Stage3 Ford Focus ST Dyno Test [Dynamometer // How Much Horsepower?]

[@gonedeep43]

There are trucks out there that wished they had 371 ft lbs of torque. That's brutal.

[@milsgarage]

@Thomas Whitmore 💯

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Thats "lb-ft" of torque. There is a difference.

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

Dial the boost back and get 10hp back. Hp is what wins races not tq.

[@lewismcfarcry]

@@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq Torque gets you off the line, hp wins the race.

[@The_Animal_Man]

@@lewismcfarcry if its fwd, torque isn't hugely important

[@stephan97]

That’s about 300 crank hp, not bad at all. I just feel like Cobb charges a lot of money for stage 3 power package

[@milsgarage]

Cobb is the master of charging a fortune lol... Their designs are so nice doe. Are you building a Focus ST?

[@stephan97]

Mils Garage nope, I was racing a focus st and was seeing how they compare. I have a Volkswagen Jetta GLI, a Stage 1 tune brought it from 210 to 272 hp and 300tq, I’m trying to go APR stage 2 so I’ll be at 300hp

[@Challechallechalle]

@@stephan97 nice whip dogg. Tryna find u in my ST tho.

[@Mattvarville]

That’s like stage 3 of stage 1 because he has no actual engine upgrades, fuel systems and upgraded turbo would be stage 2

[@chrisd933]

That’s not bad at all man with a 15 percent drivetrain loss 264 would put you at 303 to the crank. Civic type R hp with more torque.

[@milsgarage]

Right? Jeff's just salty it's not Lambo power 😂. One day Jeff.. One day..

[@coolk9dogs]

Type Rs are like 312hp and that's only like a 15hp gain with a tune.. tbh I thought would be way more lol

[@gonedeep43]

Living up to the Torque Beast Hype. Time for a bigger turbo. The max you'll get from the Stock turbo is only around 300hp. And then you're risking damage to your engine.

[@momynator3000]

@@coolk9dogs that’s type r crank hp not wheel hp and these cars are rated at 252 crank so 270 hp is a huge gain

[@mocskoskukorica]

this measure already showed the HP with drivetrain loss as it was calculated at the beginning of the procedure by making a running out measure with the gearbox in neutral. I more assume this engine from factory was nearby the min.performance level around 230bhp but still with this stage3 upgrade needs to be fine tuned a bit to be around 280.

[@charlesjames1442]

That will extrapolate to about 300 to 310 net. The torque figure is amazing! Better than my Mountune MP-275 @ 326 ftlbs.

[@logantorchick2593]

Sounds like it needs a turbo upgrade. The KO2’s are really good in the low end hence why he got ~360ft lbs. And honestly ~250whp isn’t bad with that turbo when you take into consideration that the stock crank numbers from factory are 250bhp and if it was stock you’d probably be getting ~230whp max. A bigger turbo would get you higher horse power but you’re most likely gonna lose that ~360ft lbs of torque.

[@milsgarage]

yeah, Jeff said that too 😂

[@Challechallechalle]

k03***********************

[@NeverB_Gameover]

I made 270 on a dyno jet with intercooler, intake and turbo back exhaust.

[@milsgarage]

dude, i need a symbiote suit like yours. 270's pretty sweet. 👏😎 awesome work! the torque in these cars is nuts

[@dodgepower5270]

Charger, Corona, La Familia ! Have you had any issues?

[@Motherofchicken]

Mils Garage i had a guy dyno at 309 on E85 with meth and 342 with a 150 shot.

[@imjessaying7385]

@@Motherofchicken on a ST that’s cap. I’m on a 75 shot at 370whp

[@SupraRy]

Just go e85 if you want to bump up those HP numbers bud, still respectable numbers though in my opinion. It may need some timing thrown at it, it is running pretty rich.

[@itsjusta2v198]

SupraRy ya don’t really wanna run e85 in the st unless your running methanol injection cause the carbon buildup on the valves is bad enough on 93 e85 is a extremely dirty gas

[@baileyquick6]

@@itsjusta2v198 Stratified Automotive states you can run up to E30 on these cars no issue. I have a combo 93 E30 tune and am just waiting to get out to the nearest place with E85. Only bc I live in bum fuck Egypt. But then you mix 85 and 93 Oct. and you're set to run that tune.

[@voncannizzaro1759]

so i just got my car dyno today. i’m stage 3 pushing 254 whp and 350 wheel torque. i have intercooler, downpipe, exhaust and that’s it. tuner recommended putting in a aftermarket waste gate and go e30 and should make around 280-290ish

[@milsgarage]

awesome work! 🤟😎👍 your build sounds legit af. are you tracking the car?

[@voncannizzaro1759]

Mils Garage i was just surprised how low my power was just like Jeff, but the tuner broke it down for me to understand. These cars can get decent power, but they have torque like a damn truck lol and yeah next around spring time i’ll go e30 go to the track and get some times down. big turbo also coming next year.

[@milsgarage]

for sure, the torque is crazy high! Jeff's been talking about needing to go big turbo ever since the dyno 😂. definitely lmk your track times when you get around to running. i can try to get Jeff to run against your numbers :D

[@voncannizzaro1759]

Mils Garage for sure bud! yeah big turbo isn’t a rush for me. Jeff should definitely go get a wastegate and e30 as well. he will definitely feel and see improvement. Well this should be fun lol. where are you guys from

[@milsgarage]

yeah buddy! we're in Wilmington, Delaware. are you in the area?

[@chris-la-z-boy6936]

Honestly 264 at the wheels isn't bad for the work we did Jeff but there is other things we can do beside the bigger turbo but also I'll like to know why does ur car run so rich.

[@23ericgarner]

Thats 264 to the wheels. You're probably close to 300 to the crank

[@milsgarage]

@23ericgarner 💯👍

[@milsgarage]

released 3.5 hours ago and already has 1 dislike. MG's jealousy game is strong. 💪😎👍

[@jennykennypants]

Did he have a tune on this car? If so why did he only make 264

[@Bikini_ST]

Theres many things that can make a hp figure lower. Type of dyno, ambient air, fuel quality, etc. Stage 3 makes around 280whp on a cool day. 264 is not far off.

[@milsgarage]

@@jennykennypants yeah buddy, that's how we know what stage mapping he was running. he's been looking to go big turbo ever since he saw the dyno lol

[@SasquatchS550]

This is exactly why you don't go by stages. Never bothered with "stage" packages and my MS3 made just under 400whp. All you need is aux fueling, a bigger turbo, and some bolt ons. I was e30 with a BNR S3. Shocked a lot of people who put twice as much into theirs and I made way more power lol

[@milsgarage]

i called the video what i did for SEO purposes. i’m a strong marketer 💪

[@milsgarage]

Sweet work with your build sir 💯. i used to have a MS3 too. What size turbo did you go with?

[@SasquatchS550]

@@milsgarage yea I'm not knocking your build route just stating why I stayed away from the stage packages. I went with the BNR S3 which is just one step up from the k04. Not sure what it translates to size wise.

[@milsgarage]

@Preston Sass Cool, i’ma have to look that up 👍 Jeff was pretty disappointed tbh lol. He figured all the money he dropped on the names would end up with a higher output. imo, you did actually go with a better and more efficient route for power gains. i also think it would have helped if Ford stuck with the 2.3L that they put in the MS3s lol. All the companies seem to be shrinking their engines again

[@SasquatchS550]

@@milsgarage all he needs is a turbo now and he'll be pushing 50 more hp and hit that 400tq easy. It sucks that Ford didn't take notes on how well Mazda did with the MS3s 2.3t. To my knowledge, Mazda had much more input on that engine then Ford did. Would probably explain why it was such a good motor lol.

[@donaldmcronald6796]

Hell, if you want hp increase, try adding a 2.3 stroker with an upgraded turbo (haven't done all to much research, but I'm seeing people using the pte5558 and 5858). It's going to be a shit ton of money and time, but it will get the job done and some more.

[@mibrown9932]

St's the hold back after stage 3 is the turbo unfortunately. Only way to see 300 wheel is with turbo upgrade. The way I look at it though, car makes more torque than most trucks so something positive.

[@milsgarage]

yessir! the toque is great, but ever since the video, Jeff's been talking about needing to go big turbo 😂

[@rexrst]

Nice. I have 305hp crank and 495nm of torque (for safety reasons) after custom tune, catless 3" dp (overkill) and RS intercooler. RON 98 fuel. I think for your mods that's as near the top as you can get.

[@milsgarage]

Awesome, and smart Maciej 💪 Sounds like you’ve invested a lot of time into figuring out all the bottlenecks. Great work 👍👍👍

[@rexrst]

@@milsgaragethanks but it's just common knowledge from Guys like you and other youtubers. My only concern is how much they charge for these stage3 sets and how good the "copy-paste" tune from the Access Port is. My stage 3 cost me around 1000$ but the tune in with full AFR and EGT check. How many miles have you got after the upgrades?

[@milsgarage]

@Maciej Szarek They are definitely costly.. Especially with all the name brands. i can ask Jeff. It's been a little while since we shot the episode. How about you? How long have you been rocking the upgrades?

[@kennymtena9110]

I am using RS intercooler and give it a lot of WOT the temps don’t even go high enough for me to worry lol worth of 120 then after market intercoolers

[@kishonemaraj6879]

Sounds awesome the car looks great 👍

[@milsgarage]

thank you for your support Kishone! 🤟😎👍

[@jmcvq3594]

Hahahahaha I allways smash the like button after you said you if you maid it this far. Nice video Remember stay safe See ya on the next video

[@milsgarage]

thanks buddy! stay awesome 😎👍

[@uchiha_d1334]

Great numbers man. Just enough to get beat my a all motor Honda.

[@milsgarage]

Yo, really?? Wow! That’s impressive. What are you running?

[@rechargegamesstudio2803]

elevator music killed it

[@milsgarage]

lol 😂👍 thanks Aron!

[@TurboK24z]

Great video. Here because my classmate was dead set his ST could win against my Turboed Si. Boy is he wrong.

[@milsgarage]

i would love to see that match 💯

[@TurboK24z]

@@milsgarage he's out of state in same class. So he only has a rental. But here's me versus a Stage 3 Mazadaspeed3. Stage 3 Mazda and Focus St are basically the same. Starting @ 1:10. His high TQ keeps up with me but I eventually walk away due to higher HP kzbin.info/www/bejne/ioDVmIuqhsiMqpY

[@alexmaccity]

If its pump gas thats expected. Got a nice safe tune, and build. The high torque is nice for the low end of the gear. Wont make the 270 or even "251" on stock until 5800 anyway. Gotta run meth to get the higher hp or nos. Thats what spacers are for.

[@jeffcrossan2680]

Alex Mac hey man you right and it’s on 93

[@alexmaccity]

I just dont get why people are obsessed with running lower octane fuels in the st/rs. And complain about it when they run into issues. I did find a guy with an e80 or something tuned rs that claims its bulletproof. Idk what i want to do with mine yet. Its still stock and under warranty

[@chrisd933]

That jacket was fly

[@milsgarage]

idk if this is the same one, but it looks really similar [ www.cjponyparts.com/hoodie-pull-over-black-with-red-st-logo/p/CJ1520-V/ ]

[@ultimaartz-justinm.70]

the only sad part is tht stock it makes around 245ish

[@xDuHhClan]

UltimaArtz - Justin M. Negative, thats to crank not to wheels. To wheels theyre pushing around 220

[@ultimaartz-justinm.70]

@@xDuHhClan yeah 245 to the crank and 300 to the crank on stage 3. When i got mine dynod it was making 271 to the wheeles, so i spend about 1,600 to gain 40hp :/

[@metasploited5790]

@@ultimaartz-justinm.70 it be like that sometimes

[@Quiet_Lantern]

Dude bro im in the fred burg! Saturn Vue on Rt 3 panda style ZZP style!

[@milsgarage]

@Nasoa's Gaming Sweet! But also, wat? Who drive car? What? Panda drive car! Big American party, everybody disco dancing!

[@itsjusta2v198]

I’ve got the same stuff other that the throttle body and down pipe and I made 264 wheel and 311 ft lb torque

[@milsgarage]

So if we go by those numbers, the TB and DP essentially added 60 torque? Sounds right. Depending on how the tune changed the psi, i imagine Jeff could benefit from higher boost and an upgraded fuel setup, but that usually means building the internals too

[@itsjusta2v198]

Mils Garage yup sounds right

[@awhitness]

Also he dyno'd in the wrong gear. It should have been 5th not 4th gear. In 5th it would be about around 5 more whp.

[@milsgarage]

did he?? getting dyno'd wasn't cheap! they better have done it correctly! anyone else able to second this 5th vs 4th gear dyno pull stuff??

[@awhitness]

@@milsgarage Let me rephrase - its not wrong to dyno in 4th. but the way this dyno works you should get a higher reading in 5th. 4th gear overall ratio is 4.14 to 1 (99mph) while 5th gear overall ratio is 3.30 to 1. (125mph) . back in the day with LS1 Fbodies you would switch from 3.42s to 4.10s and loose about 10hp on the dyno. I could be completly wrong and that everyone is doing 4th gear pulls, or maybe on the Focus it doesnt matter.

[@milsgarage]

i've been meaning to learn more about how to run dyno's but haven't buckled down on it yet.. i can't recall, but i'm pretty sure the car is a 6MT. not sure if that changes which gear you think it should be in 🤷‍♂️

[@awhitness]

@@milsgarage Yeah, basically on a dyno they can go up to 200mph, but for a turbo car you dont want to be in boost to olong for heat issues. The Focus ST is 6mt. Top speed of 4th is 100mph while 5th is 125mph. Honestly 5th to me would be perfect on a dyno, still safe and best reading . I was thinking of an easy way to explain why the reading would be different in 5th, here it goes.... Your on a 10 speed bicycle in 1st gear coasting at 10mph. Now you pedal as hard and as fast as you can. The pedals would be maxed out almost in an instant. Now you do the same test on the bicycle but in 4th gear. It will take longer to max out and you will be able to generate more power because there is more resistance. Get it? If the engine revs up to quickly on the dyno , it wont show the engines true power.

[@milsgarage]

yeah, stretching the band out over a longer length of time w/o reaching heat soak sounds like the most solid reading. that makes sense. thank you for that breakdown 🤟😎👍 very cool

[@lewismcfarcry]

Damn, makin over 400 to the crank, nice ST!

[@milsgarage]

That's what i think too! Jeff's the only one sad about this lol

[@lewismcfarcry]

@@milsgarage I wound up trading my ST for a Ram 3500 with the 6.7 Cummins. Miss that car, though the 3500 pulls just as hard, with over 1,000 lbs of torque. Lol

[@rollsroyceroyce7463]

400? 300 to the crank is what you meant? It only made 264 to the wheels which is 300 to the crank

[@milsgarage]

@ROLLS ROYCE 264? i thought it was 274.. Haven't watched the video in a while and couldn't remember whether it was 274 or 374.. You're right with your numbers though 👍

[@lewismcfarcry]

@@rollsroyceroyce7463 You're right, over 300hp to the crank, not 400. My bad, that's what some drinks'll do to your eyesight. Lol Still some good numbers.

[@Josefrancisco1224]

Drone it’s crazy

[@mitchellmyers1020]

Torque wins races. Horsepower sells cars. Torque over horsepower all day man. You should be happy with the numbers, not sad.

[@milsgarage]

yessir! 👏😎 💯

[@jeffcrossan2680]

mitchell myers you right i over looked it at the time

[@THEFIFTHDIMENTION]

My next upgrade is the turbo im exited. Im going for the cheap bnr st71 for 1700. That will get me to 350sh torque and whp

[@milsgarage]

Awesome 🤘🤘🤘

[@ericserrano6837]

My st has the cobb stage 3 package with a pro tune and mine put 275 to the wheels

[@milsgarage]

Nice 👍👍👍

[@keithfreeman4015]

Do you have enough stuff on your dash? Sweet ride.

[@milsgarage]

LOL he did kinda go a lil overboard, ya think? 😂 thank you for your support Keith!

[@zacharylebreton3469]

Hey I like that hoodie! We have a lot of Similar parts! That's dope! Lmk if you want an ST hat

[@df9834]

Thought it might have made a bit more hp. Still a awesome car though, I have a 2013 st 3 in the uk 🇬🇧. And a very decent tuning company offering 280 bhp on a stock st for £300 , what do ya think, value for money? Obviously not at the wheels.

[@milsgarage]

Awesome! Jeff says he spent $170 on the tune and he felt it was worth it, but also says that at the equivalent $336[£300] it may not be worth it.. It's interesting to me that $130 difference would seemingly change his recommendation. What all have you done to the car so far? The more you've modded, the more i think you'll benefit from the tune, but gains will definitely peak at the turbo's limits

[@milsgarage]

Also, thank you for finding us over in the UK 💯 🤟😎👍

[@LiveKixHD]

Do you need a cold air intake for stage 3? I have a green air filter and a ram air intake snorkel thing, I have all the other stuff like intercooler downpipe and catback I’m just curious if I’ll be ok with the stock intake considering a “cold air intake” will just be pulling air from the engine bay instead of the factory air box pulling kind of from the grille

[@milsgarage]

i'm not an expert on power figures with the platform.. With a Mazdaspeed3 and Ram Air Intake, you can get great numbers too.. The idea of Staged Tunes are an old idea, and most people will simply tune the car for whatever numbers the tuner can pull out of the setup

[@LiveKixHD]

@@milsgarage ok thank you, im in the process of getting a custom E-tune through jstuning based off the modifications I have just so I can be sure the tune is made specifically for what I have done on my car. Gives me more peace of mind.

[@PsychoticAnarchist69]

Ayyyyy lets go delaware! You guys from around that area? I’m in newark!

[@milsgarage]

Yep, we're in Newark too! We'll be out to the 273 meets once i get the G registered 💯

[@PsychoticAnarchist69]

Mils Garage thats awesome man! Best of luck!

[@milsgarage]

Thanks! Are you working on a build?

[@PsychoticAnarchist69]

Mils Garage lol dude I’m in college I don’t have money. I’d love to but I’ve also only got an old sel unfortunately. Looking to grab a ranger at some point and build it up for off-roading. Fingers crossed I can get one soon!

[@milsgarage]

Cool. Well keep up the good work :)

[@chrisgonzales7163]

I have a 2014 ST1 with 98 k miles and a brand new stock turbo with 5k miles on that. The car is completely stock. I was just wondering what kind of HP is hitting the road on an all stock ST. Supposedly losing 15%, that would come to about 215 to 222 hp. Do you guys have an idea what a bone stock ST is putting to the pavement?

[@milsgarage]

15% drivetrain loss sounds reasonable. All cars are gonna put down slightly different numbers, but we never dyno’d a stock ST

[@chrisgonzales7163]

@@milsgarage Thank you.

[@milsgarage]

Any time Chris 🤘🤘🤘

[@keithmenzer6454]

That exhaust smoke is nasty. Should’ve gone catted

[@ThatNewGenHatch]

I never dynod mine but id like to see what it makes now

[@milsgarage]

yeah? you're running Stage2, right? i'm wondering the same. where are you located?

[@ThatNewGenHatch]

Mils Garage oh no LOL I used to be about a year-and-a-half ago , my car has been built from the ground up . Sleeves, rods ,cams, Pistons, bigger turbo, 4 port injection . everything that you possibly think about it just don't know how much it's gonna to put down

[@milsgarage]

awesome! which turbo did you go with?

[@ThatNewGenHatch]

Mils Garage i went with a Gtx3076r

[@milsgarage]

nice! the specs i am hearing from people is to expect around 350~400hp from that turbo on a fully built focus ST.. so when's your dyno scheduled for?

[@The_Animal_Man]

I'm guessing your putting 300hp to the crank before drivetrain loss but from stock to stage 3 is only a 50hp increase though? still a great car though

[@milsgarage]

Yeah, that sounds right 👍 i feel like the manufacturers nearly max out the tune for their tiny 2.0L engines these days. Back in 2005, a 2.0 was making only ~180hp, but they suddenly bumped the numbers to 250 around 2010. Now they moved to the 2.3L just like i had in my Mazdaspeed3, and the stock numbers are +100hp more what they gave me back in 2008

[@chicagoui9299]

So, keeping the numbers in mind, how well does the ST respond to a bigger turbo? Just asking as I’m looking at these as a future car once I garage my Saab.

[@milsgarage]

i’m not sure what the upper limits of the stock internals are, but some of these guys in the comments might have a good idea 🤔

[@naratouzumaki]

I mean you can get this thing to 800hp with a 2.5 stroker and considering the price and the price of the car its not expensive

[@rexrst]

I'm now on hybrid turbo. 355hp and 550nm. Been like that for the last 20k km and bo probs. Run daily and quite hard.

[@adamrunyan4762]

On a stock turbo there quick ignore that 267 or whatever because I can beat 600whp cars in my st all day I promise

[@gonedeep43]

Torque Monster!!!

[@milsgarage]

lol It's true. 💪💪💪

[@oceanhome2023]

You don’t know shit until you have your stock start numbers then you will see how much you improved .

[@milsgarage]

💯

[@vincematarese0610]

Also y’all channel is awesome you should feature my wrx sometime

[@milsgarage]

thanks buddy! what year wrx do you have, and what all have you done to it so far? :)

[@milsgarage]

a 2014 one? .. i see so many cars 😂.. well, with those mods, i imagine you're shooting fire sometimes? do you have instagram?

[@milsgarage]

no social media?? that's just crazy. lol .. we'll have to all meet up sometime. maybe one of the 273 meets or something

[@milsgarage]

i got an idea; you wanna come do a couple runs with us at Cecil County one of these days? we're planning on running Jeff's car soonish

[@vincentlevitt6820]

Well I feel Jeff on that one. $3kplus parts only 15hp gain with 25.5psi boost and a "tune". Ya I feel his pain. With no gain. I bet he had a thought of at least 320hp. So how do we get there Jeff?

[@jeffcrossan2680]

Vincent Levitt 320hp was never a thought my thought was close to 300hp but yeah i know lol and get a bigger turbo. But I’m okay not wanting to spend 2G on a turbo lol

[@milsgarage]

@Jeff Crossan Only $2K? What kits you looking into?

[@jeffcrossan2680]

Mils Garage they go around that price..... Go fund me account lmfao

[@milsgarage]

@Jeff Crossan O_O $2K is a steal. Are people paying for builds on those sites now?? lol

[@daltonrussell5277]

That power was at the wheels 🤦‍♂️

[@enthuzst6143]

the torque is really good!! I have same mods different brands and im only making 317 torque and 270hp tuned by SQC tuning and I live in New Mexico which there's only 91 pump gas and e85 is hard to find

[@milsgarage]

Yeah? Wow awesome! Finally someone able to tune in with a similar setup! Very cool. What are the other brands? i feel like Jeff picks out expensive parts lol

[@enthuzst6143]

Mils Garage i’ve got garret intercooler, stage 2 intake from afe, cts turbo downpipe, SCT x4 tuner, 63 mm throttle body from damond motorsport, boomba intake manifold spacer, steeda throttle body spacer, MSD coils, and borla exhaust

[@MasterCarguy44-pk2dq]

25.6 psi on the stock turbo??? Did I hear that right. Turbo will not last long at 95% peak boost of that little k03. Its outsudebits power making range too. 22 psi is about it.

[@milsgarage]

@MasterCarguy44 🤔 Yeah? Build it, break it, build it, break it.. lol i dunno, but yeah, that sounds right 😂👍

[@FOX11GUY]

People spend a ton on unnecessary BRANDS on parts. I saved thousands buying the same metal parts from budget manufacturers LOL! I just need a proper dyno tune to balance my low hp high tq.

[@milsgarage]

Yeah, that's a lesson i learned when i was younger.. Now i pick and choose where i spend the larger dollars. Sometimes there is no better alternative than a really well made brand part

[@adamzimmerman2464]

I wonder how much the 0-60 time is improved with the stage 3 tune

[@adamrunyan4762]

I beat mustangs with the 5.0 all day and the ss Camaros now the hellcats there slow from a 50 roll but from start they can beat a st stage 3

[@alexispadilla2606]

​@@adamrunyan4762 lol no

[@adamrunyan4762]

@@alexispadilla2606 I got proof the st had no grip the mustang did at least from the start but a rolling start not a chance in hell it would keep up also my truck stays with them 🤣

[@vincematarese0610]

Yo Jeff it’s Vinnie did they do the tune on your car

[@jeffcrossan2680]

Vince Matarese no they wanted like around 500 for the tune i didn’t wanna do that. I’m fine with my custom tune that i have

[@samuelchristie3992]

Jeff Crossan good call my car only lasted 5 months on there turn wasn’t even 2,000 miles

[@TheBallaboy247]

Samuel Christie what happened to your car?

[@RetrocarStyle]

These Fords are very quick, I just dont like the way they sound though. Theres gotta be an exhaust system for these that make the exhaust sound a bit less harsh n blatty.

[@milsgarage]

i used to say i didn't care for Ford.. Then i bought a 2008 Mazdaspeed3.. Is a Ford inside. LOL Now i just accept all cars and change their exhausts 😂

[@ryanw5584]

Ford racing exhaust

[@RetrocarStyle]

@@ryanw5584 Is this the exhaust on the car or the one that will make it sound better?

[@ryanw5584]

@@RetrocarStyle Ford Racing exhaust is more subtle and only comes alive when WOT. Some of the other exhausts on these cars are just too loud. I have an MBRP and it can be pretty loud even in low rpm

[@jeffcrossan2680]

FujiR500 i went with the Roush exhaust. In my opinion i think this is the best sounded exhaust on these cars but that’s just my opinion lol

[@shouldntbepublic2925]

What is that display set into the dash under the factory display?

[@milsgarage]

the flux capacitor? i'm lost trying to figure out which one that is 🤷‍♂️ it's like an arcade in his car

[@paulie-cj1bi]

@@milsgarage great scott! 1.21 gigawatts!!!

[@cameronbradley4605]

His ST is a stage 1 tech/interior package which means it has the smaller radio stock. Looks like he installed a different radio in the dash under the stock radio.

[@chrisd933]

Mils Garage yeah ask Jeff where did he get his radio face adapter looks cool

[@mattodowd5314]

Um...kid looks so discouraged at the numbers...with a 15-17% loss through the driveline he's making about 313-315bhp at the crank which is 65 over stock...because the car's engine specs are rated on BHP through an engine dyno with a conservative 15-17% loss on a manual, 268Whp seems right.

[@milsgarage]

right?? lol it was so funny to me. his numbers sound great to me. that much torque feels awesome. i imagine he'd need to go big turbo to hit the numbers he wants

[@jeffcrossan2680]

Matt O'Dowd you right i over looked it at the time

[@roboticvenom1935]

Sorry bud, it's a 13-14% drivetrain loss for fwd. 15-17% is RWD, and around 20% is AWD.

[@alexratsimbazafy7]

Holy cow that’s a poop ton of tq

[@milsgarage]

right!? the car thinks it's a frickin diesel truck or something lol

[@sleeper.simulant7327]

Alex Ratsimbazafy k03 turbo, nutty low end torque. Not great top end but the torque is where it’s at for these cars, it’s like a diesel lol

[@isabelle.c011]

As an st owner i dont see why spend all that money to make 40 wheel hp and 60 wtq stock these cars are great not yhe best tuning platforms though

[@milsgarage]

sometimes we build cars just because we love to build cars 🤟😎👍

[@isabelle.c011]

Oh yah fair enough as i said im an st owner and im not gona lie ive been modifying mine to just saying st is not the best platform for power

[@milsgarage]

i mean, i guess we could all just build LS's, VR38DE's, 2JZ's and call it a day lol. yeah? sweet! what all have you done to your ST? 😁

[@isabelle.c011]

Mils Garage exaust bov intake dp and intercooler are expensive but the next move i guess no sense tuning until ive got the parts on

[@milsgarage]

😲 your build sounds legit af. have you built a boosted car prior to your ST? i think it'd be safe to have the tuner setup installed once you're ready to put the dp and bov on.. dun wanna misfire n pop

[@michaeldus506]

I know this video is old and you probably won't see this comment but if you do please tell me where I can purchase that screen in the interior.

[@milsgarage]

Hey Michael, Jeff says it's the Kenwood DDX 318 👍

[@michaeldus506]

@@milsgarage thanks so much appreciate it

[@johnlefever3220]

It’s that stock turbo, can’t get anymore out of it

[@milsgarage]

i think you're right 👍

[@aca2081]

isnt stage 3 with hybrid turbo? this sounds more like stage 2 tbh

[@milsgarage]

i don't know the answer to this one lol.. It fast 🤷‍♂️

[@enthuzst6143]

No, cobb sales a stage 3 package and there's no turbo included.

[@wesleydestroy9037]

Qual nome da flower dele? que faz o barulho

[@milsgarage]

Vibrant Performance resonator 👍

[@AleksHauls]

No fuel supply but stage 3?

[@milsgarage]

Yup. That’s the map that the Cobb AP is running 👍

[@darrenkidd271]

only reason it didnt make ton more hp is turbo..thats th only weak link in the system your running. stock turbo is super small

[@milsgarage]

Amen 🤘

[@jianyuhua]

cool

[@milsgarage]

🤘🤘🤘

[@bkizzle574]

I thought Cobb racing guarantees 287hp and 400lbs ft torque with there Stage 2 or 3 setup for like $2200.. Am I wrong on that?!

[@milsgarage]

i'd love to believe a tuning company would guarantee hp numbers, but i know their R&D department has rough projections of what their products are capable of.. Cobb is usually really good with their products and projections, but i know some other brands like Injen are full of crap when they tell new tuners they'll get 15% increases from a CAI on a N/A or untuned setup lol

[@passion2peace]

where does it say that ?

[@fordmustanggen5]

2:46 YOOO IZZ THAT THINGS FUCKING STAGE3??? broo

[@milsgarage]

lol 😂

[@MK7CASEY]

Big turbo time

[@milsgarage]

💯

[@Tjacckk23]

What makes this “stage 3”

[@milsgarage]

The combined installed parts and the Stage3 COBB tune 👍

[@brandonstshhist4009]

Wow my car made about the same just stage 2 with a tune from jst. 265whp and 370wtq gonna do a catless down pipe and water meth next and see a bump

[@DeeFTP]

any updates on what you made @BrandonSTshhi ST

[@charliejohn1]

I'm with Jeff. With all of the mods he did on his ST, I was surprised at the lack of horsepower his car produced. I've done about 80% of what Jeff did and I'm thinking about adding a bigger turbo with the downpipe I'm was planning to install on my ST. I'm hoping to get between 300 to 350 HP but after this video, I can only hope and pray on bent knees.🙏

[@milsgarage]

Yeah? i'd be really interested in hearing what numbers you end up hitting when you get dyno'd. Then we might be able to compare setups and figure out what's worth what

[@charliejohn1]

@@milsgarage Will do. 👍

[@triple_AAAs]

Stock hp 250 hp??? Stage 3 only got 260+ Hp???

[@awhitness]

Turbo is just too small. Torque starts to fall off at 3500rpms. 350ftlbs x 3500rpms / 5252 = 233whp @ 3500rpms A little bigger turbo were the toque starts to fall off at 4500rpms. 4500 x 350ftlbs / 5252 = 300whp @ 4500rpms

[@milsgarage]

🤔💭so you're sayin we need to get Jeff to buy a bigger turbo.. 🤟😎👍 i like this plan.

[@milsgarage]

one side note though; the torque... it didn't fall off at all.

[@awhitness]

@@milsgarage At 2500 rpms your making 370ftlbs. By 5200rpms your only making 250ftlbs. Thats a drop of 120ftlbs of torque. That drop is your turbo not being able to sustain psi. If you datalog your boost you will see there is a direct link between psi level and torque. At 2500 rpms I am guessing your around 24psi.. By 5,200rpms you are probably down to 18psi.

[@milsgarage]

yeah? i'll have to look closer at the dyno sheet, but i'ma look for the points you're pointing out 🤟😎. what do you do Eddie? if you tell me you work for Nasa 🤯

[@Challechallechalle]

@@milsgaragenah he can just read and KNOWS IT ALL!

[@imfraeglasgow]

Get rid of that itty bitty turbo and you’ll have plenty over 300hp.

[@milsgarage]

That's the best plan ☝️

[@imfraeglasgow]

Mils Garage yeah I’m getting ready to go 2867R soon. Have all the other “stage 3” stuff plus a catch can. When you do get a bigger turbo be sure to get some sort of aux fuel system. I’m going stratified for mine. Get the 2 port aux or the x4tra which is what I’m going for. Their guardian angel is a good idea too. If you buy the turbo from strat instead of say CJ ponyparts you can get an external waste gate as well, which is what I’m opting for.

[@imfraeglasgow]

Mils Garage also what tune are you running? Cobb ots stage 3?

[@DeeFTP]

Florida Bhoy he said he’s on a custom FreekTune with Stage 3 mapping. I get the custom tune but what does the stage 3 mapping mean?

[@jsvick20]

bro these stock are 260hp wtf? i have an st3 with stage 2

[@milsgarage]

Yeah, they were like 252 in 2014, but not much difference. Awesome! Have you dynoed it yet?

[@jsvick20]

@@milsgarage yes I'm 310

[@milsgarage]

Holy awesome! That sounds fun. Awesome work James 🤘🤘🤘

[@evodingo3375]

Geeesusssssss 300+ tq?!!?

[@milsgarage]

lol The car thinks it's a diesel 🤷‍♂️

[@mihaibrezan8875]

Stage 1 by cobb i made on dyno 286 hp and 510 nm so i have no idee why u are low on power......

[@milsgarage]

😮 whoa. what all have you done to the car?

[@mihaibrezan8875]

Mils Garage not much realy if u leave a mail here i send you the dyno to have a look !

[@milsgarage]

please! [ [e-mail] ]

[@milsgarage]

wow. with the stock turbo on the 2.0 ST engine? .. i haven't dove super deep into the platform, but Jeff was saying that his limitations right now were due to his turbo.. i'ma ask him, but do you have any ideas why these figures would be so different?

[@mihaibrezan8875]

Mils Garage dunno here in europe we have octane 100+ at pump maiby this is a part of diference now i am running intercooler mountune, revo intake, milltek cat back and sportcat milltek 200 cells , and ofcourse cobb stage 3 ! Dunno the dyno right now but maiby 300+

[@334trax2]

That was low HP, but thinks for posting.

[@milsgarage]

Yeah? Are you running similar mods?

[@334trax2]

@@milsgarage I was looking up focus st for a track car and when it said stage three I figured more power. I have a 2.0 turbo in my VW with a stage 2 plus or IS38 high torque tune my average dyno pull on 4 runs was 347WHP and 374 FTLBS to the wheels.

[@milsgarage]

Nice! That's the same from the GTI we installed springs on. Crazy awesome power. i'd expect a IS38 boosted 2.0L engine to beat a K03 2.0L all day. It's a bigger turbo setup. Jeff was telling me he'll need a bigger turbo to get better gains out of the setup, so maybe he'll upgrade at some point

[@334trax2]

@@milsgarage so far I like my GTI but track time will tell. I will be posting videos of my GTI on autocross and big boy track events.

[@onehitwonder8432]

I'm guessing the engine can handle more power

[@milsgarage]

You think? Jeff is under the same impression 🤘

[@coolk9dogs]

Only 265hp less than hyundai veloster N without a tune.. tbh that's pretty crappy if ask me lol

[@milsgarage]

🤔 Shouldn't we compare the 2020 Focus ST with the 2020 Veloster? The 2014 Veloster Turbo made 201hp.. At least list the 2014 Genesis Coupe Turbo to be more fair lol

[@brandons9138]

Deleted for reading comprehension reasons. My bad.

[@maximeemond2009]

still gets gapped by bolt on k20's

[@milsgarage]

🤷‍♂️

[@maximeemond2009]

Mils Garage just kidding bud hahaha car looks strong as hell!

[@milsgarage]

🤟😂👍 lol, well Jeff agrees that it's not strong enough.. 🤔 maybe we can convince Jeff that he needs to go big turbo. thank you for your support Maxime!

[@coolk9dogs]

I won't get one for a only 15hp gain with tune lol rather have the focus rs or type R

[@milsgarage]

Whatever's in your pic > Focus RS > Type R 👍

[@boektcity]

so you'd be better off with a stage 3 FiST

[@milsgarage]

O_O you mean they call them FiSTs?? 😂 i just read that the COBB Stage 3 setup on those increase their whp by 30, and torque by 80.. Power to weight wise.. idk maybe lol. It'd sure be an interesting race at the strip 👍

[@4doorgsrko]

You need a better tune... Furthermore, there are no stages... Lol that's a Cobb thing just to get you to spend more money.

[@milsgarage]

Yes. But why do you believe there are no stages? i've always considered Stage1 to be bolt-ons; Stage2 to be removal of bottle-necks + no cats + tune; Stage3 to be 'car will break if turned on without a tune because boost added and now ecu is worthless w/o assistance'

[@4doorgsrko]

@@milsgarage that's quite literally all the same thing. Bolt ons remove bottlenecks. That's the reason you replace certain parts to begin with.

[@milsgarage]

Dude, no it isn't lol.. i don't believe you can take all those variables and encompass them under a single blanket term. Full bolt ons vs built internals are very different. i'd say Stage3+ is the car has been touched and changed in every way.. It makes the car world make sense and grades the level of modification

[@4doorgsrko]

@@milsgarage who said built with internals? Lol if you look on CoBBS website, they list a rear motor mount as being apart of one stage lol. They are the only ones who "stage" their products for the ST. Currently I'm "stage 3" tuned by Cobb on 93. It's just a gimmick to sell kids their mod packages because they don't know any better. LOL nowhere is "built" in any part of the stages listed by anyone for tuning.

[@milsgarage]

Me; i said that. You say there aren't 'stages.' i say there are. That simple. No need to water down the topic. No sales gimmick. Simply clarification of build level without a rundown of parts. i'm in tuning. i see stages. 🤷‍♂️

[@jamescoburn4315]

Jeff I wanna kiss you

[@Trumplican]

all these stages is so dumb there is no consistency whatsoever between parts or companies. i could call a exhaust and intake kit a stage 10 if i wanted.

[@milsgarage]

Yes, the date on the video shows how car culture adapts 🤘🤘🤘