SS14 - Science Artifact Research Explained

[@firewars7636]

Having to lay out all the node papers makes me think Science should have a pinboard of some kind.

[@Liltenhead]

I'd love for a Shadows of Doubt style pinboard.

[@trix1ify]

Pinboard would be godsent. I've stopped laying notes on the floor after artifact burned them most of the time XD

[@Sen81222]

Honestly you could reuse the linking display from multitools for the lines, add a board background and slots for the papers and youd have a very rudimentary pinboard system

[@userequaltoNull]

You could use folders I think.

[@same_luck_ua1325]

@@Liltenhead what if we used chessboards, you can put items on those, right?

[@Sneauxshews]

Man, i just spent an entire shift on a science ship on Frontier Station thinking "up" bias was going to bias the artifact to go "up" from lower numbers to higher numbers. Now i know why i was feeling so frustrated. Thank God for Liltenhead videos.

[@Liltenhead]

The wording is pretty confusing tbh

[@crowsenpai5625]

7:39 Tip for new scientists: ALWAYS have a Geiger Counter on when artifacting. Many nodes LOVE to give out varying levels of radiation and it is a common silent killer in the Sci Department. Sci comes with plenty of radiation lockers that come with rad suits and rad counters, use them.

[@hedera1332]

Also, higher level energy release will often set fire to everything rather than be an explosion - it has killed my moff self a lot.

[@andrewgreeb916]

​@@hedera1332knowing how to manage fire stacks with a water bottle by splashing yourself and others or using a fire extinguisher is an important skill in ss13 and ss14

[@wraithdino1217]

@@hedera1332 good tip however, if the high level energy release is releasing radiation it will never be a firebomb. so you can use radiation testing to rule out the fire. if you test the energy release and it doesnt have rads then you should always put on a fire suit especially if your a moth

[@hedera1332]

@@wraithdino1217 Oh yeah, 100%. That's why I said it was a possibility lmao

[@shilohmagic7173]

or just wear the standard tissue radsuit compulsively. it has a built-in detector and 99% resistance to rads. it's the only damage type you can't bring someone back from.

[@ThatGuyUSA]

Oh my god, clarifying that one of the edges is a previous node it branched from is HUGE. I always thought I was just astronomically unlucky missing a ton of 50/50s! Thanks!!!

[@Floopiez]

Damn, he's pumping these out like crazy. Thank you bible-man of ss14

[@Liltenhead]

no prob

[@sagivcohen2331]

artifacts I think are some of the best game design in ss14. simple mechanics that lead to deep outcomes and possibilities. Cause you can just do the "give the artifact the thing that is written on the screen" and it would work and you will produce science, but if you take the time to really learn then you can do all kinds of things

[@noelka8134]

Good news: they are undergoing a rework right now, and as i can tell from the first playtest (which i participated in), it's gonna be even better than it is now. Not to mention that this is only the first part if the rework.

[@MWelind0]

Nanotrasen-mandated helpful and positive guides, as punishment for the recent slew of spicy guides.

[@Liltenhead]

MY manager said i had to

[@barty1995]

@@Liltenhead Now make one on fixing doors! As an engineer it took way too long to figure out how to actually fix doors, whether they were stuck open, stuck bolted, had been hacked to give wider access, etc. And I see a lot of newer engineers struggling too. It's the only way to balance out all the hacking guides.

[@kickthewhale]

@Liltenhead resident RD Moth here, thank you for boosting our average research pointsies output! NT is proud o7

[@WeibCorbinian]

Some quite important tips from sci main, since I see those mistakes all the time 1. DO NOT let the artifact get both phasing through objects and being sentient (you can choose to NOT activate the node to avoid all the BS that may follow). If it still happened, now you need a grav gun to get rid of it by yeeting to space. 2. Higher node depth means stronger artifact activation effect. If you are having a node reading of potentially explosive reaction on depth 3+, do it outside sci in free space and with either having a sapper suit or ordering a borg to do it 3. Some artifacts can ruin whole round by creating a tesla ball or singularity on higher depths, DO NOT activate it without a reallly good reason. Getting lols is not a good reason. 4. Read the damn scanner readings on the node reaction, not just activation trigger. It can end the whole department if you don't 5. You can use your pen to write down the exact reaction of the artifact on node printout (scaner readings can often be vague). If you have multiple artifacts, it's a good idea to write down short description of the artifact on the print and the number of parent node too. So if somebody decides to shuffle the papers (or it just happens due to things that take place only in sci), you can still restore the node diagram and keep working p.s. yes, I know it's boring, but getting your whole department or even station destroyed sucks even more

[@andrewgreeb916]

Artifact box can still imprison phasing artifacts, but good luck catching it, higher depth does drastically increase effect power. Station wide Destruction nodes should be self explanatory, yet somehow people seem to still trigger them, to the point the server I play on removed them.

[@XX-pq6cu]

Yeah I was ai and sci made a singularity the other day Very quickly ended our shift

[@gabrote42]

Word. I once ate a whole 70 u of noct from one. I didn't know you could write on the report. Will do that next time

[@conorjasper5814]

Screw #1 man, let me explore the station in peace. I ain't hurting anyone (besides the captain when I accidently activate a matter creation node and pump out a bunch of tritium while he was smoking in an enclosed area)

[@Pequid0c3rr4d0]

Oh noes, litten made an artifact video! Now everyone will be using artifacts!!!!!

[@Liltenhead]

Oh no, not science!

[@BSOE3058]

​@@Liltenhead FOR SCIENCE, YOU MONSTER

[@BSOE3058]

When Cargo gives you artefacts, don’t make research. Make Cargo take the artefacts back! Get mad! I don’t want your damn artefacts, what the hell am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see Quatermaster!

[@CoffeePowered]

"OH my god what happened when I was alt tabbed" hahaha yeahhh, science. That energy release node could mean that it releases a crap ton of radiation. If you want to know more there is a nice guide on the subreddit which was written by super smart and beautiful and humble moth scientist :)

[@sina2a399]

Could you give me a link to thatt

[@АдольфРозенберг]

link

[@gabrote42]

Post title?

[@MehnixIsThatGuy]

It can also help to label the artifact papers with their Stimulus and Reaction so you can just examine and go between nodes rapidly if you have all the tools to activate them at hand. There's also everyone's favourite artifact reaction: "Stationwide Destruction", domain of Depth 6 and above.

[@galewallblanco8184]

6 and below, no?

[@halyconer]

Glad artifacts finally got a spotlight, i think the wiki was a bit outdated

[@Burnalot87]

That actually made a lot more sense the way you put it. Thanks.

[@Glorgol]

Never knew what edges were thanks for this :)

[@Liltenhead]

Happy to help!

[@brandonrice1802]

The most horrifying thing I've seen so far is the way Liltenhead writes the number 9. I am now convinced he is a lefty.

[@BevvRatBites]

Like left handed or left wing politically?

[@brandonrice1802]

@@BevvRatBites The way he physically drew numbers leads me to think it's a result of some left-handed writing techniques to avoid hand cramps or smudging previously written words as you pass over them. I could be wrong. I had linked some resources that explain some techniques used, but I'm assuming the comment was deleted for having a hyperlink

[@BevvRatBites]

So theoretically, he could still be a leftist...

[@nineballmk2]

@@BevvRatBites ...how would it be left wing based off writing!? are you that paranoid?

[@BevvRatBites]

@ One must ALWAYS be on watch for evil influences, yes!

[@brandoor280]

"its honestly a pretty simple process" *brings out Microsoft paint* jokes aside good video, this is what i needed to finally understand these damn artifacts

[@thisguydiablo]

THANK YOU! finally i may have less dumbass coworkers now

[@Liltenhead]

I mean its a pretty obscure system, I don't blame people for not knowing it.

[@FairlySadPanda]

Should be noted here that this will go away reasonably soon; the "3moarch" refactor is functional on Wizden, but given the large PR load it's lower prio atm. That will see node display brought into the computer console and change how artifacts work so that artifacts are a set of unlocks of functionality which are then interacted to do so a certain number of times tied to durability. Downstreams are free to take a look themselves, it's really good work.

[@drunkengibberish1143]

These videos are a godsend for learning the ins and outs of ss14 and I have to thank you for being so dedicated to it! But I have one question related to an older video (of course this is for antagonist purposes only): When mixing clf3 for a flamethrower it keeps breaking all the beakers and jugs I use despite only mixing tiny amounts. Your previous videos show that the container usually survives this, was it changed?

[@Aiede71]

As an RD main, thank you for this. (Although my first reaction was "Fake science, no explosions.") Always good to have more educated artifact scientists out there whose health and safety I can trade for sweet, sweet research points. Just remember the unofficial Science Department motto: "If we knew what was going to happen when we pushed the button, it wouldn't be science."

[@hedera1332]

Now, in order to change branches, you need to activate the artifact at either depth zero set to UP, or at the end of a branch (so, edge 1) set to DOWN. If the bias on the analyser works (it doesn't always, which is why it can ocassionally go in the opposite direction to what it is set to when not at 0 or a branch) it will switch branches.

[@hedera1332]

Holy shit, this is the exact same way I draw my branches. Like, down to the box shape with the node and edge number! Only I also put down the stimulation and reaction next to it so that way all I need to do is use the node scanner and I know what I need to do to activate it.

[@andrewgreeb916]

This all makes a lot of sense now that you mention it. Real shame they removed upgrade parts which means the scanner will always be kind of slow. Artifacts can be crazy, had one with 18 nodes that made anomiles, bluespace parts, and blew up in my face

[@igobraz]

2:15 Flashbang! 👨‍🦯😎

[@Fanatator]

Also, please don't be aftaid to press extract button. There's a weird myth that pressing extract bricks the artifact and you are supposed to fully explore it first No you aren't. Extract button is important indicator that you went to a new node. Use it. Let other sci develop locators to go for anomalies with points you extract.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Only reason you would not extract is on delta v for glimmer management reasons, because all sources of research points make glimmer. As glimmer goes up you get more problems, some of these problems are part of the solution to glimmer issues, assuming you can catch them.

[@Firebat9876]

7:41 Typical Liltenhead Science round.

[@tablekun8690]

Always throw all the artifacts in the same chamber so they can activate each other, it wont go wrong - senior sci main

[@tulsatrash]

Thank you for explaining this.

[@mehonizer]

Noooo, my solo xenoarcheology shifts are over!!! Jokes aside, great vid, clarifies the basics of efficent artifact working, i would maybe even try to translate it for the RU community if a) i give enough of a damn b) if you would even allow that

[@someoneo-o3938]

the 590 drawing got me dead 😂😂

[@dasirrlicht5415]

Put Node Scanner Printouts on Floor. Artifact sets everything on fire. Science!

[@elliottprehn6342]

One could organize the node papers in a folder to look like a tree to help visualize!

[@danieldeak9141]

haha i once was an assistant researcher, we decided tto hit the artifact, it made a lot of foam that messed with our speech, then like a few mins later we all died

[@donk8961]

> 758 hours of research director Hmmm I think I will watch this entire video.

[@Denetth]

Instructions unclear, accidentally set everything and everyone on fire again

[@Warcrafter4]

They really need to change the Up/Down options to Backtrack/Advance(or Delve) to avoid the confusion. As it currently stands it doesn't say if it means to go up or down numbers wise or depth wise.

[@Mort4lD4rkn3ss]

There is one thing you didn't mention and I am now curious if my observation is correct or if I've just gotten lucky with every artifact I've done this with. On depth 0 with 2 edges (technically with 3 edges also but that requires more explaining) I've had Up and Down consistently go to different nodes. So if I start going down, I can go up back to 0, leave it on up and activate again to go to the other branch. If there's 3 edges at depth 0, my experience has been that up will consistently go to a specific node, and down will go to the two remaining nodes at random. This is assuming you haven't hit your pad with upgrades, as I haven't done enough testing with that.

[@ZoewithRose]

oh my god I finally get it now

[@jame358]

im not sure if this is the same on wiz, or goob. but on one of these station if you go too deep into the artifacts nodes it will turn into either a singulo or tesla.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Station wide Destruction? Wonder what that does...

[@HomerGunther]

The only thing i am still unsure of: Should i just be extracting every step of the way, or should it be done at certain points?

[@Liltenhead]

@@HomerGunther you can always extract

[@c0rnm3al]

as often as possible! just in case the artifact decides to wake up and walk away, never to be seen again.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Always extract unless you're playing on a server with expanded science stuff like delta v, because on delta v all research points made make glimmer and glimmer can become a problem if it gets too high.

[@VarenvelDarakus]

was expecting it to blowup at some point

[@Sen81222]

I use folders to help with node mapping going from left to right for depth and the different branches are on the up/down axis Basicly lookin smth like that X X N X N N N N X X X N Makes it more compact, easy to keep save and adds a bit of use and roleplay to it, sadly theres never enough folders around sci, if even any

[@XShrike0]

So do you extract at each node or after exploring however many you want?

[@imsoghost5924]

somewhat depends on the server you play on because letting it build points on the delta-v fork will get you lynched for spiking the glimmer like crazy but other then that i believe it is up to you

[@BobsterLord]

I see a lot of people waiting until they're done with the artifact to extract the research point value, is there a specific reason for this? Or is there no downside to just immiediatley extracting value whenever a new node is discovered.

[@Liltenhead]

nah just extract anytime

[@barty1995]

Some people find it fun to see the total "high score" before they extract, but otherwise there's no reason to wait.

[@BobsterLord]

@@Liltenhead Alright cool, thanks man!

[@andrewgreeb916]

Delta v has glimmer as something that happens as you extract, so you don't always want to there

[@noelka8134]

Lilten made an artifact video, it's time to merge 3mo xenoarch (which is currently in the state of "just a week away"™) and completely invalidate the whole video :)

[@xy2447]

all my homies hate node scanners, glory to mass down noding

[@punishedgwynie]

do you think you could go into actually activating artifacts? not all of the things you have to do are very self-evident, at least not to me. also where do you get more artifacts from?

[@defaulttoolbox]

cool

[@Jayahhhh]

I got singled out by an artifact and teleported into the arti space room, mid drawing a rune round start. Theres over 80 people and it chose me..

[@Fuzzylemonade222]

I did this once as a sentient artifact, but teleported the warops L6 Jugsuit right into the middle of the crew setup lol

[@IsmaliaSp8der]

Gotta run the DFS, am I right?

[@4dmost991]

For artifacts is better quantity over quality, get a lot of them and the moment one gets too annoying recicle or sell it then continue with another.

[@Liltenhead]

Don't always get that privilege.

[@4dmost991]

@Liltenhead thats why good sci combines both anoms and artis

[@andrewgreeb916]

​@@Liltenheadsometimes cargo is not helping, sometimes cargo is eager to help

[@mickmouse7771]

Guys the artifact is talking to me I think I’m going insane

[@Nogardtist]

everything is fine until you get artifact that explodes like a syndie nuke or better turns into an singuloose or teslaloose some artifacts turn to tools like a gun the most annoying part is life essence cause it takes time to get what is theraputic fluids i go to chem for some they give a jug with some liquid and it dont work tried tapping it on artifact tried to spray and throw it sometimes work sometimes dont gift anom is the best it should be a permanent anom just redesigned

[@andrewgreeb916]

Ah yes, station wide Destruction nodes whatever could that do. Pretty sure bicaradine worked in the past, I do not play science much now though.

[@Nogardtist]

@@andrewgreeb916 i almost got all command roles in wizard leviathan but i think to try other servers or sectors and i have more fun being a clown and cause EVIL then being captain the best in letancy seems goonstation EU west colonial marine is fairly popular

[@KalebKeough]

Ooooh so that how you science.... oops

[@deathkorpswatchmaster2414]

33 seconds 2 views? Ss14 is a dead game, back to ss13

[@Liltenhead]

Time for SS15 you mean

[@wolfblade019]

I'm sorry lilten. I cannot forgive your awful penmanship

[@Liltenhead]

@@wolfblade019 if you can read it then it's fine

[@gwagabogo]

Antimov unpowered guide. I cannot mess with air alarms as unpowered antimov. Tru story.

[@lolroflroflcakes]

I mean even if it’s a game can you really call yourself a science mans if your not taking notes about everything?

[@Liltenhead]

Well just expect those notes to explode or catch fire

[@fernando47180]

I cannot forgive your awful penmanship. Paint has a text function for moments like this....

[@Liltenhead]

@@fernando47180 ok

[@dovakiin296]

You didn't explain all the triggers or warn against some of the more dangerous results. Every single time I've ever played science I've died immediately to an artifact exploding or releasing deadly amounts of radiation or a hostile mob spawning. Other issues arise when you only have one chamber mapped and the artifact explodes destroying science's primary means of generating research points, and there's no heads of staff to grab the gold from the vault to make a new scanner. Science also doesn't come with half of the items needed to trigger the artifacts and explaining where you can get some of them would be helpful.

[@andrewgreeb916]

Engineering and salvage have mag boots and may share for your magnetic waves, radiation can be achieved by taking a small artifact and putting it into a microwave at the kitchen or get a single piece of uranium and make uranium glass, break it then rap cloth round the handle to make a weapon with a slight amount of radiation, therapeutic chemicals are from medical specifically chemistry...

[@imsoghost5924]

i would also like to state that with science department as a whole anomalies are rather easy to learn and keep contain via babysitting it should you have the personnel to do so

[@KittyCat827]

​@@andrewgreeb916 can also just use your epi pen on a beaker for the chems