SSBB OoT Demo any% Speedrun in

[@firstname3359]

I don't know what's crazier the speedrun or the fact that the OOT demo on smash brawl had the ending credits included

[@Madnessnunky]

It's interesting because the entire ROM is included and technically playable throughout, but Nintendo decided to simply NOT allow that. All the emulator people have to do Nintendo's job for them.🤣

[@Str8Stripping]

@@Madnessnunky I take it people have hacked it and played it entirely?

[@KamiSquad_X]

@@Str8Stripping of course. Just remove the time limit.

[@luisandre2750]

@@Madnessnunky Nintendo is easiest the best company in the world. Only thinking on its finals consumers.

[@NN-ix9wf]

@@luisandre2750 brown hands typed this

[@miher61]

A fact that I find funny as hell is that everyone there are celebrating and Ganon is still alive wondering where the heck is Link

[@HA-no3jh]

Ganon still talking to the king while Zelda is stalking

[@ssjmura1654]

Ganondorf watching this shit like, "Yo wtf is he doing."

[@Sylvee008]

Pfft call me ganondorf then, cause I don't even comprehend what I just watched

[@DerDrBach]

"...aaaand everyone is safe"

[@swaggin1716]

Dude got to be the King of Darkness for approximately three minutes

[@jcman-lp6lg]

and right after that "OHHHHH F******CK"

[@kayboi619]

and he went over him like nothing lol

[@zach.0]

Clearly they are playing it exactly as Miyamoto intended.

[@LennyQUMFIF]

Not only Miyamoto, But also Sakurai

[@johnpaulalce8739]

😢 3:50

[@EngineerMonkeyBTD6]

Nintended.

[@Vinnay94]

Nintendo releases half assed N64 Emulation for NSO. Speedrunners: Guess we'll just speedrun OoT in Brawl.

[@Chatisthisrealquestionmark]

speedruners are something else.

[@thomasmurrell9832]

Nintendo: lol they won't be able to beat it in 5 minutes Speedrunners: *Observe*

[@prizm9515]

The fastest version of OoT is the Brawl demo. Lol

[@tinotcg5815]

Switch be like... But what about me?

[@tinotcg5815]

Like no, go away Switch haha

[@cay7809]

@@tinotcg5815 the expansion pack or what

[@cay7809]

@@tinotcg5815 also wtf is wrong with the switch

[@bronyferienminuet2125]

@@cay7809 its a shitty emulator. It's half assed.

[@DJIronChef]

I have no words, i have no clue what happened i watched at work in silence. Just wow

[@chiefnase2471]

I had no idea what I was watching. Then it was over. It's just like watching Christopher Nolan movies. Only shorter.

[@NN-ix9wf]

Soda brain detected

[@notaadamritm]

You suck​@@NN-ix9wf

[@TheLegendJet]

To imagine not only is this beatable, but also so optimized lol dang

[@miguelcoronado816]

better than the switch version lol

[@gh05tb0yz]

@Geo M the actual game’s 5 years old (with no new additions since release), and this is the demo version on super smash bros brawl which is even older. i dont think there’s gonna be a patch lol

[@raracool6531]

@Geo M a patch for a demo emulator of a 20 year old game that’s used to fill up the storage of the disk of a 13 year old game?

[@joshualasseter6232]

He was clearly talking about a patch for the piss poor Switch version you dum dums...

[@No_Ones_gay_for_moleman]

I wouldn't call this beatable. It's more like activating the credits.

[@chrisrippy2288]

Ganondorf is probably singing Suavemente while they all celebrate

[@puzzLEGO]

navi: 'hey, listen' link: stfu I'm beating OoT in under 4 minutes

[@HandlebarOrionX]

It's so odd and kinda dope to hear the Lost Woods theme change instruments during the credits

[@beanburrito4405]

I actually like it better in some ways

[@Tronnbro]

I’ve played through the entire game a few times and still had no idea what the fuck was happening at any point in this video

[@SpookySkeleton738]

in short (I may get some of this wrong it's been a while, if you want to check look up oot srm on youtube) the game stores loaded entity data on a heap that's allocated and de-allocated per entity, when link is holding something it's constantly updating its position and rotation to be links plus some value (so it appears above his head). the trick involves being able to hold an entity that has been unloaded. different entities have different structures with different sizes so with the right setup this can allow you to modify function pointers in entities that get loaded in the future, which is usually used to execute a save name as code, with some more setups involving entity positions, rotations and links position and rotation this can be exploited to run more or less arbitrary code. the glitch itself is known as stale reference manipulation (SRM) but the technical term for the bug itself is called use-after-free or dangling pointer, and is more common than you might think.

[@brandogg974]

Ganondorf is like "We could be fighting to the death but you just playin"

[@PolymathicJ]

Never heard of any% speedruns before today, so this video had me scratching my head. After digging a little deeper, I'm impressed. Never would have imagined speedruns having such a technical side to them. Pretty wild.

[@steelooo0]

You should also check out the glitch% speedruns, they are whacky and impressive

[@AlphaSeagull]

Yeah generally all any% speedruns of every game are incredibly reliant on glitches and technical aspects, really anything that cuts down even as little as a few frames. In a majority of cases, RNG is also a significant factor. Getting an AI enemy that doesn't do what you want them to do or random drop that's less than ideal can instantly destroy your run. Pokemon Red for example, late game relies on repeatedly one-shotting every enemy in the Elite 4 with Horn Drill, a move with 35% accuracy. Miss too many times, the nearly 2-hour run is over. Speedrunning is probably one of the most dedicated kind of sports a person can do.

[@milkfish1605]

This is only the beginning!

[@anothergamer112]

That's something people don't recognize. I've seen too many claim these people are being spoilsports by "being disrespectful to the devs" for not playing the game as intended. They don't realize that speedrunners have to play as intended probably more times than all of us watching this video combined in order to pull off a speedrun.

[@animationpug149]

any% is just beat the game dont care how just do it

[@TiaguinhoMu]

名作トライアルでクリアとか すごすぎて笑うしかないし 発想も笑うしかない(褒め)

[@K3NnY_G]

Man, what a setup; not only being able to remember it but nail it pretty often is quite a feat.

[@Sora7414]

I love any% runs. I just watch crazy fast stuff not understand anything and the game just ends

[@MatrixEvolution17]

how does this work like how does that teleport you to the credits? I'm always amazed by these kinds of things

[@Savestate]

check out the explanation video in the description! lots of great info and context there

[@MatrixEvolution17]

@@Savestate will do! 👍

[@ryanmaddugal]

Ganondorf:" *HEYO LINK!! LINK?* wait a minute, DID HE STOOD ME UP? Was it something I said?🥺 LINK! I can change!"😭

[@typho6279]

Reminds me of back in the day when your friend would say that you need to play this and that note on the ocarina 5 times and jump backwards 3 times and press the d pad in all directions to unlock a certain part in the game. Now speedrunners do it, and it works.

[@SmooveShotta]

Ganon watching them celebrate like “am i a joke”

[@4_Freedom]

I am impressed. I was laughing my ass off when the trial expired 😂

[@Az4r0th]

You are a madlad and this can only be described as witchcraft. Awesome run though.

[@TheAdvertisement]

Can't beleive Twitter got pissed off over thing lmao.

[@wildfluffyappeared]

Inb4 someone finds a way to use OOT arbitrary code execution to somehow influence Brawl and improve the Subspace Emissary speedrun lmfao

[@coolbrotherf127]

I doubt that would be possible. The OOT file is loaded within a virtualized emulator so any changes to things with in the game would immediately be undone when exiting the emulator.

[@wildfluffyappeared]

@@coolbrotherf127 i mean yeah this was just a joke lmao

[@coolbrotherf127]

@@wildfluffyappeared adding "lmao" after every sentence doesn't make things a joke.

[@Outside998]

@@coolbrotherf127 It was obvious it was a joke, even without the lmao

[@callmevarez867]

@@Outside998 he’ll get it eventually

[@Quintwuzhere]

This is the most impressive thing I've ever seen, the amount of research, manual skill power, and audacity to accomplish this is legendary. Hats off to you friend, you did it.

[@hunterkline7972]

I can’t fathom what has to be done to force end game credits that’s crazy.

[@maxlefou]

I always wondered if the oot rom inside brawl was complete despite the little time they give for the player to play it... Seems it does.

[@Jormungandr108]

Gg dude I'm amazed there is a new any% oot category

[@daddykarlmarx6183]

I don't think this is considered a legitimate oot run but this is still the fastest oot has ever been beaten and under 4 minutes no less, truly an incredible feat

[@wesamc9333]

It's a legitimate run within the category of runs completed within the Brawl demo. Obviously it's not a legitimate run within other categories and isn't meant to compete with those. Btw I'm a big fan of your work on political economy

[@newchallengers9420]

So the left invisible grass in Lost Woods was the true king of Malice

[@Nobody-xe9fc]

This is almost as crazy as the Paper Mario ACE run.

[@abozarkya7901]

Hello! How do these speed runners know how to do these tricks with fish etc. I mean who discovered that and how?

[@Savestate]

Lots of research over the years. We have tools to look at memory and code so we can figure out how to manipulate stuff that would normally be impossible to figure out just by playing the game. A lot of people collaboratively put their effort into discovering different aspects of this kind of stuff also, definitely not a one person job (:

[@sajackson]

How do y'all even come up with this stuff? I'm actually curious

[@wade2112]

Last year someone discovered an input glitch that rewrites the code in the game based off of your input. So now the OOT Speedrun is based off of setting up the right glitch to teleport to the end

[@Savestate]

Lots of lots of years of researching building up on top of itself.

[@GreyWingedBird]

Interesting, but can't say I see the fun or attractive part in doing this at all.

[@Fireangel87]

@@GreyWingedBird it's absurd

[@randomboys1000]

@@GreyWingedBird coming up with creative ways to manhandle a game is very fun. and that creativity is worth appreciating

[@brunotheholefixer203]

Ha You beat Ganondorf without even engaging him. My mind is blown. Congrats. Good couple of minutes well spent.

[@jonathanvair]

Yet another change to any% lures savestate back to the grind

[@Savestate]

Do Not Hex Me

[@dryrub]

Anyone know how much of the WW game is on the oot/mq/mm promo disc for gc?

[@sajackson]

I've never heard of a collection that has those three. The promo disk has LoZ, Zelda II, OoT, and MM. Then there's the OoT/MQ disk. Is there a third one?

[@dryrub]

@@sajackson linked it but looks like it was removed. Its a gc promotional disc. When you choose OoT you can toggle between MQ and vanilla. The wind waker demo on the disk has 3 playable savestates with 20 min time limits each. Im dying to see a WW speedrunner break those demos and discover whats actually on them.

[@stopthisatonce]

@@dryrub Aren't you referring to the Zelda Collection that has Zelda 1, 2, OoT, and MM but no Master Quest?

[@dryrub]

@@stopthisatonce looking it up yeah, prob what im referencing. I could have sworn it had an option to choose master quest when you select oot but i might be crossing memories with something else. I have the disk, ill have to fire it up sometime to check.

[@willbowden6897]

I believe it's the full release but this is an excellent question

[@Cinematograper]

Amazing..don’t listen to haters ..this is 13 years in the making ..to beat Oot within 5 min of brawls time limit

[@baltakatei]

When your school bus arrives in 5 minutes.

[@emberthefox4951]

"Now we're all sons of dekus." -Some fox, right this moment

[@milkfish1605]

Subscribing to you for this quote alone

[@milkfish1605]

And what appear to be a quality selection of videos in your playlists

[@UNIFYDLight]

okay uhhhhhhhh that was super intense. All those movements seemed random but I know that stuff was on point somehow!

[@bbreimm]

So basically, the full game is in Brawl if you can remove the play time limit they enforce?

[@Savestate]

yeah ! there's even gecko codes to do this

[@aracuscesar]

Well it's like 30mb either way

[@TigeriPlaysGames]

well, yeah. they weren't gonna edit the rom to yoink out content and potentially break things and have to spend time and money bug fixing when they could just slap a timer on there. the roms included with the game are small enough that cutting then down further wasn't really needed.

[@cheeseisgood17]

You see it's quite simple. He did a wavedash to backwards bomb glide ---> back air into the credits

[@Squavez.]

Congrats! This is insane.

[@inthefle]

He is very good.

[@jamestaylor3113]

I have no idea what just happened but congrats

[@pimpingkek4947]

Aloha from Maui. This is awesome.

[@LinktheCommunistWaifu]

Link: Picks up nothing and holds thin air. Mido: Link, what are you doing? Link: I'm beating the super smash bros brawl ocarina of time demo.

[@tamertamertamer4874]

I didn’t know this game had a credit warp

[@GiovanniKody100]

Speedrunning OoT in Brawl is crazy. I’m so jealous!

[@zanyboi969]

The funniest part of all Is that the demo ends the SECOND mido's headass shows up

[@spaghettiking7312]

Nintendo gave the man a challenge, he completed it.

[@matts6827]

How tf does one even figure this out

[@Vinnay94]

Probably via Emulator

[@MasterCommandCEO]

How the heck does that beat the game lmao

[@superbman4088]

i don't even understand how that beats the game. he was in tunnels blowing himself up with bombs. I too am blown away.

[@shanez416]

Subscribed. Don't know much about speed runs, other than you are tricking the game to load/save code and using an impressive amount of memorization

[@majoraslayer64]

It blows my mind that people are able to pull off ACE without tool assistance.

[@Falcobird01]

I was curious how he was going to do it, once he got the fish I was like "Oh no, he has a fish!" 😂 The rest blew my mind though. I thought he was gonna crash the game.

[@Torbernight]

They*

[@pedroperez0208]

left ganondorf alive 🤣🤣

[@davidgn40]

People who've never seen speedruns that utilized glitches are flocking to the comments section now lol. Regardless, congrats on the PB and WR!

[@eliaki94gamerandmore]

I didn't understand you at all, neither because I threw the fish, nor because I threw invincible bombs xD but how crazy

[@ZonnexNecton]

How did folks are able to discover this?

[@DANNYonPC]

Absolute madman

[@pkmntrainermark8881]

Whoa, the Kokiri Forest exit is an actual part of the Lost Woods? That's so cool.

[@jpw1900]

Ok. Now do it on the Wii U

[@cmdshftx]

Good job bro! Awesome work!

[@s-h-r-e-d]

For everyone wondering what's going on: He's using glitches to beat the game. You're welcome.

[@EnchantedSmellyWolf]

A glitch that someone out there had to break in the game code to bind some faults to make this happen and pass it down by doing obscure behavior to trigger it.

[@kaipereirahernandez5196]

*they're

[@faby_baby]

He did it so quick too that’s crazy But what’s even cooler is that Jesus loves you and will fulfill you more than anything, I speak from experience, he wants a meaningful relationship with you, and you will find him if you seek him. Look up the abcs of salvation teenmissions on Google and it should be the first result, click what it says and read and do what it says, It’s not hard (and if it is ask God to help you), I promise you it’s more worth it than you could imagine. I’ll leave you with these verses… “that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭10‬:‭9‬-‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “And ye shall seek me, and find me, when ye shall search for me with all your heart.” ‭‭Jeremiah‬ ‭29‬:‭13‬ ‭KJV‬‬ God Bless you and may The Lord Jesus guide you and teach you as you live your life. I pray he does and you let him guide you. Amen.

[@shzuku5419]

Is this first time people are hearing about speed runs????? Geez

[@RyanAnthonyDigitalMedia]

I have no idea what’s going on here.

[@darkshado124]

Jesus Christ, It's Speedrunner Link! - Ganon, Probably.

[@newchallengers9420]

Link: messes up grass animation *OCD Ganon: immediately dies* Everyone: group $3x party 🥳🎉 🍆

[@hadesthegod9181]

Sorry Ganondorf, you lose. Be a man and admit when you’ve lost.

[@mayank4156]

Wtf did I just see? This is crazy.

[@mars7357]

Fantastic run

[@aaronfrench6062]

Did anyone know what the hell was going on in this speedrun?

[@luke2eckert]

no idea what i watched but it was impressive

[@2ndPigeon]

I'm sorry... did he just spawn the credits?

[@JakeHennett]

That is bonkers. I love it.

[@nofasciesallowed6213]

FRICKIN LEGEND.

[@lordkiza8838]

100 people who never beat the game before disliked

[@minimatterspodcast]

So many questions lol but why the fish???

[@flying_Night_slasher]

I'm pretty sure it's required for the stale reference manipulation required to get to the credits.

[@Savestate]

We need to load its code in memory for use later. The bombs and sword charge are so that it loads in a specific place in memory.

[@jwood9798]

@@Savestate can you elaborate on that just a little more? How does the memory of the fish get used later, and what is it about that memory that helps to trigger the credits?

[@Savestate]

@@jwood9798 watch the explanation video in the description ! it goes over all of that ^__^

[@Edrokski_777]

Why is Homeboy upside down @ 4:40....lmao

[@hadalwisp3075]

Part of messing with the game code to force the end I guess ..??

[@YOM2_UB]

Isn't that a normal part of the credits?

[@Luca-bel]

Idk how, idk when, idk where, idk s…why they did what they did, idk how come, idk.

[@GJBedrin]

i dont understand how this is possibly fun for them.. like its clearly not beating the game, its just glitching the end credits to trigger. i just dont get how anyone spends time practicing this stuff

[@Savestate]

watch "how speedrunners beat the brawl demo", it was a big puzzle for us to figure out and solving it was a lot of fun

[@robertderby5916]

Yeah of course he beat it in less then 4 minutes because most of the game is already beaten for him.

[@comradetab9291]

To be fair, OoT any% speedrunners have now beaten the game in less than 4 minutes from the beginning of the game as well (other than skipping the opening cutscene sequence, which is almost half as long as these sub-4 minute runs).

[@the_flipside_world]

Ganondorf: Wow, that was fast

[@tqft]

Who needs a storyline anyway....... haha. Great job

[@Brookz180]

I have never played this game and I have no clue what I just saw

[@meatwax]

Just seeing this game gives me the feelz

[@KoopaKid660]

Theres the iQue demo too.

[@ivanpreciado8266]

This is amazing

[@cchrisYouTube]

Congratulations

[@xXLegacy]

why does brawl have an Oot demo?

[@rob062388]

To entice you to buy it on the Wii Virtual console at the time.

[@Sabbalab92]

There were a bunch of demos for the VIrtual Console games in it. It was a clever move.

[@KeltonTitan]

So what exactly did he do that caused him to reach the end credits?

[@Savestate]

look up "how speedrunners beat the ocarina of time brawl demo"

[@Tully_is_Dead]

What the hell was that!?

[@g2worn92]

He did it…

[@W-xx-Dy]

New to watching these kind of things. Can somebody explain how it counts as a speed run when the game dosent start from the begining. Temple of time and adult link is way further in? Can it count as a speed run when exploited to reach final credits. I thought a speed run was begining to end in the fastest legitimate time? Just looking to learn here lol

[@Savestate]

The goal was "can we reach the credits in Brawl OoT?" and after a long time we're finally able to say yes, so we formed a category around it. If we started from the start, we'd only have 2 minutes of demo gameplay before the timer kicked us out because of the intro cutscene. The demo is separate from vanilla OoT and we chose to start timing from game start for it instead of file start since it corresponds with the internal demo timer and consider everything the demo gives us to start with to be fair game. If we arbitrarily put more restrictions on us then this wouldn't be possible. As for credits warp, the rules and goals are arbitrary. The OoT community has long accepted credits warps as a valid way of completing the game. Any% and All Dungeons both have credits warps at the end of their runs as an example. There's categories for vanilla OoT that don't use glitches as well, unsurprisingly called "glitchless". To qualify as a speed run, you just need a goal, rules, and a place to start and stop timing. Aside from that, anything goes.