SSC 2023 - LLOD (Peach) Vs. Hungrybox (Jigglypuff) Smash Melee Tournament

[@vgbootcamp]

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[@byrne1807]

I hate when a vod length spoils results, it’s no one’s fault but I clicked on the set and instantly was like “there’s no way peach ever beats puff in 15 minutrs

[@bryanlilib]

I always actively look away from the progress bar, esp at grands

[@bryanlilib]

real shit tho

[@WesM369]

i know it looks sus but if ur on desktop add this as a browser bookmark and run it to hide the progress bar javascript:(function(){var goaway=".ytp-chrome-top,.ytp-chrome-bottom{display:none;}";if("\v"=="v"){document.createStyleSheet().cssText=goaway}else{var tag=document.createElement("style");tag.type="text/css";document.getElementsByTagName("head")[0].appendChild(tag);tag[(typeof document.body.style.WebkitAppearance=="string")?%22innerText%22:%22innerHTML%22]=goaway}})();

[@todipodi9479]

Beyond The Summit added 15 minutes of filler or something in one VOD I saw to avoid spoiling the results. It's an easy fix but it doesn't seem to be applied at all really.

[@brettmccabe1944]

@@todipodi9479I don’t post to KZbin so I’m not entirely sure how it works, but I think that adding filler spaces ultimately ends in less revenue because the algorithm sees that people not finish a KZbin video and leaving partway through = bad. BtS always just took that L and had dead space for grand finals sets for the best viewer experience.

[@alexelric7020]

I love when the hits match up with the music like at 9:44.

[@rannynihilius8481]

Hang me from the gallows but i just love the neutral between Hbox and llod every time they play. The Top 8 streak continues ig. Being a Hbox fan hasn't been the brightest thing in a hot minute but when all goes right it's more satisfying than watching anyone else for me tbh so i'll keep watching through the suffering just like i did for 2+ years until shedding a tear like i did at goml :)

[@benjaminjameskurz]

We will let you watch top 8 but then you will be hung. Thank you for your understanding

[@byrne1807]

I love watching these and I play peach you’re not crazy

[@debeb5148]

You kidding me dude? This was a fun ass match to watch. Llod popped off a few times and has a great grasp on hbox's neutral, then there's Hbox who is literally 2 steps ahead of the game everytime forcing Llod to play even better. This was a great set even tho it was 3-0.

[@samkittredge7353]

I love watching these two play! I think the MU has some of the better neutral interactions in the game.

[@shortesnameofalltime]

How the fuck is this set 16 minutes

[@geremynunezortega7346]

B-air

[@craiglanyon7752]

Puff is awesome, she is one of the best out of the original 150 Pokémon

[@gigaegad9770]

feels really disheartening to watch, llod does so much right but he just cant climb this mountain like he used to

[@rannynihilius8481]

llod has not beaten offline Hbox who is sadly just him taking his weights off. I think this set wasn't really bad to watch because both always play really juicy neutral and Juan just showed his improvent in MU.

[@deresands7411]

I don’t understand it really, but online hbox and in person hbox are just completely different entities.

[@gigaegad9770]

youre both right but i just want to be a peach believer so bad...

[@vzy8354]

​@@gigaegad9770as a huge Hbox fan, I would really like to see more Peach in top 8.

[@AlexDuWaldt]

My god. Turnip gets you NOTHING in this matchup.

[@MLIola]

i mean it can but hbox is built different in this mu, he forged it a decade ago and still dominates

[@firmyetflacid244]

​@MLIola Sadly, turnips don't really do anything. They can be used to control space, corner opponents, or get them to expend resources like jumps to dodge. However, u can't corner jigs and getting jigs to expend a jump doesn't do sht cause jigs can just waveland on a platform or grab edge to refresh all her jumps. Stitches can be a potentially boon but puff just doesn't have to really interact until the threat is gone and when compared to rest it's just sad.

[@roseros93]

1rd

[@TrevsTreehouse]

By far peach's worst matchup