Stan Lee - Creating The Fantastic Four (15/42)

[@kemocali6504]

I could sit and listen to him tell stories all day.

[@joshuapurvis32]

Me too It keeps u entertained and want to know more from him he's one of my heroes and my other hero is walt Disney

[@crunchy1547]

Yeah, he always had that charisma. What an icon.

[@mryoyoserpico]

i know! i love and miss stan lee so much!

[@Beavixiam]

Same

[@tommy_swim243]

Dude I literally just did lmao

[@vinchenzomoralesiii2606]

RIP Stan. Thank you for influencing my life like no other.

[@Anmol.singh.10]

Love how Stan casually said THE JLA made him do a Superhero team. Just shows how often and how normal it was for Marvel and DC to take inspiration from one another and give these ideas their own take and touch. While Fanbois these days are triggered by this small fact

[@unknownm9131]

I want a grandad like Stan, always has a story to tell, always has new ideas, always smiling

[@Falcovsleon21]

Well technically they still don't wear costumes. The Fantastic Four's outfits are more like team uniforms then traditional superhero costumes in my book.

[@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker]

But I think it would have been cool that they wear regular clothes, i think it's more realistic

[@AliFareedMC]

Like Jack Kirby's Challengers of the Unknown

[@zacqwan3525]

@@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker no, how will human torch, sue and Mr. Fantastic use their powers

[@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker]

@@zacqwan3525 Buying new clothes

[@zacqwan3525]

@@SonPerrosJugandoAlPoker bruh ☠️

[@tananatana4011]

That was a phenomenal call by Stan. It's amazing to me how both FF and Spider-Man who are two of my favorite properties of Marvel happened due to pure accident and risk taking since neither were expected to be successes, but it's that exact realism which Stan Lee added which made those characters so engaging. Like the powers at that point are simply an icing on the cake, the true spotlight takes this phenomenal family dynamic you can create

[@ralphgreen8424]

RIP Stan Lee. I miss him.

[@emilyhehn282]

RIP Joan Lee

[@clverma2429]

It’s so unfortunate that we can’t hear many others stories which stan lee has created. Rip legend. You will always be my superhero and legend.

[@FlippyEveryDay]

I could just sit an listen to him talk about how he created every single one of his characters and I wouldn't get bored

[@shahrukhknight-99]

RIP Stan. Thank you so much for the wonderful world you create.

[@johnstraub7494]

I read comics as a kid. Loved the Marvel line because of the writing and the use of science and mythology. They weren't your regular type comics, they made you feel as if you were. Thanks to Stan Lee and other comic book writers, I got hooked in reading as I got older. I read a lot as I grew up. Probably thousands of books over the years. I still read a lot to this day. Reading helped me with learning new words and that translated to my speaking and with words I was not familiar with, I was able to figure out what the word I was unfamiliar with, what it meant.

[@PlayerSalt]

Respect Stan

[@Evan.Arapis]

I wouldn't be surprised if Stan came up with Ben Grimm and Johnny Storm after watching a Bonanza episode back in the late fifties-early sixties, The Thing and The Torch remind me so much of Little Joe and Hoss Cartwright, their bickerings as well !

[@Starwarsfearsome]

❤️❤️miss him glad I got to meet him

[@mateolabid2114]

Thgedgsdgesd

[@UndeadNerdT800]

This is why I love the F4 They are basically everyday people. Family, celebrities, smart asses (the thing), their differing interests.

[@anujkushwaha6225]

Thankyou sir for your contribution in the creation of comics and super.

[@michaelrandall8962]

I just recently came up with two strange alien bad guys and they are THE SHAPEMAKER and THE COMBINATOR that no human being on earth could not handle them just as strange like PRINCESS POMPADORA herself.

[@nobody-pu2ep]

Only man who succeed from imagine lies while enjoying them.😂 Thanks for ur service stan

[@zenneronline4881]

Writer and a good story teller,love him ❤️❤️❤️

[@kaze459]

R.I.P Legendary Stan Lee thank you for all the heros you gave us

[@jamesstewart9341]

My most favorite superhero team 😊

[@andreworihuela5175]

once The Fantastic Four: First Steps is about to come out in July I'm going back to this video as this will be a good video to learn the background/history and understand how important they are to Marvel Comics and this will be the first Fantastic Four movie after Stan Lee has passed away

[@michaelrandall7229]

I already came up with some strange weird planets for aliens like ATMOSPHERIA MULTIIPLON EBONY ASTEROID ZANTARIA HELLION THE WOODEN WORLD with the characters that lived made.

[@informedcitizenry874]

I like seeing Stan Lee

[@Bonzi_Buddy]

The Fantastic Ratio. It works.

[@normanby100]

The FF didn't wear costumes in their first 2 issues because they were distributed by DC, who didn't want any superhero competition, So Stan had the covers highlight the monstrous nature of their foes so they could pass as monster stories. Once they took off, they were launched in issue 3 with full costumes as DC could no longer complain.

[@scottgh8285]

One day, I think they will call this, Neo-American Mythology.

[@00allred]

He’s like a grandpa talking about superhero’s it’s amazing

[@lylegabrielg.poblete8108]

Genius

[@taylorsachs5779]

I never thought about how they have the a uniform instead of a costume.

[@mrmoon1045]

Ya stan not to much dialogue amazing spider man issues take forever to read

[@christopherlyons5900]

Feel free to mention Jack Kirby, Stan. Anytime now. So the idea to do a team book was not his, and since Marvel didn't have famous heroes with costumes who had their own books then, it couldn't be like Justice League. (And anyway, JLA League was long pre-dated by JSA, in 1941. The character designs were obviously not his, because that was Kirby's job, and they were all standard established types in comics. Human Torch first appeared in 1939, only h was an android--he is a wiseass like Johnny, and honestly not much different looking when he's flamed off. Stretch powers--Plastic Man first appeared in 1941, Elongated Man in 1960 in a Flash comic. Invisibility, c'mon, H.G. Wells. Though you could find the idea in ancient mythology. Sue Storm's powers were hardly anything amazing for a female hero in that timeframe, or decades earlier. She was a ditzy dame who got saved a lot in the early issues, and worried all the time about how she looked. She didn't get the ability to create force fields until '64. Strange Tales #79 featured a giant green monster called The Thing, but leaving that aside, Ben's original appearance greatly resembles The Heap, who first showed up in Airboy Comics, 1941. There were tons of reluctant monster types, but I will agree Lee wrote Ben fun dialogue that stuck out. I am by no means sure all the humor came from Lee, though. Kirby did funny books before he ever worked with Lee. I guess I believe he wanted them in civvies all the time, but that's him taking credit for an idea he himself admits comics readers who liked FF's first issue did not want. But wasn't it original that the team all wore basically the same color uniform, that did not disguise their identities? Not if you've read Challengers of the Unknown, which Kirby did for DC, back in 1957. Lee could just say "I used a lot of old ideas and jazzed them up a bit." That would be fair, and he does deserve credit for changing up the old formulas. But that's all he did. Everything else is him telling a self-serving narrative about how he did everything. Which isn't unusual in the comics biz, many examples, but that was because none of them owned their ideas, so they desperately sought credit, and would be jealous of attributing anything to anyone else. Throwing ideas back and forth in the Bullpen, probably hard to remember who came up with what. But without Jack Kirby's artwork, Lee wouldn't be trying to take credit for FF. Because nobody would remember it ever existed.

[@creekchub4200]

John Constantine and The Punisher doesn't wear costumes

[@theawesomebat1244]

He was talking about the traditional superhero costumes that were established in the 1930s-1960s. Punisher was created in 1974 & John Constantine was created in 1985 (the era where comic books began to make mature content).

[@SgtSega]

Punisher kind of does.

[@tektoniks_architects]

So DC had a successful group of heroes.... And Goodman suggested doing a comic of a group of heroes united as a team..... And Kirby created Challengers of the Unknown 5 years earlier for DC...about a quartet who resolve to band together after a crash landing.... And Challengers of the Unknown had a character named Rocky, who was shot into space and returned with multiple superpowers, including invisibility, flame throwing, and super strength..... And Kirby created 25 or so pages of FF #1 plot and imagery from a one-page outline Stan gave him.... ....and somehow it's Stan's creation? Marvel and the MCU never happen without Lee, as he was their greatest salesman. Credit given. The greatest character Stan Lee ever created was Stan Lee. But be real about who did what. If asked, Stan never denied credit to his "artists"....but he never corrected people who gave him the sole title of "creator" or "writer," which is - at best - a half-truth. His failure to tell the whole truth is a stain on his immense legacy.

[@LoneWolf-lk6gj]

Never knew that! So, the FF are basically the Challengers of the Unknown in a different suit.... 🤔 But, be that as it may, Stan Lee’s creates other characters which were pretty successful....

[@TED_Frames]

Tektoniks Architects He always says he’s the co-creator of Spider-Man with Steve Ditko, rather than the only creator. And he also said at times that he would give people like Kirby and Ditko outlines for them to work off of; giving them trust to come up with great stories along with the illustrations they create.

[@AliFareedMC]

@godzillarex888 Good one I love the sarcastic tone of your comment lol

[@rolanddeschain9880]

Stan was idea guy Try and do research stan was co plotter and editor

[@reuben8648]

It didn’t stain anything. Good try.

[@michaelrandall8609]

Stan lee Is the most awesome creator of all time but if I was much more different like him the princess pompadoura episodes liked HUMANPROOF The INVADERS From The SUN The INVISIBLE POMPADOURIANS The SPELLBOUNDING BOMB The Day The WARWORKERS DISAPPEARED FATAL FALSE PRETENSES The INVISIBLE PRINCESS POMPADOURA IMAGE INVASION and for others it would be sensational of the horrors of the second war and the atomic age as well.

[@tetsuoswrath]

He didn't like the costumes? Thank God Kirby did the art instead of Lee.

[@katricedizon8611]

I think

[@Zymo3614]

I feel like other than Spiderman, The fantastic four were Stan Lee's favorite superhero, but sadly all their movie were meh at best

[@nicholasjanke3476]

The fantastic Four wasn't totally original for Stan. The Human Torch character wasn't created by him (neither was the often supporting character in the FF, the Sub-Mariner).

[@AliFareedMC]

Bullshit Jack Kirby created Fantastic Four

[@SgtSega]

They both did

[@esihleklaas6794]

Jack kirby and stan lee as a team created them

[@ducedevlstear2471]

For me personally, the F4 is kind of boring very grey group in comparison with X-Men, Justice League or Avengers. In all honesty, I would even forget that they exist and only remember them when I come across characters like Doctor Doom and maybe Silver Surfer.

[@esihleklaas6794]

Well in my opinion they are pretty awesome, they just work in my mind

[@ismailmounsif1109]

people in the 60s disagree with you if they were as boring as you think they will not be selling more than the justice league or the xmen back in the 60s

[@ducedevlstear2471]

@@ismailmounsif1109 people in the 60s is the key point here. Back in 60s Xmen didn't have the background developed and the art was outright horrible. But they are lightyears away from the 60s today. "People back in 60s"

[@MrCrispian]

The way he fucked over Jack "king" Kirby was disgraceful how he lives with himself and crows about HIS achievements is disgusting.

[@finnhemsley6285]

MrCrispian language

[@obaidabbasi5194]

The way he's Absolutely lying about it and everyone is just Straight up eating it. Kirby was the one who actually created F4 not him

[@katricedizon8611]

My granpa create fantastic 4