Disc Mulcher or Drum Mulcher -Which is better for forestry work and land clearing

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Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek

Stanley "Dirt Monkey" Genadek

5 жыл бұрын

Whats better a disc mulcher or drum mulcher for land clearing and Forestry work. Lets look at both and go over the good and bad of each. In this video we focus ont the disc mulcher from quick attach. In an upcoming video its all about the drum mulcher.
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@davidskinner3963
@davidskinner3963 3 жыл бұрын
This is a pretty amazing machine. I just finished renting a Bobcat drum mulcher on a Kubota SVL2 95 for two weeks. I cleared about 8 acres of heavy brush (1 to 6in with multi-trunk trees. 5 to 7 trunks) and then cut about 5 miles of trails. Most of the trails were double width (12 feet) . The Kubota broke down the last day of each week but I was running it 12 hours a day. Never could have done this work with any other method i.e. by hand or excavator or bulldozer. I was moving fast and thought that was probably the reason the mulch was so large. After watching several videos now, I realize the teeth were quite dull. Wound it with hi-tensil wire a few times. What a bear the first time until I found that a cutting torch pops that wire like corn. The debris left behind will be a couple of years rotting down since it is so big. I plan to rent it again next year to help the rot (I'll ask for new teeth before I start) and widen the single width trails. Also, I plan on buying the Lane Shark brush hog for the loader on my tractor. This will allow me to "trim" the overhanging branches and move into fresh areas with my tractor. This stuff is so much fun! I need a drone now to map my trails and provide an aerial view of the farm. This video was really quite well done regardless of what some have said (I read every comment below) Thank you. I am off now to find the drum video. Thanks Stan! This is not easy and you do it well!
@samrochin6749
@samrochin6749 2 жыл бұрын
What did that cost to rent for 2 weeks, I understand it was a year ago so prices have changed. Just curious.
@themoonsbluelight
@themoonsbluelight Жыл бұрын
any updates?
@rockpeterson5055
@rockpeterson5055 5 жыл бұрын
I love seeing the failure points on equipment. The companies are always happy to show you just how much something can do, but knowing limits helps you make better decisions, and when you know just what something can't do, you're less likely to try it and screw up. (unless it seems like it might be fun anyway)
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching Rock and glad the videos are helpful!
@lydaelizabethshults3495
@lydaelizabethshults3495 2 жыл бұрын
Why don't they make the disc go in reverse also to dislodge stuck material?
@chrissanford8467
@chrissanford8467 2 жыл бұрын
@@lydaelizabethshults3495 That log was sucked in and jammed so tight reversing the motor would not have worked - just wouldn't generate enough torque. Also trying could potentially damage it and/or a hose.
@donohoe71
@donohoe71 4 жыл бұрын
Good interview, the engineer guy was obviously nervous but he came out of himself with your help. At first I thought he was going to be difficult but you got him through. That is one serious piece of kit!
@billymoore3500
@billymoore3500 5 жыл бұрын
I work on a turnpike and we use the drum style mulcher on the slopes behind the guardrails , the disc style would throw too much debris to use close to traffic , even with the drum you have to keep an eye out and watch what you are doing . You have to keep a good leaf blower or air compressor handy to keep the air filters and radiator and hydraulic cooler blower out , in dry situations you may have to stop every hour or so the blow everything out to keep your machine running cool . Also keep the vent areas for the hydraulic and fuel clean , as they cool they will pull fines in and clog your filters . I have run both and you defiantly want to make sure your machine will handle the mulchers . Use a machine you are familiar with , running these mulchers is not the time to learn new controls , if you run joy stick joy stick stay with that type of machine if you run one with the foot controls and joy stick then find a machine like that . I have run both but prefer the joysticks , I have more control with this type of machine , I can run one with foot controls but it takes me an hour or so to get used to the weight of the grinder and feel of the machine before settle in and can make good time with it .
@Houseworksaws
@Houseworksaws 5 жыл бұрын
Drum makes less of a mess in the initial knock down then can leave perfect rows that look like a carpet when backing out of a site ... customers only think of the finished product. Not how cool it looked doing it lol
@ceisarsrepair7958
@ceisarsrepair7958 Жыл бұрын
Would've Loved to have this machine during the Seattle protests!!! 😎👍
@marshallcollins8634
@marshallcollins8634 Жыл бұрын
@ceisers repaid.yes ah Nc I wish I would of had another one right beside you👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@OnSiteTrav
@OnSiteTrav 5 жыл бұрын
Disks are sweet low operating cost, throw material like a crazy. Cover a lot of ground per hour though. We run both types, each has its place. Drums are excellent around structures, and for large material. Great vid!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
@shelbyswarey4741
@shelbyswarey4741 4 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@timberlinetactical
@timberlinetactical 2 жыл бұрын
Funny to see you here man!
@OnSiteTrav
@OnSiteTrav 2 жыл бұрын
@@timberlinetactical Yeah Stan and I did some mulching lol
@justanotheridiotredneck
@justanotheridiotredneck 5 жыл бұрын
Disc mulches are more efficient so far as area cleared/time. The cost of that is how far it slings the mulch. I've slung stuff 50+ yards with a disc. It doesn't do that all the time, but it happens. Drum mulches are still very efficient, but area cleared/time is not on par with disc mulches... but they don't sling mulch like the discs do. If you're within 100 yards of something you don't want mulch to hit, you gotta go drum. If slinging is not an issue... disc.
@blessed7fold
@blessed7fold 4 жыл бұрын
Stanley you did a bang up job of interviewing this guy. You asked great questions and I appreciate your humility in the way you asked the questions because I know you already knew all this stuff personally.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you !!
@colemxer
@colemxer 2 жыл бұрын
I have my own Forestry mulching business and I use a kubota svl97-2 with a fae DCR drum with knives. I’m able to control pretty well how far and where all my mulch goes with that set up. You face a new challenge everyday doing forestry work and you will have cost that you would never plan for.
@logman6656
@logman6656 3 жыл бұрын
You definitely put to the test what I love about your chanel OK I'm from uk and do this for a living information from you is priceless
@Kushert
@Kushert 5 жыл бұрын
I have a quick attach tiller, grapples and concrete breaker for my TX 1000 toro dingo and they make really good attachments. I'm really satisfied.
@PCGonline
@PCGonline 5 жыл бұрын
damn it! stanely out here reading my mind on stuff i was looking into a few days ago
@pags5zonda623
@pags5zonda623 5 жыл бұрын
Watching you hook up to the cutter while its on the trailer had to rewind a couple times because that was the fastest aiming and picking I've ever seen. Then I noticed the video cut almost had me fooled.
@tyclark8162
@tyclark8162 4 жыл бұрын
I have dreamed of a ASV RT120F as I've been around Bobcats of my own n experience. I almost pulled the trigger on one new, but my physical abilities have changed with age. Anyone that gets into this business or just general dirt work. You best be very mechanical n welder n understand how machines work. I would love to get into this, but my age n abilities throw up red flags. Hidden cables n wire n steel in the woods n bush can caus thousands along with stress of the job.
@macnudd
@macnudd 4 жыл бұрын
Plan C, chainsaw the jamed log out. I once got a chunk of firewood stuck in about a 50 ton log splitter, I had to use a chainsaw to get it out.
@Bhilderbrand
@Bhilderbrand 5 жыл бұрын
I ran a barko 930 for a long time. The drum mulcher is my preference never jammed it up. And forced some pretty big material 30+ inches through it. But it definitely did not like barbed wire
@scotthofner9447
@scotthofner9447 5 жыл бұрын
Also, there are alot of comments about how it would be better to have a reverse to clear a jammed or bound cutting head. The hydraulic motors that the mulching heads have (disc or drum) do not have enough torque to free the head. If the object was tough enough to stop the head from spinning in the first place (while the cutting head was at speed) then manually clearing whatever stop it is the only way to get it spinning again. The hydraulics on the big dedicated machines, i.e. not skid steers, are more robust, but I believe the same applies for them as well.
@lazerbeedotcom2630
@lazerbeedotcom2630 5 жыл бұрын
Scott Hofner what about an extension cylinder mounted near the edge that when extended would engage divots cut into the wheel perimeter pushing it backward.
@nschroeder21
@nschroeder21 5 жыл бұрын
I've used drum mulchers from fecon for several years. Never had a complaint. The only time I jammed them was when you find old cable left in the woods. Other times it clogs you can tilt the head forward, press the drum into the ground, and reverse until it un jams. I wouldn't ever run on anything smaller then a 90hp machine. Also, he's correct when it comes to keeping machines cleaned out. Fires are not uncommon with unkept forestry equipment.
@bbarker5766
@bbarker5766 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen one of the disc mulcher work in person but the drum attachment I saw was freaking amazingly vicious with what it could do!!
@sanityfade
@sanityfade Жыл бұрын
A disc is much more amazing and scary. Entire trees up to 6 inches or so are sucked in and explode. Larger trees can be mulched with the bottom of the disc in a few seconds. Everything happens very quickly. A disc is 2 to 3 times faster at clearing area than a drum. The drum doesn't throw as far and makes much finer mulch.
@y2kxj
@y2kxj 5 жыл бұрын
I just love the sound it makes eating trees.
@davidgrason161
@davidgrason161 3 жыл бұрын
"I've got plan C but I don't want it on film." THAT was funny! I'm really impressed with that machine. Great informative video.
@MAGAMAN
@MAGAMAN 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not impressed at all. While it was working it was great, but the way everything to a standstill when it jammed makes it obvious this is a terrible design. It looks like there is no way to reverse the spin of the disk and no way to easily remove the cage around the blade. I can think of several ways this could be made so that it is easy to clear jams by only removing a couple bolts from the side that has a jam.
@chrissanford8467
@chrissanford8467 2 жыл бұрын
I totally disagree. That is one standout machine, works fast, doesn't bog easily and built like a tank - and it has to be. As soon as you start attaching the side skirts with bolts (instead of welds) with the forces generated those bolts will work loose and/or shear and you'll have loose sides flapping in the wind and a potentially bigger and much more dangerous mess. Sure the machine found it's limit with this log but the operator even said - it was the worst jam he's ever seen so obviously this is a one-off not every day event. However, it was operator error/over confidence that caused it. If he'd approached that big log at more of an angle it wouldn't have got sucked in all at once.
@greghelton5509
@greghelton5509 2 ай бұрын
I loved that as well.
@ScottTheMarine
@ScottTheMarine 5 жыл бұрын
The music at the beginning was the absolute best!! 🤣
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks !
@trailsmadeeasy
@trailsmadeeasy 2 жыл бұрын
One day I'll have that set up. Thanks for the video.
@StandingGoatsRescue
@StandingGoatsRescue 2 жыл бұрын
Very awesome piece of equipment, I definitely want one!! Lol That thing is definitely a beast! One day I’ll get my hands on one….and my troubles will be over in regards to cutting the road across our wooded property. Thank you for sharing this with us, very educational!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Go get em 👊
@mikewasko4964
@mikewasko4964 4 жыл бұрын
Dam , I was leaning towards a drum but after watching this and the kind of stuff on my property I need to go thru ,this will work alot better
@mikewasko4964
@mikewasko4964 4 жыл бұрын
@Jeff Schwab thanks ..just from watching the vidio this disc would work best on my property. I dont have a bunch of bigger trees that I need to take down and not much brush ,its mostly 4-6 inch diameter trees .mostly maple and black oak ,they grow faster than weeds it seems like lol .. the disc would get the job done quickly I think but I also need to consider were I'm going from there and future projects but thanks for the video and reply ,channels like your takes alot of the guess workcand trial and error out of big purchases
@joelground7557
@joelground7557 5 жыл бұрын
That’s attachment looks really awesome! But I was afraid of that exact scenario. We have a Bradco ground shark and love it. But it utilizes blades instead of carbide teeth on the cutting edge. I do believe that requires more hydraulic horsepower to run the attachment efficiently but it does not have any kind of plugging issues. It just mulches on the bottom of the disc and doesn’t let anything pass over top and on larger logs like that you just let the carbide teeth on the bottom do the work. Now I’m not saying I don’t like quick attach products because we have several attachment from them and couldn’t be any happier with their build quality and strength. So great job guys! Y’all made me really re-think our purchase of the ground shark!
@cabilgibbs
@cabilgibbs 5 жыл бұрын
Props for showing the Malfuction though.!
@stevensargent6222
@stevensargent6222 4 жыл бұрын
Plan C: is a chain saw and chunk it out, by cutting length wise until you get clearance to start the disk back up.
@Mike-mw8wi
@Mike-mw8wi 5 жыл бұрын
To everyone asking about reverse. They could reverse the hydraulic flow from the machine but it wouldn't do anything. In every brush cutter I have seen there is a one way bypass valve between the hoses going from the cutter to the machine. This bypass valve prevents an operator from reversing the flow and damaging the hydraulic motor on the cutter. To reverse the flow you would have to swap the hoses going to the machine. Either swap the quick disconnects or swap the hose ends at the cutter motor. Some brush cutters have a two sided blade and during normal operation only one side of the blade gets used. To use the other side you have to reverse the flow by swapping the hoses. Though keep in mind that not all hydraulic motors are made to run both ways. I suspect this forestry cutter may be one of them. It's very likely reverse wouldn't work in this situation anyways.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input Mike and thanks for watching
@daven1151
@daven1151 4 жыл бұрын
Dfm mulcher can be put in reverse to dislodge material.
@carlosarango7210
@carlosarango7210 4 жыл бұрын
Reverse will not work either cause there's no inertia and the power of the hydraulic motor is just too little.
@SitsinShadow
@SitsinShadow 4 жыл бұрын
@@carlosarango7210 My fecon on My Racyo C87 reverses. It can be handy from time to time, but it's limited. If you jam it, which is very rare, it's easier to set it down on the ground, and back up, which reverse rotates the drum and clears it 99% of the time. I prefer drums over disc for this reason.
@smctree
@smctree 3 жыл бұрын
This is an insider’s channel. Good stuff!
@thomasritter3159
@thomasritter3159 4 жыл бұрын
We used the drum Mulcher on the end of 70 feet of Boom on excavators mounted on pontoons. We could clear a mile a day of 75 foot right away per day.
@desertlogger2062
@desertlogger2062 5 жыл бұрын
11:25 that's what I'm talking about showing the real result of what happens in the real world 🤗🤗🤗 good video brotha man.
@scotthofner9447
@scotthofner9447 5 жыл бұрын
I use a Diamond Forestry head on my skid steer. It has advantages and disadvantages. The three main disadvantages is the size of the shredded material is slightly larger than most drums, it throws material much further than most drums and it does not like to cut material longer then 5' perpendicular to travel path. However, to two huge advantages are it is much faster then most drums and cost/life cycle of the teeth is by far better. I keep the hardwood chute on mine to prevent me from accidently sucking in material too large to chew up.
@keithschultz9406
@keithschultz9406 5 жыл бұрын
I have diamond forestry head disc on my kubota 90svl2 ... amazing forestry head .. very fast ... I try not to much logs .. for they will jam disc ... use for chipping branches only and leave wood for firewood .
@AvgJoe0007
@AvgJoe0007 4 жыл бұрын
You can use a chain binder off your trailer to put some torque-crank on the disk to unjam it. Works great. Usually.
@chrissanford8467
@chrissanford8467 2 жыл бұрын
10 ton come-along attached to a big tree & just crank till it dislodges.
@jordankidd587
@jordankidd587 4 жыл бұрын
I have been running a CAT 299d with a drum mulcher 10+ hours a day for the last 2 months removing invasives in southern Illinois. I have it say it is a lot of fun, but it is very challenging being that there are so many things to pay attention to. I havent used one of those disk heads but they look effective. The drum head will get jammed up every once in a while but it always takes less than 2 minutes to get running again, unless you find a steel cable 😂
@bbtjtabor
@bbtjtabor 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I found the cable the loggers left behind. SMH
@orathomas6230
@orathomas6230 2 жыл бұрын
Looks very interesting and very dangerous you definitely have to have some experience running a skid loader in general report trying this
@donaldnaymon3270
@donaldnaymon3270 4 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you for sharing and tips
@thebreadofcorn438
@thebreadofcorn438 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't trade my disk mulcher for anything, its awesome! Just like everything else, you do run into problems though & there is a steep learning curve but once you get it, it clicks & you only get better the more you do! I'm able to fell trees a lot closer to the ground & faster than a drum, most trees 10" & smaller will get pulled in & explode as long as you keep the head speed up. I have had a jam similar to that when back-grinding a pile of about 5 tress I had fell earlier, it was 100% operator error. Not enough head speed & not paying attention to what I was allowing on top of the blade, took about 45 minutes to removed a plug of wet hardwood that wrapped all the away around the blade against the shroud. I had to place one perimeter tooth against a tree at a time, pushing forward straight with both tracks rotating the blade backwards 6" at a time until the plug no longer moved. I then had to place a choker around the plug & pull it out the rest of the way. This does not happen often & the times it has happened has decreased significantly as I become more experienced.
@lydaelizabethshults3495
@lydaelizabethshults3495 2 жыл бұрын
Why not engineer the disc to operate backwards as well so as to dislodge the material?
@Guardianautoservices
@Guardianautoservices 2 жыл бұрын
What is a start up setup to get into the industry? Im wanting to expand my business and looking at this very heavily. Mainly not trying to start out 100k in debt
@Morganexvavation
@Morganexvavation 2 жыл бұрын
@@Guardianautoservices from scratch, $73k for new kubota 97. 2018 f350 dually $65k. $10k for gooseneck trailer. $15-25k for mulching head. Obviously, you can buy used and cheaper things, but I’m $73k,$65k, $10k, and $16k in personally.
@sanityfade
@sanityfade Жыл бұрын
​@Lyda Elizabeth Shults it's the momentum that makes the disc work. Once it's stopped you have very little power. So even if you plumbed it backwards it wouldn't have the power to back a plug out. Most of the time, the disc stops it isn't jammed up. You just backmout and build speed again. To jam the disc you have to be pushing pretty hard into material.
@stanhutchins4365
@stanhutchins4365 7 ай бұрын
I just purchased a Cat 299 D2, will it handle the disc?
@not_jc_yt3747
@not_jc_yt3747 5 жыл бұрын
Bro I love your videos keep it up btw your hilarious 😂 again I love your vids 👌 Edit: very helpful 😂 and I myself was wanting to look into forestry
@MCLEO983
@MCLEO983 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing the jam
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
👍
@davidhoover8877
@davidhoover8877 5 жыл бұрын
Stan, do you know why you get hundreds of thousands of views? CUZ YOU ARE A BAD ASS AND SHOW US ALL WHAT WE WANT TO SEE. We know we are getting the truth about these products not just videos from the manufacturer. They would never show a tree getting stuck. Thanks for all your videos and books. David Hoover Chattanooga, TN.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you David for the comments and I appreciate you watching !
@whipznchainz6063
@whipznchainz6063 2 жыл бұрын
Ran several but my favorite was a Fecon head mounted on a Volvo 160 excavator. Clear house lots in a hurry
@sonsofliberty3081
@sonsofliberty3081 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very good at running machinery, I'd like to borrow that whole setup for about 4 weeks. I need to make more pasture out of woods
@scooter1391
@scooter1391 3 жыл бұрын
I've done that but learned not to brake the tree off chain to the tree close to the cutter and then back up works great
@drizzle335
@drizzle335 3 жыл бұрын
I also think approach angle makes a difference also for jams if you ran over that log towards the driver side it’s less likely to bind up
@KirtH27
@KirtH27 3 жыл бұрын
Your getting those shooting lanes opened up nicely on the deer hunting property
@jenky1044
@jenky1044 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome show. (this like a bush hogs big brother). Those square teeth on the cutter are Quadco teeth, like they use on a Feller Buncher. (the teeth can be taken out and turned to reveal another sharp side...3 times). Also when he jammed that cutter wheel with that much inertia to a dead stop. I would think he'd need almost as much inertia or pressure to free it.? I'm just guessing.
@phillipschwarz66
@phillipschwarz66 5 жыл бұрын
4 Land's Sake LLC Gower Missouri Phillip Schwarz Owner Operator I own both the Diamond Mowers 60" forestry mulcher and 84" brush cutter. Started on a 2017 333G Deere with poor results due to lack of hydraulic capabilities and over temp issues. Deere purchased the unit back at 400hrs due to 60k in warranty work and months worth of my lost productivity while unit was in the shop repeatedly. Purchased a new 2018 ASV RT120 forestry. Night and day difference in the two carriers. 250 hrs and loving the power and smooth ride. Deere has more lift capacity but willing to trade for the hydraulic horsepower of the RT120F. Diamond Mowers has done well with any issues and has exceeded my expectations as an manufacture. Never had a jam that wouldnt clear by working it out agianst another standing tree with the diamond product. Drum or disc will be a long debate for years to come. Both have a place, so buy both! Love the channel Dirt Monkey. Welcome to the forestry mulching world! God Bless, Phillip Schwarz 816 724 3954
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Really appreciate it Phillip. thank you !
@davidchristie3747
@davidchristie3747 5 жыл бұрын
Phillip was wondering how much do you charge to clear 1 acre wooded lot?
@wadewilson5296
@wadewilson5296 5 жыл бұрын
What is the asv rt120's msrp?
@shanenelms9740
@shanenelms9740 5 жыл бұрын
333g with high flow of 41.1 gallons per min is no slouch and better than all the machines on the market other than ASV with 45 gallons per min
@jsalinas118
@jsalinas118 4 жыл бұрын
I don't do any forestry but that was very informative.
@mightymoeexcavating754
@mightymoeexcavating754 5 жыл бұрын
Love it, demo till fail!! Thanks for sharing
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching !
@paganriverview
@paganriverview 2 жыл бұрын
Question: what would you use to clear a thick bamboo stand to ground as first step to eradication and control?
@tommyduran6785
@tommyduran6785 3 жыл бұрын
Good morning sir, just became a new SUBCRIBER .I think the wheel disc is awsome and the 60 acres im cleaning up right now i sure could use one , Well T'S&P'S TO YOU AND YOUR CREW .Be careful and stay safe
@eriklarsen7358
@eriklarsen7358 5 жыл бұрын
They all jam up eventually. Doesnt matter if it is a disk or drum. I run a Prentice 2670 with a Fecon head and a Rayco T275. Got to keep the cutter speed up and try not to "suck" up chunks of large wood.
@albertotrejo7181
@albertotrejo7181 5 жыл бұрын
Plan A could work with a much bigger tree. A lot thicker. Done it before with my mulcher! 👍 Plan A has never let me down. Awesome vid!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Alberto !
@sonicx1249
@sonicx1249 5 жыл бұрын
one thing that has not been mention is the recovery time that drum or disk need to take the load off the engine and have the necessary rpm too work effectancy as well as working system pressures so the machine is not dumping over pressure relief thus adding heat to the hyds
@Donald_Shaw
@Donald_Shaw 5 жыл бұрын
A;ways interesting videos... Great job, Stan.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Don!
@cmusic52
@cmusic52 5 жыл бұрын
U started out zoomed in and I'm like freaking out and flinching cause I know u don't wanna be anywhere near that thing when it's running unless ur in a tank, cause a 200lb log flying at u at 200mph is scary as hell
@chrisfails8967
@chrisfails8967 3 жыл бұрын
We run diamond brand on a high flow new holland track skid. Where you actually get into trouble is in cutting around 3 to 4 inch trees. You will loose rpm and jam a tree in the cutter. Lots of fun backen er out. Find a really big tree
@TomJones-zm3kz
@TomJones-zm3kz 5 жыл бұрын
The disc mulchers are affordable but only good for small scrub. They jam constantly and the shaft bends very easily and wrecks the whole machine. The drum mulcher are expensive to buy and maintain but do a good job.
@JoeMalovich
@JoeMalovich 5 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of bradco groundshark extreme mulchers with a big disc and short stout swinging knives in the perimeter. Seems less likely to jam and bend an axle. Also why don't they use a different type of bearing that doesn't rely on shaft diameter, like a slew ring bearing. Excavators don't use a single fat shaft.
@wpog8453
@wpog8453 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Malovich because of the torque that is applied in the shaft in a cutting situation.
@galehess6676
@galehess6676 5 жыл бұрын
maybe a more expensive version lasts better
@sanityfade
@sanityfade Жыл бұрын
New disc mulchers are very stout and mine will easily eat a 14 inch thick tree quickly. Larger would take a bit more time. As far as cheap it was maybe 10 grand cheaper than a drum. It was 28 thousand for a vail disc mulcher.
@sanityfade
@sanityfade Жыл бұрын
​@@wpog8453 because people hit things with the disc. Not that their life isn't a rough one. The mulching disc on my vail is 1100 pounds.
@drakestevens4456
@drakestevens4456 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any videos on tools to help maintain our heavy equip. Tools like the best cordless grease gun, power washers, jacks etc. Tools that will help keep equipment operating top notch and last longer on the go at the job site. Or make emergency repairs alot easier, like mobile crimp for repairing hydraulics hoses in the field when no place is open to get a new hose. Really enjoy the videos, always good to see ways to work smarter not harder and all around more efficient.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Great suggestion Drake, thanks for viewing !
@Bhilderbrand
@Bhilderbrand 5 жыл бұрын
A brown tree cutter is also a great forestry implement.
@josephnicholas9116
@josephnicholas9116 4 жыл бұрын
White ones are better and they're also legal
@tommartin3016
@tommartin3016 4 жыл бұрын
Thats a Beast of a machine!! Minus the beast part 😂
@carlbryan8289
@carlbryan8289 2 жыл бұрын
Very good info, thanks.
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Happy to help 😁
@frickinda
@frickinda 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome info sir thank You
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome Alfred!
@saltybuckeye
@saltybuckeye Жыл бұрын
used to operate an takeuchi and that was a drifting power sliding beast
@TheColinputer
@TheColinputer 5 жыл бұрын
Couple of things come to mind. Tombstone from Battlebots. And the ride on mower from hell they made on Mythbusters which snapped the shaft and shot the blade off
@interestinoldschool8080
@interestinoldschool8080 4 жыл бұрын
So, was there some pre-load on that disc when you guys got it freed?
@Extrmach
@Extrmach 5 жыл бұрын
Quick Attach make some great equipment for Construction. We have buckets, forks, sweepers, breakers for JD skidsteer.
@jimdiet8534
@jimdiet8534 5 жыл бұрын
Hydraulic HP = (PSIxGPM)/1714 An example (3000 PSI x 13.3 GPM)/1714= 23.28 HP
@Tman0517
@Tman0517 5 жыл бұрын
I do like how it ate the little trees
@TheLawnGuardian
@TheLawnGuardian 5 жыл бұрын
That thing is wild.
@porscha901
@porscha901 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant intro
@TheNeonGamer2015
@TheNeonGamer2015 3 жыл бұрын
how about an attachment for the attachment itself that can help with a reverse flow of hydrohalic pressure. Maybe like a reserve bank attachments for the gallons x minute. Could adding one, be capable, to build without compromising the flexing of any metal and longevity of the all the machinery put together.. ?
@christopherrodmell1694
@christopherrodmell1694 4 жыл бұрын
I also thought it was possible for one of those to jam up or break while attempting to do a tree
@mikeehrmantraut6840
@mikeehrmantraut6840 5 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for the weath of knowledge he mentioned, look no further. I have been in the forestry industry for over 18 years. Myself and my fellow crew of orcs didn't have enough fuel to feed the fires... We cut down countless trees in Fangorn forest to meet the demands of the forge. This video shows a lot of good information, but fails to warn you of the trees coming alive and destroying Isengard. 0/10 No Treebeard
@lashlarue7924
@lashlarue7924 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂👍
@joelsmith2974
@joelsmith2974 5 жыл бұрын
Check out the Rayco C100 and C200, nothing even comes close to these machines. I work for Asplundh Tree Experts and these are our best units with reliability and production!
@americanleisurepools6431
@americanleisurepools6431 5 жыл бұрын
Will that chop up a Bigfoot?
@furiousgeorge6304
@furiousgeorge6304 5 жыл бұрын
chain on the side of the wheel not the front. instead of turning you go straight back to free it.
@georgebeasley6264
@georgebeasley6264 5 жыл бұрын
if you could relieve pressure on hydraulic lines it would help in moving disk-disk may not move under pressure on lines
@maranathamark
@maranathamark 4 жыл бұрын
Relieve pressure or for future designs, have a reverse rotation option for just such situations.
@grnsouth1204
@grnsouth1204 2 жыл бұрын
Just need a manual bypass valve that connect the feed and return. That's probably why he couldn't get it out with the chain and tree, nowhere for the fluid to go in reverse.
@hawkeye8190
@hawkeye8190 5 жыл бұрын
That was my plan as well! Chainsaw will fix it
@brucejohnson4124
@brucejohnson4124 2 жыл бұрын
I have this disc mulcher and have found it dose 4 " trees OK but not great and it dose get jammed pretty often. Took me an hour on the worst one. I wish now I would have gotten the drum mulcher, but the grass is always greener right?
@brushlife9426
@brushlife9426 5 жыл бұрын
Drum style mulcher is a lot easier to get unjammed .seeing the disc mulcher and comparing it to my drum mulcher it seems like the disc mulcher might have more of jamming issues not sure but it kind of seems like it would
@erichill1230
@erichill1230 5 жыл бұрын
I like all of your video and do you come to Texas sometime
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Eric, and maybe
@bryanmorgan6109
@bryanmorgan6109 3 жыл бұрын
Just put 30 hrs on a ss extreme mulcher. Love it and hate it .
@BigBear-qr4zn
@BigBear-qr4zn 5 жыл бұрын
I just gave this a name THE MANGLER that is one vicious BEAST. Probably need something to release the pressure. I don't know but it's just a guess lol.
@peterwelsh6975
@peterwelsh6975 5 жыл бұрын
That what i was thinking, as a hydraulic mechanic they just need to crack a line (loosen fitting will never get the quick releases off under pressure like that) then they can turn blade backwards. "Mechanics: because someone has to make it work after engineers get done with it"
@Joe.M
@Joe.M 5 жыл бұрын
So... what did you do to free it up? Chainsaw?
@RedDFilm
@RedDFilm 3 жыл бұрын
I am unable to find your follow up video?
@wickedmainah950
@wickedmainah950 3 жыл бұрын
Id love to use one on my land...make quick work of it
@tim-4217
@tim-4217 3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking to convert shrub sage brush south texas land to pasture... is there preferred mulching skid steer attachment recommendation that produce a mulch that will break down better than shredding?
@lifeofluke8620
@lifeofluke8620 4 жыл бұрын
Are you Richard Rawlings little brother? Lol. Great vid!
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 4 жыл бұрын
No, lol but thanks !
@MowBeta
@MowBeta 4 жыл бұрын
I've only used a drum mulcher and loved the work it did, but would like to try the disc type if I were out in the sticks away from spectators and needed to do a large area in a shorter period of time.
@cmusic52
@cmusic52 5 жыл бұрын
I dunno if the jam can even be blamed on the unit... that's just a HUGE log to be chipped that way, if it was the bottom you were shredding it with, it'd probly be fine... but not sideways when its that much wider then the teeth....
@stevennihipali3607
@stevennihipali3607 2 жыл бұрын
I wanna start my own landscaping business... in my 40's. Health wise,I Cosby think of anything better. Being out there and just cutting grass/ edging is relaxing anyway
@Dirtmonkey
@Dirtmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
It really is sometimes 👍
@stuartluig2911
@stuartluig2911 5 жыл бұрын
If u cut it out with a chainsaw, wouldnt it still have pressure in the hoses and start ro spin again when the jam is removed?
@chrissanford8467
@chrissanford8467 2 жыл бұрын
These high flow machines have a third (smaller dia) hydraulic line that removes any back pressure caused by jams into the CTL specifically to avoid damage to the hydraulic motor and/or hoses
@KirkM-dk2ll
@KirkM-dk2ll Жыл бұрын
So drum or disc what is the verdict , what are the pros and cons of each, speed, quality, cost to run how do the do side by side
@doc.christopherthompson324
@doc.christopherthompson324 4 жыл бұрын
The sound of WORKING MACHINES is Good music to The ears. God bless & HA.HA.HA
@y2kxj
@y2kxj 5 жыл бұрын
Sound like those machine could be a candidate for a ansul fire suppression system..
@nathanwoten6236
@nathanwoten6236 Жыл бұрын
You would think there would be a way to spin the disc in reverse for that exact problem even if you had to swith the hydrolic lines or some thimg
@larryehrlich8702
@larryehrlich8702 5 жыл бұрын
Has anyone ever heard the saying "Slow is faster"?
@MowBeta
@MowBeta 4 жыл бұрын
Yup! From the folks over at CAT...
@jordanstone7478
@jordanstone7478 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it up
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