Staccato C2 Tree Bark Grip vs Bul Armory SAS ll Ultralight (2020)

[@theworldisnotenough]

When I see these nice 2011 for concealed carry I imagine an 80's commercial "If you ever have to smoke someone, smoke 'em in style..." Then a Burt Reynolds-esque actor draws from concealment, fade to black.

[@pjbiggleswerth8903]

This will never leave my head.

[@juniorcalderon4236]

These are the exact edc guns I really want , great information thanks

[@carllove3705]

Yeah I am one of those who is waiting for the SAS II Ultra Light. I am going on 4 months now. Hopefully it will be here soon.

[@glocksrock1]

I did the exact same modification to my staccato p except I put the c2 grip on the p. Great feel and with the steel frame, recoil is very light. Great video

[@googlechicken]

Never had a Staccato but Bul Aromory makes amazing 2011s the fit and finish is very good and the triggers are amazing

[@KeanonGilliamSlang369]

Nice comparison.I like the Bull Armory's front strap checkering. The Staccato C2 is a really nice shooter.

[@prangea1]

Hey Jay, Please do share a review of the EDC X9S once you get it...I'm looking at the X9S v. SAS II UL as my top two options right now. Again, there are surprisingly few reviews of the SAS II UL (other than the ones from TFB TV and Sunday Gunday) but it seems like a gun that a lot of people are interested in so I think any videos you can do on the SAS II UL will get good view counts.

[@JayMacklin]

Yes, definitely. I have a few of my videos on the SAS II UL

[@RookCustoms]

Mmmm i hate when companies don't finish their work. They should have Cerakoted that frame work to give it a professional OEM look.

[@Briggs1700]

Is your Bul 2011 SAS 2 UL a 45? Bul doesnt give width specs and local armories dont hold them in stock so I cant compare to a 1911. I like the thinness/sleeckness of the 1911. So doubting between double stacked 2011 UL or their 1911 Ultra for CCW type.

[@JayMacklin]

The SAS ll UL is a 9mm but my SAS ll Tac commander is a .45

[@Briggs1700]

@@JayMacklin seems like a lot of the UL's on YT are 9mms 🤔.

[@H0w1tz3r666]

How do you find the accuracy of the Bul Armory vs the C2? Does the shorter barrel make much of a difference? Great videos thanks for posting!

[@JayMacklin]

The Bul is pretty spot on. Not much different at 7yds. C2 is better at 10yds

[@theoverunderthinker]

I bet you can put the Stacatto grip on the Bul gun. that's what I did for my Bul Armory SAS II Tactical 5" because I didn't love the Bul grip that came on it (the texture mostly). It went on directly. it was a big improvement.

[@theoverunderthinker]

the Extreme Shooters grip I mean. not the stock grip. :)

[@erwinallansantos1735]

Hi Jay.. Erwin here! I'm a new subcriber here in your channel, I can tell that you like both pistols. question is, which one do you like most when it comes to shooting, accuracy and shot placement?

[@JayMacklin]

The C2 hands down. The SAS is a fun little Gun but with a smaller barrel, it’s harder to be accurate with. The C2, aside from being heavier is better in every way.

[@erwinallansantos1735]

@@JayMacklin thanks for the info! I will purchase one in the future.

[@michaelmarrero8920]

You have an awesome collection! What happened to bobbing the bul main spring housing?

[@JayMacklin]

Michael Marrero great question. I actually got used to the grip and have not done it yet

[@IndianaDundee]

Those are sweet, but I’m still digging my 365XL.

[@MP-kf6mu]

Can the C2 mags fit in the BUL? Looking for alternative ways to get mags. Have you tried a loose fit of the C2 lower on the BUL? I imagine if it would fit with some filing. not that I would ask you to do that. Looking forward to see hear your review on the wilson combat.

[@JayMacklin]

Michael Pronchick the C2 mags do not fit in the Bul. I haven’t tried to fix the grip of the C2 to the Bul.

[@tberkoff]

Can you do a comparison of the C2 and the Bul SAS Commander, in terms of quality of build, fit and finish, etc.? Thanks.

[@JayMacklin]

I will

[@hurt1704]

Is that the vip grip they offer? Also did you get the maximum reduction on it?

[@JayMacklin]

No, this is the tree bark grip and it does have the max mainspring reduction.

[@christophernicholson5559]

If you could only pick one would it be the staccato or Bul?

[@Assafu77]

Is the UL magazine fatter than the c2's?

[@adrianmvigil17]

Did you have to have Extreme Shooters dremel that bobbed cut or does it come like that?

[@carllove3705]

Is the tree bark grip smaller or thinner than the gen 2 grips? I think I would add a small magwell

[@jvz1448]

I’ve been considering selling my C2 and getting the ultralight and the sas Tac ii. Any big differences in those vs the C2 as far as reliability, shooting, recoil, etc? Also, on the ultralight I know some new ones came out. Do you know how to tel the difference? Thanks.

[@JayMacklin]

So quick update, I sold my UL and kept my C2. For me it was a great decision. The UL was cantankerous with different ammo after replacing a few guide rods and bushings. Never had an issue with my C2. If you can get the UL without having to jettison the C2 do it, it’s still a ripen shooter.

[@jvz1448]

@@JayMacklin thank you. What about C2 vs Nighthawk T4 carry if you have any experience with that? T4 is 45 so obvious caliber difference but I mean I’m terms of quality, etc.

[@jvz1448]

@@JayMacklin so I will just keep my c2 off your recommendation. The grip is just a little thick for me. Might try an extreme shooters grip. I picked up a Bul Armory edc 4.25 in 9mm. Super flat shooting an accurate! Do you have any recommendations from Bul. Thinking about picking another one up. Sas ul 3.25 or….

[@JayMacklin]

@@jvz1448 I’m a big fan of Nighthawk and have a couple. I dont have the T4 but would definitely look at the Grip from Extreme shooters.

[@jvz1448]

@@JayMacklin thank you!

[@matthewcarpinello5200]

How hard was that grip install? Also, did it help with reach to the mag release? I have super short thumbs and no one makes an extended mag release for the C2...

[@JayMacklin]

Matthew Carpinello I had my gun guy do it but i could have done it myself after eating him🤦🏼‍♂️. Yes, it’s much easier to reach the mag release even more so than the staccato C

[@cwsspot]

Any idea if the extreme shooters grip will accept a magwell? I just got a P duo. I was looking at swapping to the smaller VIP grip but would like to able to add a magwell for shooting sports and then remove for carry.

[@RickDeckard2049]

it does not accept a magwell

[@KristopherChoi]

Really appreciate your videos. After installing the extreme shooters grip, how different is the c2 grip from the c in terms of concealability? I'm trying to decide between the two.

[@JayMacklin]

Kris Choi the C is still easier to conceal due to the double stack but not by much. I will say that the tree bark grip is “sticky” and will stick to clothing more.

[@leadfarmer5035]

@@JayMacklin What is the grip module a straight up install? No gun smithing needed?

[@JayMacklin]

The C2 and SAS are very close in grip size

[@TheFittedRockStar]

Where did you get that grip from? Do you have a link I can use

[@jsmcneese7]

Is the frame to slide, slide to barrel fit on the Bul as good as sti? I have a Bul Viper on the way been waiting 4 months.

[@JayMacklin]

Joshua McNeese No...close, very close but no

[@JayMacklin]

Joshua McNeese no one without both would know.

[@jsmcneese7]

I thought not. I have the Bul Heavy Metal and its tight but not Custom tight. I still think I will love the viper if it is accurate and reliable. Also fast

[@JayMacklin]

Joshua McNeese agreed. Bul is fast becoming my fav and next to Staccato and Wilson, Bul is amazing. I have the Bul 1911 Ultra 3” .45 and I absolutely love it.

[@marks.4776]

Where do you get your extra magazines for the Bul SAS ii?

[@JayMacklin]

Good question. Mine came with 2 so I haven’t had to buy another one. I think you can call Gilbert or the Cesar shoppe online.

[@marks.4776]

@@JayMacklin ...thanks for the info. I am wanting to get one of these and always like to have 3 to mags per pistol.

[@samchops6875]

Have you seen the new 2022 models like the SAS II Tac 4.25" (kzbin.info/www/bejne/hJeckoNtibqCiNE)? I've been trying to find out if any of the following are MIM parts? Slide stop, ambi thumb safety, hammer, sear, plunger tube, ejector. I've emailed them but they won't tell me.

[@jbw503619]

Do you find the Bul snappy at all?

[@JayMacklin]

Not really. Just found it to be less reliable than the C2

[@daniellong2100]

Does STI make Mosul?

[@michaelmarrero8920]

I thing the bul sas2 tac commander would be more comparable to the staccato's

[@JayMacklin]

Michael Marrero yeah, probably. Staccatos don’t have a small gun like the SAS ll UL

[@Evgeni432]

do the holsters from C2 fit the Bul?

[@JayMacklin]

They do. Almost exact.

[@joeykim3938]

Where’s the xc? 😂 Obviously it’s a joke with you keep pulling out staccato guns. 😆