Every Essential Fox Shine Combo (vs Top Tiers)

[@AquaticIvy]

Congrats on finally made it to 100k! I’m glad this channel is back. It fills a hole needed in the community.

[@SSBMTutorials]

[@Zr0ck79]

Just wanna mention that the covering of abusers in the vod examples doesnt go unnoticed and is appreciated!

[@upgamerFranzo]

Great video, I'll need to learn these. Showing footage from actual matches where these combos were used by top players was a very nice touch.

[@WastedFlan]

Appreciate all the effort taken to get example footage from unranked and tournament sets, I know that's always p time consuming haha

[@crisXD2010]

Best smash channel in KZbin, these guys deserve way more than 100k, top notch content

[@debarshimajumdar3942]

Great video Connor! Love how detailed this was. Could not have been easy finding all these clips for all the different characters. You put in a ton of work for this and it shows! Hope to see more videos from you in the future

[@changyanwang1625]

ssbm tutorials truly popping off recently, keep it up!

[@LT1]

It's crazy to see slippi and non slippi clips in the same video. The game just looks so much nicer in new clips.

[@lucalyons-sosa9843]

Foxes, waveshine Nair is a mixup at mid to high percent cuz they would most likely be DI'ing out to get as much distance off of the shine. You can condition a marth to do this and then waveshine Nair em and then it's an easy edgeguard.

[@koitsuga]

Man the connor vids on this channel are so good and don't have any hot takes in them, I love it

[@koitsuga]

Never mind there was a reactability mistake

[@SSBMTutorials]

@@koitsuga I apologize for the mistake. I promise I'm doing the best I can with the limited amount of time I have lmao

[@Pabmyster]

Connor the legend 🙏

[@henrybaxter9432]

Great vid I was looking for this exact video everywhere

[@jakezepeda1267]

I didn't realize you came back till today. Welcome back.

[@ericdraughn7426]

Amazing knowledge drop. Thank you so much for this hard work

[@aaronshi2582]

Thanks so much for the tutorial!

[@jespejo1882]

Connor this is an amazing resource, thank you

[@RedPandaSmash]

Aw. I was anticipating PAL Marth. Great video. I wish I had this back in 2013/2014 when I was active and learning.

[@SSB_Seal]

I am pretty sure no Melee scene in the world still uses PAL. It is basically irrelevant in this era.

[@Marko-mp1cu]

this is probably the most helpfull video you guys have thank you so much

[@5uitcase]

Next is gunna be a falco shine combo tutorial: Shine->imagination

[@flashburn117]

Nice video Connor.

[@jimb0blip]

Upthrow combos would be dope!

[@TheZoardfighter]

Could we get a video like this for comboing the weirdos? I'm talking of course about Samus, Yoshi, ICs, and Pikachu

[@courage_the_cowardly_cam]

And luigi...

[@SSBMTutorials]

yes I will do this - kira

[@cosmosa_bravo]

Awesome video thanks!

[@Jonathondelemos]

How about essential shines against top tiers with 80 ping

[@Lampaluile]

Double shines and drills

[@Jonathondelemos]

@@Lampaluile that’s assuming you even get the dash

[@abjoern]

80 is like offline?

[@Jonathondelemos]

@@abjoern if you are offline there is no ping between locations. So no it’s not like offline

[@abjoern]

@@Jonathondelemos no but there's no extra input delay and the max rollback is less than 3 frames, so even in the worst case, you'll still see the fastest moves like fox shine, so it barely ever affects gameplay

[@lucas56sdd]

8:20 lmao even trade

[@dustyafrojonson4510]

Lol fox does 800 inputs in rapid succession... peach pressed the yellow one down one time.. seems about right to me

[@treyhallmark5418]

Great video!

[@doomeyay]

LOVE U CONNOR

[@aidenhall4850]

this is fantastic, more content like this that enumerates combos and such are really useful. You could do one about kill confirms, for example: what kill confirms should fox look for against sheik at which %s?

[@SnakeMaster]

100k subs Pog

[@justingalin5559]

Great video awesome idea!

[@dostipos1]

Thank you so much for this video! I was just getting the hang of waveshine but I really didn't know how to use it in different matchups and it ended up being kinda useless (especially against falco).

[@somistyy]

Nah I'm still chaingrabbing falcon from 45 to 70, I only ever had like 2 mfs jump out of it lol

[@lakessbm]

Thank you so much!!!!

[@fukawadesu]

Defenetly what you need to learn about shine

[@LimitBlade617]

I'm a very casual player, and watching this makes me really want to learn Fox.

[@bmmedia3943]

such good content

[@dustyafrojonson4510]

Great vid man! Could you do something similar with falco shine follow ups?

[@yoyooo2008]

cool

[@gaidencastro9706]

SSBMT, what do you think of Gildedguy's Falcomaster Anime?

[@lambmaster27]

8:38 Why is MacD censored in this clip?

[@lambmaster27]

Nevermind, I understand now.

[@pavelrc5028]

How do you double jump out properly as Falcon??

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

I would assume wiggle out of tumble as early as possible?

[@SSBMTutorials]

Don't have to wiggle out of tumble actually, you can either time the jump well or use Up on control stick for a 3 frame buffer. Still have to somewhat time it though

[@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot]

@@SSBMTutorials That same buffer applies to the "wiggle out" where you just need one stick input to get out of tumble normally (without jumping out), right? Or am I misunderstanding? Are your inputs locked out if you miss the window early (similar to missed tech, for example) or something? I feel like I should know this shit after playing for as long as I have, lol.

[@smallsizeemerald395]

I don't think censoring MacD out of existence is the right thing to do. It just doesn't help in any way... Especially considering that he was one of the least dangerous individual who got banned during the purge of Summer 2020.

[@melee9183]

Shine JC usmash is actually pretty nasty against puff too

[@michaelbuffington7141]

Yes I want this

[@dimebag8550]

how tf do you jab out of waveshine???? I swear my waveshine is long enough but fox and falco are always too far away from me to jab them. please help me

[@SSBMTutorials]

try jabbing way earlier. most likely your waveshine isnt max length either but it shouldnt matter unless it's really not smooth

[@dimebag8550]

@@SSBMTutorials thanks for the feedback

[@Wiziliz]

A Falco one'd be cool.

[@Zzzlol94]

i clicked hard on this

[@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome]

yes

[@MrVideo-lt5qy]

Not trying to start anything but why is the guy at 8:40 censored? I’m just curious

[@nramirez0699]

Covering up those accused/confirmed of accusations of sexual misconduct. Don't need to shine any more light on em

[@sandros.6371]

Do more videos on mid tiers

[@metalparamivida]

At 8: 39 why is there a black square?

[@math8755]

Redacted

[@sektorackworth214]

I have a question is u-throw, n-air/b-air , u-tilt a true combo

[@SSBMTutorials]

it's possible to escape. If you're talking about against Sheik at low percent, she can SDI the nair up hard and double jump out, but she's still in a really bad spot. However most people will just get combo'd by this

[@equinox3861]

If Peach players were as good at SDIing as Wizzrobe that infinite wouldn't last long.

[@ddublu]

I know it's semantics, but why don't we call "short hop" hop and "full jump" jump, instead of having to qualify the height every time? Nothing to do with the video, just something that always occupies my brain whenever I think melee tech discussions.

[@theknee5590]

0:56 I think you got light and heavy backwards!

[@normalrachael]

nope, kira is correct. higher weight == less knockback, which for fox’s shine, means that they don’t take enough knockback to fall over.

[@jonathancangelosi2439]

you might be confusing weight with gravity. fox and falco, despite being fastfallers, have low weight. peach, on the other hand, has a slow fall speed but a high weight. fox and falco’s lower weight makes them more susceptible to being knocked down. a character’s fall speed is unrelated to their weight. weight also affects the speed of fox’s upthrow animation. this is why upthrow upair is so much harder to land on peach. fox/falco = lightweight, fastfaller falcon = heavyweight, fastfaller puff = lightweight, floaty peach = heavyweight, floaty

[@theknee5590]

@@jonathancangelosi2439 damn, TIL - thanks!

[@Pabmyster]

@@normalrachael this one is Connor, not Kira! ;)

[@bluelane]

Moar shine plz

[@lestacilo]

mario tutorial pleaseeee

[@eeveewithcoffee9554]

Hi

[@gabimeredith1]

Run shine upair is soooo good vs falcon

[@yoyooo2008]

heart me

[@The.Fool0]

+1 chatters

[@TurbinationE]

Assuming that the Puff has enough stage to do so, you can't reaction tech chase her off of shine

[@LosEspookys]

very lame thanks

[@milk4you1200]

Great video!

[@BusterKlondike]

Great video!