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Baker Mayfield has been sidelined in the Cleveland Browns' Week 7 game against the Denver Broncos. With a now injured, average, quarterback, according to Colin Cowherd, in a division with Lamar Jackson and Joe Burrow, it's time for the Browns to consider moving off of Baker. Plus, Colin lays out why Matthew Stafford's loyalty to the Detroit Lions may have cost him the Hall of Fame.
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@TheHerdOnFS1
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@Mano-zn7so 2 жыл бұрын
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@jasonhickerson2235
@jasonhickerson2235 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford's loyalty to Detroit may have caused him the Hall of Fame?" LA will win the SB this year. I see Stafford putting up 5000 plus yard seasons in LA like he put up 4000 plus yard seasons in Detroit. Now that we have a 17 game season, anyway. I also think that he'll be the first QB to eclipse 6000 yrds and 60 TD's? That ain't going to happen this year. They'll win the Division with a record of 14-3. I see the loses to the Titans and Ravens. The worst they'll do is 12-5. I don't think Stafford will start slowing down for another 5 yrs at least. I think Stafford will play well into his late thirties maybe his early 40's at a high level.
@bryceferguson8409
@bryceferguson8409 2 жыл бұрын
@@jasonhickerson2235 agreeable except the 6,000 and 60 but I never thought about the extra game opening up more records to be broken that’s a great point
@michaelcookness1995
@michaelcookness1995 2 жыл бұрын
This is the exact argument that you can have with Damian Lillard, hes wasting his best years in Portland.
@layouttaco1880
@layouttaco1880 2 жыл бұрын
I need to find a girl that cares about me as much as Colin cares about baker
@halloumi8193
@halloumi8193 2 жыл бұрын
That’s a toxic relationship
@williamdillard5060
@williamdillard5060 2 жыл бұрын
Whatever Baker did to Colin I'm sure I don't know but Baker is a huge part of that "culture" change that's going on in Cleveland and they should go ahead and sign him.
@ubadman1
@ubadman1 2 жыл бұрын
@@williamdillard5060 baker isn't the cause of culture change. That's the entire team recreation.
@khegiskhan7785
@khegiskhan7785 2 жыл бұрын
Just like Colin said get rid of him
@andrewambrusko3651
@andrewambrusko3651 2 жыл бұрын
@@ubadman1 true but he did lead them to their first playoff game since 1994
@GreenBay19
@GreenBay19 2 жыл бұрын
I thought Colin would at least wait for Keenum to play before saying Baker is gone
@johnbrowntheprophet
@johnbrowntheprophet 2 жыл бұрын
No, because this is Colin we’re talking about here.
@vlcince
@vlcince 2 жыл бұрын
Cowherd never ceases to suprise
@kimkardashian6499
@kimkardashian6499 2 жыл бұрын
He’s right tho
@RUTHLESSambition5
@RUTHLESSambition5 2 жыл бұрын
Baker sucks. He is a #1 pick but plays like a 3rd rounder
@austinwilliams7919
@austinwilliams7919 2 жыл бұрын
@@RUTHLESSambition5 exactly. If he had the Jets roster.. or even the Jags roster, he'd have been out of the league already.
@victorfernandes5191
@victorfernandes5191 2 жыл бұрын
“The Bengals are still the only northern team without an indoor practice facility...” Pat McAfee throwing punches in the air right now
@zeppelinmexicano
@zeppelinmexicano 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you'd rather have the Bengals hold the tax payers hostage for a practice facility like the high schools? And have you or Colin seen their books and know what they are dealing with? What's their average ticket price? Trying looking a little deeper into things before trying to sound smart.
@Windupchronic
@Windupchronic 2 жыл бұрын
Colin's bashing Baker. Must be a day that ends in Y.
@johnbrowntheprophet
@johnbrowntheprophet 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
Must have missed where telling the truth is now bashing.
@Windupchronic
@Windupchronic 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eli-ss9gj It's bashing because Colin goes after Baker on a near daily basis, and has since day one. It may be valid criticism on occasion, but the consistency of it verges on personal.
@dylandylan5526
@dylandylan5526 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eli-ss9gj I mean he’s lied about Burrow Tua and Darnold but he doesn’t bring that up or he changes the narrative
@delbertphillips5124
@delbertphillips5124 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. The biggest man crush I've ever seen!
@jakecarty8517
@jakecarty8517 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly really want baker to win a super bowl so I can see Colin’s reaction
@technomad1770
@technomad1770 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 'almost', with you there 😂.
@CiviTac
@CiviTac 2 жыл бұрын
He would just say that it’s because of their running game and if darnold was drafted number 1 they’d be the best team of all time
@edwinnavedojr
@edwinnavedojr 2 жыл бұрын
Well They keep under achieving And Baker has failed to seal Game Winning Drives....This is a Team that was put on a Pedestal from their Roster since Baker was named the Starter....Some Bad Coaching rotation and Then Came Stefanski and they get put back to Favorite...and here we are are again 4-3 Sitting outside the Playoffs at this point.... Baker Mayfield is on a Contract Year so How this season ends will determine his future
@jwkreid
@jwkreid 2 жыл бұрын
Jarvis is key to their offensive structure Edwin. I think Baker will be given one more year. Case Keenum had everything going right for him last week, and even then his limitations showed during the game. A solid backup, they should be grateful to have him there, but Baker have shown beyond doubt why he's the starter. When he converts a few close ones into wins, the narrative will shift.
@jefferyhartwell9102
@jefferyhartwell9102 2 жыл бұрын
U don't have to worry about that Colin is right Baker isn't that good average at best
@wolverineheat5606
@wolverineheat5606 2 жыл бұрын
Colin’s hatred towards Baker slowly getting rewarded
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
As it should. He’s only speaking what we’ve all known about Baker.
@gerritschnaar9794
@gerritschnaar9794 2 жыл бұрын
anyone know why colin simply hates baker mayfield ?
@jhoreelantonio7121
@jhoreelantonio7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@gerritschnaar9794 Browns took 1st overall over Darnold. I guess
@tacotruck5009
@tacotruck5009 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eli-ss9gj we KNOW baker won a playoff game we KNOW baker lead them to a winning record. You are just a soy boy sticking up for your stepdaddy cowherd
@laythefoundation2083
@laythefoundation2083 2 жыл бұрын
@@tacotruck5009 we only know Baker couldn't beat KCs back up QB last year in the playoffs either
@dripskylark6054
@dripskylark6054 2 жыл бұрын
"You wear a gold jacket if you leave 6 years earlier" Damn 😔 that one's gotta hurt
@dmbgator86
@dmbgator86 2 жыл бұрын
It’s dumb take because 33 isn’t old as a QB. Stafford still has 1/3 of his career left and WILL be in the HOF one day. Any other position he may have a point but not at QB.
@benjaminbaker4216
@benjaminbaker4216 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmbgator86 honestly I think him being at the Rams is showing exactly how much more he already kinda deserves it... He litterally kept that team from just folding year after year. And spared countless other QBs from the purgatory of Detroit.
@arrizalstiller6041
@arrizalstiller6041 2 жыл бұрын
@@dmbgator86 I mean even as a Lions player the stats already backed him to become a HoF. 4 or more years as Rams with 3 or more pro bowl and a Championship or MVP will locked him in
@tdsportscards
@tdsportscards 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget, Stafford is one of a few to have a 5,000 season
@mediahernandez
@mediahernandez 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if you lose your 2 starting tackles, 2 best rbs, and 2 best wrs, the quarterback struggles. What a shocking statement.
@paoutdoorsman3071
@paoutdoorsman3071 2 жыл бұрын
Packers were missing all pro left tackle, probowl left guard, a starting receiver, a really good center, an all pro edge rusher, an all pro corner, and still won games. Ravens missing all pro left tackle, corner, and half their offensive line. Great QBs overcome adversity.
@slimetotingz3172
@slimetotingz3172 2 жыл бұрын
Look st packers look at mahomes he has no defense rookie oline and and he has to improvise almost every play because his wr are always locked up cuz tyreek and kelce get double teamed pool at lamar look at watson dude played his best season with a terrible oline and Brandon cooks as his number 1🤣 Russell wilson has not had a oline his whole career and has one ring multiple pro bowl appearances and will be in the hof
@Killy1212
@Killy1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@paoutdoorsman3071 look at the schedules of the two teams. Plus Aaron Rodgers isn't hurt
@paoutdoorsman3071
@paoutdoorsman3071 2 жыл бұрын
@@Killy1212 Packers played the niners when they were good, Bengals, Chicago. Packers have only played 1 team that had a losing record at the time of their game. Packers played 3 elite passrushing teams with 3 rookies starting and without Bakhtiari or Jenkins. I don't want to hear it.
@Killy1212
@Killy1212 2 жыл бұрын
@@paoutdoorsman3071 lmao when they were good. The Bengals are a Mediorce team and you beat Nagy thanks to some ref help lmao. When yall get healthy and still lose to the bucs in the playoffs you're gonna need another excuse
@JamesSavik
@JamesSavik 2 жыл бұрын
It took the Browns twenty plus years to find a QB that was competitive enough to get them to the playoffs. Dumping him would be an exceptionally stupid move.
@LunaticTheCat
@LunaticTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
People that don't realize this I swear are braindead. I love how they all choose to completely ignore how good Baker played in the playoffs last year, and choose to ignore the fact that Baker has played most of this season with a completely torn labrum and fractured shoulder.
@davidpietrow9534
@davidpietrow9534 2 жыл бұрын
They play to win the game. Have fun losing to the Ravens/Chiefs every year in the playoffs because "Baker is my QB".
@VerbeekTruther
@VerbeekTruther 2 жыл бұрын
If they actually want to compete, they'll need to move on at some point. It's like Goff with the rams. There's only so much you can do with this guy
@alexandergilles8583
@alexandergilles8583 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidpietrow9534 I'd rather loose to them in the playoffs every year for 15 years than having no more than 5 wins a year for 15 years
@jasonhickerson2235
@jasonhickerson2235 2 жыл бұрын
@@LunaticTheCat I like Baker. He plays his heart out and plays injured. I do wish he'd get the ball to Odell more.
@ejwonka
@ejwonka 2 жыл бұрын
it’s so funny watching colin talk so confident about stafford knowing damn well he ain’t watch no old lions games
@RUTHLESSambition5
@RUTHLESSambition5 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford is 7-71 vs .500+ teams and he's never won a playoff game. Funny how he never has pressure . I think I know why
@blackichan3866
@blackichan3866 2 жыл бұрын
@@RUTHLESSambition5 maybe cus of the constant coaching turnaround? No running game? Horrid defense? You know who was across Calvin in 2014? Khris Durham lol. Dude had near no help in Detroit.
@RUTHLESSambition5
@RUTHLESSambition5 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackichan3866 Damn u all have excuses😂😂 Good #1 picks get it done. He had Megatron,Tate and Suh and countless others. I love how u people give him an out. Funny how certain QBs have an excuses
@shaynagubert4156
@shaynagubert4156 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackichan3866 How many other QBs have dealt with that & had 0 excuses made? A LOT
@matthewstaffordsburner1040
@matthewstaffordsburner1040 2 жыл бұрын
@@RUTHLESSambition5 The season before Stafford got there the Lions won no games. When he’s been injured they won no games. Since he’s been gone they’ve won no games
@imrockndroll865
@imrockndroll865 2 жыл бұрын
First if Stafford wins a bowl or two, guaranteed gold jacket. Second Colin a week or two ago was talking down Matthew Stafford saying he wasn't that great now he is remarkable, make up your mind you flip flopper.
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford’s not a HoFer even with a SB. Too much of his career he spent with Detroit where he wasn’t winning.
@imrockndroll865
@imrockndroll865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Eli-ss9gj you're crazy look where he is on the all time passing list, and so far so good for his Rams career. You're telling me if he plays 4 or 5 more years and wins a super bowl or two...he wouldn't be a HOFer? That is crazy.
@ericthelambo9515
@ericthelambo9515 2 жыл бұрын
That's the stupidest thing I ever read
@ericthelambo9515
@ericthelambo9515 2 жыл бұрын
He wins he's a champ. Was Steve Young a loser for being on Tampa?
@imrockndroll865
@imrockndroll865 2 жыл бұрын
@@ericthelambo9515 thank you! Even without winning in Detroit he still put up all the stats now he is on a winning team. He still has to play well and end his career the right way but it seems all downhill from here to me.
@Kangasound
@Kangasound 2 жыл бұрын
Dude Collin hates this kid so much hahahah
@Rudis1515
@Rudis1515 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Colin's almost gloating about Baker's injury, I mean the whole damn team is hurt smh
@vikings_fans_anonymous
@vikings_fans_anonymous 2 жыл бұрын
*Browns get blown out tonight by Broncos bc half the team is hurt. Colin tomorrow - “Baker is holding this team back. Just look at his emotion on the sideline”
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile in the real world the Browns go out and beat Denver with an aging journeyman QB with a dead arm with backups RBs and the right tackle still out and he did every bit as well as Baker would have played And this is with the same OBJ that is such a curse for Baker that everyone uses it as an excuse for Baker's poor performance. The Browns didn't miss Baker one bit.
@strawjam59
@strawjam59 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottCleve33 a healthy Baker will score more points than Case Keenam, Baker is the better QB, Case does stay in the pocket and go thru his reads better and Baker should learn from him, it's just a seasoned veteran attribute.
@jhoreelantonio7121
@jhoreelantonio7121 2 жыл бұрын
Every day Colin talks about Baker but he doesn’t say anything about the real bust Sam Darnold. Ok
@colingordon5950
@colingordon5950 2 жыл бұрын
Darnold is way better than Baker first of all, and also wasn’t a first overall pick. So that MAY be a reason he doesn’t mention it.
@jhoreelantonio7121
@jhoreelantonio7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@colingordon5950 Dude look at Darnold last three games, totally awful
@colingordon5950
@colingordon5950 2 жыл бұрын
@@jhoreelantonio7121 Look at Baker's CAREER. Totally awful.
@jhoreelantonio7121
@jhoreelantonio7121 2 жыл бұрын
@@colingordon5950 wow!!! Hey Colin “Cowherd” Gordon, keep defending a bust! Jets made the right decision to traded him
@blazers4life994
@blazers4life994 2 жыл бұрын
Sam Darnold is better than Baker Mayfield, Keenum will do better for Cleveland. Mayfield blows.
@cyberhawk99
@cyberhawk99 2 жыл бұрын
When I was young, my father told me to never kick a man when he's down. It's easy to throw up Baker's stats when he's been playing hurt. It really shows a lot about one's character when you talk sheet about an injured player and hope he fails before he gets paid. WOW All because of your interview with Baker where he showed you up. Let your bruised ego heal Mr. Cowherd.
@emmanueloduntan3286
@emmanueloduntan3286 2 жыл бұрын
Freaking Facts!!!
@dylandylan5526
@dylandylan5526 2 жыл бұрын
No it’s before that he’s had it out for him ever since Baker was drafted ahead of Darnold because Colin is a USC homer
@holidaysupreme
@holidaysupreme 2 жыл бұрын
What else did your dad tell you
@executeordershills6654
@executeordershills6654 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy that I can feel the hate for baker through the screen
@androidqmusic1023
@androidqmusic1023 2 жыл бұрын
It's getting hard to ignore, it's gonna be interesting if Baker does a video addressing it
@popcultureodyssey4459
@popcultureodyssey4459 2 жыл бұрын
If Stafford wins a Super Bowl with the Rams and has 5 to 6 great years he should be a hall of famer. Especially if Philip Rivers can.
@user-vy2fy7gf9o
@user-vy2fy7gf9o 2 жыл бұрын
He has to win a Super Bowl or 2 with a passer rating at least 110. Average high 30s to low 40s TD's with at least 7 years of playing time in order to get in the HOF.
@dannygibson2597
@dannygibson2597 2 жыл бұрын
it's so corny for this dude to make baker his punching bag lmao baker has done nothing but exceed expectations a every point of his athletic career...nothing about him says he would be a starting NFL QB yet he is there...imagine being the guy who focus on the shortcomings of someone who's overcome everything
@chief9894
@chief9894 2 жыл бұрын
But Sam Darnold is a franchise QB and will save the Panthers, right Colin?
@LunaticTheCat
@LunaticTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
Ikr🤣
@dustinb.77
@dustinb.77 2 жыл бұрын
The season before Stafford was drafted, the Lions went 0-16... The season after Stafford was traded, the Lions will go 0-17... Detroit will never win with Ford as the owner...
@hide8653
@hide8653 2 жыл бұрын
It’s weird seeing how before everyone said staffords not that good and when he leaves it’s like “ohh Detroit ruined him” like yeah....that’s what every NFC North fan been saying for the last decade❗️
@TheRealMallard
@TheRealMallard 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, as a bears fan Stafford was so underrated and deserved so much better
@DIVISIONINCISION
@DIVISIONINCISION 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford is an upgrade over Goff. That's not hard to do, Hidester.
@mattiOTX
@mattiOTX 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh anyone in the NFC knew the lions wasted his talent.
@TheRealMallard
@TheRealMallard 2 жыл бұрын
@@DIVISIONINCISION Yeah but Stafford has been good for a long time is what he's saying. He's just now getting recognized as a great qb
@iNostraD
@iNostraD 2 жыл бұрын
I’m pretty sure most people agreed Detroit was ruining him, just like they ruined Megatron, just like they ruined Barry Sanders.
@PandasticVoyage
@PandasticVoyage 2 жыл бұрын
You can tell Colin's been salivating for Baker's downfall for years. And honestly, Baker keeps proving him right.
@007meechy9
@007meechy9 2 жыл бұрын
who says matt doesn’t have a tom brady like career and play for another decade with the Rams, and gets a gold jacket. because matt definitely wasn’t the issue with the lions
@markplaton84
@markplaton84 2 жыл бұрын
And their record this year proves it :) no matter what QB they use.
@kayedie6677
@kayedie6677 2 жыл бұрын
as a lions “””fan”””, stafford literally escaped from nfl’s gitmo and sticking with detroit for as long as he did was to his detriment, and i hope he wins in la because the lions need to pay for their sins 🤷‍♀️
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
Why did Stafford stay so long? Was he paid very well there?
@heathbasner9276
@heathbasner9276 2 жыл бұрын
As another lions fan i say the lions haven't sinned, it's the Ford family that has sinned against the lions fan nation many times over
@residentialninja113
@residentialninja113 2 жыл бұрын
Collin has wanted Baker out of the league for 4 years. They can't move off him if there isn't a better option. Collin is incapable of an unemotional take on Baker.
@finnley608
@finnley608 2 жыл бұрын
What's emotional about looking at his numbers and record? He's mediocre at best and a liability at worst
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
Literally nothing he said here is wrong. His stats are extremely average and he looks average to the eye too. Any opposition to this at this point is pretty emotional in itself, because reality says otherwise. Sorry.
@nicpayne8258
@nicpayne8258 2 жыл бұрын
@@finnley608 alright, what’s the plan?
@MRJOKER1570-
@MRJOKER1570- 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Colin actually had a reasonable Baker take for once today.
@dragonbrendan314
@dragonbrendan314 2 жыл бұрын
@@finnley608 he has the most losing 42+ games of any qb
@TheShadiestOne
@TheShadiestOne 2 жыл бұрын
“Over valued his athletic ability and tried to square up a safety and got hurt” fam lmao
@williamdillard5060
@williamdillard5060 2 жыл бұрын
As a Lifelong Detroit Lions fan I will always roll with my team but I am also pulling for one Matthew Stafford. I remember watching the draft on ESPN when The Lions selected him. I thought it was the prodigal son returning to the fold. We, TRUE Lions fans knew that Stafford had starred at the same HS our last great QB, Bobby Lane, starred at. I watched every single game of Matt Stafford's Lion career and I am proud to say that he PLAYED HARD EVERY GAME. Some of his 4th quarter comebacks would have my co workers and I boasting all week. Now just seeing Goff in just a few games, I see a quitter. Stafford NEVER EVER quit in 11 years, Goff has quit already. Of course I want The Lions to win Sunday, but it wouldn't bother me one bit if The Rams continue towards a ring.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
And now you see why the Rams traded Goff away even though it killed them financially. I was furious at that way overly generous contract the Rams gave Goff right after he threw a winnable super bowl away. A big shame.
@dougie313
@dougie313 2 жыл бұрын
they not two different players yall just starting to realize his greatness
@sweetgav9163
@sweetgav9163 2 жыл бұрын
Baker needs to sit the season out and get healthy.
@nlnbrewer
@nlnbrewer 2 жыл бұрын
"Outline your life in pencil, not pen" explains a lot about Colin's marriages
@CrysisOwnsHalo
@CrysisOwnsHalo 2 жыл бұрын
What are you implying?
@dl_0002
@dl_0002 2 жыл бұрын
All Lions fans knew for the past decade that Stafford was the man, and no one is surprised he's having great success in LA now. Finally he's getting the attention and appreciation he deserves, not to mention wins.
@androidqmusic1023
@androidqmusic1023 2 жыл бұрын
As a Panthers fan, I usually ignore the many comments about Collin being upsessed with Baker but now it's getting ridiculous! What did Baker do to you? Did he dump your daughter? It's getting weird & concerning how much he dislike Baker
@jackcooney1651
@jackcooney1651 2 жыл бұрын
Colin definitely paying guys to injure Baker to prove his points
@UnleashthePhury
@UnleashthePhury 2 жыл бұрын
Props to Colin for the correct usage of TD/INT ratio.
@mcurgs
@mcurgs 2 жыл бұрын
Tbh, if Staff plays at an elite level for another 5 or so years, wins some playoff games, maybe even a SB, and overall is viewed as one of the top QBs in the league for that time, theres no way he isnt getting into the HOF. Phillip Rivers has a very similar resume and like it or not, he's likely getting into the HOF
@mcurgs
@mcurgs 2 жыл бұрын
@Matthew that may be true, but the way the HOF has gone i think its a no brainer he gets in, prerty sure he's in the top 5 all time for passing yards and touchdowns, he's had some playoff success and played a long time, and in today's NFL thats enough to get in. I dont view him as like a dominant HOF caliber player but he's likely gonna get in, and staffs resume when its all said and done will probably by pretty similar
@DanTheFemaleFootMuncher
@DanTheFemaleFootMuncher 2 жыл бұрын
Sam darnold is a 70s passer rating bust let's discuss that.
@mikerivera373
@mikerivera373 2 жыл бұрын
See, the difference is that Sam Darnold is a *trunky coastal kid with a Midwest ethos™* unlike Baker who shouldn’t have even been drafted
@brendanadams1797
@brendanadams1797 2 жыл бұрын
I think Colin is a closet fan of Baker
@szn1580
@szn1580 2 жыл бұрын
He’s a closet something
@johnbrowntheprophet
@johnbrowntheprophet 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@jesusblanco7657
@jesusblanco7657 2 жыл бұрын
Nice always expect to see one of these comments in a Colin video when he talks about baker
@adamkarain4453
@adamkarain4453 2 жыл бұрын
I mean at this point Colin’s criticism of Baker is being justified.
@noahbutler9180
@noahbutler9180 2 жыл бұрын
It literally always has been baker was the fourth best QB in his draft class and now people are forced to see it and be honest about him
@loganerb3952
@loganerb3952 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahbutler9180 😂😂😂😂 just stop dude
@ErikCB912
@ErikCB912 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahbutler9180 4th best? I can see Lamar and Josh Allen, but who else is better?
@loganerb3952
@loganerb3952 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCB912 hes just trolling. It’s amazing how all his haters come out when he plays one bad stretch that he was clearly injured in
@noahbutler9180
@noahbutler9180 2 жыл бұрын
@@ErikCB912 honestly it’s Sam he has been putting up comparable stats on a team with less talent
@ctag45
@ctag45 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he’s taking how Baker is sooo average and then shows the amazing Stafford’s numbers. Which are basically identical. Of course Baker’s numbers aren’t great, he got drafted by the Browns
@sergiorenatoreyes6967
@sergiorenatoreyes6967 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford's numbers in detroit are identical to baker's but u cant compare the lions to the browns - one organization can compete and the other is the lions lol. Also, stafford in LA actually looks like a top 5 quarterback
@dmbgator86
@dmbgator86 2 жыл бұрын
Matt Stafford is light years better then Baker. Do you watch them play? It’s not close.
@Eli-ss9gj
@Eli-ss9gj 2 жыл бұрын
Stafford is a far superior QB.
@11Nosferatu11
@11Nosferatu11 2 жыл бұрын
Baker ain't the answer. I think we've seen enough. He's getting outplayed by rookies and first year guys who have less talent around them.
@Aanbrickalan
@Aanbrickalan 2 жыл бұрын
Rookies and first year guys are the same thing
@11Nosferatu11
@11Nosferatu11 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aanbrickalan word. I meant guys who are 1 year in.
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen Baker outplayed by backup QBs a few times.
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot
@Sir_Robin_of_Camelot 2 жыл бұрын
Using Rodgers to PIT as part of your argument is quite the stretch. You might still end up being right but wtf lol.
@DIVISIONINCISION
@DIVISIONINCISION 2 жыл бұрын
Rodgers would be loved in Pittsburgh. There'd be a parade!
@robertgernhardt5524
@robertgernhardt5524 2 жыл бұрын
If the browns can get Aaron Rodgers, than the browns should trade him with a fifth year otherwise is baker the best option for the Browns
@tedskins
@tedskins 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he won't say the Panthers need to move off Sam Darnold
@jakecarty8517
@jakecarty8517 2 жыл бұрын
Colin also says “we” when referring to LA despite only moving there less than a decade ago.
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
Well he does live there now, so...
@holyflygon
@holyflygon 2 жыл бұрын
"ignore baker with a great offensive line and oline look when they were injured." "stafford is a HOF on a team with a great oline and healthy weapons" lets see if stafford does they well with a banged oline on the rams before we say hes a HOF
@themackeytwo
@themackeytwo 2 жыл бұрын
Can we just move on from the Baker stuff? We GET IT he’s average and Colin doesn’t like him!
@slyde734
@slyde734 2 жыл бұрын
The Detroit Lions are where all hopes and dreams go to die.
@Okaysowhat12
@Okaysowhat12 2 жыл бұрын
Guaranteed if Baker turns around and becomes the qb the Browns and us fans need him to be, Colin will be one of the first ones to give him credit. Go Browns.
@tdsportscards
@tdsportscards 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy for Stafford....was a Lions fan for a long time...he left and so has my heart....would luv seeing Stafford in a Super Bowl
@LunaticTheCat
@LunaticTheCat 2 жыл бұрын
Baker has a torn labrum and broken shoulder, yet Colin is going to act like that has absolutely nothing to do with how he's played so far this season, and is going to completely ignore how good Baker was last season.
@ctag45
@ctag45 2 жыл бұрын
Finding someone with Baker’s insane self belief is rare. The Browns needed someone like Baker to get out of their 20 year slump. He’s not the best QB in the league but he believes in himself and his teammates
@YodaSmokes
@YodaSmokes 2 жыл бұрын
If the browns move off of Baker, they’ll be back to their usual browns, Aka 💩. Say what you want about baker, but he’s the most successful QB in the history of his franchise.
@staubach1979rt
@staubach1979rt 2 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of Otto Graham?
@johnbrowntheprophet
@johnbrowntheprophet 2 жыл бұрын
Otto Graham, Brian Sipe, Bernie Kosar, and Vinny Testaverde disagree.
@mspionage1743
@mspionage1743 2 жыл бұрын
Kelly Holcomb had more success dude.
@staubach1979rt
@staubach1979rt 2 жыл бұрын
I take my comment back...this is a different franchise than the original Cleveland Browns. My bad.
@AuraZ42
@AuraZ42 2 жыл бұрын
@@staubach1979rt lol. Yeah that team is the ravens, if I recall
@tacotacotington3638
@tacotacotington3638 2 жыл бұрын
Theres nothing wrong with a QB being loyal to their team and city. Not everyone has to jump ship every 5 seconds for the best chance to win. That's how you destroy smaller market teams and end up with just 4-5 teams people care about like the NBA has done.
@connorpena373
@connorpena373 2 жыл бұрын
“Vegas thinks Stafford doesn’t make that big of a difference. They moved the line .5 games because of Stafford.” - Colin Cowherd
@shaynagubert4156
@shaynagubert4156 2 жыл бұрын
I like Stafford, but people like Colin are going to make me a hater. Putting the stats from 5 games against 12 years is wild & not every really good QB should be a hall of famer! It's rare! Eli Manning is 9th all-time in passing yards with 2 rings & is still borderline because he had some bad seasons! The hall of famers are the best of that generation of football! He was drafted in 2008... From 2008 to 2021 who have been the most dominant players? So far, he's not among the players who have defined this generation of football. I'm sorry, but he's just not!
@maxfleming5969
@maxfleming5969 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Baker Mayfield is getting a check. He is 70% of the football talk on this show...
@TheCEOXPerience
@TheCEOXPerience 2 жыл бұрын
Move off Baker? What are your options then? Go back to 25 years of qb carousel? He's the best QB they have had in 25 years.
@scruffd0g193
@scruffd0g193 2 жыл бұрын
Unless the Browns are getting Aaron Rodgers, they are stuck with Baker.
@ErikID142
@ErikID142 2 жыл бұрын
I unironically love Colin's segments on Baker.
@manny75586
@manny75586 2 жыл бұрын
Trubisky had comparable numbers to Mayfield and no one in Chicago questioned the decision to move off of him. If Cleveland is fine with this performance, they may as well let Mayfield walk and sign Trubisky for cheap next year. You'll literally get the same or better numbers.
@ashtonperez4614
@ashtonperez4614 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah because the browns are actually going to consider getting rid of the best qb they've had in 20 years
@timothyantoine5321
@timothyantoine5321 2 жыл бұрын
He was the wrong #1 pick in the 2018 draft . John Dorsey blew the 2018 draft .
@tristinmcnemar8910
@tristinmcnemar8910 2 жыл бұрын
Goff for Baker this off-season?.. we’ve seen what Goff can do with talent around him
@calirondon23
@calirondon23 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry Colin but not sorry. Baker isn't going anywhere. He stays. He's ours. He's a Cleveland Brown
@scottdoane7595
@scottdoane7595 2 жыл бұрын
Im no Baker Mayfield fan, but don't you dare bad mouth a QB for trying to make a tackle on a pick or jumping on a fumbled ball. Because the second you don't, others are going to jump all over you for being soft. Looking at Cam Newton fumble in Superbowl. Disgraceful.
@brainsmasher6617
@brainsmasher6617 2 жыл бұрын
Congratulations to Baker Mayfield for getting drafted no.1 in the NFL. I watched most of his games in college. He didn't impress me as a guy whose schtick would work on the next level
@brianhorst5860
@brianhorst5860 2 жыл бұрын
Real question and i want a real answer. Who are you replacing Baker with in Cleveland? I get it Baker is not perfect but neither was Dax when his contract was up but the Cowboys said who is going to replace Dax.
@mikerivera373
@mikerivera373 2 жыл бұрын
And now, Dak is living up to his contract. So could Baker also live up to a massive contract?
@bensztainberg8241
@bensztainberg8241 2 жыл бұрын
Colin, you're just now realizing this about stafford? Thought you said he "wasn't that much better than Goff," thought you said "I've heard all this about talent, where are the wins?" and now you finally admit that it was an organization issue, admit that you were wrong before don't act like you had it right all along
@joshuablanco5312
@joshuablanco5312 2 жыл бұрын
Collins been speaking like the wisest man on the planet “write you life with pencil not pen”
@robysexton15
@robysexton15 2 жыл бұрын
Move On To Who ? IS the question Cleveland has had 22 qbs before Baker Now You Move On To ?
@kup4ever
@kup4ever 2 жыл бұрын
We have terrible owners in Detroit. Mrs. Ford doesn't give a damn about winning games. They have been just bleeding whatever little money the city has left with no intention on being competitive
@TsherrooumOfficial
@TsherrooumOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
Colin mentioning Cincinnati not having an indoor practice facility😂😂
@legitdragon6202
@legitdragon6202 2 жыл бұрын
*Baker about to go under for surgery* *Colin pulling down mask* Baker - "Colin?!" Colin- "Just had to take this opportunity to twist the knife once again..."
@hunterdelay3092
@hunterdelay3092 2 жыл бұрын
Browns finna go through another 20 quarterbacks before they get someone good as baker
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 2 жыл бұрын
Let's stop pretending that there weren't any QBs as good as Baker in those first 20 QBs. Probably a good 5 of them. They just weren't carried by a running combo of Chubb and Hunt.
@hunterdelay3092
@hunterdelay3092 2 жыл бұрын
@@ScottCleve33 bro I’m a browns fan, the browns can’t start another 20 year process of looking for a better qb. Move off obj let baker spread the ball around. People forget 1-31 before baker
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 2 жыл бұрын
@@hunterdelay3092 Either start the process of finding a QB that has the talent to win a SB or you spend the next 10 years wishing you had. Not wanting to find another QB isn't a good excuse for sticking with one that's not good enough. I remember 1-31 very well. I remember the embarrassing fans who had a parade for 0-16. Don't assume that because Baker arrived here after that 1-31 means that he was the one who saved us. Remember a lot of other players arrived here after that 1-31 as well. Chubb and Hunt in particular. Do we keep every player who arrived after the 1-31 because they must be the reason why we improved?
@gods_sun626
@gods_sun626 2 жыл бұрын
If Baker knows about Colin, I bet he hates Colin with a passion
@JoeRyMi
@JoeRyMi 2 жыл бұрын
It won’t be a Stafford-Goff link, it’ll be Stafford and whoever the two #1’s are. I don’t think anyone believes Goff was anything other than stop-gap. Rodgers to Pittsburg would be so boring.
@lukeshelton5673
@lukeshelton5673 2 жыл бұрын
Never forget when Colin didn’t see the hype of stafford going to the rams
@LA_Commander
@LA_Commander 2 жыл бұрын
At least Skip and Shannon did. They gave that trade an A+
@scotthall7585
@scotthall7585 2 жыл бұрын
It is kinda funny. Never looked at Stafford as elite of any kind but had respect for him. Now I see him as a championship caliber qb
@carterbordwell7350
@carterbordwell7350 2 жыл бұрын
Um... 1. Lamar 2. Joe Burrow or Baker Mayfield (Take your pick) 3. Anyone who has the ability to pick up a football. 4. Mid-size Ben
@mspionage1743
@mspionage1743 2 жыл бұрын
If they could get Deshaun I would be okay with it but nobody else available is worth even half of Baker.
@thedude7683
@thedude7683 2 жыл бұрын
Cam newton is arguably an upgrade
@oneinchpen2372
@oneinchpen2372 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedude7683 you’re funny
@wilkic2
@wilkic2 2 жыл бұрын
@@thedude7683 do you think the earth is arguably flat as well?
@EternalReich88
@EternalReich88 2 жыл бұрын
Aaron Rodgers
@thedude7683
@thedude7683 2 жыл бұрын
@@wilkic2 no but a healthy cam is better than an injured baker
@delbertphillips5124
@delbertphillips5124 2 жыл бұрын
This dude has absolutely feasted on Mayfield! Don't you wonder what he'll have to talk about in league without Baker Mayfield?
@realisreal7736
@realisreal7736 2 жыл бұрын
The Browns should only move on from Baker if and only if they can sign Rodgers. Otherwise keep Baker Mayfield, give him the max extension.
@aldohattonduran5227
@aldohattonduran5227 2 жыл бұрын
An someone please explain to me why EVERY take is Baker Baker Baker... it’s friggin Thursday and it’s all 3 takes a day every day Colin asks the same questions to every guest in every take, it’s pretty pathetic
@donrobinson5662
@donrobinson5662 2 жыл бұрын
Damn....Colin speaking the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth on this topic!!
@Hballa34
@Hballa34 2 жыл бұрын
Baker separated shoulder 4x this season Colin: Thats no excuse!! He should be playing better!!!!
@pulamea5564
@pulamea5564 2 жыл бұрын
Baker lives rent-free in Colon Cowturd's head.
@323johnnybravo
@323johnnybravo 2 жыл бұрын
Top notch QBs with arm talent can play till 40. Stafford has time.
@Jack958
@Jack958 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like Jamie Lannister when Joffrey roasts his entries into the book of the kings guard and he replies there’s still time…. Stafford will have his day there’s still time
@classicallyimportant
@classicallyimportant 2 жыл бұрын
Who would the browns get instead
@tacotruck5009
@tacotruck5009 2 жыл бұрын
Colin coward should qb for them.
@classicallyimportant
@classicallyimportant 2 жыл бұрын
@Bill Monty and what do you say brown s tank get a top 10 pick lamar jackson is not falling again Tom Brady is not falling again
@PH-lr2mp
@PH-lr2mp 2 жыл бұрын
Colin say move off clumsily not athletically not great Baker average baker
@lakerskid2013
@lakerskid2013 2 жыл бұрын
Just shut him down, really what’s there to lose? Think about this, Case Keenum’s familiar with Kevin Stefanski back in Minnesota. He had his best season of his career in 2017 having him as his offensive coordinator. If Keenum can even get back to half of his 2017 form, that would be as good as a fully healthy Baker when he has OBJ on the field. Not saying Case is better, but in the current situation he would be the most beneficial for the team over an injured Baker.
@westcoastjez
@westcoastjez 2 жыл бұрын
I love how much Colin hates Baker, I don't understand it and I don't agree with it but I do love this unjustified bitter hatred!
@Nikkerman
@Nikkerman 2 жыл бұрын
Get off baker because he got injured once? That Hail Mary at the end of half was a beautiful throw that told you all you need to know.
@tristinmcnemar8910
@tristinmcnemar8910 2 жыл бұрын
Are we really gonna pretend the lions were ever winning Colin? They were terrible with Stafford even when they surrounded him with pro bowlers and future hall of famers, a top 3 defense and Reggie Bush. He is pedestrian at best
@bziganti
@bziganti 2 жыл бұрын
The very last point he makes is important. You know what is a competent franchise now? The Browns- and part of that is Baker Mayfield
@ScottCleve33
@ScottCleve33 2 жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that Baker was drafted under the failed front office by the guys responsible for them going 0-16. The new front office responsible for them making the playoffs were given Baker. Also keep in mind that this same front office also hasn't offered Baker a contract extension. That being said I don't think Baker is part of the competent franchise that was mentioned so much as a part of the incompetent franchise that has yet to be fixed yet.
@cB-pu5dn
@cB-pu5dn 2 жыл бұрын
I mean it's alot of QBs that would do wonders with that team no doubt...don't have blind loyalty ... ill shoot for Deshaun, Roger's, Kirk, Matty Ice ...
@k1ngfalcongaming783
@k1ngfalcongaming783 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Atlanta would have traded Matt Ryan to LA instead. We wasted Matt's career in Atlanta.
@morckthedooorknob4991
@morckthedooorknob4991 2 жыл бұрын
QBs should make tackles for their teams
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