St. Patrick VS The Irish Pagans || Pagan Happy Hour

[@alan_mythicalgnome]

I too missed the live version, but I enjoyed catching up and hearing about the pagan connections with Saint Patrick day celebrations. Here in England the Irish pubs are definitely bachanal and enjoyably wild on this day. Nothing like it !☘️

[@shelcatvintagec6159]

I am 35% Irish and from the deep south . Being Pagan and living in an area steeped in Christianity has been extremely difficult my entire life! As a child i was forced too attend a Christian church. Even then I always felt something was out of sorts. The use of scare tactics and fire and brimstone are used immensely here within the Christian community… . Many of their own members who struggle too feed their families are encouraged and taught too still pay thyes every week to the church!! Yes some Christian organizations do have food banks etc.. however they are tax exempt, the pastors are often well paid and live in the commicary or are provided a home and with a vehicle. We all have the choice too practice and believe as we feel fit for personal life. I am however so glad that you mentioned how the Christian , Catholic and other Abrhamic religions still preach and teach their followers too give money on a regular basis! The followers are told they will reep a bigger benefit or blessing in their lives for giving the Lord money ?!! Yes i am aware some churches do have programs in place in their opinions is beneficial too the community. In my opinion and having witnessed it myself more often than not its all about scary stories, condemnation, belittling, demeaning and acclimation of their followers. In the Christian world money is power ! I feel in the pagan community knowledge is power ! Think for yourself, ask questions, research, and never believe everything youre told. you have a mind explore it . If something feels wrong or uneasy with in your self question it and make you own decisions!!!

[@maisygracey9928]

My parents or the church always used to lie and say that money goes to the poor... when it really doesn’t.

[@Jmmoffa]

@@maisygracey9928, they might not have lied to you because a lot of people don’t know were the money they give to the church actually goes.

[@deewagner4817]

It is unfortunate that Christianity has become so corrupted from its original mission: unconditional love. The days are coming when Christianity in the US will become small and marginal. The repressive, anti-democratic politics of many Christians will only accelerate the decline of Christianity. I'm convinced that in twenty to thirty years, Pagans and agnostics will outnumber Christians. I say these things as a Christian myself who does not necessarily look forward to a world where I have no community of faith (community is my reason for being Christian). I could always go back to Pagan, but then I'd still lack community that meets regularly. In the future, when I'm old and alone all the time, then I will know that it is my time to pass away. At least I believe in an afterlife in which all beings will be brought together: animals, mortals, Gods, everyone in community!

[@mylife-23]

@@deewagner4817 become? It's always been..... Look at history, it's nothing but bl--dshed from Christians against pagans & magick users. (Censored cuz KZbin)

[@mylife-23]

@@deewagner4817 Christianity is one of the biggest religions in the world and dominate politics, they're not going anywhere anytime soon.

[@Master_Blackthorne]

So Patrick tried to convert the Irish by sneaky and underhanded methods. What else is new? The Irish were illiterate and easily deceived. The Celtic cross is actually a sun symbol as the snake was a symbol of wisdom ("Be as wise as serpents and as gentle as doves." Mathew 10:16). Equating a serpent the devil came much later and was often confused with a dragon. Cernunnos the Celtic Horned God was often depicted with three faces or a trefoil (shamrock) on his forehead because triplism was considered very popular among the Celts and Patrick most likely used the concept to convert them to the doctrine of the trinity. The druids had contact with the Pythagorean philosophers in Ancient Greece who taught the number three was very powerful. BTW that's a very good way to celebrate the holiday by enjoying Celtic things and learning more about the Tuatha de Danann. We Pagans of course know about the Greco-Roman deities and the Egyptian ones but our knowledge of the Celtic gods and stories is sketchy. The Celts have a very rich culture. Of course, a nice pub glass full of Guinness makes the learning a lot smoother. That reminds me, I'm running low on stout. I was REALLY studying on the Liberalia!

[@Master_Blackthorne]

There was a small community of Irish monks in my neighborhood and they were very kindly. They held an Irish Fair to raise money for repairs to their roof (that's always the first thing to go). We gladly gave them a donation and bought some of their goods. After all, the Celtic element in The Craft is very strong and they were selling some cool Irish stuff that their parishioners had donated.

[@jamesdevine6452]

Missed the live chat as it was a bit late here in Dublin but very interesting. At present St. Patrick's day is seen more and more as celebration of our Irish'ness much like 4th of July in the US. And we have inherited much of the celebrations parades and greenness from the us and those that immergrated there and then returned. The churches power and influence is dwindling here so it's much less about the religious aspect for most as it as a day off work to party. As for me I tend to head up to hills for the day and use it as a day to enjoy spring and nature. Finally as side note from next year St. Brigits day will also be a public holiday here. As a way to honor the strong influence she has begun to have on many here and also as way to honor the victims of the pandemic and all those that cared for them mostly women nurses, carers and doctors which is cool.

[@leonardjames672]

A Viking talking about the Irish, what a great start to the weekend/year! Couldn't use SuperChat today, so Sorry.

[@acmulhern]

When it comes to disability, Celts were much more supportive than other civilisations of the time. There are many disabled and elderly people who were buried, which means they would have supported and raised them. The romans and greeks often killed babies who were very disabled, so they had a very different attitudes.

[@whatabouttheearth]

Where is the source for this? The majority of what we know of ancient Celtic cultures is from Romans who were obviously baised. Celts did not have a cohesive culture since Celtic is not an ethnic group but a language group, they spread from Anatolia, the Alps, Brittany, Amorica, Iberia up to Ireland, Scotland and Britain.

[@acmulhern]

@@whatabouttheearth Yes, they were spread out but they had a huge network that connected them for trade, marriage and culture. And yes, there are remains of adult people with disabilities, which means they weren't killed at birth like Roman or Greek babies, so the attitude towards disability seems to have been different.

[@genghisgalahad8465]

A vital and important topic for more in-depth discussion on Happy Pagan Hour! About St Patrick and The Druids in Ireland! Good question on what the snakes in the history signified!

[@celineaube1742]

Living in Dublin so even if i'm not celebrating St Patrick's day, the celebration always come to me ! 😁

[@parabot2]

Saint Patrick is a complete fiction , we even know who came up with the fake cover story . The Bishop of Sleaty hired a scribe named Muirchú moccu to create a fake character for Irish christianity . He was created as a cover story for the massacre of the native Pagans and Irish Druids and the forced conversion of Ireland to Christianity . We even have the stories of Croagh Patrick and the casting down of druids of the Crom Cruach . ( This was mass murder ) Meanwhile in cross patrick Saint Patrick had a run in with the druids , again Mass murder . Saint patricks magical fire at Tara , well that was Tara and hundreds of years of Irish Celtic history destroyed in one go . He never existed , the story was just that a cover story for the Genocide of the Irish and forced conversion to the Middle Eastern Abrhamic religion . Those Celebrating Saint Patricks day are Celebrating the massacre of their Ancestors and Tribal traditions.

[@celineaube1742]

@@parabot2 What I think is a lot of people are well aware about that history and a lot of people just want an excuse to drink and party and take advantage to bring tourists. It's like the 14th of July in France : most of the french people just think about a "party day" with champagne and fireworks and don't remember about the Bastille. I am french and i'm not celebrating St Patrick day like i'm not celebrating 14th of July because those celebrations are not resonating with me that's all but living in Dublin, I hear the celebration, I see some fireworks and I like fireworks, those for halloween or new year too even if I'm not celebrating those days like others do

[@KellyLouiseBrown]

I love the Irish Culture. I found found Irish people so friendly when I have holiday there. I love alot of Irish Music :)

[@MichaelMalxAlexander]

My birthday is on Saint Patrick day. I'll be 40 this year lol I like to call it st. Michael's day

[@WillowEtain]

It’s my birthday too!! I will be 53, happy birthday 🎂

[@MichaelMalxAlexander]

@@WillowEtain happy birthday to you as well! :)

[@mirandaleybourne]

I am a very small amount if Irish by genetics, but my father was adopted by an Irish family so I feel really connected to it!! Thanks for the great video.

[@peach411]

Had to miss it live but enjoyed the replay!

[@shuu549]

I love these series❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@carmelodriscoll6155]

I have to corrected you Scarlet when you said that here in Ireland we celebrate St Patrick’s day in a more family and religious celebration. A long time ago yes but in today’s society, no. We no longer celebrate St Patrick’s day in a family or religious way. I’m in my 50’s and as a child it was always about the parades and of course people having a good time in the pub. The catholic religion is dying here in Ireland, churches are closing and there’s not a lot of priests here like there use to be. The Irish celebrate St Patrick’s day as a day off work, a party and an excuse to get drunk, most people here in Ireland don’t really care about Patrick himself. Personally as an Irish Pagan I don’t celebrate this day but it is part of our history and if people want to celebrate, I say go for it 😊 Another thing, just for people who don’t know, Britain is made up of England, Scotland and Wales. (And Northern Ireland). England is NOT a Celtic country only Scotland and Wales. And most Scottish and Welsh people prefer to be referred to as Scottish and Welsh not British and I was told that by a Welsh friend of mine. Great video Scarlet 😊 you certainly put in a lot of work for your videos ☺️ Thank you.

[@alan_mythicalgnome]

Some years ago I was part of a spiritual (ist) development class. We did a lot of field trips and discovered many stone circles and sacred sites in England and Wales. Both regions were equally influenced by the Celts and the Druids and predated Saxon and Viking influence.So I would say that most people in the British isles have Celtic ancestry in them. Later even the Vikings were forced into Christianity and became hybrid Saxon-Vikings. Having East Anglian ancestry, myself and Irish from my Mother's family, makes a real mongrel indeed. I would rather look at the common good in all of us and strive for a one world family but even this in our present day seems like an impossibility.

[@carmelodriscoll6155]

The Celtic areas in the United Kingdom are known to be Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and Cornwall. England has Celtic roots but for some reason are not classed as Celts, I don’t know why 🤷‍♀️ Also other Celts are Brittany (France) and the Isle of Man.

[@richb3802]

@@carmelodriscoll6155 Hi Carmel. England does indeed have Celtic roots, but mixed with Anglo Saxon, so essentially we are an Anglo/Celtic people, whilst the Scots and Welsh are more Celtic both linguistically and genetically, although we are all descended from the Bell Beaker Folk.

[@lysamarie1303]

I live where we have the only upside down traffic light. The green is on the top on Tip Hill

[@shakostarsun]

"Let's jump right into it!"

[@Master_Blackthorne]

The leprechauns (means small body) are supposed to be fallen angels. In Walt Disney's "Darby O'Gill and the Little People" there is a DVD extra where Disney journeys to Ireland and consults with a librarian from the University of Dublin who tells him this. When there was war in heaven, the leprechauns thought they were too little to matter so they stayed out of the war. After the bad angels were cast out, St. Michael told the leprechauns they didn't do anything bad, but they didn't do anything good either, so they were banished to earth. As they fell, they noticed a beautiful green country (Ireland) and took up residence there. So they exchanged their white robes and halos for green knickers sand buckled shoes. Frankly, I like the Tuatha de Danann stories better.

[@acmulhern]

I don't think that the local pagans would have been mistreated by St Patrick. Ireland has had many occupiers and although not many of these accounts are written down, the memory of the English conquest and Viking carnage is still very present in Ireland (obviously they are more recent, but still). There are many stories of St Patrick walking around Ireland and using stories to convert people, so nothing to do with religion being forced onto a population through military conquest. Besides, he is a very beloved figure in Ireland, which simply wouldn't have been the case if he had have been agressive in any way. He was just some guy who told nice stories and provided a type of entertainment, not unlike the bards that would have been numerous in Ireland at the time.

[@deewagner4817]

It's so awesome that you live in Savannah!

[@beatleowl]

I love Smithwicks! Not easy to find in my area.

[@Krysten_now]

For cities with a population over 50,000 as measured by participants per population of the city, Savannah GA is first and Scranton PA is second for the United States for parade size.

[@Anna19093]

For me personally, I don’t view Saint Patrick’s Day as a religious celebration. I view it as a day to celebrate my Irish roots and ancestors. I was raised Catholic, I believe in God, but I don’t believe in religion. To me, religion was never and will never be about God. It’s only about power, wealth, and politics (if you have a different belief than I do that’s perfectly fine.) To me, I don’t want to celebrate it as a religious holiday because of the conversion aspect of it. I believe everyone has a right to their beliefs as long as it’s not harming anyone (which Paganism is clearly not.) Same reason why I don’t celebrate Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is not a day to be celebrated in anyway. There is nothing more disgusting to me than getting together with family to celebrate the genocide of Native peoples. Instead I like to celebrate the Fall Harvest.

[@iamuniverse3154]

Ms.Scarlet may I ask what is the role of wife and husband in paganism?I haven't seen any book related with this and hope to answer my question.Thanks..

[@markpjf85]

My ancestors were Irish and Christianity Catholics to leprechauns are pagan dancing around the bonfire playing the fiddle eating food drinking wine 🍷 Best way to celebrate St Patrick’s Day listen to music old folk music drink beer have fun and be merry 😁👍

[@mageriver3388]

Thanks for video. Fyi check the key of tarot link.

[@acmulhern]

St Patrick was a Welsh man and he was abducted and enslaved by Irish pirates. they made him herd sheep on Mt Slemish. He actually fled to France where he got his catholic education. Legend has it that he had a dream where he was told that he should go back to Ireland, a place he hoped to never see again, and to spread the word of God there. That's why he went back. Some people think that St Patrick wasn't actually a man, but an order of men who converted Ireland. This would explain why there are several so-called burial spots of St Patrick.

[@bizarrojane4361]

As a pagan and of Irish descent I say let us just be proud of our heritage, don’t give this guy any credit. Happy Irish Pride Day 🍀

[@UhtredOfBamburgh]

o i missed this by 13 minutes!! lol

[@lunarrose9290]

Is he ment to be a real person or more diety like when you mentioned bridgit

[@lisaonthemargins]

I love St Patrick

[@deborahbloomer4567]

Alpine, Texas. Diet Pepsi

[@bellatrixmoon1836]

Yeah but “paganism” was already dying by the time Patrick started his mission 🤷🏼‍♀️ there was another Christian sect, that was growing popular and that the Catholic Church say as heretical, and he was sent more specifically to get rid of them, but perhaps all things deemed heretical by the Roman church 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@whatabouttheearth]

As far as I know there really isn't any evidence that St. Patrick introduced the numbers cross. Vikings also has Rollo St. Clair du epte as a brother with Ragnar Lothbrock, the first stories of the legend of Ragnor came several generations before Rollo's birth. Vikings is a good show but historically garbage that ties into the Sinclair's of Scotland (St. Clair) through William the Conqueror, and so History Channels other series Knightfall and all their 'Vikings discovered the Americas' stuff they promote.

[@KellyLouiseBrown]

I had heard from Irish Pagans that St Patrick was working for Rome to convert Irish Pagans to Christianity. Irish are used to thinking in terms of Three (Land, Sea and Sky) so they were open to the concept of The Trinity. I am Celtic Welsh Pagan but I went to a Catholic High School. I am from South Wales UK.

[@suvarnashinde7159]

Please help Europe to again achieve paganism

[@suvarnashinde7159]

So please make uk pegan again go vedic go successful

[@finncollins5696]

@@suvarnashinde7159 no we dont need paganism in europe. thank you. you are a indian hindhu. dont worry about us. we have jesus.,,,,,,,,,

[@minniex622]

All humanity have pagan ancestry. This is truth 😰🌚🧟🍃 and is going on until today timeline, ... Not Pagan worship ...as forsay, nowadays People are worshipping Artists, Hollywood actresses, football athlets, people are following and worshipping their favorite politician... They have forgot God. So they worship human beings. At old times, our ancesters worshipped dieties, Roman gods, godesses, statutes, nowadays, people are worshipping real humans who are liars, lie on TV, greed on TV.... Messy world 😜😜🙄🤔🤯🌜🥴😵😫 Madame Thussaud's musuem with celebrity statutes is kind of glorifying humans as gods, people are worshipping them. Behind the word ''fan of'' ..is a secret message, worshipper of .. i am a fan of nobody nowadays. Back then, people worshipped The Beatles , worshipped lots of other artists as well.... 🦄🎠🌌

[@Mr.MarcusMario]

You should start an fansonly page. Bet you will do good on there.

[@richardkasper5822]

I bless every person that has visited this site and everyone that will visit this site in the future and thier entire family in the name of the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit Amen May the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ find you and release you from the snares of the devil and all his works.Amen