Staff sling vs. Balearic sling

[@JadeMythriil]

a staff sling is pretty much just a hand powered trebuchet.

[@davidmorningstar]

Absolutely. I have a longer video about staff slings if you want to see more.

[@SolomonHrangNawl859]

True

[@mattisbette3932]

Most trebuchets where actually hand powered. Instead of a heavy weight getting pulled up a whole bunch of people pulled on ropes to power most trebuchets.

[@georqedubyakush6066]

​@@mattisbette3932 oh, the things humanity can accomplish after some dude yells "HEAVE" at us

[@dosh8276]

So trebuchets are XXL sized staff slings

[@davidmorningstar]

Yep! I have a bigger video on staff slings too

[@luke14946]

Not enough X's.

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

Church near me built a big one as a boys project. The weight I think was a pallet of concrete blocks the projectile was a coffee can full of cement about a 10 lb can Very well built and very well-educated system. The boys learned a lot about physics. Added flashing along the slide, the ramp so it was slicker, less friction... I think it went about 300 yd if I remember right

[@Zbsbnsjsjzjsj]

something i never really see talked about in the slinging community is about Ammunition Holding bags , in almost every painting where balearic slingers are depicted they always had a bag either crossbody or on their waist but i never see people talk about those bags, you should make a video on them it would be cool.

[@davidmorningstar]

Good point. I reload with my right hand and keep my ammo on the right, others reload with their left hand from a bag on the left. There is a slinger carved on Trajan's column with ammo in a fold of the cloak over the left arm, various modern slingers have tried this and said it was horrible. There are two Greek illustrations of slingers with a small bag hanging from the left elbow, this would work well for a right handed reload but I can't think why a cross body bag wouldn't be better.

[@wiredvibe1678]

Staff slingers were probably slinging much larger rocks

[@Zbsbnsjsjzjsj]

@@wiredvibe1678 yeah true. A bit larger projectiles maybe

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

​@@wiredvibe1678 I watched a video and said 435 g Was the standard load. Right at 1 lb

[@vgamedude12]

The Balearic sling sound is so cool, and it just looks neat. I gotta try one someday but im afraid of using slings and hurting myself lol. I could use tennis ball but eventually id know id want to use something else.

[@davidmorningstar]

Well, I have a video on how to sling, and there are some other good videos too, Archaic Arms and Iron Goober are legit. Bit.ly/slingfaq for how to make slings

[@vgamedude12]

@@davidmorningstar I've watched some of archaic arms. Very good videos

[@lunaticfae4415]

If it makes you feel better, you'd have to try pretty hard to hurt yourself with a sling. The people around you however, nother story

[@stevena105]

I started with tennis balls less than a year ago. Once you get a feel for it, moving on to something else isn't that much of a risk. The biggest risk is a pouch-slip, but you get a feel for when a projectile is seated well too.

[@Casualgaming763]

I personally think that staff sling is much too short. A longer staff and sling should add more distance and speed to your throws.

[@davidmorningstar]

I have a video on staff slings. The sling length cannot be changed, it sets the release timing. The staff can be longer but it becomes more cumbersome to reload with.

[@Banished-rx4ol]

Historically they came in both two handed and smaller one handed variants. Its personal preference

[@davidmorningstar]

@@Banished-rx4ol I would be very interested to get a historical reference to a one handed staff sling, I have never seen one. Some people have made them and say they are fun, I haven't tried it.

[@KeefsCattys]

Anyone who is a good beachcaster ( shore fishing) would be great at staff slinging . Hi David , Keith from Dalkeith Midlothian . Hope you're well .

[@robertbrunston5406]

Looks interesting! Thanks.

[@davidmorningstar]

I have more detailed how-to videos on both types of sling weapon.

[@sethgaston8347]

You put ALOTTT of trust in your body. The kid in Christmas Carol lost an eye. You sir, could’ve lost a frontal lobe or a couple of ribs!! Slings are much stronger than the average person knows

[@davidmorningstar]

Well these are tennis balls so nobody is going to get hurt, but slinging stones is a whole different matter of course.

[@sethgaston8347]

@@davidmorningstar ooooohh, yeah that makes way more sense

[@howtogetoutofbabylon8978]

You can see the damn thing what is the danger? Pitchers throw a fastball 100 mi an hour and it's coming back at him even faster yet pitchers still catch it with their hand, sometimes it's even in their mit. Some bare handed! Karens trying to tell people to be safe what's showing off their stupidity!!

[@sethgaston8347]

@@howtogetoutofbabylon8978 these guys are using tennis balls so there’s no real danger. I thought they were using rounded stones like historical slingers did.

[@gerry5134]

I thought they were playing long range cricket 🏏 😊

[@Banished-rx4ol]

What do you think of slings like the cree rock stick? Instead of two hands its a one handed stick sling.

[@davidmorningstar]

I have never tried one.

[@Banished-rx4ol]

@@davidmorningstar Is there any advantages to a one handed rock sling? I’ve heard its easier to learn and be accurate with than a normal sling and less cumbersome as a staff sling. I’ve personally never tried one so I don’t know.

[@davidmorningstar]

The hand sling is super portable, I have EDC a sling for about 15 years. The staff sling is very easy to use and much more accurate by comparison, but it is slower to use and obviously not pocketable.

[@Banished-rx4ol]

@@davidmorningstar Thank you for the information

[@bruno4299]

Some people say that David used a staff sling in the Bible, because he took his staff to face Goliath, but I have serious doubts about this statement. The shepperd sling was very common in the Mediterranean in ancient times, used by greeks, romans, assyrians, babylonians, egyptians and celts, and is still used today in the Middle East by young people. The staff sling, on the other hand, was a siege weapon, and as far as I know there are no references to it being used in the region in ancient times. It makes no sense for a young shepherd to use a siege weapon when the common sling is still used today by children taking care of livestock. The staff was probably a way of symbolizing David's status as a humble shepherd.

[@davidmorningstar]

@@bruno4299 agreed 💯

[@sharkusvelarde]

Also it's a fictional story so... There's that.

[@Uncle_Jacob]

​@@sharkusvelarde Is it though?

[@sharkusvelarde]

@@Uncle_Jacob Absolutely, no hard evidence of the occurrence. Just some story passed around like Greek myths, pffffftt!

[@Uncle_Jacob]

@@sharkusvelarde History didn't exist before someone wrote it down?

[@luciusirving5926]

A plain sling in the hands of a trained pitcher can achieve similar power to a staff sling. Having footwork like that of pitchers also helps.

[@davidmorningstar]

@@luciusirving5926 Channing of Practical Paracord uses a baseball style throw, he is very powerful

[@gamingcat6034]

Didn’t know we had handheld trebuchets

[@davidmorningstar]

I have a whole video on how to make and use a staff sling 😎

[@tadasdovii8262]

Balearic sling exceed speed of saund?

[@davidmorningstar]

@@tadasdovii8262 the projectile does not, but the tip of the sling does, just like a whip

[@tadasdovii8262]

@@davidmorningstar got it

[@wramsey2656]

That one cleared the center field fence.

[@oteliogarcia1562]

the Balearic's sound, though

[@billykennard695]

Teach me your ways

[@davidmorningstar]

I have a video on how to sling, and one on how to makes and use the staff sling

[@UnknownNotFound630]

Why did it make that whip crack sound..?

[@davidmorningstar]

The hand sling in the distance has a tapered release cord that works like a cracker on a whip. Not all slings are made like this but it is common for Balearic slings

[@UnknownNotFound630]

@@davidmorningstar oh I see I actually make whips so that’s what I thought it was I wasn’t sure if the projectiles collided in the air 😂

[@erikhoff5010]

Interesting!

[@JohnDoe-bp7lu]

Was that an apple? Did he hit it? Crazy

[@davidmorningstar]

Those are tennis balls. The guy with the staff sling is sending them out and the guy with the shepherd sling is sending one back.

[@xii-f-27-wibisanaandika70]

WHERE’S THE BALEARIC SLINGG???

[@davidmorningstar]

Right at the back, returning the tennis balls

[@mikemartin5073]

what is the noise?

[@davidmorningstar]

The crack comes from the guy in the distance. The release cord of his sling cracks like a whip when he sends a tennis ball back this way.

[@mikemartin5073]

@@davidmorningstar the 2nd guy is so small I didn't even see him

[@RipGolgan]

Why was i about to say something about a trebuchet then i saw the first to comment were about trebuchets?

[@davidmorningstar]

I have a full video on how to make and use the staff sling and I mention the trebuchet connection

[@meanwileinthedesert..2320]

Swing and a miss.. I feel like this dual should have been at 5 paces instead of 20..

[@THECHEESELORD69]

Oh come on let them duel! It good entertainment for the lads!

[@Мелот]

В юбке? Без колготок!

[@davidmorningstar]

That is a kilt, they are very masculine.

[@Everything_60]

I wanna make these

[@davidmorningstar]

I have bigger videos on the staff sling and the Balearic sling on this channel. 😎

[@ericchapman4843]

Tactical Kilts!!!

[@flickingbollocks5542]

Explain....

[@davidmorningstar]

This is at a festival called Swordpunk, I was teaching staff sling and my friend in the distance (Archaic Arms) was returning the tennis balls with his Balearic sling.

[@coalstar9030]

@@davidmorningstar How is that even possible? Is he using it like a bat?

[@davidmorningstar]

@@coalstar9030 they are different balls, two separate shots.

[@rollinOnCode]

nah

[@stevena105]

​​@@coalstar9030The guy in the distance is using a sling (imagine taking the cord from the staff, making it longer, and securing it to your hand). I've only been practicing a few months, but I can reliably sling a tennis ball the length of a soccer field.

[@agenpertin7439]

😢😢😢

[@user-rr5ce1wb2j]

It's always out of shape or old LARPers doing this stuff. How about an athletic person (as soldiers using them would have been)

[@davidmorningstar]

Look up EtienneRousseauThrows, IronGoober, AcroBallistics, Archaic Arms.

[@stevena105]

Azogue_elea is another one. But all his videos are in Spanish.

[@noexcuse9130]

Yooo!!!

[@rascares2813]

ㅁㅊ

[@Nico-hk8eq]

that's the gayest catapult I've seen

[@georgemacaroni]

Well, that's one name for a staff sling. I'm gonna call staff slings "Gay catapults" from now on.

[@MitchMersa]

I can tell that form from a mile away !!! AA!!!!

[@davidmorningstar]

He was returning tennis balls from about fifty metres away. Not only was the crack echoing off the background, the balls were hissing as they went past us. All the learners were like 😯

[@KuchiKopium]

​@@davidmorningstar He's got such power in his shots; he's up there with Iron Goober for his throwing arm

[@davidmorningstar]

@@KuchiKopium Having seen them throwing together at the last International, absolutely. Both are phenomenal.

[@aldrinmilespartosa1578]

@@KuchiKopium pretty much one of the best currently

[@mikemartin5073]

Modern kilt wearing is goofy