Stan Lee's Worst Ideas

[@JonathanFournier]

I mean, I'd argue NHL Guardians was one of the NHL's worst mistakes. Stan Lee just got offered a gig and took the money.

[@Thederanged1]

Through I am curious what a superhero for the Vegas Golden Knights, Seattle Kraken and Utah HC would look like.

[@SavageGreywolf]

@@Thederanged1 Well the superhero for the Vegas Golden Knights belongs to the other guys.

[@Game_Hero]

@@Thederanged1 what else but a knight in golden armor? A kraken for Seattle and....wait, what? WHAT? How in the world did they get a hockey team before Québec City 30 years effort to gain their team back????

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Maybe Striperella? But yeah, his output in the 2000’s was, uh, not the best .

[@Mateus_Carvalho]

I imagine a comic book about the Coyote working on keeping the Coyotes in Arizona like the NHL did for a decade or so would be a tinge funny.

[@GhostBusters-wb4un]

Dr. Droom walked so Dr.Strange could run.

[@comicbookreviewer4856]

The way I worked on DR droom is be more like John constantine and have him be related toKulan Gath due to learning he was Blood related to him and Have him set up a magic business to deal with magical dangers that doctor strange can't do

[@pn2294]

But Strange levitates

[@lunarmodule6419]

And Max Hea-droom!

[@Shinmsl]

Walked on burning coals

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Inhumans, stripperella,Niteman. WTF Stan?

[@ian7064]

Stan's Batman got tough enough in prison that he could've just taken down Handz whenever he felt like it. But no, getting the mansion first was an integral part of the plan lol

[@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x]

And that fancy suit!

[@romulusnuma116]

His first victory was self improvement his second was improving his financial status his last one was ending that guys life

[@princecharon]

The best revenge is to live better than your enemies.

[@kenm.a.d.7196]

He needed to style on him in every way possible first. Honestly, I respect it lol

[@KTF0]

He should've just stayed a wrestler. Dude became John Cena/Stone Cold level in several weeks.

[@TheRealJethuty]

Im a simple man. I see a comic tropes upload, it makes me happy.

[@DavidH1]

Samesies.

[@madmaxandrade]

This is the kinda channel whose videos you like before they even start loading.

[@shawtymcthroatsnatcher]

I'm a simple man. I see KZbinr upload a video, I use a generic and overused comment before even watching the video to farm likes and feed my dopamine addiction.

[@MuhammadAli-xw4yc]

So true.

[@suedenim]

Hey, Who Wants To Be a Superhero was pretty good, in the context of its time. Some of the contestants used tried and true tactics of reality show vermin, only to get told by Stan "Hey, did you forget the part about being heroes, not villains?" and kicked out.

[@gridlo]

I watched it in the context of its time and still thought it was pretty terrible

[@caucasoidape8838]

Reminds me of Steven Spielberg's reality show "On the Lot" . Not only were the contestant films hilarious trash, but Spielberg looked so bummed out to have to be there in the final episode.

[@BrianGeers]

It was one of the few reality shows of the day that I actually enjoyed from start to finish.

[@gridlo]

@@BrianGeers It was so staged I couldn't suspend my disbelief. And I'm a comic book fan. One guy got kicked off for NOT revealing his secret identity. Stan said "heroes are supposed to be honest." wtf???

[@BrianGeers]

@@gridlo Oh, the rules were arbitrary as heck, no lie. I think I remember the third place guy essentially just got kicked off for his concept being too derivative (despite being probably the strongest talent on the show). The show was total nonsense, but it was entertaining nonsense.

[@ShogunZIlla]

Stan Lee a true legend but also definitely a Funky, Flashy Man! 😅

[@Duragizer8775]

That issue of _Mister Miracle_ lives rent-free in my head.

[@MariaVosa]

Me at the start of the Dr Droom backstory: "Well, this is basic and an underbaked version of Dr Strange but I don't see how it's so bad it... 4:12 - Oh no. OH NO! Nope nope nope!

[@JamesBurrTV]

"Suddenly I am good at Math!"

[@chantillycat5415]

He could be revived as the original Dr Droom and be the villain of "cultural appropriation". Ha

[@Duragizer8775]

When you read the earliest Lee/Ditko Dr. Strange stories, you notice that Strange's also depicted as a white man who gets yellowfaced after learning the mystic arts, though not to the same extreme.

[@TheGuyInTheCheapSeats]

He's turning Japanese-ah Oh, he's turning Japanese-ah Oh, he's turning Japanese-ah Don't you think so?

[@MariaVosa]

@@Duragizer8775 Ouch!

[@MandatoryReporter2015]

I’m just starting this and paused it to predict: Stan’s worst idea was “no costume for superheroes.” It was only fan-letter backlash to “uniform” the FF that changed his mind.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

The why Stan made cameos to Deadpool or Venom is simple: It was a Marvel tradition in general. An Deadpool and Venom are Marvel characters so... Ta-da.

[@harrypartridgelive]

Another great episode, Chris. I loved it as much as I have always loved Dr. Droom, who I have only just now remembered.

[@buckdancer8916]

*The Vapor’s - turning Japanese plays on radio* Stan Lee “excelsior, I have a great idea”

[@hxcnoel]

Strange that the Guardian Project came out at almost the same exact time as NFL Rush Zone which also had superheroes called guardians-- it was pretty much the same exact concept but swapping NFL for NHL. It's tempting to accuse one of them for stealing the idea, but they must have been in development at the same time

[@DeadHierophant]

Engagement for the algorithm. Come on YT, shine the spotlight for our buddy Chris.

[@EpicBeard815]

7:48 I dunno, maybe it was the fact that it was on a drafting table, next to all your art supplies???

[@ahmedshaharyarejaz9886]

Stan Lee's Batman and sundry are good stories if you remember that these are more like initial drafts that need some recalibration. The basic ideas are ok.

[@TheDanishGuyReviews]

Stan Lee's worst idea was clearly "Love Be A Vulture".

[@petehill7280]

3:13 No, there were earlier weebs. In the 19th century, the Irish writer Lafcadio Hearn became not only one of the first modern western scholars of Japanese culture, but also married a Japanese woman and moved to Japan and lived there in the last years of his life.

[@ontos8914]

“Let’s talk somewhere more private” walks a few feet away and speaks louder

[@nonautomaton6230]

TIL The American version of "Who wants to be a Superhero" used adults... Lol 😆

[@tonymichael4531]

Chris great video as always. Not sure if it came out but there was talks about Stan Lee making Ringo Starr into a superhero

[@4124V4TA-SNPCA-x]

I actually like the Let's imagine! Stan Lee's DC characters. It had an overarching theme and villain and sure it wasn't that remarkable -- and frankly, all were quite derivative. But it was more of a marketing gimmick anyway. Yet I have enjoyed it quite much. Aquaman and Superman is better imo than the original versions, even if Superman isn't really heroic. The others are also ok. Batman is indeed the worse. I was also surprised I knew all of these apart from that cringe CGI NFL superhero project. But that's soo very American (and not a fan of any American sports) no wonder I haven't heard it.

[@GVZNABRUTO]

I would like to hear you talk more about just imagine stan lee, I worked at a comic book shop when I was around 17 and got it the while colection for pretty cheap, maybe it's time to revisit it because I only read it a few times. I mainly remember liking the flash design

[@MrJohndoakes]

19:21 The thing missed was not a comic book, but a person, his brother Larry Lieber. Larry edited some real duds for Atlas Comics in 1974-75 because it was a time of real desperation in comics and they threw everything at the wall hoping it would stick. And it didn't.

[@Tur713]

idk how far it got along, but I remember a teaser at Marine World about a Stan Lee super hero team taking the place of the dinosaur motion simulation ride they had there

[@Forcemaster2000]

I'm sorry, but I liked "who wants to be a superhero"! I enjoyed it.

[@takanabanana]

the stan lee manga was pretty wild, dont remember whether it was good or not

[@angelmanfredy]

Who wants to be a superhero was awesome! Scripted yes but really entertaining and had life lessons. Good enough for 2 seasons! Also, Stan is in it more than you offer.

[@maskedmarvyl4774]

I always had a soft spot for Dr. Druid. "A Dr. Strange with weaker powers". That's a perfect description of the character. Yes, he was goofy-looking with a goofy name. Yes, he was far below Strange's power level, but he used what he had against far more powerful adversaries. He was an underdog character. However, one of the Marvel writers hated the character, wrote a story where he did despicable things to increase his power, and then had him killed in the most humiliating way possible, and cremated in a trash can no less. Why Marvel allowed that I have no idea.

[@tellumyort]

I love when Chris flexes his pro wrestling knowledge and uses terms like being stiff.

[@JONNYSORENSEN_AU]

Turdenstein vs Leadpool. Now that was a comic classic kids raved about 😂

[@muigokublack6487]

I actually liked "Who Wants To Be A Superhero?". I was pretty young but it was fun watching it and I remember the guy who was Feedback was really passionate having grown up reading Spider-Man and taking his lessons to heart.

[@THE_Dodge_Morningstar]

😂I remember seeing The Ambulance as a kid. With "Victor Newman" playing the villain... Great stuff.

[@user-ww9gq4zo8t]

The first time I saw Dr. Druid was in “Marvel Zombies vs The Army of Darkness” comic. Ash tricked the poor guy into thinking there was a cure… 😅

[@freack3333]

Stan Lee's Batman beating up pro wrestlers sounds a lot like the Ultimate Warrior, he would also stiff his opponents. 😄

[@JosephJamesScott]

These were probably all ideas he didn't steal from someone else.

[@ladymecha8718]

6:42 I read in a Power Pack comic that they were filming at Marvel for a movie, back in the 1990s. They were all excited about it, but they never gave details, like what the movie was called. Now I know. 😂

[@kanna-san.]

There was a pilot filmed but it's semi-lost

[@AkuTenshiiZero]

Stan Lee is proof that all you need to do is hit more than you miss, and people will ignore all the failures. Even legends don't knock it out of the park every time.

[@christophertaylor9100]

Actually that line read of the "sarcastic line" worked. But it is odd that he's less energetic and dynamic in an acting role than he is just talking to someone in real life.

[@johnnydropkicks]

1:22 This made me laugh. 👍

[@AlexRamirez-fj4dj]

I was hoping you would cover the sentry but maybe that should be a show in itself. Also covering the age of sentry mini which was fun but the last issue ends on a very dark tone of sentry in modern day marvel.

[@gizzardwizard1795]

I'm using “that went over like a lead turd” now

[@primeparagon]

Chris did the thing! Miss your intro's. Always happy to see a new video.

[@mercythebuzzard3134]

Would love a full video on Lee's Justice League

[@Dreadjaws]

I only watched the first season of _"Who wants to be a superhero?"_ (to be fair, I wouldn't even learn there were additional seasons until years later) and while it was cringy for sure I found it entertaining. It was interesting to see contestants being divided between regular fame-wanting reality TV fare and actually want to feel like superheroes by doing good. Major Victory was by far my favorite. He really was into it, doing silly poses and overacting, while also being the one that always wanted to do the right thing, even to his own detriment. And I call BS on Stan Lee for taking him out of the competition only because he used to be a male stripper (and, to be clear, in real life and not as part of his character's backstory). Meanwhile, the gladiator guy (whose name I can't remember) that was a fireman in real life had a _massive_ ego problem and thought of himself as better than everyone. His job is commendable, but he certainly didn't give hero vibes.

[@mpbMKE]

I was so excited when I bought that Stan Lee Batman book (I still have it in my collection somewhere), and I was so confused and baffled that I assumed I must have just missed something. Everything about it was completely tone deaf.

[@bes03c]

That Stan Lee impression is fantastic.

[@TheYogaDawg]

Dude, you’re great. And your Stan Lee impression is on point!

[@noneofyourbusiness4616]

He also had the bad idea of taking the stand to argue that Kirby's family didn't deserve any compensation.

[@shinyocelot04archive]

Oof. At least Kirby was one of the few Marvel writers who got credited in the movies.

[@JebeckyGranjola]

I saw him at around 3 or 4 comic conventions in the 2000's, and every time I would see him i'd shout, "Stan Lee was the bomb in Mallrats!" Now that I think about it, he probably had no idea what I was saying and thought I was some deranged maniac who kept showing up and threatening to blow up the building.

[@egoborder3203]

anyone know who did Eric Robert's art in Ambulance? It looked kinda familiar

[@ComicTropes]

Gene Colan.

[@elmerhoward3484]

His cameos are because he is The Watcher he even meets them in Guardian's of the galaxy

[@catlawyerwilldefendfortrea6038]

His cameo in Princess Diary 2 is my favorite

[@michaelpalma6346]

You can say Batman wanted to get his hands on hands 😂😂😂

[@balthazarasquith]

Seeing how it's Stan Lee I thought the name would be Dr Drew Droom 😅

[@TimeStudyQuinn]

It’s so bizarre seeing Stan Lee and Brian Peck right next to each other at 8:39

[@bebob415]

That batman nightwing bit made me laugh out loud

[@djlaw56what]

i remember t he stan lee show in the syfy channel he was going to pick someone as a superhero and made a movie out of it

[@RealCoolGuy]

Oh yeah! I totally remember those Stan Lee DC comics. I thought they were fun. Didn't really remember the Batman one though

[@HorribleHomeVideo]

i like the newer intro but cant help but prefer the older song. it use to get stuck in my head all day, this new one is luke warm (the song not the animation)

[@blackmagician7645]

6:21 Still, a great quip response none the less.😄

[@Pyrorufus]

I like the "Just Imagine" titles. Even the Batman one isn't that bad, in my opinion. The redesigns of some of the characters, particularly Wonder Woman, were cool.

[@HMAlves]

No words, just pictures ☝🏼

[@TadashiYee]

There was also a post Pam Anderson Stripperella comic.

[@shawnfreehling6444]

Thanks for the awesome Father’s Day present, Chris.

[@MightGuy15]

I miss this dude so much

[@hence2nd]

nah you kinda of pushin it with the acting one i think he did alright

[@christopherrushing5857]

great video! you rock dude! i would love to see a joe kubert episode!

[@chickensandwich9977]

Love the Stan Lee impression

[@GIDAEONGULLY]

Sick Intro, way to go man.

[@paultimson6674]

i thought this was going to be about dreadful characters like Nova and OMEGA. Lots of 1976 titles that bombed.

[@9japopart719]

Dr. Bong from Howard the Duck has got to be worthy of inclusion on some "worst idea" list. I first saw him as a kid, and even back then (I'm 53 now), I realized I was being presented with true dreck.

[@dreamlandnightmare]

Stripperella should be in this list. It's worse than most of these ideas.

[@Arashikage32]

Regardless of any faults that he had (we all do) , I absolutely still love Stan Lee. In my humble opinion, no one else has done as much overall for the medium as he did.

[@worldoffood123]

Nobody is perfect! Even an absolute legend like Stan Lee had to make plenty of mistakes to get where he was.

[@Monothefox]

I guess Heavy Flo was a post-Lee invention.

[@c.a.k.comedy692]

There was a tv show called stan lee’s superheroes but it literally had nothing to do with any superheroes stan Lee created lol

[@JasonColby]

I prefer to pronounce it "Doctor Doctor Oom".

[@monterrang1]

& i thought the new fantastic4 1978's magneto episode was a monumental stan lee blunder...

[@kevinconnor3187]

Thanks!

[@DBG750]

Dr. Droom should have been the rival to the Frantastic Four.

[@crackerjack0349]

With the Batman thing and prison. Yeah. Prisons have libraries and gyms in them. Not exactly sure what the criticism is there. Plus im pretty sure Wayne was convicted for racism and stuff like that.

[@SmrtPhonRtistCF]

16:32 The Duck, are you serious? This is something that should be in The Tick, not an superhero that should be taken seriously. Also, there's The Mighty Ducks disney cartoon with them as TMNT esque heroes....ironically enough, the same writing/producing crew is those of TMNT 87.

[@HaloisTight]

Stan Lee's Batman: I'm Man-Bat mutha fucka!

[@dlee827]

If Dr Droom had kept his original name he could have had some confusing battles with the Latverian fellow.

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

He looks like Xavier.

[@americancheez]

Hahaha

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

So this is where the template for Xavier came from?

[@cha5]

@@nehemiahpouncey3607 And also possibly The Chief in The Doom Patrol.

[@cha5]

@@nehemiahpouncey3607 And also possibly The Chief in The Doom Patrol. Although as I remember he wasn’t a telepath, he was bound to a Wheelchair though and set up a home and training center for super powered misfits, (but not mutants.)

[@juliuswilliams4447]

Thanks!

[@myyoutubeaccountgotsuspend8666]

"Oh hi! You caught me defrauding a nursing home. Speaking of stealing money from the elderly, let's talk about Stan Lee!"

[@turtleanton6539]

Mm😮

[@JoeChillton]

Damn 😅😅

[@jonothanthrace1530]

Too soon, man!

[@Windwalker88]

I wanted to say, having a vile daughter must have been one of his worst mistakes

[@marcosnoero9318]

Captain? Some sauce please?

[@tmxcomics]

TBF, The Batman was just the Count of Monte Cristo crossed with Spider-Man's origin, which sounds amazing in theory.

[@Hy8us6012]

Isn't that just Batman Beyond

[@dsgitlin]

It seems like a cross of Luke Cage and a sliding doors moment with Spider-Man.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

And it honestly ends up being one of the better DC heroes reimagined by Stan.

[@Windwalker88]

It is funny Droom is the Dutch word for Dream, which would be a way better name for a sorcerer: doctor Dream

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

When Stan can't get the rights to His own work be like:

[@nehemiahpouncey3607]

Dr droom looks like Xavier.

[@TheNightBadger]

My reply got censored because it contained a link... a KZbin link. Thompson Twins had a song called 'Don't Mess with Dr. Dream'.

[@JohnMinehan-lx9ts]

I don't think any of those creators were Dutch or spoke Dutch . . . . The Yiddish word differs ("khlum" in the Roman Alphabet . . . . not sure Ukrainian . . . .

[@MacCormaic]

That sounds worse tbh.

[@pikapal91]

To be fair to Stan, that line read about liking his girls healthy was delivered really well. Got a chuckle out of me

[@fanaticist]

wow. hi reddit.

[@dorianxanyn]

I got an Alan Alda Hawkeye impression from it

[@WarriorBoy]

I agree, I think Chris was a little too hard on him with that one. The line delivery was dry and seemed very much in-line with Stan's real life humor

[@ObsessedCollector]

I enjoyed Stan's acting.

[@Number8z]

I agree

[@SpoonDude]

It seems to me that Stan Lee just liked being known as the “Marvel creator” so he had no problem cameoing in basically every Marvel movie regardless if he had anything to do with the characters

[@channel45853]

i think he was green screened into deadpool

[@Shinmsl]

I remember him saying he gladly would take the chance to do cameos on DC movies too if they invited him, so he just wanted to be comicbook based movies Waldo I think

[@thegreatscribbles960]

​@@Shinmsl I belive it he did teem titans go and his line "I don't care that it's dc I love cameos!

[@OM19_MO79]

@@ShinmslHe also appeared as narrator in many of his shows, a lengthy appearance in Muppet Babies and lets not forget his Simpsons appearance. Even extended it to his wife. Madam Web was based on Joan and she even voiced her on Spider-Man. Wouldn’t you love to live in Freakazoid’s world where even a fanboy doesn’t know who he was?

[@matthewwoodruff1270]

Are you implying that Stan Lee was willing to take credit for other people’s work and politicking his way into a position where he is can be given far more credit than he’s due while those who do the actual work can die penniless while he gets rich and famous? Because, well, yeah. Exactly.

[@charlesweinert4116]

In an era of reality television that encouraged contestants to behave in the worst, most selfish, pettiest way possible Who Wants to be a Superhero rewarded selflessness and generally acting heroic. It was a real breath of fresh air.

[@ChimeraMK]

Really liked Major Victory in Season 1. He was just a fun guy to be around. Even when he got eliminated, he was able to get everyone to smile at the end.

[@Sanguivore]

I agree! That show always made me happy.

[@GreatFox42]

did reality tv ever really _leave_ that era?

[@markmyers6756]

It should also be noted that feedback's powers were supposed to be copying the powers of video game charters but in the comic he just zapped people with electricity.

[@Nocturne22]

Copyright issues galore!

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

That’s exactly what I was thinking! I know it’s probably down to Stan being an old man with little knowledge of them viddy games and such, but it still seemed like a wasted opportunity to not incorporate Videogames into Feedback’s power set. I would love to see another writer with actual knowledge of/respect for video games to re-imagine Feedback.

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

@@Nocturne22I mean, they could easily get around that by either him getting powers from the genres of games Feedback plays (I.e. platformers give him the powers to jump high and fall from great hight without getting hurt, ruthenium games giving him super reflexes etc), or use copyright safe expys of popular video games and characters.

[@SuperSongbird21]

@@Brianna-eo8nu What was to stop them making up video game characters to get the powers from?

[@thewerewolff7248]

@@SuperSongbird21 dial h for hero sorta does a similar thing by making up superheroes that parody the style of real ones for the dial holder to turn into

[@lhfirex]

Even when Stan Lee screws up, it's still pretty entertaining.

[@van8ryan]

2:55--Droom literally looks like Professor Xavier from the traditional green suit to the literal "Yellow Chair" (just not a wheelchair)

[@channel45853]

Exactly what I though it would be funny if they asked patrick stewart to play him if he ever gets in a film

[@Shinmsl]

Rumor has it that Stan took the role in The Ambulance (and wasn't the at least another movie he was in around that time?) to have some acting experience under his belt before acting as J.Jonah Jameson in the Spider-man that James Cameron was soon making. But that project fell apart as we all know, however, I think Stan playing Jonah could've been cool, I've always thought Steve Ditko created Jonah just a caricature of Stan himself

[@MacDagger187]

Neat trivia!

[@MrHantz101]

I dunno, I can't picture cheerful, smilin' Stan Lee as the irascible, shouty, naive JJJ 🤔

[@AlanSmitheeman]

That's a great idea that Steve parodied Stan with Jonah. I think you're right and it went right over Stan's head!

[@MacDagger187]

@@MrHantz101 Me either, but I can absolutely see Stan wanting to take the role all the same!

[@Alvin-o4d]

I remember an interview with Stan Lee where he even mentions he's all set to play J.J..... then oddly posing with his hands in the Spider-Man web shooting pose.

[@dimitreze]

c'mon, acting was not his idea he was not trying to break in Hollywood as an actor he just took some jobs he was offered, it can't be classified as his idea also, he was not that bad on those roles

[@alexrexaros9837]

Special Mention goes to Stripperella, a stripper super hero who does stripper things and solves stripper related problems. Her villains are also made in poor taste.

[@sabbathjackal]

Hey man I loved stripperella when I was 12

[@Noperare]

Hey, Stripperella is cool on all her raunchy and cheesy glory

[@DarkOverlord96]

...strippers are poor taste?

[@chriseichenberg6879]

If i recalled correctly Stan Lee did the DC after he was let go from Marvel. I think it was basically a figurehead type status at that point. Who wants to be superhero? was cheezy but a posituve cheezy. You couldn't win with underhanded methods you had to act like well a hero. Like that clip with little i think that was from the 1st one . . . the task was like timed go from A to B but there was crying lost little girl. The winners were the ones that helped the girl.

[@Brianna-eo8nu]

If nothing else, you gotta give it props for being one of the few reality tv competition shows that actively encouraged its contestants to be good people instead of vapid assholes who stir up drama.

[@OomaGooma]

I love Chris’ impersonation of Stan Lee. Gets me every time. 😂

[@andrewgeraci8798]

In all honesty, I think Stan did a pretty good job acting. Being the ham that he is, he is, he could project his lines pretty well it seems