Stalin Car Vs Hitler Car | Zis-101 Vs Horch 830 BL

ZIS-101 was a limousine produced by the Soviet car manufacturer Zavod Imeni Stalina. It was introduced in 1936 and was equipped with an 5.8 L (354 cu in) straight-8 engine producing 90 hp (67 kW) and giving a top speed of 115 km/h (71 mph). The car was fitted with a 3-speed manual gearbox.
It was followed by the ZIS-101A that had improved the engine giving 110 hp (82 kW) and a new top speed of approximately 130 km/h (81 mph). Production ended in 1941.
In 1939, a two-seat sport version designed by Valentin Nikolaevich Rostkov called 101-Sport was built. The engine was the same as in the 101-A, but boosted to 141 hp (105 kW) and a top speed of 162 km/h (101 mph) (although a Pravda article claims 170-180 km/h). It was, however, not made in more than one or two copies.
Horch was a car brand manufactured in Germany by August Horch & Cie, at the beginning of the 20th century.
It is the direct ancestor of the present day Audi company, which in turn came out of Auto Union, formed in 1932 when Horch merged with DKW, Wanderer and the historic Audi enterprise which August Horch founded in 1910.
The Horch brand is currently owned by Daimler AG, who retained it in 1964 when it sold Auto Union to Volkswagen. The Horch 830 is a car in the luxury class with eight-cylinder V-engine and rear-wheel drive, the Auto Union owned brand Horch at the 23rd International Automobile and Motorcycle Exhibition (IAMA) in February 1933, Berlin as a successor of the type 430 (Horch 8) introduced. The first vehicles arrived in the fall of 1933 for delivery.
Until the war-related adjustment in 1940 in Zwickau Horch work in total 11,625 civilian cars Horch 830/930 were built. Additionally received 1934-1937 Reichswehr and Wehrmacht 4,536 Kübelwagen Horch 830 R that for off-road use - front and rear have rigid axles - deviating from civilian types.
In 1934 appeared the improved Horch 830 B larger 3.25-liter engine with an unchanged 70 hp, hydraulically operated drum brakes ( 'oil pressure brake ") and the front independent suspension with double wishbones in the four-door sedan and two-door convertible. The versions with streamlined tail accounted for.
The following year, the engine was again enlarged to 3.5 liters and the now 75-hp model called Horch 830 Bk (k = short) to distinguish with the likewise available Horch 830 BL (L = long) with 15 cm longer wheelbase (3.35 m) and a rear "double hinge axis" (De Dion tube) instead of the rigid axle. This chassis was used for the Pullman limousine, which uses Pullman convertible and 4-door convertible.
The 3.5-liter engine in 1937 with two flat gasifiers and increased compression ratio of 6.3: brought to a power output of 82 PS: 1 (1 previously 6.0). The Horch 930 V (V = condensed) with 10 cm less wheelbase (3.1m) and a rear double-joint axle replaced the Horch 830 Bk. Besides sedan and Cabriolet there was also a four-door Roadster Cabriolet (Phaeton). The models with long (3.35m) wheelbase welcomed unchanged 830 BL and available as a Pullman limousine, four-door (Pullman) and Cabriolet as sechssitziger touring car.
Both Horch V8 models 830 BL and 930 V received in 1938 a larger 3.8-liter engine with 92 hp, a "fully synchronized" ZF four-speed transmission (also 1st gear) and equipped with a standard highway "remote program" (Overdrive ), which was activated with an additional lever.
1940 to replace the 830 BL model 930 L, a "streamliner" 930 S to 930 V. But in addition, there was no longer after the outbreak of World War II.
Total 11730 cars were produced until 1940. In addition, it produced about 5200 Horch 830R 1934-1938 cars for the needs of the Wehrmacht.
Stalin Car Vs Hitler Car | Zis-101 Vs Horch 830 BL
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[@bluebear6570]

The Horch shown in this video is definitively not Hitler´s car, as he preferred Mercedes-Benz cars.

[@svastojebsvastojeb3408]

Yes, Mercedes 770K.

[@Schlipperschlopper]

The soviet ZIS car was made to the highest quality you can imagine and certainly it outmaches the normal German production Horch. Hitler never drove a Horch he only drove Mercedes.

[@alexsveles343]

I don’t know who imitates whom…..but historically Germans imitated everything Russians do. Even calling themselves Prussians or little Russians

[@tomfrazier1103]

In everything I've seen, H was riding, not driving, in large Mercedes-Benz touring cars.

[@alexsveles343]

@@tomfrazier1103 h was a stooge a usefull idiot…exploited by Stalin to destroy American foreign policy The Usa along whit Germany has become a joke of the entire mankind The next war will be adios muchavhos

[@jochensch8821]

@@tomfrazier1103 Hitler has no driving licence, so there is no car owner A. Hitler, but he used Mercedes-Benz.

[@tomfrazier1103]

@@jochensch8821 H. believed he was not corrupt. He did get a royalty from the State for postage stamps with his face. There were slush funds for maintaining the Fuhrer in the style he favored. Surely people have met abstemious wealthy people whom make a fetish over their Corollas and teetotal habits?

[@stephenmoore6501]

As you say in your blurb but not in the clip, the ZIS-101 (and ZIS-110) were powered by straight-eight engines, not V-8s. The Horch 830 was a V-8.

[@ashleygordon3467]

This is nonsense - all of Hitlers cars were Mercedes, not Horch.

[@picco2505]

Hitler used Merc.770 " Grosser mercedes"

[@Schlipperschlopper]

Hitler never drove Horch always Mercedes! (The Cis110 was a soviet made Buick Super 90 by another name..)

[@bhupendrasinghchauhan3971]

Hitler was not a driver, he didn't drove any car!

[@mafia_gamer_official30973]

Imagine, the Second World War was a car race between Hitler and Stalin, no any guns, just speed.

[@marshalondro9692]

Why is there a American civil War song in background

[@warnom.dahlan9697]

What the tittle?

[@marshalondro9692]

Warno M.Dahlan johny comes marching home

[@TheBandana1969]

Stalin's ZiL was based on a 1941 Packard Limousine, not this. There is a KZbin video on it. Hitler always had a Mercedes 770.

[@paulalexander2928]

Some one should make a cartoon having Hitler and Stalin drag racing each other in their cars . The cars could have flame paint jobs with blowers on the hoods and Hitler / Stalin could be dressed in Evel Kennevl capes and outlandish show biz garb.

[@combatantezoteric2965]

Lol !!!

[@normbissonnette8866]

PINKS !

[@elseagullo4979]

Those cars should not be ruined like that

[@brbhave2p00p4]

German Engineering at its finest

[@brbhave2p00p4]

PhotoAutoWorld not at all. German quality is best. An example: BMW X6 575hp v8 did beat the shot out of a suv with 700hp v8 I don’t remember model and stuff but that suv was American. Must admit American suv sounded better but it is slower and less safe. Germany owns

[@flamescorpion9816]

@@photoautoworld5036 nope

[@TheDazzler420]

Quantity beats the quality then

[@Evgeniy_Petrov]

зис выглядит более современным, а у немца салон круче.

[@DrDaveElliott]

Who owns the Horch? I saw it being restored at Red’s garage in Chicago in the 80’s. They wouldn’t tell me the owner but said it was Hitler’s car.

[@sonic3932]

GERMANY CAR

[@seitenwind7940]

Hitler uses Horch cars? Maybe Baldur von Schirach or Albrecht Speer. I saw Hitler only in Mercedes 770 K and 540 K models. In open Tourer. And Russians only copy Packard cars. What a compare.

[@i.amoksin]

Красота внутри и снаруже. Детали серьёзного подхода.

[@b.g.theprinceofrp.3906]

Все таки при капитализме серийные автомобили лучше получаются.

[@tomfrazier1103]

Infamously, the body dies and production tooling for the Packard 160/180 cars was sent to the Soviets, preventing Packard from playing in the high priced field in the immediate postwar. They only produced the Clipper, their medium-priced car that was meant to compete with Buick/Chrysler &c. They awkwardly stretched it, but ultimately didn't make it. In the 1980s Collectible Automobile writers bemoaned the loss of the independent non Big 3 cars, and how they could have survived.

[@walterpaulmueller]

The title was probably chosen for higher click rates. Hitler drove Mercedes.

[@herbertoschkenat4144]

Die Oldtimer finde ich ganz interessant mit der Gruppe wie man sie so schön pflegt und ausstellt ist auch sehr schön wie Mercedes Benz, Horch und Maybach.

[@ktdybrjkftdbx]

What about ZIS 115?

[@dimabalabanov6686]

The problem is that the cars Stalin used more than others were Packards. It was Twin six in 30 ties. Later changed to twelve model . Hitler used Mercedes 770 Grosser.

[@user-nt4vv9qs4m]

А где ЗИС-115?!

[@justinjungk1033]

THE Horch is better!

[@exolord_trinity1495]

BUT STALIN IS BETTER

[@AndreyThreethousand]

The Zis has a straight 8 engine, not V8.

[@jvarela965]

Stalin loved the 1941 Packards. When Packard replaced the 1941 styles with a new model the Soviet Government got a license to build the old Packard 110 120 160 180 in the USSR. Stalin also owned a 1922 Rolls Royce.

[@JamesAllmond]

and I have seen a former Stalin Zil (that he gave to Finland and a friend got to bring back to SpB and is currently restoring it). Got to poke around on it. It was a pre-war Packard through and through...down to the switch gear (albeit Soviet switches so...).

[@tomfrazier1103]

Did Stalin inherit his RR from Lenin? He was a Rolls aficionado.

[@jvarela965]

@@tomfrazier1103 the half-track RR was owned by the Czars brother the Grand Duke Michael who would have been next Czar After his brother and his nephew abdicated. But he was assassinated before it can happen.

[@tomfrazier1103]

@@jvarela965 I haven't heard of the half track Rolls. I associated the Czars with Delaunay-Belleville cars.

[@jvarela965]

@@tomfrazier1103 It was his brother the grand Duke Michaels vehicle not his. If you type in half track Romanoff Rolls-Royce I’m sure it’ll come up in Google somewhere.

[@patrickfoteff4994]

Romell was hurt badly in a Horch in an allied strafing run, headed back to the Normandy landing after attending his wifes birthday.

[@dieterberger1499]

Falsche Info! Hitler ist immer nur in einen Mercedes Benz 770 K gefahren worden.

[@philiphoward1731]

I think the Germans build better cars but the Russian car is very interesting I hope they didn’t destroy them all

[@kingearl1678]

Why didnt you compare with the third Massmurder, B. Mussolini? He had a very elegant Car.

[@VG-ey4gi]

Mussolini massmurder?

[@elseagullo4979]

- Fiat 2800 - Lancia Astura

[@listerstormablecartoonandt1103]

Lancia Astura (Benito Mussolini) Hispano suiza K6 (Francisco Franco) Peugeot 404 Eclipse (Petain)

[@rongrip1]

I’m thinkin that the Audi gets better mileage ???

[@randomdude9269]

Audi?

[@jagdpanther2224]

Unlike Hitler, the automobiles of Joseph Stalin were hard top instead convertibles!

[@moniquedujardin1824]

That can't be the original upholstery pattern, in that Horch. It looks too modern

[@JosephStalin-hv8en]

I Buy that for only 278 Soviet Rupels

[@DerLehrer97]

What the tittle of the first instrument?

[@AA2RAYA]

Syabab Unik its American civil war song called when johnny comes marching home Greetings from basra Iraq

[@forestmcneir3325]

When Johnny Comes Marchin' Home, a Confederate Civil War song.

[@nikosnikos4882]

Stalins car was bettet ...he is the winner!

[@junkcar2015]

I found it and made a video, look))

[@alexsveles343]

Darth Vader (Hitler vs Darth Sidious (Stalin)

[@clgndemokrat2102]

Horch = Audi

[@jamiewilmot4851]

German engineers!!!!!!

[@baseonbase2393]

I want all

[@paulsmith1981]

Which of these two socialist had the nicer wheels?

[@jorgearroyo1342]

No hay comparacion la tecnica Alemana es infinitamente superior a la de esos tartaros

[@hjyugstalk4663]

Xdd

[@giulioespositi9052]

...."BEAUTIFUL"!!!...."TARTAROS"...AHAHAH....REALLY THEY ARE JUST ASIATIC-PEOPLE

[@170mph5]

i think that staline favorite car was the american Packard :)

[@ehmodu]

yes, Packard Twelve. Armored.

[@forestmcneir3325]

The ЗИС 110 was modeled after the 1938 Packard limo. The ЗИС 101 & 101A look more American than European, superficially, at least.

[@randomdude9269]

American cars sucked and they still do.

[@fredricful]

Tett i autoprogramasjon verdens hisigste draps sørover uten følelser sett i gang.

[@Caesar88888]

I like stalins car more

[@segniw2]

We stole stalin's limo this week hahahaha

[@griffin3366]

Indeed

[@listerstormablecartoonandt1103]

Go to gulag 😂

[@TheGodliker22]

my father owns a 830 bk

[@FemboyBlake]

Thanos car

[@arvisbalodis3990]

T-40AM Traktor

[@pijjip]

Stalin has a cool mustache!

[@JamesAllmond]

I like Packards! Give me a Zil any time. Oh well, we all know this is click bait, probably for Audi...but still interesting video about cars we don't see often. And talk about the wrong music...Johnny Comes Marching Home? A confederate loser song? (I'm from the south and a descendant of one of the losers, I get to say that)

[@frankh2811]

JamesAllmond no winners in a civil war,all losers,they are always the most savage with great losses on all sides

[@kaeesmahdi6312]

المانيه وبس فقط

[@Rayoscope]

Monstermobiles.

[@gabbyjonson3498]

Vid is a joke made by a 2year old 0/10 here.

[@Abdul-cg4rm]

I choose russian cars.

[@Naughtybaz]

My Lada is better than your mercedes 😂

[@gianfrancocartella3598]

..... E I comunisti andavano a piedi e senza scarpe....... Ben gli sta

[@josebruxio7201]

BruXel / Escolhendo. o carro dos genocidas...

[@dimabalabanov6686]

The problem is that the cars Stalin used more than others were Packards. It was Twin six in 30 ties. Later changed to twelve model . Hitler used Mercedes 770 Grosser.