Stack Separation Sorting

Original reddit post: / simple_entity_splitter
Creator : / pwouik
also check out mcboyen , helping alot with the initial idea and everything else / boyenn
my twitch : / methodz1991

[@sanderbos4243]

I can't recall the last time such a major discovery was made, this is awesome!

[@alexboardman7420]

Addicted to ark for 250 hours week, I wish I knew how to create time like you MethodZ :)

[@Milansito_]

its "basic" redstone

[@AkiSan0]

now i would love to see methods steam page. im 1250 hours... so mad respect if he beat that..

[@MethodZzS]

actually 2 weeks im dumb

[@paulwesley3862]

@@MethodZzS thats still 18h per day. o.O Are you ok Methodz?

[@preisiHD]

@@Milansito_ he did. By a "few" hours :D

[@RedCMD]

250 hours per week divided by 7 days of the week equals 35.7 hours per day

[@keris3920]

You guys don't have 35.7 hours per day where you live?

[@Chromepulse]

MethodZz is clearly playing it while undergoing the effects of time dilation

[@Trisador9]

Maybe he meant in two weeks, as this is the metric Steam usually gives you

[@destructivforce2894]

Oh hey, I saw this on stream. I still remember the obsidian piston monostable

[@MethodZzS]

if you get to my lvl of redstone you will finally be able to use obsidian for your monostables too!

[@WetaMantis]

@@MethodZzS Huh... BEDROCK monostable. Stable as a rock.

[@miberss]

btdb2 player spotted

[@pwouik9784]

Nice use of entity splitting

[@notapplicable7292]

Damn, I can already imagine the insane storage tech stuff that's going to come from this.

[@WetaMantis]

This is simply revolutionary. As long as you find efficient ways to dispense items. You just multiplied the standard sorter speed by 64... that is: if people change the way they do sorters but I think they will. That's not incremental improvement we're talking about, it's HUGE.

[@Firigion]

Very nice to sort out cobble from quarries!

[@dandymcgee]

This is one of the most absurd things I've ever seen. Mad genius.

[@rozsymc]

Great to have you back methodzz, this is one of those game gaming moments, like the impulsesv sorter, the etho hoppper clock, and stacking iron/raid farms, its going to change the way things are done for a good while to come, GG to you, pwouik and boyenn, for all the hours of testing, the streams have been great to watch

[@rightleft7306]

This is pretty cool, ngl. 18/10 really interesting item sorting

[@jorvp]

Yeah, this is big brain time. Awesome discovery by this guy on reddit, finally not using 500 sorters in a huge bartering setup to sort unstackables

[@teslakovalaborator]

Nice to hear you, but nothing is better than the troll song

[@ovencake523]

can we call this thing a pwouik spliter? They deserve the credit

[@brandonw5415]

this seems groundbreaking. imagine it with piglin bartering or a storage system using dolphins.

[@Thalanir7]

The legend returns!

[@hobrin4242]

Oh that entity sorter is genius. Rly like how you are taking it into completely new things other than just stack seperation.

[@bobdagranny7431]

This is so game changing for fast farms where conventionally you would need 1991 (see the greatness of that pun?) sorters!!

[@generalmisery]

Funny enough I was looking for something like that earlier today. I need something that can filter items and send them to hoppers with 1 block vertically in between them. You could use hoppers, but they are slow and you really get speed problems with 15 hoppers. This works really well for that (with a few changes). So basically with this thing you can make more compact storage. I am refining a storage system where you call items using 2 lecterns and a leaver (450 different items).

[@AkiSan0]

man methodz. you remind me so much of sam trotter (best borderlands 1 build tutorials imho). Love It!

[@Sphendrana]

Awesome, so glad to see you back again! Can't wait to see what crazy things you'll find in 1.18 Also good for you going forward with monetizing, hoping somebody comes up with a silly tune for you to use in place of Trololo!

[@kk.mp4]

Those are actually nice contraptions, It's interesting how I was working on similar system of "hoperless" sorting just today xD Well without this trick, was using different hitboxes to align items from different mobs in a mob farm in a single water stream. Was also stacking items into full stacks so it's less laggy

[@Rechenmaschine9752]

go digging

[@outsidefactor]

You don't disappoint, MethodZz! You might have been gone for a while, but you return with the goods! Taking an already impressive concept and taking it to a new place and changing bulk item handling forever. This solves so many problems, my mind is reeling with the prospect of stack sorting. The efficiency gain! I am dreaming of a Brobdingnagian scale sorting system now... And thankyou for the link to the original mob sorter! I have needed a machine to break up stacks of carts, and it stacks them so neatly!

[@placeholderhere2864]

Wait till you see what snow farm he made with 100% of his brain

[@mahkda1243]

At first I though you were addicted to Arch and that you spent 250H a week on changing config files and ricing

[@zinkia745]

Seams like this system would be perfect for bartering sorting.

[@westsidewarfare3535]

Good to see you bro!

[@Nugcon]

this is like splitting the atom

[@rover8066]

Love the streams, hope your family is doing well

[@Boyenn]

I'm so excited for this. Thanks for working out and implementing the concept so well and then explaining it way better than I would ever be able to do! Real alpha right here ladies.

[@jorvp]

stop being toxic

[@paulorodrigues593]

this should also be very useful for shulker blowing crafting systems for controlling how many stacks go to the player, its so amazinh

[@westsidewarfare3535]

This is great to here

[@danielwow3700]

That looks satisfying af

[@TFirsty]

That intro better not change. Ever.

[@topdog5252]

This is wicked

[@DagothThorus]

Awesome game design, right there!

[@Trisador9]

It's definitely cool that Mojang hid this cool mechanic for us to discover. They must be so happy now that someone's finally found it :)

[@Redz]

Pretty cool stuff!

[@sigh79]

ARK is a nice game and MethodZz was the best Breeder in our Tribe!

[@aebisdecunter]

VERY promising concept. Especially the slimeblock sorters at the end. But for me it isn't 100% reliable at 12gt. I've tried making some modifications to the design, but couldn't make it faster than 14gt. Can it handle constant stream of items at 12 gt?

[@celestialbeas9214]

Could be good for mixed item shulkerboxes coming from a quarry.

[@CoolSpiderman2012]

This is huge

[@madman2572]

Anyone managed to stack sort at 12gt? The separation works fine but I believe the stack sorter/pusher in the video can only do 14gt (or 13 I haven't tried) when the same type of stack gets pushed back to back.

[@fireskorpion396]

this is just crazy

[@TerraVoxel]

\o/ it’s finally here!

[@an-yr7gk]

very poggers indeed

[@thomasm5273]

I hope your fathers doing better, glad to see you back

[@ovencake523]

damn this tech is incredible you cant get this in any other game

[@luke_sch0212]

btw i actually found a way that it works without realigning... you just have to accept that one "sorter" is one block wider...

[@godipose9000]

very cool but can you pls make a vid on the villiger cell you made

[@fakestory1753]

me and another guy just find a survival setup to create stationary skull when you post this video what coincidence kek

[@Flattithefish]

Me which saw it befor being in the description in Lima go video

[@sanderbos4243]

Props to you Methodzz for giving lots of credit to the discoverer of the entity separation technique! Could someone explain why the contraption at 5:04 looks like that? I get how the hopper part works, but I want to know 1. why it's useful to have it sort items in two directions at once, does it have to do with a 2-wide portal and if so can't you instead have all items come out of a single portal block instead? 2. I also don't get what the dried coral blocks are for; I assume it manipulates some kind of update order, but why would update order need to be manipulated if you aren't duping TNT? 3. Is it absolutely necessary to use this trick with the waterlogged stairs at 7:57 to get flowing water? Can the water that's pushing back not instead just be a regular source block that's flowing one block in the direction of the slime block and then flowing down to the side? 4. Also, is it possible to have a regular block push the items instead of a slime block, or is the slime block crucial for the stack separation to work? The original reddit post that separates creepers doesn't seem to use a slime block, so I'm guessing you just needed it so the items are flung further across the ice?

[@MethodZzS]

1.bringing speed from 16 gt to 10 by simply mirroring it, you can drop items in either of these 2 blocks doesnt matter if you use both or one or randomize inbetween 2.coral stops the budded pistons from "shaking" without having a hitbox like a normal block that would mess with the items 3. can be flowing water but might change timings of clock. 4. slimeblock is needed to get enough acceleration in this setup, if you just wanted to do 1 item i guess piston maybe works but then theres also no point in sorting you only have 1 item :) hope this answered it all

[@sanderbos4243]

@@MethodZzS That did answer it all, thank you! :D

[@placeholderhere2864]

Wait so if you can use a water source for the flowing water how do you place a pickle there?

[@Nooticus]

Welcome back Methodzz! The implementation of this discovery is SO cool, but I still don’t understand how the initial mechanic with the trapdoor actually works? Is it a bug?

[@Nooticus]

I read the reddit post and understand now, dont worry!

[@Gzussss]

I've been looking at the sorting 10:16 to 10:19. Do you just throw one item in the lava every time you sort a stack?

[@SunDry_Marchy]

More slimeman content is a good content

[@nikolasscholz7983]

Holy shit this is massive

[@yankees88888g]

O dam this is big

[@hobrin4242]

yeah I do miss the trololol music

[@nilsuslatinus3637]

Sooo can we expect a second channel for technical ark soon?

[@N.K5108]

Oh my, it's been so long

[@Otzkar]

ngl im not really that sad that we are letting the trolololol music go

[@placeholderhere2864]

Same, like it was nice but I just rly wanted the content like the bug he showed but rip

[@magnusclaesson5843]

Hm, when i look at the numbers a stack is not sorted thru, there is one item per stack lost. Were does that end up? And using this to filling shulker boxes would make that part inconvenient, filling with stacks of 63 is not that great.

[@theosib]

The hoppers look full. How does sending an item past a full hopper detect the type of the item?

[@dramwertz4833]

They arent full. If you look closely one of the stacks is only stacked up to 63. Atleast if you mean the hoppers i think you mean

[@simphater1787]

250 hours per veek more than 35 hours per day

[@AngelBottomless]

Finally

[@TFirsty]

Does it sort them by age because the slime block creates a list of items and the oldest items are at the top of the list, and thus get moved first? If so does this behavior stay the same on chunk reloading? How does it behave if two different items are spawned in the same tick?

[@MethodZzS]

no clue what happens on chunkreload have to test that but same tick doesnt matter there is still an update order (a time diffrence ) edit: seems like order is preserved on chunkunload so thats really good news

[@druser6613]

I've heard that it actually sorts it by the order in which it enters a chunk section, rather than age.

[@MethodZzS]

@@druser6613 only if you push it with a piston, slimeblock gets rid of these issues completly, but you are right apparently we could change the order by dropping in items from diffrent chunks then use a normal piston etc

[@TFirsty]

@@MethodZzS Well it sounds consistent which is good.

[@placeholderhere2864]

My guess would be that the items are added to a list with their age, sorted from top down for despawning maybe and they just use that same list for what item to proccess first

[@abhijiths5237]

When was this found?

[@demonplays9408]

finally

[@-Vlad.The.OneX-]

You can make a really crazy bartering system where you use cells with 24 piglins and just push everything in the overworld(aligned) where you can control what do you need to sort, like you dont need more iron nuggets or string ext. after you have a double chest of it. You can also use the same system to distribute gold supply for the droppers.

[@Bqyden]

2:27 is that a challenge?

[@davicarvalhodesouza7260]

Is there a version for bedrock?

[@aurorademure6627]

Comment for comments sake.

[@placeholderhere2864]

What about the snow farm ;) ;) *wink* *wink* that you were building on stream

[@trolle_]

How reliebile is it, can i unload it and can it be Broken in other ways?

[@MethodZzS]

unload proof and basically unbreakable unless you tryhard like i did in the vid by throwing in items by hand etc

[@placeholderhere2864]

I mean if you unload the clock it turns off ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@fyghujiok]

This cowfarm?

[@WetaMantis]

What's the difference between copyright strike and copyright claim?

[@MethodZzS]

copyright claim: all revenue simply goes to creator. copyright strike: revenue goes to creator but if you accumulate 3 your account is gone

[@WetaMantis]

@@MethodZzS Ah! I thought there was a loophole were if you don't monetize the algorithm doesn't catch you... Of course they do :D Does it work on all copyrighted musics inside a non monetized video or can you get a strike or video deleted for some? Thanks

[@ogayu3469]

You're alive? Lmao

[@adriann8584]

ARK on top

[@tetradb_]

No one get Methodz to 100k, we all know what happens then :/

[@shreyash6589]

What?

[@circadianarchist]

what if you sing it yourself? :)

[@donknoward2832]

Redstone starts at 2:50

[@hobrin4242]

Nothing sucks as much as editing a video, including trololol, and then you can't upload it. Like how am I supposed then going to a methods video, going through his videos, mentioning it, and then ... no alternatives.

[@Flattithefish]

Typically methozz upload and then no more uploads for long time

[@cee_jay_0]

Since this works with stacks of items, i suppose it also separates unstackable items? And what happens to full shulker boxes with identical content - do they get separated one by one or as a stack?

[@tyrannus00]

it doesnt work with unstackables since it needs to pick up one item in the hoppers to check if its the correct type - which wont work with unstackables

[@Boyenn]

Ignore Tyr, he misunderstood your question. * Yes, it does seperate an unstackable item, as that's also a "stack". ( Obviously it doesn't sort them, like @tyrannus said, but that wasn't your question ). * For full shulker boxes: Unless you have some carpetrul tomfoolery, they are still pure unstackables. NBT data ( content ) doesn't matter, they get seperated one by one.

[@cee_jay_0]

@@Boyenn thans for the clarification :)

[@placeholderhere2864]

I believe only empty shulker boxes are stacking

[@tyrannus00]

@@placeholderhere2864 they dont

[@ckdgyp9149]

Separation*

[@SunDry_Marchy]

What is this witchcraft

[@placeholderhere2864]

The confusing world of computer proccessing and coding

[@ovencake523]

the fact you cant use the trolololol song is really depressing. Copyright like this is inhibiting creative work rather than supporting it

[@retich3108]

start on 2:48

[@killyourbrains6222]

bootleg ilmango accent