Stampede 4x4 1/8 scale 2650kv brushless motor & Hobbywing WP SC8 ESC

[@bryanhamby6287]

You can change the drive frequency in esc to eliminate the cogging

[@familyman8644]

While I got ya on this note hobbystar makes some good 120c discharge rate batteries with the hardcase and terminals for great price. I just bought another pair because my last pair lasted couple years with about 200 runs each year and finally starting to show fatigue.

[@alonzosmall2806]

That's a good ezrun esc... I love it

[@petechipps9770]

It’s probably frowned upon by the Traxxas fans but I ended up putting an Arrma 3s blx system in my slash 4x4. No more heat issues and seems to have more performance than stock system.

[@JorgeBouza257]

Hey I have the same issue with overheating how does that system run as far as heat goes

[@kitchenbriks3685]

Try adding a cap pack to reduce clogging. That esc should have come with one

[@kzes2591]

how long in millimeters is the 1/8 motor can, thanks

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I really don't remember. 60mm maybe?

[@derekquinones8614]

Idk if I programmed mine right when I turn the esc on should it be blinking red all the time?

[@kevenlastname3324]

Turn the motor "advance timing" down to "0" and it won't cog at all. it is set to 15 by default. If you still have it

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I do still have it, and soon I'm planning on doing a video devoted to cogging, so I'll definitely give that a try.

[@kronchyrodriguez]

Hey keven, how do I change advanced timing?? Thx

[@kevenlastname3324]

@@kronchyrodriguez through the ESC programming. If you have a castle ESC then get the castle link(15$) and do it through the interface on a computer.

[@Bige4u]

Excellent upgrade, i recently did the same for my stampede 4x4, but i purchased the brushed XL-5 model so i could convert to brushless myself with an esc/motor combo of my choosing. I had bought the same ESC as you, but my motor is from XTMracing and its a 3300kv 3655(550) size 4pole unit and both dropped into the chasis w/o modification. My truck came with a stock 9t pinnion, coupled together with a 2S 5000mah 30c lipo, it ran a bismal 14mph, then i dropped in a 3S 4300mah 40c lipo, speed increased to 21mph, next came a 12t pinion and while still using the same 3S lipo, speed increased to 32mph. I do have a 17t pinnion avaialable to use, but 30mph was my goal and then some it seems, so its there to stay for now, and as far as cogging goes, my setup just barely does it, way less than yours. Other upgrades includes aluminum shock caps, front and rear adjustable turnbuckles, replaced the plastic center driveshaft with an aluminum one and proline trencher tire/desperado wheel combo setup. Keep in mind that the DIFF gear ratios differ from the brushed XL-5(3.92) and the brushless VXL(2.85) trucks, as you can see, the XL-5 has lower gears for more bottom end power, but less top end speed, and the VXL has less bottom end and more top end speed all because of the differences between brushed vs brushless motors. Good Times

[@Frumundaair]

So I have a question. I have a Traxxas stampede 4x4 vxl that has been sitting for quite some time. I went up to the local hobby shop and it was determined that esc and motor went bad. I ran this setup years ago and always had over heating issues. Well they sold me a Castle Creations Mamba x with a 1406-2280 motor. I think I messed up by listening to him because it wasn't what I expected for the "upgrade" it's geared at a 17t but it's really not fast on top end and actually has an annoying high pitch sound when running. I'm running a 3s lipo but I'm just not satisfied with it. Any suggestions? Did I fuck up by adding such a low kv motor? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

2280kv should do ok on 3s. The whine is probably the operating frequency of the ESC. You can raise that and you'll probably stop hearing it. Use the Castle Link to connect to your PC and you can make the change.

[@Frumundaair]

@@BudgetRC_Channel ok thank you. Should I be gaining alot more out of a let's say 4s..I'd love to run 6s but don't want to break everything. How bout gearing? Looking to drag (1 lb) squirells around the yard) mostly grass running fullspeed

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@Frumundaair I'm not sure what you'll need for gearing. Mine is 2600 or 2800kv and I geared it way down because it was uncontrollable on 3s, but you can probably gear up a bit if you're not happy with the speed, just watch your temps.

[@nathanwilliams2555]

I have a stampede with a castle system and run only 3s and have gone through many driveshafts

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Until you upgrade to MIP X-Duty shafts, you'll keep breaking them

[@VenomousB6U6R6N]

Mount the esc higher behind the front shock tower. The motor needs a heat sink. Both those devices put off heat, should probably separate em a bit.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

If you're having heat issues, that's good advice, but this truck runs cool as a cucumber. I can go bash it for a whole pack and still touch the motor and ESC. This 1/8 stuff doesn't pull any current in a lightweight 10th scale truck, especially with how I have it geared.

[@VenomousB6U6R6N]

Nice, didn't think of that.

[@VikingDudee]

I got me a 3670 motor 2650kv as well, Its slower, but boy are temps way better than the VXL ever was, Love the VXL, but it just isn't enough, especially with heavier tires.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

2650kv is great with 3s

[@familyman8644]

The mips still bend. Id keep the stock ones. They last almost as long as the xo1 drive shafts

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Not the MIP X-Duty shafts. They're bomb proof.

[@familyman8644]

@@BudgetRC_Channel ive tried the 80 dollar mip heavy duties too. Still bend in high speed crashes. Nothing is bulletproof. Plus you want those to break instead your differential when you run those cvc machined driveshafts

[@westfield5264]

how was torque with the 16 t pinion

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Bill Satterfield it was very good. I could wheelie at just about any speed.

[@REDFOXMOTOVLOG]

can u give me the name of that apps?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

will smith I don't remember the name, but there are a ton of GPS speedometer apps available.

[@chrisstoner816]

What gear did you have in it for the speed runs. 16/54?

[@quanrccar3137]

how to program that esc show me just send it please

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

This ESC can be programmed via the "beep" method using the button next to the on/off switch, via a programming card, or via a PC, which also requires the programming card, or a USB adapter dongle. there are a lot of Hobbywing programming videos on KZbin that can walk you through all 3 of these methods.

[@familyman8644]

Need mod 1 gears like 34/30 with grp tires and you should see 90+ mph on 4s with 2 100c 2s paired.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I have no need for 90mph. I geared the truck down to about 37mph. That's as fast as I can use where I play.

[@walterjackson8449]

might try a higher c rating on the battery is more amps

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Walter Jackson this battery is more than enough. The beauty of running higher voltages is that you can gear down (or run lower KV) and get the speed you want with lower current draw, which is easier on the batteries.

[@beachinrc101]

You still have this truck lol I’m a hoarder with my rc’s😂 but idk if that moter is supposed to be run on 2s that’s probably why such a jump & difference in speed with the 2s & the 3s

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I still have it but I can't remember the last time I used it. I should get rid of a lot of the relics that I no longer use.

[@beachinrc101]

@@BudgetRC_Channel yes u should I’m up for buying anything lol😂🙏👍

[@philsprowl7296]

Did you program the esc? I have the same one and it never cogs even on 2s 30c lipo. If you haven't I would highly recommend it. The card is around $15 on eBay

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Phil Sprowl I did, in fact I have the USB interface that allows me to tweak the esc far beyond what you can do with a programming card, but I can't get rid of the cogging.

[@MattShimaFox]

What kind of 3s battery do you use to fit in the stock hold down?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Matthew Mizushima, I bought the oversized battery strap kit. It comes with a taller rear block and a taller front stud. With it, you can use much larger batteries. My primary battery for this truck is a 500mah 50c hard case SPC battery that is quite large. However, my other pack is a 5000mah 25c soft pack and that one fit in the stock tray.

[@lonniewalker4441]

So, if no cogging is the goal, you need a sensored motor/esc. The cogging is expected, and normal with unsensored motors.......that's what sensored & unsensored means, with a sensored motor, the esc knows the exact position of the rotor in the motor due to info gathered using the sensor wire. Unsensored motors cog when taking off..... it's not a flaw, or something that needs fixing, it's normal

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Lonnie Walker I have sensored setups in other vehicles, but 1/8 scale sensored setups don't fit the budget I set for this truck. That said, there are motors & ESCs that are better than others with cogging. This isn't one of those combos. If you look at my Ruckus rig rundown video, you'll see that the Tacon motor in that truck exhibits virtually no cogging.

[@nomore25]

Hi mate! How this compared to quicrun 10bl120?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I'm not sure. I haven't used that model.

[@ElMeeN]

servo kg please?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It's the stock Traxxas 2075 servo.

[@joshuasmidt8595]

i think you went too short of a distance on 2s so it didnt cross a full gps point at top speed

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I drove it up and down the road a few times and I went pretty far. It was really slow on 2S.

[@marcosdo995]

Are you Happy with this combo set Up ir It runs bad ?

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

I'm quite happy with it. It's got more power and speed than I can handle, and it runs cold even it tall grass.

[@olds97lss]

That doesn't make a lot of sense with 2s vs 3s. Should only really have a 30% increase shouldn't you? Would be curious what it does with 2S and 17/54 or 18/54 as far as speed and temps. I'm currently in the same boat. Just running 2S with the 2.8 chevron tires and VXL. It seems fine with 14/54 at the moment, but guessing it will run hot when it warms up outside. For me, this seems to be a good speed. Not overly slow, quick enough at the skate park. A little slow on wide open running, but I'm not usually gearing for highway speeds, I don't want it to feel though slow either. I was thinking of going this route you took, but I really didn't want to run 3S if I didn't have to since I have 2 brand new 2S packs I just bought... Suppose I could always use them in my revo. I'm guessing the 1/8th scale setup really shortens the run time as well. Would be curious about that too. Good video. Really shows me what I may have to look forward too in my near future.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Bryan L the larger motors really seem to lose efficiency at lower voltages, and I think that's why there was such a difference.

[@chimmychaunga8443]

My stampede 4x4 has a mamba monster 2 in it on 3s, boy is it fun but it snaps driveshafts like no other haha

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Put in MIP X-Duty shafts and you'll never break another one.

[@Stanleybb50]

You didn't give enough distance on 2s for your phone GPS to recognize the speed properly. I say this because I've seen it on my phone doing speed tests. I'll bet if you try again over a longer distance, you'll beat what you did on 2s last time, even with the new 13t pinion. :)

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Brad Adamski that's certainly possible, but my experiences driving it were consistent with what the phone showed. It was disappointingly slow on 2s.

[@camorcconcepts8043]

nice! subbed ya!

[@pmatrisotto]

4s!

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Ha! I couldn't control it on 3s! I geared it down to tame the top speed.

[@radimziegler7079]

Im pretty sute that the stampede is a 1/10

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Yes, and the motor I put in is a 1/8 scale motor.

[@scotthunter4348]

That cogging… put it in a 2wd and it wouldn’t be doing that. It’s your driveline not the motors.

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Reducing drive train load (2wd vs 4wd) or lowering the pinion will help reduce cogging, but the main cause on these cheap setups is the startup code in the firmware of these cheap ESCs. Brushless startup code isn't super easy to execute, and most of these ESCs are copies of very old, very primitive models with primitive firmware.

[@JorgeBouza257]

Hey I have the same issue with overheating how does that system run as far as heat goes

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

It runs very cool. I geared down to a 13 tooth pinion, and on 3S my motor temps didn't even reach 120F running through thick, 3" grass. By running higher voltage on a lower KV motor, you use a lot less current.

[@westfield5264]

Budget RC i had the same problem with the vl. it was fine for 2 months then it started overheating and everytime i ran it my run times got shorter. went over the entire truck(bearings etc) to check for anything in the drivetrain such as dragging. nothing helped. I put the 2250kv castle mamba max monster 1/8 scale motor and esc in it. i run 18t pinion 54 spur and its crazy. whole different truck now. i get 30-40 minute run time on 3s 5800 mah traxas id batteryand not even the wires get hot. motor is 120 degrees. it has made my stamp my go to truck and is so much fun now. im running around 55 mph +-1 mph. cogging is non existent now. i run trenchers or the super swampers. it cost me quite a bit for the castle setup but i am certainly one happy camper.Thanks for the vid bro

[@bionicblitz171]

Bought this exact system and when I turn it on and run it (not connected to anything at all) it gets hot VERY quickly. ita brand new and after 10 seconds of full throttle it becomes uncomfortable to hold due to the heat. tried it on a diffetent esc and it dis the same thing. did I get a broken motor?!? I'd appriciate any help. Thank you

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

Sounds like something in the deiveteain is binding. Pull the pinion off the motor and verify that everything spins smoothly. Spin the motor by hand and see how it spins. If all that checks out, reinstall it and make sure the gear mesh isn't too tight.

[@bionicblitz171]

+Budget RC Thank you, but the motor wasnt mounted, just in my hand and it spins freely (besides the magnet force) theres not much on google about it :/

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@bionicblitz171 so the motor gets hot just turning in your hand?

[@bionicblitz171]

+Budget RC yeah... not over volting it, bearing are fine and the whole thing will get too hot to hold in 15-20 seconds on 5s does the same thing on a difrent ESC. still spins (not sure if its full speed or not) but draws 8A

[@BudgetRC_Channel]

@@bionicblitz171 motors don't like running with no load because they can spin too fast. It's also possible that this motor doesn't like 5s for the same reason. Put it in the truck and try it on 4s and see what happens