What If The Qing Dynasty SURVIVED?

[@MrKangaroo123]

What if British fears came true and the German Empire joined the Second Boer war on the side of the Dutch Boers??

[@JoboGamezzz]

Is there even a mod to do something like that in?

[@pieceofschmidtgamer]

@@JoboGamezzz Yeah, it kind of has to be playable in HoI4 in order for the What If to be done.

[@MrKangaroo123]

@@JoboGamezzz it would probably have to be done in Vic 3 Since that is the time period in which the second Boer war took place 11 Oct 1899 - 31 May 1902

[@MrKangaroo123]

In our timeline the British were able to secure a peace treaty with the Dutch Boers before the Germans could join by throwing Colonial officer Harry Harbord "Breaker" Morant of the Bushveldt carbineers under the bus and charging him with war crimes. he was Executed by firing squad 27 February 1902.

[@ajcoetzer4711]

As a south African I love this suggestion

[@TheGohanSkywalker]

I recently saw an alt history map video that made me think of two parallel ideas: 1. What if Spain joined the Central Powers? 2. What if the Ottomans joined the Entente?

[@MinistryofPropoganda]

Easy answers, 1: The central powers would last slightly longer probably till 1919 2: The Entente would win easier, maybe causing Winston not to become the Prime Minister due to not having as much of a campaign unless he went towards the Western front

[@ThugShakers4Christ]

​@@MinistryofPropogandayou are really bad at this. You completely ignored whether the Ottoman Empire still falls, what happens to the Greeks and Armenians, and how this prevents the creation of the modern middle East

[@MinistryofPropoganda]

@@ThugShakers4Christ I’m more of explaining how it would’ve impacted WW1, not the after math and how the Ottomans would fall

[@gummi9948]

1. Alfonso XIII overthrown in a coup and probably early Spanish Civil War, Spanish politics were a shit show and the army could NOT afford such a war 2. Pro-german aligned members of the CUP, being a majority within the CUP would launch a coup and arrest the pro-entente figures.

[@Ineverlost_control]

What if the british joined the central powers? since the british's enemy has always been the franks and i heard that a lot of english wanted to join the central powers

[@birk5929]

What if the Tsar Nicholas II never abdicated, and took full control of Russia?

[@Orendi7]

Aka... what if Tsar Nicholas II had a backbone.

[@forcetimer71]

​@@Orendi7real

[@JackdawMiles]

Ngl, i played this it's pretty fun. You can join the central powers and can industrialize more.

[@Rd_Baron]

​@@Orendi7pretty much Scar Nicholas

[@alexkudzin4980]

What if at the start of the Siberian intervention, Japan finds Alexei Romanov and makes him a puppet ruler of Siberia to justify their ongoing “intervention”? Yes Alexei Romanov is assassinated in July and the intervention starts in August, so either move the intervention forward a couple of months, or have the Czechoslovak Legion rescue Alexei and bring him to the Japanese. Either way, Japan should remain in Siberia after October 1922, with enough legitimacy so that America doesn't embargo Japan or force Japan's withdrawal, & Japan can pay for the “intervention” with Siberian gold/iron/gems/fur. Or, alternatively, one of his sisters, Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatiana, Maria, or Anastasia, survives and is married into the Japanese royal family giving Japan a claim over all of Russia.

[@waitthatscopyrighted3198]

That sounds neat

[@JoboGamezzz]

Yes

[@angelvalerio9746]

This sounds interesting

[@simonnachreiner8380]

"Or, alternatively, one of his sisters, Grand Duchesses Olga, Tatiana, Maria, or Anastasia, survives and is married into the Japanese royal family giving Japan a claim over all of Russia." That would actually be a REALLY interesting one, especially if it dovetails into the concepts brought up in the "Strike north video" comments

[@sto1238]

@@simonnachreiner8380no way the famously xenophobic Japanese would allow that. A Korean royal was controversial enough but a RUSSIAN? A people they absolutely despised and recently fought a war against? Yea no that ain’t happening lol

[@don1angel]

What if Spain joins the Axis... And actively participates, including getting Gibraltar...

[@razorbladeflamingo3635]

I second this, adding Spain to the Axis would make things very interesting and we'd get to learn about whatever the heck Spain was doing during that time.

[@stevenmcnabb9185]

Important caveat: I'm not good at this game. 😅 Every time I think I'm doing really well as France, either Italy invades Switzerland or Spain joins the Axis.

[@zunozi7825]

The amount of coastline available for the potential D-Day... When the Allies landed in southern France after D Day, nobody was there.

[@moodycxnt]

I read about this and apparently many think that Spain would have caused the Axis to crumble even faster had they joined. So the question would have to include the civil war wrapping up quickly (like we can do in game) like within a year.

[@jay-1800]

It would’ve went poorly for Spain.

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

Attempt 11: (Using the Great War Redux again) What if Italy honored the Triple Alliance and eventually joined the Central Powers when WWI comes around?

[@heavyhebrew]

wait, didn't he do that already?

[@liladoodle]

Probably no rise to power for Mussolini, for one.

[@stefanvucinic2269]

Ooo Azut Lane Fan

[@JustFloppa1410]

they wouldn't, due to their horrible relationship with austrians

[@Geshiko-GuP]

But There is no way they could honour it as it was a DEFENSIVE TREATY And Austria was in an OFFENSIVE WAR against Serbia A better question would be if they just joined the Central Powers itself later after being handed their claimed territories in Austria under I bet German pressure and promises vast colonial holdings in return

[@MrLabowski]

What if Steiner’s attack was carried out and successful?

[@adisonsmith2633]

Bittersteel did that

[@Randinajon]

@@adisonsmith2633but stakuyi hasn’t!!

[@thatoneguyiii1003]

Realistic answer: The Reich survives another week, at most Meme answer: Moscow falls

[@don1angel]

They'll still loose since they have the soviets at Berlin east and allies at the west.

[@robertlombardo8437]

​@@don1angel "That was an order!!"

[@dumbledax1040]

Byzantium sequel: what would a reformed Byzantium do in WW2

[@CoffeeSuccubus]

Boring and unoriginal

[@Arcticpiano303]

I wanna see this at the top

[@dominicanemperor28]

What if the Provisional Government succeeded in Russia? (Great War Redux)

[@ntfoperative9432]

That would honestly depend on one thing, the Barbarossa offensive succeeding. It was the ultimate failure of the offensive, and the subsequent peace deal that was wildly against Russia, that gave the Soviets the opening they needed to cause the civil war

[@dominicanemperor28]

@@ntfoperative9432 there was a barbarossa in ww1?

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@dominicanemperor28 no, my mistake, I meant the Brusilov offensive

[@dominicanemperor28]

@@ntfoperative9432 Oh, Ok

[@thesus-ing8810]

What if the hitler listened to his generals and retreated during Barbarossa (also prepared for Barbarossa more)

[@andrewrogers3067]

He loses later

[@davidsmith8826]

Munich gets a really hot August 6th.

[@joeyjojojrshabadoo7462]

The die was cast. Uncle Joe wasn't going to give him a do over.

[@BagofBeans1]

here's the thing: Hitler *did* listen to his generals, a lot of the time, actually. Hell, he even listened to them with the whole "go to moscow," plan. I suggest you watch Potential History's "Operation Barbarossa: The Plan that lacked Planning" Series. It's a good watch!

[@thesus-ing8810]

@@BagofBeans1 when the generals requested to retreat or dig in for the winter hitler insisted to keep pushing and not retreat

[@ShortsYT837]

What if the Americans intervened in the Chinese civil war

[@yuantsui6276]

yes pls

[@byakuya3603]

In fact, it has been involved many times. It is amazing that Americans have provided military assistance to ccp or kmt, but kmt will provide more assistance.

[@dyldobaggins4158]

Can't remember if this was already asked or done but What if the appeasement policy was avoided and WW2 started early?

[@mitchbob1234]

What if India became independent before the war?

[@judgementdaygaming8406]

Saw you on Unsub havin a nice conversation about history with the Chubby Electron Guy

[@Cat_DeGaulle]

What if the taiping rebelion succeeded in overthrowing the Qing Empire and creating a christian china?

[@radec5437]

Very interesting!

[@mstrbritodstroy]

What if Hannibal and the Carthage Republic’s conquest against the Roman Empire were successful and took over the empire? How would history changed?

[@empyt7023]

to recomend a theme it has to in a time periode of some mod of hoi4 or vic3

[@OfficerCharon]

​@empyt7023 to be fair, Imperator: Rome is a Paradox game...

[@johnanita9251]

You would perform child offerings 🫴 to our God Baal. On a weekly basis...

[@JoeDueterte]

What if South Africa cooperated fully with Rhodesia and they weren’t condemned by the UN?

[@crimsonwolf5397]

That would be interesting.

[@andresdominguez4914]

What if the United Arab Republic was a success? (Egypt/Cold War mod)

[@MCSkiure]

What if Ethiopia modernized like Japan

[@proatplanes]

Stakuyi PLEASE use shift-click when making field marshal frontlines, It makes them so much cleaner and prevents sections of the line being undersupplied.

[@BakedClams]

What if Bulgaria won the second Balkan war?

[@jayyork6043]

Love the videos man. I am a huge history nerd myself so it’s great to see something new and interesting, keep it up! On a side note doing an achievement run in hoi4 and just had Denmark ai take out Germany lol. That is a first for me

[@Collinized]

Okay for the 20th episode a 1 hour Operation Untinkable special in RT56

[@sahilhossain8204]

Lore of What If The Qing Dynasty SURVIVED? Momentum 100

[@TGM3141]

What if the Russian Civil War was less about Red vs. White, but more about Russians vs. the minorities of the (former) state?

[@Weatheredcutcopperstairs]

So like “what if all independence movements succeeded?”

[@TGM3141]

nah more independence movements in general

[@JoeDueterte]

Red was led by Jewish ethnics..

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

So basically Kaiserreich Russia?

[@TGM3141]

imagine "if most cultures (including those in current russia proper such as tatars and chechens) rose up in russia" dazzabout it

[@EngieLastnameTheFellaHappyEngi]

What if Germany got an alliance with Britain like Hitler wanted?

[@JoeDueterte]

That is easy. No war would have happened, except a fast win against the Soviets

[@JoeDueterte]

Also America and England would be free of foreign bankers. Also no Israel, so a W in my book

[@hanneswiggenhorn2023]

​@@JoeDuetertenot likely, Britain would probably never sign an offensive alliance with Germany, at best a defensive pact, and it still had obligations to Poland more so than to Germany

[@JoeDueterte]

@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 the original comment was if Germany got an alliance with Britain. In this case, the western front would not have occurred. The axis did not intend on a war in Europe, it was instigated in London

[@NathanBurnham-u9u]

Stakuyi ultimate life hack to save the Qing eliminate the Manchu elite

[@DaVinciwithaphaser]

I love these videos. It’s like an alt history audio story.

[@Userbie78]

What if Ingland and France helped Poland fight Germany?

[@BlackBanditXX]

Where is Ingland?

[@ayoyousus9379]

United kingdom of Great Britain and northern Ireland

[@chiefwiggi]

Hey Stak, this Play is Crazy gotta try it. Dude loved seen you on the UnsubPodcast. It was awesome to See you guys together and havin‘ fun. Looked like a blast

[@jamiekuryla3940]

These are fun thanks, i like the ideas here already and cant think so there you go

[@ciomuda2406]

What if the Holy Roman Empire was not abolished by Francis/Franz II

[@mankymax117]

I literally just played as the qing dynasty on great war redux today

[@bradleyb10]

suggestion: in the polling show whether that option will be with a mod or as a standard game. like "Japan tries to defeat the USA in naval power (Road To 56)"

[@BubbaJ18]

What if Central Power United States?

[@archapmangcmg]

Stakuyi: chooses the full clueless Qing noble experience!

[@vraptor313]

What if America focused on its economic policy and after instead of intervention in Europe enforces the Monroe doctrine against North and South America

[@byakuya3603]

Will become a paradise, but this is not what the military-industrial complex wants to see.

[@nomad2864]

Come all without, come all within You'll not see nothing like the mighty Qing. I'll show myself out.....

[@bryant7201]

Nice. I'll be outside too.

[@archapmangcmg]

I love your work, Stak, keep the good stuff coming!

[@TsarVladolfPutler]

What if Stalin didn't ignore his spies and was prepared for Barbarossa?

[@Teaman144]

What if the austro hungarians were more prepared For ww1

[@Schmats1]

For that to happen you would need to change like 100-150 years of Austrian / Austria-Hungarian military history. They were INCREDIBLY bad at war after it moved from Napoleonic fighting to more skirmish/modern. Hell they even used 3-4 hundred year old brass canons during early stages in ww1 because "if it works why change it" Conrad my beloved

[@Goozepot]

What if new france got independence? Also more Equestria At War pls🙏

[@bowaxer7952]

Attempt 4: What if Hirohito kept Japan out of WW2?

[@byakuya3603]

Interesting fact: World War II actually started in 1937 when Japan launched the war of aggression against China, instead of Germany attacking Poland in 1939. World War II was first launched by Japanese fascists, but this was ignored because of the western historical view.

[@crazygrandma6335]

What if the August Coup succeeded? (Using Red Dusk Mod) an actually pretty fun and in depth recent mod would like to see it on the channel!

[@Hello-z5n]

What if the nazis chose china as an ally and not japan. Or just what if the nazis allied with the Chinese and not japan

[@zhcultivator]

What if the Mughal Empire survived and Industrialized?

[@JuliusDofarios]

What if Britain joined the Central Powers?

[@galnamedCheri]

i thought this was an actual update, but im thinking too highly of the redux devs

[@OperatorFlyer25]

What if the Netherlands joined a side in WW1?

[@szymon_sowa]

Idea: history of stakuyi himself

[@teadrinker1632]

What if the Japanese never got the USA into ww2?

[@AlucardNoir]

Hei, aren't you supposed to be going to space to conquer the galaxy in the name of Pony and Cat kind?

[@lorekeeper8117]

What if Alf Landon was president during WW2?

[@benlomen179]

I have been waiting so long for this!!!!!!🎉

[@AdvancedGamer-]

What if soviets invaded Germany in 1939/38?

[@henrywilson2136]

Thank you

[@Failed101]

What if the soviets never declared war on finland in ww2

[@Mr_Godmode]

What if the Ottomans survived after WW1 (they still lost it but weren't beaten afterwards) (8)

[@Nerathul1]

Obviously next video should be Manchuko base game and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK or REVENGE OF PUYI

[@alexgresock7064]

What if US Carriers were present during the attack on Pearl Harbor?

[@BillikinWhisker-w9s]

Can we add: "And the Japanese had brought along troops to take Pearl as a pacific power base?"

[@The_Keeper]

You know its a good scenario when you have to Mod the Mod you're using, just to be able to answer it. :D

[@miles-eq3hv]

What if the British joined the axis and took over its "old colonies" (Sorry if you have already done this).

[@WorldArchivist]

If possible, what if Bellisarius became the Western Roman Emperor?

[@tylermorrison420]

What if the cold war went hot? Allies vs soviet union (operation unthinkable) Please make sure to do what you usually do when doing alternative history

[@SarmaTheFood]

To the guy who insulted the guy who suggested it and told him that Stakuyi would NEVER do this, lol.

[@O-hv6tr]

What if Germany became a democracy before WW1?

[@karnewarrior]

I would love to see this continued on towards WWII, honestly.

[@PapaSchluuumpf]

What if England didn’t join WW1 after the invasion of Belgium?

[@palomo2273]

Real talk, what if ANYTHING would happened in latin america

[@DeLeonHD]

What if the Mexican revolution failed/never happened and Diaz remained in power.

[@lordteufel4578]

What if Leon Trotsky, was not exiled to Mexico, and actually overthrew Stalin. And I know how unlikely that sounds, I feel like it would be interesting.

[@frp3337]

What if the brasilica confederation worked?

[@nightspawnson-of-luna4936]

So the idea of China sending troops through siberia to fight alongside russia just kinda reminds me of Blood of Tyrants, the ninth Temeraire book, (which is basically about the Napoleonic wars with dragons)

[@SqicK99]

We need an historical anime about china in pre-warlords period

[@Lazymericangamer]

What if the American civil war was somehow avoided (EoNB)

[@angelvalerio9746]

What if the second Mexican empire and its backers intervined in the US civil war

[@HanathanZeith]

the best experience of PVKK is probably in VR, that is if PVKK supports VR gameplay.

[@TheBlasphemite]

Theoretically, at least according to my theory, Qing China would live on in this universe. It would more likely become more of a constitutional monarchy where the emperor is a figure head, like UK.

[@ondrejmalek1322]

what if stak never pissed in the towel warmer

[@brandonnoname648]

16:38 EAT QING

[@yourdailybeats1127]

What if all the HRE never collapsed?

[@harmonicadude4732]

What happens if the Spanish civil war happened earlier and ended sooner. Then Spain joins the axis and goes in on France from the south.

[@Schmats1]

What if the Swedish-Norwegian personal union never broke apart. Would be interesting to see how it would play out in the following years.

[@tacomeister4130]

What if Belgium knew about the blitz (video 4 requesting)

[@aaronstrunk4136]

What if Francisco Pancho Villa was caught in the us expedition in to Mexico?

[@jenninewardle37]

As unlikely as it seems, would like to see surviving Qing Dynasty & Japan cooperate

[@Spanishinquisition98]

What if oswald mosley got into power in britain?

[@JoeDueterte]

Based

[@tacolord7517]

What if the opposition didn't resign after the Matteotti Scandal? (AKA, what if Mussolini remained in power but didn't have full and total control?)

[@Wildcardaced]

What if napoleon fully conquered Europe

[@imstillworkingonthename3663]

(Millennium dawn) Is what if the british never lost their empire.

[@jamesdulany2176]

What if the Battle of Agincourt went the other way? I know that this would require a different game, but would be fun to see.

[@PancakeNation1]

What if the Italians said no to anschluss?

[@PancakeNation1]

Pls like

[@MinistryofPropoganda]

@@PancakeNation1literally nothing, maybe the soviets pushing back easier or defending but literally nothing, they would still lose Bessarabia due to the Soviets wanting it still

[@PancakeNation1]

@@MinistryofPropoganda how do you know?

[@PancakeNation1]

@@MinistryofPropoganda Mr smarty pants

[@disappointmentone2733]

How would the Aztecs survive

[@Weatheredcutcopperstairs]

What if Georgia won the South Ossetia/Abkhazia/civil war?

[@metiora2851]

What if the Swedish "Empire" never broke as it did during Charles XII

[@simonhagos2009]

What if Operation Unthinkable happened?

[@themeteam7159]

What if the Austo-Hungarian empire federalized successfully? Might have to avoid WW1 though.

[@blazingblizzard-6894]

This is actually playable without giving yourself free factories, skipping focuses, or anything else. It’s not easy, but the dev made this very playable and you will likely need to fight the revolution and win! He’s a great guy, although it seems that the submod will no longer receive updates :(

[@walnzell9328]

I think a potential reason why Europeans would be investing into China more and willing to offer military advice was because they realized that if China descended into chaos, that would put their business interests at risk. A stable China was a profitable China. I think the French would be most interested in the Qing government adopting reforms more proactively, as they understand what happens if the ruling class puts stuff like that at a low priority.

[@isaiah-nl1cp]

what if the pro axis faction in india rose up and took power in india

[@kitfisto5132]

I love a timeline where a bunch of chinese guys are running along the czechoslovak legions in trains xd