Doctor Who Season 20 (1983). Twenty Questions.

[@StamFine]

For Michael Gough fans wishing The Toymaker was mentioned: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3vKhKd3qr1nb80

[@davidbarry9690]

Yes bad omit

[@tomralfe5428]

Win

[@Vtarngpb]

❤🐖🍍🍕❤😊

[@monotonehell]

Stam Fine's Doctor Who retrospectives get further detached from reality each episode, and I'm here for it.

[@doctorlolchicken7478]

(1) The Amsterdam One (2) Snakes and Ladders (3) The Two Brigadiers (4) Nyssa in her Underwear (5) Pirates of the Constellation (6) Obligatory Master Story I saw this season when it first aired and all I can remember is Nyssa in her underwear and old fashioned ships racing in space.

[@SUK2293]

I found Nyssa in her Underwear to be very sexist and want to move on to Peri in her bikini

[@DAN44100]

That pretty much sums up season 20.

[@hadleighclark664]

I live for these reviews. Informative and always make me laugh. Thank you!

[@djpookie2000]

I agree, they are well made and funny. A nerd's dream come true.

[@Justin_Anvil]

I’ve been waiting for this!! It’s an early Christmas Present!!! (Seriously this is great)

[@jamesstewart7736]

Agreed it’s way too good. My dopamine levels have spiked and it may break the internet. 😂

[@williamcurry4868]

One thing I heard about the Kamelion robot was that the creator passed away, and no one else new how to program the robot, so that was why he was unused, not including all the other stuff that was a problem too.

[@marshallhuffer4713]

John Nathan-Turner actually salvaged Kamelion from a local junkyard and Mike Power was appointed to re-adapts the prop's functions. But right before finishing and Kamelion was to be filmed, Power died in a boating accident and didn't leave any instructions on how to operate the prop.

[@Robovski]

Hope you'll someday give Blake's 7 the same treatment as Dr Who.

[@hgwells1899]

Second that

[@darvon906]

The only thing a script for blake 7 is useful for , is wiping my arse.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

One of the great tragedies of that period of British TV is that Terry Nation wanted to introduce the Daleks into Blake's 7 as a surprise twist at the end of the first series, but the BBC blocked it...that would have been something amazing.

[@CyberSlammer2024]

@@darvon906 absolute nonsense, some of the scripts from l Blake's 7 like "Sand" were amazing.

[@x-crisis]

As a young man I appreciated Tegan and Nyssa running about in their bedclothes.

[@rjjcms1]

Can't deny I enjoyed that part of it too as a teenager back then.

[@daveroy938]

Hot Dam I love your review style. Really enjoying the Dr Who recaps, particularly this one. My wife and I walked down the isle of our wedding to Eye of the Tiger!

[@carlrood4457]

From what I understand, William Russel wasn't available for filming so the episode was rewritten with Lethbridge-Stewart. As many pointed out, teaching really didn't suit the character, but Courtney did his usual good job.

[@ryanhlfc]

They couldve done Barbara

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

The Brigadier should of really been in charge of the school's cadet force.

[@ezravanmelle4333]

A mixed bag of a season, but with a consistently awesome guest cast. I must say, Valentine Dyall's Black Guardian was always one of my personal favourite villains. Shame we never got that promised third encounter.

[@paulhunter6742]

The Darleks fan music videos, such a nice touch😀😁

[@Neil070]

I remember Micheal Gough as the Celestial Toymaker. He was terrifying, far scarier than the Daleks to me. Looking again at the story, not so much 😎 He was also the "best" Alfred imo

[@spacemanmattscifi]

Very well done. I gave it a thumbs up just for the Dalek karaoke 🎤. They need a recording contract. As a nerd, I do want to point out that Michael Gough was also the villain, The Celestial Toymaker from the First Doctor story that goes by the same name.

[@StamFine]

Yes. Totally slipped my mind that he had been on the show.

[@maxusboostus]

We need an Index to all the Dalek Karaoke parts in these videos. They are excellent, it's always a treat when one pops into a video.

[@johnpotts8308]

@@maxusboostus Here's hoping we get a Dalek Album at some point!

[@WayneSpillett]

Love the explanation of the British school system. You could simplify it, though: Public schools are so-called because most the public can't get anywhere near them!

[@BooshmanLee]

20's definitely old enough to drink in the UK. Great vid.

[@garyturner5739]

Not in States it is.

[@maxusboostus]

The "Hello" Dalek part at 6:37 was so moving.

[@paulkelly9803]

“thought that guy from All Creatures had let himself go” 🤣

[@2006bbbb1]

So to answer two things posed in this video. The idea for the Guardians to wear the hawk and dove was by John Nathan-Turner himself. He was asked this at an American convention and he took credit for it. The other thing was about Kamelion. Kamelion was supposed to appear in the second story of Season 21, The Awakening. A brief scene was filmed but subsequently cut.

[@D_Rogers]

I love how much the 80's Master liked his disguises!! :D Most of his plans are just excuses to wear more disguises.. He even stays in character when alone, a real method villain...

[@dogdrovenorth]

Limp-home mode: "Emergency lighting has failed. We only have mood lighting left. "

[@269productions]

Wow I didn't recognize Martin Clunes till now 😂 he looks so young, even younger than in Jeves and Wooster and way younger than doc Martin 😮

[@rjjcms1]

Or even Men Behaving Badly.

[@leejones8582]

Daleks singing Eye of the Tiger for Christmas number 1 lol

[@jacklawrence2212]

Another excellent video. Very funny - your stuff always makes me laugh. Loved the pizza toppings joke!

[@matthewmedley8532]

Just discovered your channel. Brilliant stuff.

[@artyfartblast3289]

Merry Xmas mate! You have entertained me all year with some great content and I just want to say thanks. Hope you have a wonderful Christmas and all the best to you and yours. Peace!

[@jessica23claire]

Let's also not forget that Dugdale aka Mr Poncy Ginger Bloke in a Funny Hat from Snakedance was played by Brian Miller, Elisabeth Sladen's husband, who'd turn up in the Capaldi era, as well as Sarah Jane Adventures!

[@carlrood4457]

While casting actors in their twenties as teenagers has always been common, Mark Strickson simply doesn't look like someone who could pass for a teenager and no one ever seemed to realize he was supposed to be that young (or at least look it).

[@John-tj9to]

Neither did Sara Sutton, when the guy refered to her as "children" I laughed, she looked equal in age to Janet.

[@hothemeep1219]

​@John-tj9to Sutton was truly a late teenager though. She was 19 during the filming of her first stories in season 18

[@Doctor_Smith]

First video I’ve seen of yours, so good. Love these quick fire reviews pointing out the funny aspects of each season. Agree with everything

[@ghayes220]

Well done and well narrated.

[@themirrorsofmymind]

I think I broke my collar bone laughing at the sound of the chicken/Ergon cawing! OW!

[@gestaltdude]

I saw this video a couple of days ago, and when at work, mind idling as it does when work is monotonous, it suddenly hit me. I knew the true purpose of Tegan (no offense intended to Janet). You see, here in Australia, the is a common phrase that, for Aussies, perfectly sums up those who come from the homeland then do nothing but complain about things like the weather and the tendency for local wildlife to try to kill you (you really do get used to it :D). We call them, "Whinging Poms." Of course those ruddy whinging Poms whinge about being called whinging Poms, which got as far as the BBC, who whinged about it. So in retaliation, they creted Tegan, the "whinging" Aussie. Think about it. Nothing ever satisfied her, she trusted no one (like she spent to much time getting attacked by the wildlife), and even complained when she leaves the TARDIS in Resurrection of the Daleks. Tegan is the ultimate middle finger to Aussies for denigrating generations of their spiritual cousins. (again, no offense intended to Janet, this is meant purely as a joke).

[@richmcgee434]

13:40 The space pirate outfits are pretty clear homages to 1950s era pulp scifi artwork. You got ridiculous bubble helmets in all shapes and sizes back then, frequently accompanied by outfits that left skin exposed to the vacuum of space. If anything those two are more fully dressed than many examples from the era - not uncommon to see a bit of cheesecake in a space bikini and rocket belt with a giant bubble helmet that left her perm unmussed, for ex. They're not *good* homages and they look cheap as well as ridiculous, but I can see what the show was going for. Also, shouldn't that be "Eyestalk of the Tiger" in the musical number? :)

[@mekonta]

They've always reminded me of the suits/helmets worn in the film adaptation of HG Wells' Things To Come (1936).

[@paulkelly9803]

“truth be told, it had been drinking for years”. ahahah 😂😂

[@inkermoy]

Thanks for the reviews! Yes, Mawdryn Undead is a stand out episode especially with the return of the Brigadier. Enlightenment is one of my favorites of the classic series and a fun romp (you expand your vocabulary with "ephemeral"). Why production would try to make a real humanoid robot companion is beyond me, didn't they learn their lesson about mechanical companions with K-9?

[@user-fp3ql4le6m]

Thank you, another brilliant vid!

[@SammEater]

Nyssa continues to be one of the cutest companions ever in my opinion. So cute.

[@Texaslawhorn]

Agreed! One of my favorites!

[@paulhunter6742]

I loved the promotion for vacation package to Termimus😃😆🤣

[@moonpawooe7134]

Doctor drip

[@andrewlevitt9386]

Michael Gough also was The Celestial Toy Master against Hartnell's Doctor, Steven and Dodo. Only the last episode exists.

[@ryanhlfc]

I knew I recognised the name

[@ryanhlfc]

Toymaker*

[@Hawkeye26]

Arc of Infinity: 1) The scene questioned about the tone and quickness of deciding to kill the Doctor clearly depicted itself as the end result of an earlier meeting. 2) Michael Gough's OTHER connection to Doctor Who was the fact that he had also already appeared on the show during the Hartnell era.

[@davidbull7210]

Surprised you didn't mention that Michael Gough's other connection, playing the celestial toymaker

[@rnw2739]

Clearly, this antipodean mong hasn't seen all stories of the classic era but feels totally justified in spouting about seasons like an accepted authority.

[@thedanielstraight]

The King's Demons external shots look like Sherwood from Capaldi's third episode.... And the internal shots remind me of Masque of the Red Death. Anyone else? Great review, sir.

[@Neil070]

Roger Corman and Nathan Turner probably had similar (squeezed) budgets to work with!

[@thedanielstraight]

@@Neil070 Great point 😂

[@djpookie2000]

I love your channel. I laugh out loud at most of your humor. "Put a dead bird on it"!, Portlandia is good TV.

[@RogueWJL]

Only in the JNT era could the most likeable of three companions be cut.

[@TurbosTantrums]

The Garm is a Lupari confirmed

[@RighteousBrother]

What is it about the dalek singing that is just so awesome? I've only just realised that its something of a recurring theme!

[@Andrew-ci6nw]

Love it. Hope you are going to breakdown Blake's Seven when you are done with Dr Who.

[@jimibaboza]

The doctor was way ahead of the times with those phat beats in his car.

[@exidy-yt]

I love these retrospectives, currently binging on these. I once had a very strange dream where I was a doctor's companion, except I couldn't speak when the Doctor was 'in the scene' and I kept waking up every time I saw a glowing orb then i' fall back asleep and continue the dream. I told my friend details of the dream and he said they sounded alot like Snakedance, an episode i hadn't ever watched, and that I may have been Adric in my dream, thus 'silenced' whenever the Doctor showed. Very friggin wierd, but there were only a few similarities to the dream when I went and watched Snakedance so that was both a relief and kinda disappointing at the same time. k, that's enough oversharing for today.

[@drwhofanman]

I Love Your Dr.Who Videos 🤣

[@DrTarrandProfessorFether]

AS a Dalek would say,” EXTERMINATE!! EXTERMINATE!!”

[@stephenpalmer9375]

Wasn't that also Keith 'Duty Free' Baron in Enlightenment - 2 Barons for 1!

[@adriansherlockdamondark.1094]

Absolutely none of it was planned. JNT decided to have Omega open the season as he opened season ten and it was not till the season was all commissioned that Ian Levine pointed out to JNT that every story had an element of the show’s past that JNT went “ oh yeah “ and told the press. The only reason Terminus and Enlightenment had an element of the past is because the Black Guardian sub plot was arced through them. As for Snakedance, it was just there because Chris Bailey was frustrated with Kinda and wanted to try again.

[@yussepig6629]

I love Kings Demons. The book is great. And Tegan throwing a dagger at The Master is everything. Leela would be proud.

[@rnw2739]

No she wouldn't. She would despise Tegan. Anyone who fled to the TARDIS trying to pilot it away through fear, content to leave the Doctor and friends behind (Four to Doomsday) would not score very highly with Leela.

[@SonofSethoitae]

​@@rnw2739I don't know how to explain to you that The King's Demons came after Four to Doomsday.

[@rnw2739]

@SonofSethoitae I'm at a loss at how to explain to you that your reply is meaningless. Firstly, when did I say 'The King's Demons' came before 'Four to Doomsday'...? Yes, that's right, nowhere. Secondly, If you think Leela would be proud of a selfish coward them you obviously know nothing of her character.

[@SonofSethoitae]

@@rnw2739 How do you not understand that people change as time goes on? Tegan grew as a person between Four to Doomsday and The King's Demons. Which I'd hoped was obvious, but evidently you didn't catch my meaning.

[@yussepig6629]

@Sonofseth:ignore this mw2739 fool, he doesn’t get reality and normal human behaviour. People go on journeys , no one is perfect . People can be scared and ‘cowardly’ and learn to be brave. No more fitting catchphrase than ‘Brave heart Tegan’. If mw 2739 was her he would have had a breakdown by the end of Logopolis, the fool.

[@richarddennise7317]

omg so funny daleks singing eye of the tiger great commentry

[@jonarse]

That's the only connection to Dr. Who you can come up with for Michael Gough?? He was the Celestial Toymaker!

[@StamFine]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3vKhKd3qr1nb80

[@carlrood4457]

Mawdryn Undead is the story most responsible for the UNIT Dating Controversy.

[@joerogers9413]

I loved Skippy! It was like Lassie (or Flipper) but with a kangaroo. 🦘

[@sazfretz1945]

I know David Collings from his roles in "Elizabeth R" and "The Shadow of the Tower."

[@mrburgess1698]

Anthony Ainley was also in Elizabeth R

[@sazfretz1945]

@@mrburgess1698 Yes, he was Henry Sidney, the brother-in-law of the Earl of Leicester, played by the wonderful Robert Hardy. David Collings played Sir Anthony Babington.

[@clumb1698]

Thank you, full of zingers as usual!

[@TheRealStevenBritton]

21:43 “People of earth, your attention please. This is Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz of the Galactic Hyperspace Planning Council…”

[@dlarkindc]

Xanadu, Hello, and now eye of the Tiger!! LMAO

[@Holeyguagaamoley]

This is much better good stuff mate.

[@thehorrorist3471]

I was listening to this & didnt even have to look at the video to know why I was hearing chicken noises lol.

[@CamMcGinn1981]

Enlightenment: Good piss. 🤣🤣🤣 I love being an Aussie and totally understanding that. LOL

[@Warriorcats64]

Holy crap...I had no idea Doc Martin was in Doctor Who, or honestly ever that young.

[@Jasonm25870]

In the UK you're old enough to drink alcohol at 18 and old enough to drive at 17.....

[@idontuseahandle]

No mention of the ghastly fluorescent socks? I’m shocked!

[@14DaveHunter]

Kameleon was like an attempt to appease fans, who missed K-9.

[@daverage4729]

Loved the Val Kilmer reference. (LMAO!) and the double does of 'Dalek Karaoke!'

[@timidwolf]

As Doctor Who is British and the legal age to buy alcohol in the UK is 18 he's been able for almost two years by this point! ;)

[@jbaldwin1970]

Was the list of Michael Gough’s links to Doctor Who a massive troll? We’re you maybe “toying” with us?

[@StamFine]

I guess it is now.

[@TheDukeofMadness]

This is honestly where I usually take a powder, or at least it was the last two times I watched through Doctor Who. That special is the way to finish it.

[@klaxoncow]

Ah, Nyssa. **swoon**

[@caacrinolass3501]

I'd buy a Dalek karaoke disc. Make it happen!

[@maxusboostus]

We need an index pointing to all the Dalek Stam Fine singing sessions in the various videos. They are hard to locate.

[@caacrinolass3501]

@@maxusboostus yes, agreed! I like pointing them out to those around me. Well, I think it's funny enough to share anyway!

[@maxusboostus]

@@caacrinolass3501 I've gone through the videos and I think i've found them all. I've added a commend to this video with links to the ones I found. Enjoy.

[@richardtaylor533]

Also what was going on with Turlough's eyebrows?

[@scottybee8]

this has been heavy rumoured in the collection set for a couple of years now and is coming soon

[@DWor-]

Guardian is just not the same without the big Cost Plus wicker throne. The black guardian has some nice Hot Topic threads.

[@toddclayton]

No Ham and Pineapple on Pizza? Get the Mind Probe.

[@WalesintheMovies]

"Good piss" Subscriber for life 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🇦🇺

[@Steven_Andreyechen]

Mentions Micheal Goth’s has a connection to the show by marrying a former companion, forgets he was literally the main villain of a serial in season 3. Bold move.

[@StamFine]

yes, he was. Though, who would you prefer to see a clip of, Toymaker or Polly?

[@Steven_Andreyechen]

@@StamFine fair point, this is preferable lol 😂 Also probably more obscure as trivia as well

[@paulohagan3309]

@@StamFine Toymaker. Much more interesting character

[@mailjimmygalaxy]

YES!!!! Christmas came early

[@stephenhester9804]

There's a Remastered version of Enlightenment on DVD that polished up the SFX a bit.

[@SplotchTheCatThing]

16:50 oh good Black Guardian, 'cause if you just drop it and don't say it again, then this plotline can finally be over. You know, I seem to be under the impression that Lynda Baron has also appeared on the modern series of Doctor Who, but I can't remember when...

[@lizsaysthing]

good lord, i wish Mawdryn Undead featured Ian. the world where William Russell took up that offer might not bemuch better than the world we're in, i'm pretty sure, but it does have Ian in Mawdryn Undead.

[@briananthony4044]

Is that a werewolf with Davison at 1:03?

[@djpookie2000]

Damn, those Terminus costumes look so bad. Nothing says space pirate like a punch bowl on your head.

[@auxlen]

Great stuff.

[@purefoldnz3070]

The soundtrack for the this season consisted of wooowowowooooo perhaps two keys on a basic synth

[@diverguy3556]

10:11 David Collins was also Legolas in the BBC radio adaption of Lord of the Rings. Shame on you for not pointing this out. Your nerd credentials should be revoked.

[@JennyDuncan-o3r]

When you do Season 21, I would love if the title were: "Doctor Who Season 21 (1984). Old Enough To Drink."

[@rjjcms1]

Except in the UK we were legally entitled to drink from 18,a milestone which I reached shortly before this series aired.

[@stephenmundane]

I very much enjoyed this, at the time and your review, then it was all downhill for a few years with Sylveter McCoy until the inevitable end. We may have reached a similar end with NuWhu. Was it Chris Chibnall that said, "Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." Or perhaps I'm thinking of somebody else...

[@GamerWho]

Seasons 25 and 26 are really good. Dunno what you're on about.

[@darkwebonline2124]

Before I move on to the next video, I should just point out you forgot to mention Michael Gough was also the Celestial Toymaker in Season 3. EDIT. Oh.

[@parlinmains]

Was the dog in Flux supposed to call back to the one in Terminus?

[@StamFine]

i don't think so.

[@Enevan1968]

Doctor Who was broadcasted in Holland, but only the Tm Baker era. So it was known, but not the fact that Peter Davison was the new Doctor.

[@deadNightwatchman]

Garm is the name of the hellhound from Norse mythology.

[@eccremocarpusscaber5159]

Incontinental breakfast might have been more of a giggle 😃

[@algomaone121]

Omega looks a lot like “The Guyver” to me...

[@ronniehazelhurst9078]

Season 21 in the works, Stam?

[@StamFine]

In the works, yes

[@TheBlackSeraph]

At least the musculature armour in Terminus looks better than that of Bram Stoker's Dracula.