How Citadelle Des Morts FINALLY Fixes the Dark Aether Storyline

[@Stanley557]

Hope you liked the video! Let me know what you thought! It was not easy talking without a script but I think I still provided some really good analysis IM SORRY I SAID THE MAP NAME WRONG 😭

[@DevilsShoesOnSon]

Don't have anything on the map directly, but can you nag wendigoon about his cod zombies story video you were helping him with, that'd be great thanks. I will also say I'm curious about where the story is going and that they better sort out the VA stuff as it stands I'll finish out this game regardless because I paid for it, but if that isn't resolved then this is for sure gonna be my last game bought seeing how they keep treating the mode and people tied to it just gets disheartening be it staff or players. I just want to add as an additional note to this that I only buy cod games for zombies and strictly treyarch zombies, but after vanguard it's become strictly treyarch titles not just the zombies modes they work on for example I completely skipped mwz and even though I bought vanguard I never even completed a single egg on it and barely played it to begin with.

[@Stanley557]

@DevilsShoesOnSon yeah i don't know if he'll be doing it. Brother simply got to busy but no idea honestly

[@domzombie9946]

​@Stanley557 brother is extremely busy especially right now lmao, but yes hopefully wendy can get to it soon🙏

[@shreebington]

still kills me that they spoiled the major revelation of this map in an intel audio 😭 and such an interesting one, unforgivable

[@itsgoodcrispy8947]

I remember finding that intel on either my very first or second play through so that big reveal was kind of a letdown

[@bobthebuilder9509]

LMAO my first match on CDM was a public match where the others knew how to do the EE… was looking around for intel logs and stumbled on that major revelation, and when it was hinted to right before the boss fight I accidentally early spoiled the teammate who was also going into this blind 💀

[@EclipseVenexus]

@@shreebington how will this effect the presidential zomboys

[@user-nb5uw5ui9i]

i think they want to reward people finding intel and those people get more context to the reveal and the casual audience just can just follow the cutscenes

[@GunnersCorner017]

That audio log should’ve been locked behind completing the egg instead of being out in the open

[@patrickhart1245]

citadelle day moys is crazy

[@EclipseVenexus]

Minus *certain* artificial issues we’re tackling…we’re starting REALLY good with this. Citadelle is wonderful.

[@connordunn2541]

Citadelle de moye

[@hyanehighoctane]

I am French so it kinda pains me hearing it pronounced like that because like Where did the T go

[@aexens7430]

😭

[@Stanley557]

I thought you guys didn't pronounce hard syllables 😂

[@connordunn2541]

@@Stanley557 The frenchman among us can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe its pronounced "day more"

[@Stanley557]

@connordunn2541 Oooooooooohhhhh. Thank you

[@LuvzToLol21]

The way Weaver speaks can be chalked up to his accent. His backstory since BO1 is that his family escaped Russia during Stalin's regime and fled to the US where Weaver grew up, and eventually he got a job in the CIA. That "deflecting up" is kinda just a quirk of how many bilingual Russian/English speakers talk, as is the strange way he says Richtofen. It's like "Rich-TOH-fen". But in Russian, putting the emphasis on the second to last syllable is common.

[@Stanley557]

Interesting. I should've provided an example of his voice acting in cold war during the intel because it's geinuely perfect. It just feels like on terminus and citadelle it comes across as trying to hard and pushes what his voice should naturally sound like

[@josebosua1489]

I am not even french, but the "Citadelle De Moye" pronunciation is killing me lol

[@Stanley557]

@@josebosua1489 I'm sorry! Lol

[@DevilsShoesOnSon]

De mor say it with me Stanley lol

[@Stanley557]

@DevilsShoesOnSon de moi

[@xZombieJesusx]

And him saying CROFT instead of Kraft

[@DeadMetal75]

6:31 I actually think personally craft being richtofen‘s stepfather makes a lot of sense as an escalation of the Maxis relationship that started as a lead researcher/doctor and his assistant/coworker to the origins version who was his college mentor to now his father figure is his actual adopted father it almost feels like eventually we will meet Richthofens real parents in the next iteration of his parallel self. Furthermore, I think it makes a lot of sense that every version of Richthofen has this need for a mentor who inevitably exposes him to whatever magic or science that will drive him mad and lead to Rick Taffin’s father figure being killed or betrayed in someway by Richthofen

[@joshuashawYT]

23:00 I don't think it was me you talked to about this but I'm going to pretend we totally had an in-depth and intellectual conversation about this lol. Great video though as always Stanley! I'm a fan of where the BO6 story is headed, my theory as of now is that the Sentinel Artifact we're looking for is tied to the Roman deity Janus.

[@curley22]

Citadelle des MOYE and CROFT pronunciations get me every time😂 mostly joking, love the vids

[@Stanley557]

I know Krafft is correct. Des Morts i got wrong lol

[@curley22]

@ only messing around haha love the vids

[@Groovy999]

If you can't make fun of everything, you can't make fun of anything. It'll be OK. You can't let words and stereotypes get you upset. If you do, you're gonna be very upset in life all the time.

[@Stanley557]

@Groovy999 i agree you should be able to but times have changed. It's why I bring up alpha Omega and classified where the writers sanitized their characters for the sake of changing times

[@ElCocoLocoBarrocoComeMocos]

Totally agree with the direction they're taking towards EEs, me and my friends have solved all of BO6 on our own, and it has been some of the most fun we've had doing EEs ever. As much as I love the BO3/4 eggs in gameplay, they really fall into this trap of making the eggs the main draw of the map, while simultaneously making them pretty much impossible to figure out for 99% of the player base. WaW-BO2 EEs could get away with that, because the EE was NOT the main draw of the map, and CW over corrected too much to the point where they're so easy that even solving them on your own doesn't feel like an accomplishment.

[@122superspider]

I think the best way to view chaos in this new time line is to see it as soft cannon. Unless they say for sure the chaos maps happened, it's just easier to think the artifacts and existed but the characters did have the journeys we played.

[@jasonblue7220]

finally getting into zombies again means i can once again enjoy hour long zombies video essays 😩

[@TheLazarusOperation]

Glitch is the best guide dude ever. So underrated

[@TheHoodedGamerr]

Finally, a review over a minute long

[@MiniorDebry]

Im glad to see someone else feel the same way I do about our crew so far, they really feel too much like they are trying to do Ultimis again, even if the story just doesnt fit it.

[@Pigpen_YT]

Really great video as always. People are gonna get mad at you for your Ultimis take even though you're right. I really like the map and if the next three maps are this level of quality or even Terminus quality, I think we're in for an insanely good year of zombies.Also when listen off the special enmies, how could you forget nest crawlers! They're like the best new zombie variant in the DA story! They're epic!

[@brosfirehawlk4606]

Loved the video and this causal video style. Also, loving citadel. Still trying to not die to the boss lol

[@thatguyted4140]

It’s crazy how they love giving carver attention in MP but not zombies.

[@ShutterPawMedia]

An hour of Stanley? We will be watching! 🍿

[@DeadMetal75]

The slow drip feed is definitely what makes everything they’re re-implementing so interesting 40:41

[@bockmeow]

Thank you for mentioning the dynamic boss music. That had me sooo hyped when i first played it.

[@kandrevv4355]

babe wake up new stanley dropped

[@DJAK792]

Awesome video! The pronunciation of though 💀 My french sucks so I just call the map citadel. I’ve been loving the map and the swords!

[@user-nb5uw5ui9i]

You should have mentioned at the ending cutscene with the Weaver voiceline of "he is your what" hits more knowing he and Samantha killed Richtofens family which basically started Richtofen wanting to take revenge and get the sentinel artifact and it also shows how much more guilt weaver has for the whole crew being imprisoned.

[@Discredited_Corruption]

I gagged every time you called it “”Cidell Day Moi”

[@Stanley557]

I'm sorry!!!!

[@rizzytizzyflavor623]

I'm only watching this a few days late, but what I think about your capacity comment is pretty interesting to talk about! What I think about the Dev Team is that they kinda have a hard time balancing overall lore, and escalation. For instance, the original Aether Storyline - while it was kinda connected to the lore of Black Ops, just went completely off the rails by the time BO3 came around, without referencing and using much of the original story beyond "hey hey look at the shiny reference!" And for the DA Story, I feel like it's kinda the opposite now. I honestly think the interconnected universe is fantastic, but it's clear that the lore for MW has been hobbling them since Cold War.

[@aerinfrae]

I love your thoughts!

[@dictatorkenji]

I absolutely LOVE the bo4 integration in bo6 and it’s the only reason I am so into this zombies this year. While during the absolute hell of end of Cold War to now i went back and played IW, bo4 and bo3 and now bo4 and IW are some of my favorite zombie experiences. While ik IW wont be shown anytime soon im so happy that bo4 has finally been introduced into the whole over arching story Edit: however, I am still sad at how the Easter eggs have gotten. DOTN is one of my favorite maps and to see that difficult charm gone does hurt a little bit but overall I love CDM

[@skuff-f7e]

I believe that this is one my favorite maps to come out in recent years after Cold Wars Zombies Mauer Der Toten, with the medieval vibes being amazing and also the boss fight being one of the cooler ones. Hopefully the next map will live up to this one, because so far all the maps in Cod 6 have been extremely solid with Terminus being another map I enjoyed way more than I originally thought I would.

[@CrowAtNight]

Thank you for another cool video, Barrera

[@HSizzle1000]

Another big thing for me with the character quotes is that you can tell that there isn’t many at all. Every single game of zombies I’m getting the same quotes over and over again which is something i never noticed with the old crew it felt like there was like over 100 quotes per character back in the day and now it feels like they have only like 10.

[@SGrad64]

It’s probably been quite a while since you’ve played the older games, but there was DEFINITELY repeating quotes. It happened very often, especially quotes triggered by actions.

[@SaviorQuest618]

Hour long Stanley story video? Sick

[@Sir_Slimbread]

I wouldn't say there's any issue with the Voice Actors(apart from them being replaced of course). Weaver's VA has been Weaver since BO1(he reprised him in CW where he sounded fine), and is an extremely talented VA, so he doesn't need any vocal coaching or anything like that. I don't know what the issue is, but it probably lies more on whomever the voice director is(and the problems behind the scenes with AI and replacements).

[@lucioradio2094]

After every maps release, me and my buddy Jacob like to hop in a call and give our thoughts on the maps story and future narrative threads since we're both massive nerds about the Zombies storyline. For context: I absolutely adored Cold Wars narrative and especially it's intel. The combination of small scale horror narratives from Lost Souls to the mil-sim framing of Requiem and their attempts to understand the Dark Aether and the entities within. Citadelle Des Morts is the first time we've been completely deflated by a maps story and the potential it has in the future. Gameplay wise? This map is exceptional. The swords are obtainable and powerful, Doppleghasts are incredibly fun to fight and The Guardian might beat Legion for the best boss fight in zombies history. Narrative wise? I've lost almost all investment in Dark Aether. This started with the Terminus outro cutscene which read like an MCU stinger bringing up five point at the screen name drops that feel forced and come out of nowhere. Biggest gripe by far is the inclusion of Chaos within the new games narrative, it explicitly set itself apart from Aether and worked under it's own rules which are now being ignored/retconned to fit within Dark Aethers new mission statement to reference every previous mode. A good way we framed it was that we wouldn't be surprised if they name dropped Jim Decker as a Project Janus security chief and how eye-rollingly dull and small it would make this story seem. I loved what Chaos did but seeing Gabriel Krafft (Vanguard) talk about the Pegasus (Chaos) and his estranged son (Aether) to the requiem crew (Cold War) is tiring and strips Black Ops 6 for having any personality on its own. We broke off from Aether, had a fresh start in a well established new narrative and the team just seem to be taking a shovel to the grave of previous modes for fan service. It feels like it's just spinning it's wheels and going for cheap callbacks instead of telling a compelling narrative.

[@Fragile_Media]

It's me I'm that Jacob!!!

[@lucioradio2094]

Sup Pookie ❤

[@dietrichedwards7173]

citdadelle des morts nah citadelle de moi

[@Jason-uz5mj]

Ravenov was there as he was the one interrogating Krafft, he even says "that's more than I got out of him all week" or something along those lines when you talk to Krafft

[@ronconcolacao]

7:20 in my personal opinión, i think that referencing the house nd the origind cutcene is one of the best thinks they could have done 4 the narrative, i mean it gives Edward motives to replicate SAM and or to try and keep it safe away from janus.

[@Danny-pd4fj]

the lion sword is fantastic the charged attack fully heals you but yea it does take a while to get it charged up

[@VictisII]

I really like the map it’s great! If they ever figure out the whole voice actor situation I would really like them to add a lot more voice line across all maps for the ex-requiem crew, like that non stop banter we had with the older crew was awesome

[@Spagettim]

I love you Stanley *proceeds to breakdance*

[@funEman]

thank you for actually bringing up the problem(s) with Ultimis

[@takrequiem5706]

10:51 I almost laughed but dw we got your back

[@Brutus_the_warden]

Im about to get gamepass soon. Can't wait to try this out

[@wheresthepudding946]

Nice video !!! You should check out the JANUS figurine on Boa island in Ireland. It has BIG bo6 zombies storyline vibes - it kinda connects to the Roman god JANUS (god of doorways/beginnings etc) in that they both have 2 faces. I don't think the stone figurine would be a massive part of the story but could very well be an item involved in the quest/Easter egg and has some really cool lore as well !!!

[@TheLazarusOperation]

I want to adore the map. I really do. Playing it casually is hella fun. Running the egg is pretty easy and enjoyable, though the boss fight in solo is really annoying. I just wish the swords hit multiple enemies. That ALONE would bump it up a full number for me. Finding the Maya miniboss thing randomly on my first ever game was a memory I'll always have

[@JohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnnyJohnny]

I agree with a lot of your story points, and I really think, the unfocused character work, and the upcoming return of the original 4 being likely, bo6 will be the last game where I focus so much on the story. Not to mention the AI replacing all of the good VAs

[@Taitosalad]

Is this why we haven’t had streams this week?

[@Stanley557]

@@Taitosalad no i actually had other issues outside of this video.

[@ThamTvMaster]

Electric Incantation can 1 shot Amalgam I love it

[@7MD_1]

I don't know if it's just me, but you have some moments when your voice goes high-pitched, and it hurts, but it needs just audio adjustment. All this aside, your content is really good and I'm looking forward to it.

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

I don't think one map can magically fix it all. I'd argue that bringing back Chaos and Primis - whose sacrifice supposedly concluded BO4, the OG storyline - is a form of narrative glue-sniffing. Craig and Jason failed at writing a compelling narrative for Chaos, aka this "brand new storyline" no one cared about, but now suddenly everyone is happy they are bringing it back in BO6. Like, come on! Give me a break. Is the bar really _THIS_ low? Here's a joke: *Primis crew dies for the better tomorrow for the second time only to come back in BO7* > I thought you were dead! > We got better?

[@kazmoole9090]

i hope they fix the too many characters problem by adding in a playable peck ravenov and straus operator

[@Killerfin100]

wake up babe, Stanley uploaded!

[@butlerisfly2031]

Did they change movement speed in this game? Before the map you could move swiftly with staminup but now I feel like my character runs so slow even with that perk. At times I find zombies run faster than me even when I’m sprinting

[@DeadMetal75]

17:25 grey is trying to match cadence with misty and weaver is trying to match tank and that’s just not who those characters are so it doesn’t land as much as we would like even if the characters are really fun, I think people want Ultimus because they do instead of say weaver has a line that contains the phrase I’m so crazy but he never talks about anything crazy he’s done and we haven’t seen him do anything crazy so it feels like he’s trying to be a type of person not that he is that person. I agree we definitely need to lead away from the stereotypes from Ultimus it’s the worse part of their characters and 100% isn’t what makes them funny or interesting but what does work is they follow through on what their character is supposed to be and so far in the new crew as much as I love all of them the only one doing that is maya and she need a bit of tweaking to be less x games extreme wannabe.

[@DeadMetal75]

9:25 I agree crafts should have survived. It doesn’t make a lot of sense for him to go ahead and be killed off other than they are trying to dispose of as much of the Vanguard story as possible while also bringing in some of the good stuff.

[@Ayoohesiii]

somebody please tell me what button you can use to take ur sword back out after pulling ur gun out.I have to use the statue every time😭😭😭

[@Stanley557]

@@Ayoohesiii hold the melee button. It'll take out your dedicated melee weapon

[@FionnMoriarty]

OH HEY ITS STANLEY

[@Nezovera]

30:41 COFFEE BEAN NEEDS ATTENTION

[@bettercallzombie]

MORE CITADELLE DE MORTS MORE NOT MOI

[@Musicnote328]

Gonna have to disagree man, Solais is easily the best of the swords. With its ult charged, you regen armor per kill. It’s a one hit kill on normal zombies. Combine that with either Vampirism or Expresso on Melee Macchiato and you can sit in a corner and almost never die- and that’s increased even more with Frenzied Guard. I’ve found Balmung the most cumbersome of the four swords and while it’s certainly not the worst, I think Durendal clearly is, despite it having a good ult, its definitely not reaching the level of Solais and imo can be easily interchanged with Cailburn. Editing after Amalgam complaints: The Lightning Incantation one shots Amalgams. They’re absolutely not a problem in this map.

[@kingkobra4910]

The charged attacks can be charged from normal gun kills

[@funEman]

he-LO THERE FELLO ZOMBIE SLAYERS

[@jasonblundelldobebussing]

How? I don't know, man. You tell me

[@straightuprat696]

I do wish they wrote new quotes for basic kill dialogue, because you do notice the line reuse which is unfortunate

[@straightuprat696]

Not even just kill I think perk weapon paping and much more also just have other lines from Terminus and liberty falls

[@straightuprat696]

Also looking back, it’s crazy how this maps enemy pool makes significantly more sense in terminus than it does here. The whole evolution chain idea is fantastic, and something they’re taking from the catalysts idea. If the Doppleghast was on Terminus instead of manglers, the maps identity with twisted experiments would’ve hit harder with how the zombies can snowball into tougher and tougher enemies to kill which end up more twisted in every form. That’s crazy missed potential and too coincidental to have me think it was a genuine not thought of idea. I really think they wanted to have the Doppleghasts in Terminus to fill out enemy types but didn’t have a planned new enemy for Citadelle, so instead of moving the manglers there, they held off on introducing the DG’s instead. Or they simply couldn’t implement how they wanted to in time. Because this enemy design being in Citadel feels waaaay to obvious it should’ve been the terminus enemy roster design

[@Komani115]

This could partially be due to the VA strike, but honestly, they seem more concerned with having 5 out of map characters talk rather than have the "crew" have meaningful/good dialogue.

[@Plorpusbazinga]

Can you review iw again

[@funEman]

OK BUT WHY DID THEY JUST NOT INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT DR JANSEN??

[@lazwardazure716]

We're either going to be getting her in map 4 to fix everything or die in some random ahhhh basement in Urzikstan take your pick

[@Asmodouz]

Bo1 and Bo2 maps definitely had more characters than just the 4 main cast talking on the map. Brock and Gary, Gersch, Samantha and Maxis, Maxis and Richthofen, hell, we had a whole map with actors and the Easter egg was narrated by ultimas who we weren’t even playing…

[@RikenzuPlays]

I gotta know, what is every KZbin player doing in Zombies that makes the Vermin floating legless worms? I've not seen a Z-Tuber upload a video where the Vermin look normal, since the start of S01

[@DevilsShoesOnSon]

It's called arachnophobia mode it's a setting you can turn on, but I disagree with it's inclusion in what is a more horrific game mode, it'd be like playing a horror game and removing all the monsters so dumb

[@darkzero7969]

Was this reuploaded?

[@Komani115]

I completely disagree with your point that you "can't" bring back the ultimus crew, and also your singling out of the homosexuality as something that is off limits to make jokes about. The entire point of the ultimus crew, as you pointed out, was to be stereotypes. What line do you draw of what is too offensive? A white guy doing a stereotypical japanese voice? A man imitating a "drunk russian" stereotype? I just fundamentally disagree with that point. Your point about the voice acting of Weaver's VA, though is something that I have thought for a while. I also agree with your point about how it was nice to have 4 main characters that were the actual focus of the story in BO3. I just hate the comms, and it literally brings down the quality of every map that they release in BO6. Why does Peck have to react to stuff on Terminus? My character is THERE... Why does Ravenov have to say the same stuff at round 3 every game? Why does Blanchard have to congratulate me for getting a kill on a spider? Just completely unnecessary and dumb.

[@Stanley557]

@Komani115 i totally understand but maybe I didn't word it right. I'm not advocating for them to not be stereotypical. I should've phrased my point that they won't do that anymore and maps like Alpha Omega and Classified are examples as to how they've been changed. And as for the VAs I agree. It's a shame they won't focus on the playable characters as much

[@Komani115]

@@Stanley557 Yea that's true, I was so excited in BO4 for them to come back but their lines just weren't really that great, and a far fall in quality from BO1 in the name of them being more "safe". It was still cool to have them back, but it was quite apparent that they weren't as good.

[@thekorborium115]

The intel in this map is definitely an upgrade from the "nothingburger" lore of Liberty Falls and what was in Terminus. HOWEVER!! The blog's lore was nowhere in the game itself, and I THINK THEY GOTTA STOP DOING THAT! Terminus' blog post did the same thing! I BEG they stop doing this. It's driving me crazy! I think one of my biggest concerns in the plot right now is I think the story is forgetting it's part of the Dark Aether storyline? We've been focusing a lot on Chaos (which is fine), but as a result we're not REALLY getting much of a sequel to Cold War like we thought we would. I slightly disagree with your take with Gene Farber's Weaver. I think he's doing a good job but I will admit there are rough line reads, but I feel this way for all four of the main characters. I think there's a director (haha) issue. I definitely love the delivery on "He's your... he's your what...?" And obviously I agree with you when it comes to the AI garbage. Julie Nathanson is a legend, and watching this series get ruined by AI is - as you said - depressing. It's demotivating, and I dread the day we hear new voices for Weaver, Carver, Maya, even Richtofen. It's got me questioning whether I want to even engage with this series anymore... (Also I LOVE the boss fight. I'd say a lot more, BUT I apolog for the long message. Great video my guy!!)

[@DanCasey810]

Hi Stanley! It's pronounced Kr-A-ft...not Croft. Sorry had to get that off my chest! 😅 Enjoyed the video though! 👍

[@Killerfin100]

I really hope the AI stuff gets sorted because if all the characters sound different in the next map it will be really off-putting.

[@bockmeow]

I'd probably stop playing at that point. I love BO6 zombies but what kind of man am I if I don't stand by my morals?

[@coytheboyy]

It sorta sucks that the strongest original performance in Bo6 Zombies right now is from the character with the least development (Carver) also can’t listen to Weaver the same thanks

[@TotallyNotDuggy]

He He He… Moi

[@FemboyAsh.]

Citadelle Des Moines... Iowa (Im just poking fun im sorry lol)

[@golemofwill4728]

I just like swing sword.

[@Stanley557]

@@golemofwill4728 truth

[@stubby7293]

Citadelle deez nutz

[@mainestreamsYT]

citadel demoy

[@Hemoclysm]

Kroft

[@pillowking1500]

ai de calling card 🔥

[@Stanley557]

@@pillowking1500 what

[@pillowking1500]

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[@pillowking1500]

@@Stanley557 idk great vid by the way

[@aquaimperative5618]

I could be missing an inside joke, but you are pronouncing Citadelle des Morts very wrong. The morts is pronounced like more, not moy

[@Stanley557]

@@aquaimperative5618 I'm just an idiot who said it wrong in the beginning of the recording and stuck with it till the end

[@Nezovera]

69 viewer in 49 seconds? Bro fell off 💀

[@ilovesteakandfries]

ultimis richtofen was gay?

[@Pootsworthy]

Treyarch: makes a fun zombies game Activision: *Abso-fucking-lutely not*

[@muscatiii0v]

listening to you mispronounce des morts is painful

[@luvvmeshawty]

Citadelle de moy 🙂

[@joshuashawYT]

23:00 I don't think it was me you talked to about this but I'm going to pretend we totally had an in-depth and intellectual conversation about this lol. Great video though as always Stanley! I'm a fan of where the BO6 story is headed, my theory as of now is that the Sentinel Artifact we're looking for is tied to the Roman deity Janus.