St. Croix VICTORY rods deep dive! Did they get this right??? (HANDS ON)

Today we look at one of 2021's most interesting new entries into the bass fishing rod world, the St. Croix Victory line. I got my hands on a couple rods and put together some of my thoughts and opinions. I'm NOT sponsored by anyone, my reviews are 100% independent.
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[@vsthings4534]

Nice review. Been exited for this Victory rod Series. Cant wait for the casting rod review.

[@brandone9507]

This is a great video! Your passion for fishing shows. I really enjoyed it. Nice work!

[@victorsimonsen921]

thanks for the review lots of good info i have been waiting for this sounds like this rod line may be a winner the avid line has been my favorite will have to give these a try.

[@gavanchildress8516]

When he doesn’t know that 3/8 is less then 1/2

[@brucer9409]

@@jhorgos12 Yeah, it's funny, caught that too, but it's easy to forget NRX medium spinning rods have forever been 1/8-3/8 , 6-12#. For medium spinning they are lighter than most medium ratings, so Brian was really correct though the 872 wasn't a good example of his point. The Victory is just a notch higher at 3/16 - 1/2 oz.

[@patobrien9754]

Great informative video thank you.

[@johnsutherland5053]

Great review. I have the Daiwa Tatula spinning rod and love it so I can tell the new Victory will sell very well.

[@kenturner3268]

I have the model Tatula rod Howell used to win the classic in 2014 or so. It is a well built rod with nice components. Every time I use it for light crankbaits I am pleased. I just bought a new 2017 Tatula sv 103 for it.

[@tedlarrabee9278]

Very thorough and informative. It’s good to hear the pros and cons from a honest perspective. Great video!! Thanks!!

[@xyzman001]

That spinning 7'3" exactly what Im looking for! Thanks!

[@PunchFishing]

I apologize for stumbling on some things in this video. I said a couple weights wrong (yes I know 1/2 is bigger than 3/8), and I meant to say "nose hooked Keitech" instead of "nose hooked senko". I try to keep these videos raw and unedited on purpose. I find it challenging to do single take vids. I could edit out the mistakes and reshoot but.. I'm kinda lazy.. and we're just talking about fishing rods here. It's not that important!

[@MrShawnmg]

I am not sure why some feel the need to give you a hard time. I understood everything your said. Also, I don’t think people realize how hard it is to do these types of videos. Keep up the good work man! I have been intrigued by this new line but am still debating if I will get a Levante or Zodias for this price point. I am a Shimano guy and love my Exprides and Poison Adrenas but have thought about branching out with the Levante or Victory. Levante are hard to get of course, and I have a feeling the Victory will sale out quickly too.

[@nawinchester]

Dude, no need to apologize. You are doing something that other's won't do, so to them I say "xxxx xxx". You do a great job, are passionate about the topics you cover and cover things other won't / don't. Keep up the good work and keep the content coming!!

[@familybudgetfisherman]

I believe that you showcased the St. Croix victory rods extremely well. I learned more from you than I did the St. Croix representative in the tackle warehouse video.

[@ferndelisle]

Appreciate your reviews! One thing about the lure rating maybe it was one of the stumbles but 1/2oz is heavier than 3/8.

[@PunchFishing]

@@familybudgetfisherman hah thanks. Croix is really bad at their own marketing.

[@1977sanyi]

Great review!

[@richiecook2305]

I badly needed a new crank bait rod and I decided to get a Victory can’t wait to try it out! Since I lost my St Croix discount I greatly appreciate the code you gave 🙂

[@janosczovek8524]

Excellent review thanks you save me a lot of money 😃 how does the guide wrap's look ?

[@PunchFishing]

Really clean for once!

[@mellowroot714]

Best rod reviews on youtube, keep it up man. Ever try the Steez SVF AGS series?

[@PunchFishing]

no! I've handled them several times and almost purchased. I'm just not that into AGS guides. They shatter.

[@Morillon2]

You made me buy the 7'3 spinning rod. My dad tried it and he just ordered the 7'1 spinning yesturday. I was really surprised abut the rod. I own Legend tournements and this is a great bang-for-the-buck fishing rod. Paired with the Vanford 3000, I found the combo very versatile. Thanks and keep doing what your doing. Your reviews are great!

[@PunchFishing]

That is awesome! Glad you enjoy it.

[@fishing_amy]

Great review

[@arthurshowstead1157]

great video and very informative....i popped on the 7 3 spinning rod....ty

[@PunchFishing]

you'll like it!

[@StelmachsWorld]

Great video again! I actually like the softer tips of st croix. I find it helpful when there is more range of motion in the rod tip. It makes it easier to tell whether a fish has engulfed my bait or it was just nibbling. I’ve lost a lot of fish setting the hook too early with extra fast rods. Randy Blauket made a video explaining exactly what I mean

[@johndeluca1614]

Great review of a much anticipated new rod! That line sounds like it may be a real strong contender (best in class?) in the $200 price point. How would you compare the sensitivity, on a 1 - 10 scale, of the Victory 7' 3" Medium Victory spinning rod you fished to an Expride 7' Medium and the new Zodias 7' Medium? Please keep those timely videos coming!

[@ipsdrew]

I'm curious to see how this compares to the Zodias and Expride spinning rods as well. I love my 7'3" ML Zodias but It's been discontinued in the new Zodias line. Debating between the new 7'3" Victory or stick with Shimano and go with the 7' M for throwing tubes and small swimbaits/grubs

[@PunchFishing]

I wouldn't compare anything in the Victory line to the Expride.. Expride is WAY better but 70$ more. It's not a fair fight. Zodias is this rods competition. I've not personally owned any Zodias rods so I can't really make a valid comparison to the Victory.

[@chrisrus53]

Overall great overview but I do have to ask for a little clarification on the spinning rod lure ratings you were talking about. You knocked the Victory for only being rated to 1/2oz. You said a 7'3" rod should be rated to at least 3/8oz-3/4oz. You mentioned the NRX being rated to 3/8oz. I'm curious if you were off with with your fractions or just spaced that 1/2oz is between you're preferred rating? Again, great break down but that part confused me.

[@danielhoover9562]

Thanks for the review. I've been looking at these and plan to pick one up. Was excited to see your review this morning. Was trying to decide between the casting 7'3" H or MH for a jig rod any tips or input?

[@PunchFishing]

What size jigs do you like to toss?

[@danielhoover9562]

@@PunchFishing not sure if my last reply went through. Just got into jig fishing mostly 3/4 and under. Going to spend a lot of time this year on jigs and learning more though.

[@PunchFishing]

@@danielhoover9562 I think for 3/4 you'll want the 7'4 Heavy. I think that would be a bit much for the 7'3 H, but I'm not totally sure.

[@danielhoover9562]

@@PunchFishing Thanks for advise keep up the good work.

[@hanfei6871]

Just got rid of all my 1-piece before moving across the country... I think this rod will be a good new start for me

[@zachdam3974]

Great info! Which version of these Victory rods would you recommend for frogging?

[@PunchFishing]

the 7'4 Heavy

[@TheFishinAddict]

Hey great video, helpful info. I’m subbed. Im debating ordering the lite-weight spinning model victory now, or waiting for the Avid 69MLXF. Need an All-around finesse spinning rod. What would you recommend? Thx!

[@PunchFishing]

Id definitely go Victory over the Avid!

[@TheFishinAddict]

@@PunchFishing Great to hear! Thx again!

[@markweaver1857]

Picked up the 6"10 today. Had gift cards and put them to use. Thanks for the review.

[@J-Rod73]

Great video. Thoughts on Dobyns Rods and how they compare to St Croix rods?

[@mikeb9223]

The 7 3 medium spin is probably my favorite rod..amazing

[@shred5]

St Croix rods are always insanely light even at lower price points. The downsize is they don't balance as well as heavier rods (same deal with most light rods). Also the Mojo Bass and Avid and Avid X lines weren't overly soft, if anything the opposite even. I have no experience with the lineup beyond that, but I always thought of St Croix as being a bit stiffer than advertised as a result.

[@davidrauschenbach6871]

Thanks for the review, are the guides there micro guides? Or will a connection knot go through them better than the avid x

[@PunchFishing]

they are NOT micro guides.

[@andrewwolf4963]

they have these Victory rods in 7’3 medium and they even made a combo out of them with the Shimano Nasci with 15lb power pro and a buck tail rigged on it for 319

[@metalnorthoutoors]

Nice review. You have a Tackletour handle?

[@PunchFishing]

I do not! I post on Bass Boat Central though

[@MahykLTD]

I picked up a couple of Victory spinning rods. 7'3" MXF and 7'1" MF . Love them both. I paired one of them with a Vanford 2500 and the other with a Diawa Procyon AL 2500. I did my research via KZbin and forums before I ordered them (couldn't find one in store to check out). Your video was very helpful and like how you don't edit the honest information you provide. I also followed you on IG and appreciate the follow back. I'm a spinning nerd too 🤓🎣

[@PunchFishing]

Thanks for the feedback!!

[@Sk3rRR]

How do you like the 7'1" vs the 7'3"?

[@MahykLTD]

@@Sk3rRR I really like both of them. I use them both for all my finesse applications. But I use the 7'1" Fast more for weightless senkos, finesse carolina rig, ned rig. The St. Croix Fast action tip is a tad more crisp compared to the Extra Fast soft tip that Brian was reviewing. I use the 7'3" Extra Fast for drop shot, finesse swimbaits, neko rig. As Brian was mentioning in the review, the 7'3" XF has a soft tip. It has it's advantages with casting. But both have a good sensitivity and feel. I used all of my finesse applications on both of the rods just to see how I like the feel of whatever I'm throwing and they both do great. Just have my preferences on what I'd like to throw between the 2.

[@Sk3rRR]

@@MahykLTD good to hear! I have the 7'3" XF and I'm considering getting the 7'1" to replace my IMX-PRO 852s as I am not a fan of the grip! I think I might have to pick it up to test it out!

[@MahykLTD]

@@Sk3rRR I can't compare to the G Loomis rods as I fish on a budget lol. But I'm sure you will like the 7'1" Fast. It feels just like the 7'3" but a tad more stiffer tip.

[@darkleo5296]

Good review, I recently broke my old st croix legend extreme spinning rod and now thinking about getting a expride or victory and can't decide between the two

[@andrewwolf4963]

I’ve always found that the Avid inshore 7ft medium balanced best with a 3000 Fuego-Tatula, 2500 felt a bit tip heavy in the Ci4 and Vanford which I own in 2500 and 4000/5000 When I held the Victory it reminded me a lot of the Avid , where as my Avid X felt more like the Mojo where it’s stiff at least in MH

[@iriana1189]

What is your opinion on the shimano zodias vs the st.croix victory for senko application?

[@geezersbassin2567]

Great review. I only fish spinning rods and also find the Tatula to be great at it's price especially because of the grip. Love that St. Croix went with the same grip on this rod. Decided to try the 7'3" out. Thanks for the discount code!

[@PunchFishing]

I think you're going to like it! Thanks for the support 🤘

[@chaffiebombs]

I have 2 of the 7'1" spinning rods with tatula lt reels. I throw mostly wacky rigs, bitsy bugs, and xraps. The fact the I have 2 identical rods should dictate that I dig it

[@Ajblendz]

After a year with the 7 3 rod what are your thoughts on it. I want to pull the trigger on one. I need a finesse spinning application rod for my line up. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

[@PunchFishing]

It's pretty fantastic, I did an update video review on the rod if you look in my video history.

[@nealbearman2296]

I heard St.Croix is coming out with technique specific in the Victory Line throughout the year, would it be worth waiting for a ML 7"1" and up, for hair and light jig?

[@PunchFishing]

I hope they come out with a longer ML for hair jigs! Who knows though.

[@hunteryodsing]

What river were you fishing in and how would you compare the sensitivity to like a Avid?

[@PunchFishing]

The mississippi! I haven't fished an Avid in like 5 or 6 years so I can't compare. These rods are a huge step forward from that line though.

[@joeboilee]

The line that runs down the threads of the reel seat, that indicates the spine of the blank. When you build casting rods the spine of the blank is on the bottom, and the spine of a spinning rod is on top. That line is also the key to keep the hood of the reel seat from spinning all the way around the rod.

[@PunchFishing]

could you spin it around so the spine facing to the front?

[@joeboilee]

@@PunchFishing In rod building you can do what ever you want, but since this is a mass produced rod, it falls into how things needs to be assembled at the factory. The spine is also the weakest point of the blank in terms of dead lifts. Hopefully this helps gives you an idea of why things are built they are. kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6vMenqHZ61ogdU

[@PunchFishing]

@@joeboilee thanks for the info!

[@Howie_fish]

I picked up two at tackletrap. Used ur code too. Thanks 😊

[@PunchFishing]

thank you so much for the support! 🤘🤘🤘

[@Howie_fish]

@@PunchFishing are you going to do any review on rods with ags guides anytime soon or the near future?

[@andrewwolf4963]

Is it true it’s called SC3+ blank because they used some of their sacred SC6 in certain places to make it lighter and more sensitive

[@JustinC0219]

Would you recommend the 7' 3 spinning for throwing drop shots to shoreline cover?

[@PunchFishing]

it could do the job for sure! 1/4 to 3/8oz

[@julzy97]

Are you going to do a review on the new curado that's coming out this year

[@PunchFishing]

the BFS? hard no..

[@Armchair_Angler]

If give the choice between the 7'3 Victory spinning and the loomis 7'1 E6X spinning, what would you choose? They're both at the same price point but loomis seems like more of a premium brand. ( I do not own any loomis or st. Croix)

[@PunchFishing]

Victory every day, I don't care for the E6X line at all.

[@ryandoll3684]

These rods are sweet 🔥 My buddy just got the 7’3” medium spinning rod and you are right it’s super light ! I may grab the 6’10” model as it’s only 3.1 😳 That’s insane for the price ! And at my local shop I get all a heck of a deal on the warranty if anything goes wrong.I’m a st Croix fan for sure but also love my P5 Destroyers too

[@oTouchMe]

Got the 6’10” spinning rod, it feels as if I have nothing in may hand.... like I’m just holding a spinning reel without a rod. Nice stuff.

[@harolduriah6686]

I realize I am kinda randomly asking but do anyone know a good website to stream newly released series online?

[@dariancairo1821]

@Harold Uriah Flixportal xD

[@harolduriah6686]

@Darian Cairo Thank you, I went there and it seems to work :D I appreciate it !!

[@dariancairo1821]

@Harold Uriah Happy to help :D

[@thundergod2645]

Please tell me the guides on the victory are at least more durable than the ones on the mojo bass. I just ordered a 7'1 medhvyfast to replace my mojo bass because I bumped the top guide against the concrete and the insert basically crumbled.

[@KeatsKeats]

is the st croix 7'4 heavy rod good for throwing a rigs and heavy jigs? Also is it just as sensitive as the med heavy? Thanks

[@PunchFishing]

I'm not sure on a-rigs but heavy jigs most definitely. They are very tip heavy though.

[@MichaelRomero]

The 7'1 medium- fast. Spinning rod is rated for 3/16 to 5/8oz what's your thoughts on that option? I was thinking It should have more backbone and might be comparable to Brent Ehrler's Tatula Elite Spinning rod.

[@PunchFishing]

I'm guessing it will be even softer than the 7'3 M "extra fast". I haven't handled that rod quite yet but thats my prediction. Keep in mind Croix spinning rods (historically speaking) are typically pretty soft in comparison to their Shimano and Daiwa counterparts.

[@MichaelRomero]

@@PunchFishing I get what you're saying about the extra fast tip but it also says it can handle a heavier weight so I was thinking the backbone might be stiffer on the 7'1. You had emphasized in the video the point about it not being able to handle as heavy as a weight as the nrx.

[@georgemize9400]

If you were to compare this directly to the regular Tatula, like the one you have, what would you say are the key differences and which would you choose? Specifically, which is best suited for finesse tactics and which do you find more"sensitive"? Is one possibly better as an "all around" spinner? Also, which do you think has the better fit and finish? Thanks.

[@PunchFishing]

Man, for like $50 less the Tatula is hard to beat. There's something to be said for supporting Made in the USA products though. You really can't go wrong with either.

[@georgemize9400]

@@PunchFishing Thanks so much for the fast reply! Reason I ask is bc I purchased a 7’ M Tat yesterday (mostly for fishing Senkos) and am now wondering if I should take it back and get the Victory! Haha. I have always loved rods with a stiff backbone and fast tip for this. Seems like I’d be splitting hairs though. I agree about supporting USA products, but I’ve got a few too many hobbies and am only in the market for one spinning rod…probably for years to come. One other question if you don’t mind…thinking about pairing with either a Stradivarius FL or Davies Procyon. Any experience with these? If so, have you been more impressed with one or the other (or perhaps another in that price range)? Thanks again!

[@georgemize9400]

Sorry got autocorrected there: stradic FL and Daiwa Procyon** And final question (I promise I don’t mean to be annoying). Is there a significant difference between the tatula and victory guide diameters? I intend to throw braid with a fluoro leader. Would you anticipate any problems doing this with either? Thanks and I promise that was the last question.

[@GaryAnderson87]

Does the 7'3 medium have enough backbone to fish shakey heads or senkos around cover?

[@PunchFishing]

yes absolutely

[@t.a.4702]

It's like the new Falcon Cara's are really amazing rods however the are technique specific. They have a heavy rated at 3/4oz spinnerbait rod that Christie designed and a heavy frog rod rated at 1.5 oz. To me it's just a name, it more like a MH plus but super super light. I dont pay attention to names anymore of power but more what the numbers rating and taper is.

[@PunchFishing]

great advice, totally agree

[@tsuephinyang7920]

are these rods the ones that ben(from hooked up tackle) help consult with?

[@PunchFishing]

Hookup helped Croix design the Victory swimbait rods that are coming out later on.

[@HieuNguyen-ef1ko]

Got the 7’1” MH and damn it’s freaking sensitive. And and great great action. Light as hell . Buuuuut it is slightly slightly tip heavy as most st.Croix rods come. But other than that I’m probably buying another soon.

[@PunchFishing]

nice! thanks for the review

[@brettgagnon8448]

the 7'3 baitcaster sounds like it might be a sneaky good spinnerbait rod

[@PunchFishing]

1/2 could be money.. I'm gonna try it

[@bxcloud104]

I feel like that went opposite direction with their rod ratings. They feel one power down, hence how lightweight the models are. I was eyeing the 7'3 spinning too, but felt the tip was too whippy and it lack power for an all around "Medium " rod. I think if they released a MH with the same action it should be closer to the 872s in terms of ratings.

[@PunchFishing]

fair points!

[@stevenm6301]

Got my hands on them at bass pro today. I agree. Ratings seem a bit scatterbrained. The rod nicknames are dumb too. The 7'4 heavy felt like my 7'1 mh LTB. I won't be buying one.

[@jfrin3462]

1/2 ounce weighs more than 3/8 ounce so the St. Croix is rated for a heavier bait.

[@andrewwolf4963]

Lmao had me dying with the Corvette Camaro comparison because it’s so true but a million Camaro owners are somewhere cussing you out

[@bobfinch9681]

Love the rod, but it just blew apart fishing in Florida, $200 for 6 months, it's worth it, let's see how good the warranty is. Great review. Works well with Fl reel.

[@PunchFishing]

Sorry to hear that, which one blew up?

[@Jon-nz3dm]

Help me out with something...was using a Fury 735 for frogging over the last several years. I'd like to upgrade to something around the $200 price point that actually balances well and isn't a straight pool cue. I'm scared to venture away from Dobyns due to the massive amount of tip heavy rods on the market. Any suggestions? I know most "heavy" rods are much more stiff than the Fury "mag heavy" 735

[@PunchFishing]

Expride!!

[@Jon-nz3dm]

@@PunchFishing 7'2" Heavy? Balance is on point?

[@eugenejohnson8635]

Are they better than the avid x rods

[@kalecastaneda]

What’s more sensitive expride or victory?

[@chrisroose779]

What rod do you think is better for drop shotting the 7’1 m f or the 7’3 I also manly fish in kyake

[@PunchFishing]

I think the 7'3 spinning rod may be a little overpowered for drop shot, unless you're talking deep water with 3/8oz or 1/2oz. Great Lakes kinda stuff.

[@chrisroose779]

@@PunchFishing thank you for the info I have the 7’1 mf victory I thought the tip was a bit stiff for drop shot so you think it’s a good rod for it if not could you suggest a good affordable rod for that style of fishing I’ve never got a chance to try it yet all the lakes are frozen

[@zachhedrick9356]

How would you compare the Victory rods to the Loomis E6X series? I only ask because that is what I have currently (as something right in the same ballpark as far as price is concerned.)

[@kenturner3268]

All I can say is my 7'4" Heavy/Fast only weighs 4.2 oz. The new SC111+blank is no joke as far as being light and sensitive. It is lighter than the Legend Tournament but far better guides on the legend. Both of the 7'$" rods BPS had were flawed. I noticed the first one after I payed for it and the traded it out for the other one on the spot. Woke up the next day and went over it and it is far worse than anything I have seen from St Croix including the budget level premiers.I was really put off by it. Lost interest real fast.

[@MAB1907]

I’ve been waiting on a replacement rod for 6 months, the rod I had broke 15 inches from the tip I took pictures and sent them in and paid 50.00 for shipping and that was 6 months ago, when I call they say it’s on back order and it kinda gets pushed back… any help on getting a rod from them would be helpful !!!!

[@WarEagleTheBest]

Do you know when the rest of 25 models specs will be announced?

[@PunchFishing]

No, great question though.

[@WarEagleTheBest]

@@PunchFishing can you find out please?

[@hkl378]

What I heard is at ICAST. This is what my seller told me.

[@chefmatt6299]

Ok so with them adding a lot of the same technologies like ART, etc is it still worth getting the Legend X/Elite rods over this?

[@PunchFishing]

Entirely deepens on your budget! Does anyone really know what any of those technologies do? I sure don't. The big thing with Legend X is you're getting Torzite guides.

[@chefmatt6299]

@@PunchFishing The ART is basically the St Croix X-Wrap, no?

[@dougkennedy1111]

So if you we’re going to spend $200 on a rod would this be your choice or would you go with the Levante line at the same price

[@PunchFishing]

Great question! They are both pretty amazing. I guess you have to ask what actions you're looking for (WAY more offerings in Levante currently) and how important is the warranty to you? Megabass warranty is much much worse. Levantes win in the looks department hands down.

[@dougkennedy1111]

@@PunchFishing I love your reviews. Down to earth and really appreciate your comments. Warranty at that price is probably less important than looks and function. I am trying to upgrade my rods in a few of my main areas. Picked up NRX 893C for flukes with a metanium. It really won’t cast them. Looking for a good rod to fish flukes with a regular or heavy wire hook

[@ChairmanMeowBurger]

@@dougkennedy1111 That's very surprising to me, because the NRX 893 paired with a Metanium or Aldebaran/Core 50 is my dedicated weightless fluke fishing setup lol.

[@livinglife3230]

@@dougkennedy1111 I have that nrx 893 & I’d never consider fishing a fluke on it, a little to long & stiff. The 2020 Metaniums are great reels but I use the alde mgl as my dedicated fluke reel & it performs flawlessly

[@Texasbroski512]

I have 2 mojo bass baitcasters 7'1" medium and 7'1" medium heavy and im looking for a heavy

[@andypaulson3459]

Any chance this would make a good Jigging rap rod? I know you occasionally go after the walleye. That 1/2oz limit on the spinning may be limiting. Looking for something to detect slack line bites as I yo-yo back to the boat it 20’+. Any other suggestions?

[@PunchFishing]

depends on the size jigging rap, but I think this rod would be fun to use for that

[@andypaulson3459]

I’m usually in the #7-5/8th size. Was originally looking at the 752S but tough finding the right action for the heavy weight and small treble hooks

[@andypaulson3459]

Sorry 872S

[@xCruZChaos]

@@andypaulson3459 man give the 7’ Medium expride or zodias a try. Both are wicked jigging rap rods. Also the 7’ M Daiwa tatula is sweet for those heavy raps.

[@andypaulson3459]

@@xCruZChaos Thanks. Enough sensitivity there to detect bites when they hit it on slack line?

[@chadwoodward2402]

From what I've heard from St Croix when I've talked with them is they under rate their rods on purpose because they know people will over weight them. If they go right to the max then someone will over weight the rod and potentially break it on a cast. I've sold St Croix in the shops I've worked at for over 20 years.

[@PunchFishing]

That makes a lot of sense.

[@drunknnirish]

I really wish that spinning rod was rated up to 3/4 oz, was 7'6", and had a full handle.

[@victorsimonsen921]

do you think these rods are more sensitive than the avids?

[@PunchFishing]

I haven't fished with an Avid in many years, but this rod is a big step forward.

[@vitod7034]

Just got a Victory 7'3" MH Marshall Casting based on this review since I wanted to try a St. Croix and support an American made rod. Boy is it tip heavy, This made me overlook all of the good qualities of this rod like the nice cork and build quality. I have tried pairing it with my 2 heaviest reels being Quantum Smoke S3 and the Curado K and this thing still balances around 2 inches from the reel seat. I haven't even taken it out on a water yet and already think I'll be sending it back. My $200 Cashion Icon and Shimano Zodias run circles around the victory in the way they feel and balance. St. Croix really need to figure out how to balance their rods properly if they want to compete in this price segment. There are alot of quality rods in the $200 -$250 price point. Just to name few that I own and used for a number of years Cashion Icon, Shimano Zodias, ALX Zolo, Phoenix M1, Denali N3 (also a bit tip heavy but after handling them both Denali is better balanced than the Victory).

[@mouaem1]

Legend xtreme is too soft? Isn't it the same blank as the legend x and elite?

[@PunchFishing]

Nope, they are totally different. They feel like walleye sticks (to me). I've bent the same power/actions in the legend x and the legend Xtremes in the store and the Xtremes are much softer.

[@mouaem1]

@@PunchFishing wow, good to know! The website says scv and scvi on both so I just thought they were the same. I really wanted one of these victory rods to try but I just jumped into the deep end of kistlers to try out a z-bone so I'll have to wait. Hoping I won't regret it since it's my first kistler. Thanks for all the cool rod reviews always.

[@Xng88]

Would u recommend the victory over the premier?

[@PunchFishing]

YES

[@Xng88]

I just bought the legend tournament MH 7'1 so light pair with my Daiwa tatula LT 2500 series

[@stevenm6301]

You should have said you hate the legend tournament bass rods in the beginning so I would have realized we won't agree on anything! Ha! But still, good stuff. Thanks for the run down. I will be passing on these.

[@PunchFishing]

LOL! I've owned like 6 LTBs over the years and I've sold em all. I gave them a good opportunity! The balance is just so so bad.

[@stevenm6301]

@@PunchFishing I don't mind the little bit of tip heaviness for the way those 2018 redesign reel seats fit my hand. Incredibly comfortable. And I use a heavy revo so it balances good for me. Wish I would have known you were purging the collection!

[@willperryman4559]

Sometimes you talk a million words a minute,😂 I appreciate your review,but I’m not sure the weight rating on the spinning rod🤷🏻‍♂️ is it up to a 1/2oz ? Or 3/8oz . I think we get spoiled with guides, but, I look at guides on my OG Loomis rods and I don’t mind St Croix putting a standard Fugi guide on a $200. Spinning rod that compares to the NRX 872S ($580.) pretty cool 😎 Thanks again for the reviews 🎣👍🎣✊

[@PunchFishing]

it's rated do 1/2, I would have liked it even better if it went up to 3/4.

[@familybudgetfisherman]

How does the Saint Croix victory compare to the Shimano Zodias?

[@PunchFishing]

In what regards?

[@familybudgetfisherman]

@@PunchFishing Comparing sensitivity, stiffness, tip softness/hardness, comfort of the handle, and overall ease of use.

[@PunchFishing]

@@familybudgetfisherman this rods definitely going after the Zodias, however I haven't personally fished a Zoadias (I jumped into Expride) so I really don't feel like I can say with any authority how the victory compares. I think it really comes down to personal preference and what your looking for with a warranty and where the rod was made.

[@kmac1715]

7’3” MH on the way, thanks PUNCH10, 182.50$

[@PunchFishing]

enjoy!!

[@mikeadams4605]

I have two St.Croix, built in the US...Premier series spinning rods....If I am spending $130-$210 and an additional 7-foot medium power, fast action spinning for Bass fishing what Brand and model should I buy? Was thinking this Victory would be a nice upgrade from my Premier.

[@PunchFishing]

The Victory would be a really nice upgrade from the premier!

[@mikeadams4605]

@@PunchFishing Thanks!! I picked up a Victory Med-Lite Spinning with Extra Fast tip to use as a Ned Rig rod this week....Going to try it out this weekend.....it's a nice upgrade from Premier.....plus I get to buy USA made with a 15 yr warranty

[@glenndaugherity6187]

Would you recommend this rod for spybaiting ?

[@PunchFishing]

it could definitely do the job

[@nawinchester]

okay, so here is the real question, you can only have one, the 7'3" Tatula or the 7'3" Victory, which do you choose with respect to sensitivity, action and fishability (weight, casting performance)??

[@umdivx]

My vote is Tatula mainly for their no questions asked free warranty. I've sent in two rods and they replaced both no questions for free. St. Croix isn't free.

[@PunchFishing]

Honestly you can't go wrong with either. You're paying more for the Croix to support US workers so that's something to consider.

[@nawinchester]

@@PunchFishing to your point in the video, the 1/2 rating just isn't enough for me to make the plunge, as I have a few other rods in that category already covering those weight ranges. Interestingly, both the Croix and the Tat only go to 1/2 oz, so I think I will keep looking for something up to 5/8 oz maybe 3/4 oz.

[@rapalaman6681]

Since the Tatula is made in China and the Victory is Wisconsin should make a quick decision for hopefully most fishermen. I believe the Victory is a TRANSFERABLE warranty?

[@TygerByte]

@@umdivx I’ve had to use the st croix warranty twice. Both times I only had to pay for $25 shipping fee.

[@nicknush1630]

Great review! I'm looking at the 7ft 6in medium zodias and the 7ft 10 in medium lite Victory spinning rods. I'm looking for a rod that can launch 3/8 oz spy baits and 1/8oz ned rigs in Open and clear water. Im mostly bank fishing a clear lake for bass and trout. Im looking for something in the $200 dollar range. What would you recommend? Or is there another rod you recommend. I would be putting a 3000 vanford on it. Thanks!

[@ChocoYGO]

Didn't think much of the Victory line until I watched this vid. Might have to pick one up eventually given how similar they are to the NRXs. I own 2 of each NRX model you compared these to and I use them each time i go out. These could be nice kayak rods as I don't really want to take my NRXs out until I get comfortable on it.

[@PunchFishing]

they would be great kayak rods

[@jameslyman1377]

Still using this rod? Having any problems with it?

[@mgd2040]

Would you take victory over avid x?

[@PunchFishing]

Yes, i'm not a fan of the micro guides.

[@mgd2040]

@@PunchFishing thanks!

[@touaevang]

The technique specifics names are confusing.

[@PunchFishing]

1000% ignore them... st croix just needs to knock it off. They ain't Megabass. Don't name your rods.

[@matthewlukas1189]

I just want to point out that the 1/2oz lure rating of the Victory is greater than the 3/8oz of the NRX. 3/8 is less than 4/8, and 4/8 would be equal to 1/2. Great video though! You sold me.

[@PunchFishing]

yes I'm well aware that I misspoke on the weights. see the comments 😬

[@matthewlukas1189]

@@PunchFishing Didn't see the other comments. Anyways, again great video. Best review on these rods that I've seen.

[@dewaynethomas3258]

Can you use these in saltwater

[@PunchFishing]

I don't see why not

[@stuartweiss5141]

I like their rods but I always have their butts extended. Too short for me and the balance feels off.

[@seanhung14982]

This vs an expride? How much sensitivity do you lose?

[@PunchFishing]

I don't think it's fair to compare this rod to the Expride. Expride is $60 more and has better components. Expride will always be better. Victory is going toe to toe with Zodias.

[@Brenden799]

Yeah but didn’t you just compare it to the expride and the Nrx in the video?

[@PunchFishing]

@@Brenden799 I was using them as examples of weight and action. I wasn't saying anything about which one you should buy or which is "better". It should be obvious that the NRX and Exprides are better rods.

[@Brenden799]

I get what your saying. But I don’t think he was asking what rod was the better rod. He was just asking how much sensitivity you were loosing going from the Expride to the St Croix

[@PythonDad]

I really wish they'd just announce the rest of the damned models. I'm interested in filling some gaps in my arsenal with these, but if I knew they aren't going to make such-and-such models, I could just get something else that is already on the market.

[@PunchFishing]

I have a feeling it'll be a while. All the rod manufacturers are really low on Fuji components.

[@PythonDad]

@@PunchFishing Yeah, as far as release date, that makes sense, but surely they know what they plan on making, right? lol

[@jessieosborne3576]

You don’t like Dobyns? I seem to try other brands to go right back to Dobyns.

[@PunchFishing]

I'm kind of ambivalent with Dobyns. I don't hate them but they don't excite me.

[@jessieosborne3576]

@@PunchFishing I’m that way with st croix. Never had a bad one but never had one that just amazed me either. I love the feel of megabass but I have broken so many of them it’s not worth it anymore for me. But a lot of it is where you fish as well. I’m TN river guy.

[@justinbiggs7729]

Why don't you like the Mojo series of rods?

[@PunchFishing]

I don't dislike them, I just don't think they are that compelling.

[@kurtcer]

You do know that 3/8 is LESS than 1/2 right?

[@robcarey4189]

Despite the numbers, they did not feel light and balanced in my hands. I drove to the shop because they got the display rack...I was not impressed.

[@PunchFishing]

Balance isn't really St Croix's thing.

[@tylerbugbee4779]

Sounds like you wanted the 7'4H

[@PunchFishing]

I've had a bunch of 7'4 H st croix rods over the years. I purposely bought the new tapers.

[@bittabrutha31]

Yep they break !!! This knucklehead was showing me the taper in Fishermans Warehouse and snapped it 😆😆😆

[@paulscozzari1787]

I don't like the handle on the Victory spinning. I have big hands and when I grip it in my hand half my hand ends up on the rod blank and not the handle. My old Mojo bass is much better, handle wise.