with dxo and export them in lightroom to srgb and adobe rgb? Should i change the profile in the software to what i get after calibration? I mean icc or whatever? I am still learning this. Thank you for your time and effort.
@bhaumikmehta2317
@bhaumikmehta2317 2 жыл бұрын
Very Helpful !
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography Жыл бұрын
That's great to hear!! Thanks for watching 😁👍
@Kokurorokuko
@Kokurorokuko 3 жыл бұрын
If you shoot in RAW + JPEG stay with sRGB cuz you're gonna edit your RAW, not JPEG, files anyway and it's always good to have an ability to upload your sRGB photo anywhere.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, I say stick with sRGB. 👍
@DeiTheCulinarian
@DeiTheCulinarian 5 ай бұрын
Great video! Color has been driving me crazy for months! Finally calibrated my screen and it’s so much better! Question: if I edit in AdobeRGB and convert to sRGB, will it retain the vibrancy then? I love the reds produced in Adobe but prefer the browns/yellows/oranges I’m seeing from my work in sRGB.
@markchristopherwright
@markchristopherwright 2 жыл бұрын
SIMLAB printing asks for sRGB, I wondered what was going on, and I'm buying a new monitor, this is super useful thanks! SIMLAB are great btw, I mean, I was pleased - colours were nothing like I thought they would be but edited on an uncalibrated monitor. Colour management has broad implications.
@gurugokul3732
@gurugokul3732 4 жыл бұрын
Finally expected video came
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😁👍
@IanIkonya
@IanIkonya 4 жыл бұрын
thanks Mike,I have understood
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Great to hear Ian! 😁👍
@mezomoza7
@mezomoza7 4 жыл бұрын
I subscribed after watching this video. Thanks
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! Thanks for watching and subscribing, much appreciated! 😁👍
@M4W07
@M4W07 Жыл бұрын
Hey Mike!, I do photography as a hobby, I’ll be going to college next year, so I needed a compact gaming laptop with good build quality, thus I chose the zephyrus g14. But in my region the 6800hs + 6700s costs about 1572$ (Much more than in US), it has fhd+ @ 144 hz display with 100% sRGB. Then there’s another version of it, with qhd+ @ 120 hz display with 100% dci p3 coverage. My main camera is the iPhone 14 Pro Max - therefore I’ll be shooting in Apple ProRAW at 4K and 8K HDR. Which one do you recommend? The dci p3 version is 300$ more expensive for rest specs are same! Except it has the AniMe matrix display (but that’s just a cool gimmic) do I need the higher resolution and the dci p3 100% or, is the fhd+ with 100% sRGB good enough for me? Edit: 07:30 oh! So that’s why when I try to edit some photos in the iPhone’s native editor, they get much brighter while editing? Such as sky photos 10:54 yea I’ll be posting those only on my Instagram mostly
@chryseass.5143
@chryseass.5143 4 жыл бұрын
Will there be a test, sir? Great information, Mike!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Haha!! Not this week...but maybe soon!! 😆 Thanks so much!! 👍
@SCP--ud7fc
@SCP--ud7fc 4 жыл бұрын
That stare is DEADLY💀
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Haha!! 😘
@K.JD66
@K.JD66 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, very interesting explanations, this is my procedure, RAW-Lightroom editing sometimes export to photoshop (photoshop color settings adobe RGB1998 as Lightroom preference) Why work in PRO photo color space if the monitors only cover the adobeRGB space? If you have monitors with only 100% sRGB space you will not be able to see colors in the adobeRGB space and the images will always look the same when comparing them. Editing for the web is it better to see only the sRGB color space on the monitor or if you have the possibility to set adobeRGB space on the monitor? Thanks
@stuffstuffstuffyay
@stuffstuffstuffyay Жыл бұрын
Thanks for vid! What do you say about the default my camera raw/Lightroom seems to use- Display P3. I'm not sure if this if I should change it. Also, what setting do you keep your screen on? I have mine on Adobe rgb 1998, not sure if that is the best one. I have a new mac laptop. thanks!
@dubuonew8015
@dubuonew8015 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike, should someone do digital art and wanted to print that artwork get a monitor that has Adobe RGB to make sure the prints' color are correct? or sRGB can do the same correct color on the monitor?
@muhammadbasir83
@muhammadbasir83 Жыл бұрын
1:57 This is the first time I noticed that K colour is overlapping CMY colour. Now I know why my print result are bluish in glossy paper.
@ArthasProVEVO
@ArthasProVEVO 3 жыл бұрын
i liked your video because of Foo Fighters, cheers Mate
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Haha! And I like you as a viewer because you like the foo fighters! 😁👍
@ArthasProVEVO
@ArthasProVEVO 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesphotography Shine On You Crazy Diamond ☺
@ArthasProVEVO
@ArthasProVEVO 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesphotography i have Subscribed you TOO, Have a great Journey Ahead Mate
@mirrorless_travelogues
@mirrorless_travelogues 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for such detailed information. I always use AdobeRGB colour space. I have give some photographs for a exhibition. I found that my prints are too dull. I process all the pictures using Adobe Lightroom in MacBook Air .what will be the reaaons and how to overcome ?
@papainlutz8337
@papainlutz8337 Жыл бұрын
Please do a video on Soft Proofing for printing.
@GrizDrummer25
@GrizDrummer25 3 жыл бұрын
Phew, I always shoot Raw, so I'm clear :) Thanks!
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Yep! All the data will still be in that file. 😁👍
@lorenzoortiz9504
@lorenzoortiz9504 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, another great video. I do have a question. I got a new laptop and it claims to be able to do 100% Adobe rgb on its display. But it also does rgb as a display. Would you suggest that if I know I'm going to print something to switch the display profile to Adobe. And for everything else to keep it in rgb? I do have a spider calibration tool that I have not used yet as the laptop is brand new. Thanks Mike.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lorenzo, If you are going to be printing, I'd say switch it to adobeRGB ... just remember to switch it back before outputting to the web as that will display them as sRGB files and you might get those weird looking colours when uploading them to the web. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@lorenzoortiz9504
@lorenzoortiz9504 3 жыл бұрын
@@mikesphotography you're the man Mike! Thank you!
@ksnmurthy4476
@ksnmurthy4476 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this good video. What laptop is good for photo editing with good color gamut? Please suggest.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 2 жыл бұрын
No worries, I'm glad I could help. I am predominantly a mac user so I couldn't recommend a PC laptop. Most of the top brands will have good screens but you will have to pay at least $1000 for a decent one. The best thing is to go into a city near you to try some of them out.
@DipeshMehrotra
@DipeshMehrotra 4 жыл бұрын
I am facing a strange issue thought I would check here. There is an image i edited in photoshop on Mac, exported as sRgb , jpeg. Now when i download the same jpeg image on windows machine, the image shows perfect color in the photo viewer. But when I open the same image in photoshop/ lightroom or Capture one or Affinity I see a sepia tone to it. What should I change in my windows machine, so that I get consistent color across application. Just bought a new surface book 3, and this issue is making me nuts.
@ME2K23
@ME2K23 3 ай бұрын
Some comparisons between sRGB and ProPhotoRGB (arond11:10 - 11:15) may look the same on screen in the editor (Photoshop-Lightroom), but the histograms are still different, showing that both images are not really the same 🤔 Would these differences show when printing?
@MOAB-UT
@MOAB-UT 2 жыл бұрын
Does sRGB vs Adobe RGB apply if shooting RAW or are those only for JPEG's? I shoot RAW+JPEG Fine. Which color space should I be selecting? I don't print much but might print a really nice image and hang it up on metal usually.
@paulm8157
@paulm8157 4 жыл бұрын
👍Mind-blowing info for mind-blowing topic, Mike! (Lame props, but they illustrate the point😁.) Didn’t know LAB is 3D model. Got intro to CMYK when I first did color printing in home darkroom - kept confusing CMYK with “CYA”, but that’s another story😂. Kidding aside, am still confused about RAW/color space settings in camera (especially w/file naming convention). Vid implies when shooting RAW, color space doesn’t matter. Yet, Sony offers choice and generates ARW files w/different name conventions - vid shows several ARW files, some w/underscore and some w/o. I use RAW w/AdobeRGB, thinking I’ll have the widest color range lattitude when editing in LR. I export to sRGB. Am I kidding myself, or would I be better off (print and screen display) to use RAW/sRGB in camera?
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
Haha!! I searched far and wide for those props! 😆 I know what you mean, I was wondering the same, why bother changing the name of the raw file and even give us the option when raw is set. It does seem like there isn't any difference between the two in Raw...I've never noticed any difference whatsoever...👍
@jerrymicpiano
@jerrymicpiano 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm shooting Sony camera raw and using Photoshop with Camera Raw (not Lightroom) the defaults seem to be sRGB, which is what one of my print houses requires. But I notice a change in brightness from Photoshop to Photoshop's Camera Raw. The Camera Raw is brighter and when I import back to Photoshop, the image is less bright and I often use a Screen blend mode in Photoshop to compensate as I save out .psd and .jpg files. But that doesn't seem right, right?
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much! I'd say that camera raw probably uses a wider colours space in the RAW viewing window and then converts the preview to an srgb colour space when you open it in photoshop?
@dwoodog
@dwoodog 4 ай бұрын
Great video, but should we have touched on having a monitor that supports adobe RGB?
@oneclickbeaute9244
@oneclickbeaute9244 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent and great skills you have for teaching
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! 😁👍
@willimitus
@willimitus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna be honest, I am not smarter than the average bear, and understood about 10% of what you said. Lol. I'll just leave my camera in srgb and not worry about it.
@johndc7446
@johndc7446 Жыл бұрын
I have read that Imac monitors have DCI-P3 gamuts, A gamut that has similar size to Adobe RGB but has slight differences in color coverage. What happens when you print in Adobe RGB while using a monitor that only displays DCI-P3 gamut? Are the color inconsistencies very noticeable or bad?
@omerozvardar8545
@omerozvardar8545 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for great explanation about color spaces. I am confused about the actual workflow. I usually don't use PS, I edit my photos in LR and export when I publish them on web or on Instagram. My monitor can display 100% of Adobe RGB and sRBG. I shoot in RAW. My Workflow is set the monitor to Adobe RGB, import photos, edit in ProPhoto although I cannot see the full spectrum due my monitor constraint. Then export it as Jpeg in sRGB. I check how the picture looks like in a web browser and I switch my monitor to sRGB setting. In certain occasion there is a difference and I have to get back to LR and make some new edits and redo the whole process. If my intention is only web or instagram publishing, would it make more sense to have the following workflow? Set the monitor to sRGB, import raw file into LR, edit it there. Then export as Jpeg in sRGB. In this case, I don't need to check if they look ok because what I see is what I have. I'd appreciate your help on this. Thanks.
@NicholasYg
@NicholasYg 4 жыл бұрын
Set your monitor to srgb if it's based on web-based publishings. Why bother Adobe RGB if you're not doing any printing at all?
@rogerbai4542
@rogerbai4542 Жыл бұрын
Hi Omer, I have the exact the same problem. I edit my photos in Photoshop with monitor in AdobeRGB mode, export as jpeg in sRGB. But when I check these exported photos with monitor in sRGB model, I can see a small difference....I still don't know what caused this difference.. Have you fixed this issue?
@OctaviusGeorge
@OctaviusGeorge 2 жыл бұрын
what about for example, system profiles, I have an HP DreamColor laptop and it lets me choose from SRGB, Bt709, adobe1998 dcip3 and native, and every time i change a profile the luminance changes too for accuracy, and what i have been doing in the last years was to shoot on raw and edit them on lightroom with adobergb1998 and export them on adobetgb on export settings
@anthonymrbs
@anthonymrbs 3 ай бұрын
The question I have is if you have a monitor where you can select between AdobeRGB and sRGB color spaces, which should you select for editing in Lightroom? I know when I switch from AdobeRGB to sRGB on my Dell U2413 monitor the colors of my photos in Lightroom are more muted so there must be a difference. I shoot in RAW, but when I export however I assign sRGB. It kind of makes sense to me that I should keep the monitor set to sRGB all the time so that my exported sRGB jpg files match what I see on the monitor while editing the photos.
@archilious
@archilious 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. But the 2D horseshoe diagram does not come from Lab color space. It comes from XYZ color space.
@kudinkudos2154
@kudinkudos2154 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks mike, great info
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
And thanks for watching Kudin. 😁👍
@kudinkudos2154
@kudinkudos2154 4 жыл бұрын
Wc mike.. I always watched your video, only not when I go work for few months where the internet access is limited(offshore), I cant even open the youtube. And if you noticed if i stop liking or commenting on your video,thats when i go to work😅. Thanks again mike, i learned a lot from you🙏😊
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
No worries, it's all about binge watching these days anyway! 😁And they're always here to watch anytime. 👍
@kiiroao9756
@kiiroao9756 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike!, I'm an Digital artist and I wonder which is better for me, s/Adobergb?
@MyJuancho2010
@MyJuancho2010 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU MIKE!!!!! How can I do it, if the store that develops my photos does not give me a color profile..is there any way I can do this on my own to continue using this lab. THANK YOU THANK YOU if some body can help me...
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
The best way would be to build up a relationship with them. Then over time you'll get to know some of the workers there and they might be able to help you...also when you use a place a lot, you'll get to know how they print your images and will then be able to make the changes to get the best out of them. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@dalefmurphy
@dalefmurphy 3 жыл бұрын
What I don't understand is why has Adobe given us the ProPhoto RGB colour space when no current monitor can work with it? You are going to fiddle with image colours in the default colour space/gamut of your monitor and might (?) mess up an image that is in the ProPhoto RGB colour space.
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly...I suppose different parts of the process develop at different rates...it is annoying when we have all of this colour detail available but then if we want to show our images on most monitors or on line, this gets clipped quite a bit. That's why I pretty much work to the sRGB profile...then I'll get the most out of what I have to work with. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@mark_barrentine
@mark_barrentine 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for answering my question, will the in-camera color space setting affect the RAW file? No, the color space setting only affects the jpeg files.
@formless4541
@formless4541 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mike Could you tell me if it's normal for an exported adobe rgb jpg file to be a tad smaller than an exported srgb jpg file, both coming from the same raw file? I've noticed that the srgb is consistently larger, though only a little
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
That is strange...I haven't noticed a difference, but I haven't really switched between the two...
@tourtravel6245
@tourtravel6245 4 жыл бұрын
Dear brother, which is the best setting for dslr click for upload social media like Facebook? srgb or adobe rgb?
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 4 жыл бұрын
As most websites have the sRGB colour space, I'd stick with that one. Then you shouldn't see any shift in your image colours. 👍
@iFlorisDB
@iFlorisDB 3 жыл бұрын
I am a graphic designer, the laptop I’m thinking of buying has 100% sRGB and 75% Adobe RGB. Is that good for me?
@formless4541
@formless4541 3 жыл бұрын
I tried to do exports to jpg in Adobe RGB from prophoto rgb in Photoshop and eventually gave up because it seems far too much complicated hassle. Exporting in Lightroom solved the problem
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear you found a solution to your problem. Thanks for watching 😁👍
@OrelRussia
@OrelRussia 2 ай бұрын
Hello! Could you, pkease, help me with my issue? I have a n sRGB monitor and I had been always used sRGB color space for all my photos. I also have a film scanner that doesn't have offer to save its scans in a raw format but it still uses internal raws. All raw converters that I know don't support this raw format but I can open them in Photoshop with some manipulation. What I found is that such raws don't look good (even positives). One day I tried to assign to such files an AdobeRGB profile and they started to look just right! Why is it so? My monitor can't show AdobeRGB colors. Also, how can I convert such scabs into sRGB without loosing their good appearence? Whenever I do it, my scans begin to look dull once again.
@hbarwick1
@hbarwick1 3 жыл бұрын
Mike how can I export a raw image from my Sony a7ii to a $k sharp image
@angelajones2087
@angelajones2087 3 жыл бұрын
So would you recommend using the sRGB or Adobe RGB with my MacBook computer profile?
@mikesphotography
@mikesphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Angela, I use sRGB and they come out just fine. 😁👍
@alexshdvideo
@alexshdvideo 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Explained it well. Since I shoot RAW… I don’t care about SRGB or Adobe RGB.. unless I just shoot to direct to web.. (I don’t.. and if I did it would be with my iPhone 13 Pro. ;)
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