Star Citizen 3.17.2 - Making 400k+/hr with a Vanguard Sentinel [unedited]

[@squidownage7943]

An unscripted hour+ of absolute gold. The narrative of your thoughts and approach was just so helpful - thank for doing this.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! I'm really glad it was helpful for you :)

[@DennisBLee]

Man, thank you for doing this.. it was so educational and really filled in so many gaps in my knowledge with you explaining your thought process throughout. The Sentinel is the first ship I've bought and I'm absolutely in love with it and all that its capable of. After flying a bunch of other ships, I've come to truly appreciate its versatility and power.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much for the lovely feedback! The sentinel really is an amazing ship and it's always my first or second purchase after a wipe. Comically enough I don't have one pledged lol. But I'm really happy this helped you out, it makes all the effort that goes into these videos worthwhile :)

[@MB-hq3rv]

I appreciate the time you took putting this together, and as others have said, I got a lot out of this video. I really enjoyed this laid back little overview. You don't need me to tell you what most star citizen creators are like, so anyway, good stuff and I'm subscribing to the channel

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks so much! I'm glad it was helpful to you, and welcome to the channel! I appreciate the feedback :)

[@creept6841]

Oh my god your channel is aburdly underated. This is some of the best content of star citizen combat i have ever seen

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! You might enjoy hanging out with me on twitch as well if you liked this video - you can check me out at twitch.tv/wingzerotype if you want :) Even if you don't, thanks so much for checking me out and the kind feedback

[@yiyang4445]

As someone just starting out bounty hunting, really appreciate the real-time explanation of what & how you do these stuff!

[@WingZeroType]

Welcome to bounty hunting! It's a lot of fun and you might totally get hooked. Thanks for checking out the video, and feel free to check out my other videos or ask me any other questions you may have!

[@nathanforrester5140]

Great video man thanks for putting it together

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks a bunch mate! Thanks for checking it out

[@Darkfie1d]

My man WingZero, been waiting for a cool video like this since 17.2 went live!

[@WingZeroType]

That's great to hear! Thanks for checking it out :)

[@caseytwill]

This is a masterclass for running VHRTs. Side note, I watched this with my headphones on and never realized just how good the sound is in SC. My gaming laptop speakers don't do it justice.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! And yes the sounds in this game are fantastic! It definitely helps add to the immersion

[@puur3]

I just got the Warden and I really appreciate the video. Thanks subscribed.

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks a lot! I hope you like the ship, vanguards are fantastic!!! In 3.18 I prefer to use a fully laser cannon build due to the ballistic penetration changes on shields, but you could also go fully ballistic if you are a good shot and don't mind reloading every so often.

[@road282productions]

A lot of excellent small tips, thx for doing this. 😊

[@WingZeroType]

cheers! Thanks for checking it out :)

[@UnpluggedCordTTV]

Thanks for the great showcase! I really liked the "narrated duel" type form this video had. You were very clear on the WHY behind your actions, even during the thick of it when taking fire from all the adds. Love the timestamps and sectioning as always. I'd love to see a video like this on using the Eclipse or the Retaliator for doing group ERT/ERTs! I just made 800k in 2hrs doing VHRT + Group VHRT[edit: accidentally said ert when editing paragraph originally] at the same time. (Stop at whatever planet the single VHRT is on and do it before doing group target at that planet. Although this requires a lot more starmaping.) and then when Group was down I switched to Group HRT/HRTs using same method. Focusing main target and leaving seems a lot more profitable than trying to death-orbit a hammerhead for 12 minutes haha. Afterwards I messed around for about an hour with combat beacons. One of the High beacons had 2 Connies, a reclaimer, and a hammerhead. Needless to say my gimbaled ghost was no match and I was unable to protect the target. The critical had an Idris! These MIGHT be okay with fully crewed ballistic redeemer, or a full crew on a retaliator(Need the multiple torps for Idris, eclipse wouldn't be enough) but I'm sure the Sentinel would be able to do Low/Mediums with ease. It's just not as repeatable, stable and thereby profitable as these bounties are.

[@shawnc5188]

A tally will get you, assuming all your tops hit, 195k (at max rep) in 20 minutes, for 1 gERT And 3 ERTS, the mission respawn rate for gERT is slower, so you should do that first, then do the singles. For Idris, I’ve found a four torp opening salvo might be enough. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKebgKmDZ7WSbdU

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much for the kind feedback, I really appreciate it! And yeah I was considering doing one with a Retaliator as well if this one got good feedback. Part of the problem about the retaliator one is that there isn't really *that* much interesting to say over the course of an hour, since the combat doesn't really change. No matter what your target is you just want to fire your torp from about 4k away while going about 300m/s, and then speed up and run away lol. I might do a shorter 1-2 group ERT version with it just for folks who want to see it in action though. When you were doing the ERT + Group ERT were you doing it all in a hornet? If so, that's REALLY good! That's the type of payouts I'd expect from a torpedo bomber since hammerheads take a LONG time to kill for any other ships thanks to the smarter AI constantly rotating the weakened shields away from you. The HRT-level combat makes more sense for a hornet since they're pretty effective up to VHRTs IMO, but I'm curious if you managed that type of income on ERTs with a hornet. I want to see that! And yeah I still think the beacons are more profitable than doing the regular VHRTs since you usually have much less quantuming and traveling, and the combat seems to be faster, but the issue is (like you also mentioned) availability and repeatability. They're adjusting payouts and availability in the PTU right now so we'll see where it lands. That's also why I've held off on making a video about it since I had recorded a lot of footage before they adjusted the payouts so I want to wait to see where it lands before i potentially record more outdated footage.

[@shawnc5188]

@@WingZeroType how fast can you do a gERT in a Eclipse? My best time is about 10:30. I’ve done three solo ERTs in 7 odd minutes, when they all spawned around Yela.

[@WingZeroType]

@@shawnc5188 I'm not sure, I haven't timed it. But it's probably right around there. When do you start/stop your timer? If you start with your ship at either Cellin/Daymar and then grab the mission, it should be pretty easy to just go boom-boom-boom through the moons one at a time :).

[@shawnc5188]

@@WingZeroType I usually start the timer at PO, until the last boomz. This is my solo ERT chain kzbin.info/www/bejne/naeTcmmZirlqd5Y

[@thefaithfulcraftsman7471]

Awesome video! Lots of very useful information. I'm new to ship combat and have relied on large missiles to take out the target for me (which works well) but after seeing your videos I think I'll give using the guns another try.

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks for the kind words, and nice! goodluck out there, ship combat is a lot of fun. It's got a learning curve for sure but getting out there and figuring out what's working and what's not is a lot of fun. I've got some tips at the end of my 3.17.1 bounty hunting update video that might help you if you're interested.

[@thefaithfulcraftsman7471]

@@WingZeroType thanks, I'll check that video out!

[@Broomtwo]

This video is incredibly instructive, I appreciate it

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much for checking it out and for the kind words!

[@CitizenFrost]

Great video. I managed to get 360k/hour from my mustang and then bought one of these to see how much it was earn, currently also getting 400k/hour with it but working on some optimisations as I think it can do much more.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah this definitely wasn't optimized, I was going a bit slower than usual due to also talking through everything (multitasking is hard!) But yeah this is a great way to show people how profitable bounty hunting can be!

[@maghroumhassen]

Very very useful video. All well explained. Thank you very much. Keep up the good work.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! I appreciate the feedback and I'm glad you liked the video. Also, is your username a reference to One Piece? :D

[@maghroumhassen]

@@WingZeroType Oh yes sure Gol.D.Roger the king of pirates from One Piece. :D

[@WingZeroType]

@@maghroumhassen niiice! that's awesome. I'm a fan too :D

[@brandonloveland4855]

Great video, no bias just gameplay

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! I'm glad you liked it!

[@ChipWarriors]

Cheers. This was really helpful, will definitely try it out. Now if only I had something to grind towards

[@WingZeroType]

There's so many ships!!!! How do you have nothing else to grind towards!!!? Get ALL the ships!!!! lol edit: forgot to say thanks for the kind words b/c I got so excited to try to convince you to get more ships lol

[@lovethesabres06]

One add that is extremely helpful. Once you drop out of quantum to your target, select a nearby POI to quantum while you are gliding towards the target. That way theres no scramble once the target is destroyed.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah that's really smart! I used to even set a route while autopiloting into range but got tired of it lol. But yeah it can definitely be helpful if you can keep tabs of which direction you're facing in vs your exit point.

[@undraAnderson]

Thanks for the quality video, i have about 300 hours ingame, i have a constellation taurus and an arrow for ship selection, i managed to do my ert mission with my arrow but im struggling with it, so looking to upgrade to something else, i think i will do what you did in this video grinding out vhrts with my arrow and buy an eclipse for ert's as ive heard its the second best for doing group erts. You should do 1 hour of group ert's for your next video im sure alot of people would love to watch. Also thanks for commentating it was helpful to understand the thought process and i appreciate all the little tips aswell. +1 sub and like o7

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks so much for your kind words and your feedback! Yeah I might not do a full hour of group ERTs because there isn't as much combat strategy involved there. I pretty much do the same thing regardless of who the target is and who else is there. Wait at around 5-8k until the "Neutralize" marker is on the target, the target has turned red, and then get two full missile lock rings on the target while flying towards them at 300-350m/s and fire from 4k out. It almost always hits as long as i follow that strategy. But yeah I might do maybe a 20-30 min session just to see if I can get an instance where things don't go well so people can see what I think about recovering from it is. And yeah, the eclipse is fantastic for group ERTs. Personally, I have a retaliator because I like having 6 torpedoes instead of 3, and typically i will just spend all 6 torpedoes and then claim the ship so that it restocks for free, and while it's claiming i'll just do group VHRTs in my other combat ships lol.

[@UnpluggedCordTTV]

I just used my arrow after I crashed in my ghost, and the arrow seems very good even at vhrts as well. I was shocked at how much dps fully gimbaled arrow put out, was able to kill wardens in just a few joust into merge passes to stay on top/rear of vanguard. I agree with need for using torps on ERTs for speed. Hopefully they don't nerf s9's to below 1shot threshold in future!! I like that I can do multiple groups if I don't miss in the retaliator but it is very slow and has a long claim time/cost. Need to test more to see if eclipse mobility and faster and claim time is better. With the retaliator you really do have to use thrusts to align and quantum away or else the pack will tear you to shreds if you try to just autopilot joust past them (top speed is like 600 in the retaliator)

[@WingZeroType]

@@UnpluggedCordTTV I agree that the retaliator is a lot slower than the eclipse and can be a pain to pull up to quantum b/c of how poorly it handles but I haven't had any struggles with getting close to being blown up. I am usually flying around 350m/s when I launch the torp and as soon as I fly past the target and it blows up I immediately boost + pull up to gain as much altitude as i can and then swing around to find a quantum marker once I've gotten high enough. The shields almost always go down but the retaliator has SO MUCH HULL hp that I've never felt like I was in any danger. I've even put it at autopilot on the SCM speed and gotten into the turret and killed a VHRT-level target that way when my torp missed once lol. It's a tanky beast. And i think it's max speed is around 900, but it'll be much slower in any moons with atmosphere (like Daymar). As for claim times, I think the eclipse has roughly half the claim time of the retaliator - I checked this too back when we had access to both of them to see which would be more "efficient" lol. Perhaps the faster speed of the eclipse could make it more efficient if you're going to be paying to restock the ship since you'll be able to grind out a lot more bounties if you're able to close the distance and get away faster, but if you're doing the claim strategy (which is what I typically do) I think the retaliator is better. What I often do is do a group ERT, and then either: 1. do a single ERT, then another group ERT. I make sure to save 1 torp for the hammerhead which I usually find in the first two targets, and then take out another ship to finish the group ERT and then do group VHRTs/singleVHRTs while the retaliator claims 2. wait 5 mins after doing a group ERT... browse youtube or reddit, and then get back to it with the new group ERT.

[@alejodavies]

Great video, super informative. Thank you!

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much, I'm glad you found it useful!

[@U-Ali-1]

wow i didn't even skip once i was hooked to the end, very good content, can you make more videos like this. 👍

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! That's the plan! I'm going to most likely do videos like this for the retaliator and the eclipse as well since they're premier bounty hunters (money-making wise). I'll wait until 3.18 for this though since some things are changing and 3.18 will hopefully be live soon

[@ChristopherGreerCDN]

Great video. Your description of your actions during play is helpful for new players like myself to see the decision making going into prioritizing targets, setting power priority, and some dogfighting. What's your take on the Vanguard variants? I see you're not using the EMP so why the Sentinel vs the Harbinger for the torp for pretty much the same price?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you, I really appreciate the feedback and I'm really glad that this was useful for you! I think the Sentinel is the best Vanguard in-game right now, hands down. It's the cheapest to buy and the most effective for a solo pilot thanks to having the maximum missile loadout (minus the 3xs5 torps of the harbinger) and being the most agile. All of the vanguards have the same thrust outputs but they all have slightly different weights. The lightest vanguard will therefore be the most agile, and that is the Sentinel. The Warden and the Hoplite are pretty similar in weight, but the Warden is significantly more expensive in-game and the Hoplite has fewer missile hardpoints than the Sentinel. The Harbinger is about 40% heavier than the Sentinel and therefore the Sentinel is about 40% more agile than the Harbinger, and that actually ends up mattering in combat a lot IMO. Yes, the pitch/roll/yaw maximum amounts are the same across Vanguards but the thrusters actually moving the ship around and getting to those maximum rates depends on the agility of the ship. The Harbinger does get those 3 s5 torpedos and a slightly stronger turret for the gunner, but I don't think that outweighs the huge maneuverability disadvantage it comes with. if you're buying with real money, I'd suggest getting the Warden instead though since that's the dedicated combat variant and the Sentinel is the Electronic Warfare variant, so it might lose some of it's straight up combat capability down the line when EWAR gets implemented.

[@sleestackk]

Use the EMP.. you'll kill even faster

[@sleestackk]

Its not just the best Vanguard..its one of the best combat ships in the game.

[@WingZeroType]

@@sleestackk well with a hybrid loadout i don't have a weapon group to put it on, and i don't want to fire the ballistic gun everytime i fire the lasers which is why I didn't bother with the EMP.

[@WingZeroType]

@@sleestackk I agree!! It's a very good ship (currently) :D

[@RecklessFables]

Once again posting the most actually useful content about SC.

[@RecklessFables]

Now I just need to set up my Hoplite and grind up from MRTs.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! I'm glad this was actually useful to you, I wasn't sure if the format would be too long and too full of downtime but figured some folks might want to see how to efficiently chain bounties for money-making. And yeah, the hoplite is a great vanguard as well! Not as many missiles as the Sentinel but just about the same level of agility and the same world-class firepower and durability!

[@jaybird210]

great video! i've been debating about getting the sentinel again this patch, but after seeing this, i think i will and give this a try. one thing about one of group VHRTs getting killed for you, i have been doing a lot of bunker missions, and i've noticed (since this patch) there have been VHRT like enemy AI that spawn above the facility where i'm doing my mission. i've lost my ship like this a couple times, but the facility turrets often then take out the enemy AI if i stand there and watch for a while, so it might be something like that (or players taking them out if they're doing their bunkers with beefy ships that can take some abuse while parked outside). another good reason to be doing the group VHRTs.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! And yeah the sentinel is fantastic. I've also noticed sometimes my VHRT spawns and there are 6 ships there, so I think sometimes there might also be duplicated spawns which make have another bounty hunter killing your target for you, but yeah I'll take bugs in my favor for once :)

[@Curveball]

Nice content, but a tip for you......Set your marker to jump out once you get to your target's location. That way once you kill your target, you just aim for the jump point you already set and jump away. It doesn't seem like that would make much of a difference, but it does. (Edit) Just read Det's post that said basically the same thing. lol.

[@WingZeroType]

haha yeah that's a fair point. I know I could do that but I'll be honest I just really don't like fussing with the star map. You're right though it'd definitely save 5-10seconds per combat encounter, potentially more if there's multiple OMs and I can set the marker to a more efficient OM. I guess ultimately I'd rather just pay that small tax instead of zooming in on the star map each time, but I appreciate you sharing this tip - it will definitely be helpful for any others checking out the comments. I'll try to remember to mention that if i do another video like this as well - thank you!

[@chriskouvoutsakis536]

Been using this exact setup doing what youre doing with the missile at 5km out, its ridiculous lol. I dont have the rep you do as i just began building rep but i earnt give or take 600k in the 2 hour session i just finished, with call to arms.. is good fun .. gets repetitive though. The distortion weapons definately work, the ships often just go limp mode and it makes them an easy target. Ive grinded quant mining and i find this is a more efficient and fun way of making fast auec, without all the risk involved in doing it. Thanks for the tips, great video.

[@WingZeroType]

I'm glad it's working out for you! And yeah it can get repetitive, so I use different ships with different loadouts to try to keep things fresh lol. But yeah I love bounty hunting in this game right now :) Thanks for checking out my video, and goodluck out there!

[@osterpenpen9379]

You can actually turn off the quantum drive while in a jump without falling out into realspace. So you don't have to fiddle with it while boosting in. When going to repair, if you set a destination in map view, you can reset destination again without having to select it when you come out of quantum, and it'll put a bracket on your HUD without the quantum drive spooled up. I make use of that for cargo runs.

[@WingZeroType]

oh interesting, do you know if this works in 3.18? They seem to have fiddled a bunch with quantuming and aligning in that patch

[@osterpenpen9379]

@@WingZeroType I have no idea, but I make use of it when doing cargo hauling in my C2 and I will definitely find out when 3.18 drops. I would assume that it still works, though, as you do fall out of quantum if you turn the ship off completely, so I think all you're doing is telling it not to spool up.

[@alchemi8085]

This video was incredibly useful. I just upgraded from my Titan and it's pretty clear to me that I need to adjust to the slower maneuverability and speed of the Sentinel (the extra durability is great, though). It does pack a punch and I'm just using the stock loadout. Have you upgraded any of the ship components besides the guns? Any recommendations?

[@WingZeroType]

Yep it's fantastic! I upgraded the shields, missiles, and quantum drive as well. I'm on mobile right now but if you check the description of the video there's a Google doc link with the ship loadouts that I like to use for bounty hunting :)

[@msrt8]

Great video. Thanks!

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you liked it!

[@deio977]

Wing, you should start streaming, really. There will be lot of people watching you :) You create great content and I am watching this whole video without skipping it's good for veterans and newbies too. Because it's entertaining. 😘

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! I really appreciate that. I might start a bit, who knows. I was sort of against it at first but it might not be a bad thing to do if I'm just randomly testing things out

[@deio977]

@@WingZeroType What is important to realize is that you provide contribution to the community and this helps the game grow. You are important.

[@WingZeroType]

@@deio977 Thank you so much for the kind words, I really appreciate it

[@kiloxman117]

I agree! I myself am also going to start streaming if anyone would be willing to watch my content as well!

[@SolidTerre]

The value of your videos are insane, and you should consider streaming on Twitch (you're playing anyway to make your videos, no reason not to livestream while doing so) ! Then you can montage it for KZbin if you want. I would watch the live for sure... !

[@WingZeroType]

thank you! after this video I did start doing some twitch streaming! catch me at www.twitch.tv/wingzerotype :) I don't have a set schedule yet since I'm just testing it out to see if people are interested but would love to have you drop by if you're ever around when I'm live!

[@gatorpika]

Couple of minor tips on QTing. If you want to go from Celling to Daymar, you don't have to go all the way to Yela. Just quit your QT to Yela shortly after you start it and Crusader will be out of the way. Alternatively, but it's slower, you can start and stop jumping to Crusader and then you will be able to see the OM markers around the planet after the short jump. So you can jump to OM1 and then to Daymar directly. I use this a lot when jumping to Crusader or Hurston because if you let it go all the way in, then it's a pain to find the closest marker, then go to OM1 or whatever to get to the station. Also at the end of the fight I typically boost away like you do, but then decouple and find the next marker if I can rather than running to the nearest OM to avoid getting chased and then working out the next jump. Saves a few seconds maybe. Good video.

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks! Yeah I knew about the cancelling of Quantum inside crusader space but I tried it recently and it didn't work for me, so I thought they changed it. I'll have to try it again - if that still works that's a nice update! Another nice thing about going to OM1 on top of crusader is that if you're going to PO (like I do) then you can get there in a single jump from OM1, instead of 2 jumps if you're outside of the planet's OM-space. And yeah I stopped trying to look for lots of OMs while decoupled because sometimes the enemies will fire more missiles at me and one time I didn't burn enough decoys to send it away from me and it actually disabled my ship lol. Another time I got crashed into by a light fighter. So now I just try to get away ASAP. But yeah I appreciate you sharing the tip about the crusader quantuming, it's great to hear that it's still working!

[@gatorpika]

@@WingZeroType It works fine for me. Try holding B until it drops out. One wrench Chris just threw in the process is that if you target a jump point manually the game often sets the target in the map screen, so unfortunately you have to hit F2 and hit clear target before you can see all the points again to find the next one. I am hoping we eventually can see all of the OMs when they redo the maps, but discovering that a partial jump toward crusader will show me all of the OMs and I can go directly to OM1 then PO or whatever has been pretty huge. Jumping all the way to the planet, then trying to find the closest OM to jump to before I could go to OM1 was a pain. As for missiles, set your decoy count to 2 and they will be more effective (right/left alt-H increase and decrease the count). You will see the deploy count in red above the decoy inventory on the HUD. 2 will spoof most missiles, especially launched from range. Only exception is EM missiles (lighting bolt icon) that are bugged now and will often ignore decoys. For that you have to make a hard maneuver to the side as they converge and the beeping gets fast. I mostly corkscrew in a smaller fighter, but in a big ship you might just try a boosted side strafe.

[@WingZeroType]

@@gatorpika thanks! Yeah I knew about the decoy salvos but I often try to be stingy and just use 1 for thermal and CS missiles lol. But yeah later in the video once I was ready to restock I bumped up the salvo count since I was gonna restock soon anyway. I love how instructive you are with your comments though! The world needs more folks like you

[@gatorpika]

@@WingZeroType Yeah, missiles other than EM are bad enough that 1 decoy probably does it most of the time. Last patch I was mostly not even using countermeasures and would just evade them as the converged. I just like using 2 though because you mostly don't have to worry about being hit or popping a second if the first one doesn't take while trying to hold your aim. I have not done long bounty grinds lately so maybe running out is an issue if you go an hour straight or whatever. I have most of the ships I want so I am just having fun mostly this wipe and doing other stuff like bunker rep grinding, PVP bounties for fun, etc. My org has a lot of helpful people who are always passing info back and forth on the various loops so just something I am used to.

[@WingZeroType]

@@gatorpika that's awesome, and yeah that totally makes sense. I've got a few other combat ships I need to buy back (bucc, sabre, talon, khartu-al, and maybe even prowler if there's time) but I've got my main core set, which is a great feeling and affords a lot of fun variety for bounty hunting. I'm expecting a full wipe including rep for the 3.18 patch so I didn't bother with anymore bunkers but I greatly enjoyed siege of orison even with the bugs so maybe I'll try more bunkers too

[@shawnc5188]

Yes, I fully understand the vibe of GH, i respawn there as well, and use fast single seater fighters like the M50 to fly to PO… because I’ve had other players follow me to my hanger, so with a light fighter they can’t board your ship to shoot you in the back of the head outside the Armistice zone.

[@WingZeroType]

yeah I use my avenger titan to get to PO after respawning since it's a cheap instant-expedite ship, and even if someone follows you onto the pad they can't get into the titan since I can just enter the pilot seat via the ladder next to the cockpit.

[@WeaselDancingTime]

If you do a quick check on the comms screen you can see the channel for your ship and check the member count for stowaways. I've had people try it all over, but it is quite funny to set a trap if you know they're hiding.

[@WingZeroType]

@@WeaselDancingTime haha yeah i'm always pretty paranoid about people around me since most people that don't reach out to you first are up to no good.

[@shawnc5188]

@@WeaselDancingTime Nah, I couldn't be bothered, so just jump into my fighter and boost out, as you can get ambushed by someone "it's a PVP" zone...

[@kingslaphappy1533]

This is a very helpful video since I plan on doing these bounties soon. I am also a fan of the Harbinger because of the 3 torpedoes plus its -%15 reduction to energy damage. It also has has slightly more hull hp. I didn’t realise that it was 40% more sluggish than the Sentinel since those numbers arent shown on Erkul… has anyone ever tested this? Thanks again for the good vid👍

[@WingZeroType]

I'm glad you found this helpful! And yes, the harbinger is a lot slower than the sentinel in the G-forces that it can pull. And yep, I've tested it myself! Check out the "transversal mobility tab of this spreadsheet for the G-forces that ships can pull in different directions: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Dtwkz8izPCwhwiaK5YbAVqr7x4P6ZNRHp_GaaEQrQHA/edit?usp=sharing And it's true the harbinger gets -15% energy damage reduction but the sentinel gets -10% so the harbinger is only a bit more tanky in that respect. Personally, I find the mobility to be much more important, but you should get whatever ship makes you happy, and if you're effective with the harbinger then that's totally cool

[@wombatscat3925]

Love the video! Quick question, with all the Vanguard variants, which one do you prefer?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! Personally, I prefer the Sentinel. When it comes to combat in 3.19.1 it's really a choice between the harbinger and the sentinel, since the other two variants don't really offer any combat bonuses. The torps of the harbinger are nice, but I feel like the acceleration penalties are too great and I'd much rather have the more agile ship with the EMP and lose the 3 size 5 torps.

[@madsondurton8754]

you added a ton of small tips thank you

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks a bunch for checking it out! I appreciate you giving me your time :)

[@davec8401]

Very nice! I run the same exact weapon setup with the exception of cannons on stagger and ballistic and cannons on the same trigger so I can attempt EMP with the other trigger

[@WingZeroType]

whoa do you just use good trigger discipline to make sure that you don't waste the ballistic ammo then? Why do you prefer staggered fire? I like the default method more but curious what other people see in it.

[@davec8401]

@@WingZeroType I like the 'stream' of cannon fire with stagger, goes nice with the big chin ballistic. I'm not that great of a pilot, so I usually go back to base to repair after missions. I reload while doing that

[@WingZeroType]

@@davec8401 ahh ok that makes sense, thanks for responding!

[@ripcord_z9928]

Awesome footage @WingZeroType definite sub from me. Getting back into SC myself again after a long time away, Sentinel still the GoTo for VHRTs ? Damn you make it look so so easy 😉 Would love to see you out on a mission like this in the Blade (thats if they fixed the weapons by now) and maybe in the Gladius. So far after starting up again I only have the Connie and a Gladius, working up to my Sentinel.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much! sorry I missed your comments initially because youtube had marked your comment as spam for some reason, which makes no sense at all lol. But yeah I think the sentinel is definitely the go-to for VHRTs, it's cheap and powerful and relatively easy to use and decently survivable. I haven't done any hour-long bounty hunting videos on youtube yet but I do stream on twitch! Come say hi there and check me out and I'm happy to fly whatever you're interested in seeing :) twitch.tv/WingZeroType And connie and gladius is a really solid start, but just know that in 3.18 we're getting a full wipe and complete reset, so don't grind tooo hard right now ;) What's your pledge ship?

[@ripcord_z9928]

@@WingZeroType Both the Connie and the Gladius is pledged. So I have a very good foot in the door when starting. I have a quick question on QD for the Sentinel, which would you advise?

[@WingZeroType]

@@ripcord_z9928 for now I'd go any military drive. The XL-1 is the fastest but it's also 100k. The crossfield is around 60k and it's only a bit slower (about 20seconds longer for a 4-5 minute warp). So you decide if that's worth it to you :)

[@paulfunnell2856]

Cool video man trying to get used to a sentinel will change my tactics cheers

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks man, goodluck out there! Hopefully this helps you be more successful!

[@henryasoares]

Wonderful video!!! I just want to understand how can you do your first pass through your enemy. Do you use the throttle in the standard position and use the left or right thrusters ( letters A and D in your keyboard)? Tks!!!!

[@WingZeroType]

Hey sorry I had responded to your comment but I guess it didn't post. Yep I try to make it so that I land on the enemy at around SCM speed, so I'm speeding towards them and am braking down towards the SCM speed as I'm getting to weapons range. And then I'm side strafing so that rather than flying straight past them in a "joust" I actually end up circling around them using A and D, and once I'm actually in that sort of circling orbit i'll roll my ship using Q/E and then up/down strafe using space/ctrl since those are the strongest maneuvering dimensions. I use dual joysticks so I'm not actually pressing those keys, but those are the default keys if you're using mouse/keyboard :)

[@extectic]

A head tracker is really nice. You can just glance down and look at the displays you can't currently see. Or look up to see a fighter above. Takes a little getting used to, though. I prefer it though, and I disabled all forms of automatic look-ahead - if I'm not using the tracker I want to not have the viewpoint shift around. Also, might be a thought to set your quantum destination while you're traveling in to kill the first target - so it's already on Yela when you kill it. Just go straight to quantum and head for the next guy. Granted, this is all coming from a shit pilot, I only barely passed my group HRT eval mission.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah I agree that a head tracker would be really cool, I just want to make it so that my videos are a bit more widely applicable to more ppl so I don't use one. I just use free look to look around while outside of combat instead. But who knows I might change my mind down the line lol. It's always tempting. And yeah I know I could be a bit more efficient with the starmap but honestly it annoys me which is why I don't use it lol. Lots of times it makes me need to manually clear the route before it'll let me quantum away from combat which isn't worth the hassle for me personally. But I appreciate you sharing the tips, I agree they're both good things to do

[@extectic]

@@WingZeroType Yeah the starmap is an atrocity, full stop. Trying to do something like run a trading route is painnn. No saving destination, so you have to click, scroll, zoom, rotate, unzoom, unrotate and yada yada before you can even try to set a course... and then it refuses the course, unless you're parked at an OM marker. So then you manually quantum to a marker and do the whole song and dance again. Just absolutely awful.

[@UnpluggedCordTTV]

I use F + wasd to navigate the MFDs now to do my preflight checklist, and a custom file in game folder to allow a further back fov.. I think 75 is the minimum in order to see all 4 vanguard screens.

[@WingZeroType]

@@extectic you're completely right lol. So I avoid it unless I really need to deal with it lol

[@WingZeroType]

@@UnpluggedCordTTV oh interesting, I like the field of view that I have right now (it's something in the 90s) but it doesn't work for all ships. That's one annoying thing, is that there's no good uniform way to do it that works across all ships. I thought the wider field of view lets you see more screens, but you're seeing all 4 screens with 75 which is pretty narrow, that's interesting. Isn't your view more zoomed in?

[@phinn242]

late to post I know but than you the tactics you use were really helpful thanks

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks a lot for coming back and letting me know! It's great to hear that the video helped you :)

[@samsuh]

im learning a lot. havent started the game yet, but this is what i want to be doing :)

[@WingZeroType]

That's great to hear! Just know that there is a wipe coming up soon that will reset all your progress so if you want to hop in now and try things out without fear of screwing up, it's a great time to do it!

[@Brian-jg4kc]

Awesome video. Just started using the sentinel so it’s nice watching a how-to on vhrt’s. I’m curious as to why you don’t use your EMP’s much though. I’ve noticed that even within 200m at full charge they don’t seem to effect my targets. I’ll drop their shields and hit them expecting their ship to shutdown but I’m not seeing that. Am I doing it wrong?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! And I didn't use my EMP back in 3.17 because I was running a hybrid loadout and I wanted to have separate weapon groups for my lasers and my ballistics. In 3.19 I don't think Hybrid loadouts are any good anymore for VHRTs so I'm just running a full laser cannon loadout and I do use my EMP now. I have seen it impacting the enemy via doing some shield damage, and occasionally (but rarely) I have seen the shields go down but it's not common, and I can't be sure it was the EMP that did it. I have definitely seen the EMP take small chunks out of their shield though, so I don't try to use it for the distortion damage as much as I just use it as some added DPS with a small potential of maybe shutting down that pesky front shield that doesn't take damage. Most ships in the VHRT-tier have really really high distortion resistance on their powerplants so aiming for a full shutdown isn't really feasible anymore unless you're stacking a bunch of distortion damage via your guns as well

[@djdavemash]

I thought my skills have declined in 3.17.2 but it just looks like you seem to face the same problems. VHRTs and ERTs seem to be a bit harder now, even tho most of the time there are 90+ people on the server compared to the 30 I played with before usually. Maybe something helpful for you: When I'm fighting in the asteroid fields, I usually pull in my wings. Flying is still the same but the ships signature gets smaller and its harder to get hit by weapons fire and asteroids. In athmosphere tho it's harder to fly like this

[@WingZeroType]

thanks! That's a great tip about the wings! I'll have to see if I can remember to do that lol. And yeah your skills probably haven't declined, it's just that the AI is much more easily able to keep up now lol. Hooray for CIG making server progress! it's nice to have a more challenging battle, although I wish we got to fight a little bit less outnumbered in that case (or they raised payouts across the board if they AI is going to keep getting more and more challenging)

[@djdavemash]

Agreed on the payout rise. I have to fight much longer now XD

[@GlareAtEm]

I am new to the game, two weeks in, and cant find a single thing in the shop right now that I like. I am FIXATED on the Vanguard, and Fleet week cannot come faster. I was first focused on the warden, but I like the idea of the EMP stuff on the Sentinel. Could you give me a rundown on why you fly the sentinel instead of the warden and why? I'm stuck between the two. Thanks!

[@WingZeroType]

Welcome to the game!!! Fleet week is about a month away so hang in there! You'll be able to try out all the ships for free (although you won't be able to change their default loadouts, unfortunately). Honestly I consider the sentinel and the warden pretty interchangeable in the current patch, and I fly the sentinel because I don't own a vanguard and I buy them in-game and the sentinel is over a million aUEC cheaper while having slightly better directional acceleration. The warden has slightly higher top speed, but that's rarely an actual factor right now. If you're buying with real money I recommend people to get the Warden because it's cheaper than the sentinel and it's most likely to retain all of its combat capabilities once EWAR gameplay is added in and the sentinel is rebalanced around that. Another thing is that the sentinel costs more than the warden, so if down the line you decide you'd prefer the sentinel you can upgrade the warden to a sentinel (but you cannot go the other way around without melting the ship and rebuying it). I gave you the cliff notes but I made a video doing a deep dive on all the vanguards if you want to take a look! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHu1koeef5qUgas

[@bobbymystery6220]

For me the best way I do it is doing group vhrts and then doing a Mission called guard site against hostiles so now you do the group charts and then when you are waiting for it to come back you do another 60k+ mission that is really quite easy

[@WingZeroType]

How long does it take you to do the guard site against hostiles mission? The reason I ask is because the group VHRTs will come back in about 5 mins, and for me I like to stick with space combat or ground combat, since when I'm doing space combat I don't wear any armor so that if I die I don't lose anything of consequence.

[@Kilanov]

Looks like I found the new ship to pay for my ludicrous spending habits. 890 Jump here I come!

[@WingZeroType]

This is the way :D

[@dragonchild_SC]

Great video. Thanks a lot. Good to see content in 3.17.2 I also really like that you show the "whole" thing (e.g. Waiting for mission to spawn, mistakes like loosing a wing and still going on.) So you really show it as it is.Just wished I had your pilot skills :-) I admit I really struggle a bit with 3.17.2. In the past (3.16) I could do VHRT in my Defender, but now I sometimes find even MRTs a challenge. I seem to take too long to take the enemy down, so I take too much damage on the single Size 2 shield. Would love to hear how you rate the Defender in 3.17.2 - still good in your eyes?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you so much for the kind words and your feedback - I'm glad you found it useful to see the things going wrong as well as the good things lol. Keep at it and your skill will get better! Try to think of what went wrong whenever you blow up and try something different next time! The very first time I piloted a ship in star citizen I failed a VLRT lol. As for 3.17.2, it's definitely a LOT more challenging. I think the Defender is still a great ship (and actually a FANTASTIC ship for combat service beacons, if they ever fix the spawn rates so that they're actually attainable). The issue is that hit registration is a bit of a mess, and NPCs with s2 shields can sometimes be "invulnerable" where it looks like you're hitting the front shield but the damage is being registered on the back shields, but then the front shields never go down. Because of this, it's really useful to shoot at enemies while you're above/behind/below them and not while you're in front of them, so strafing around targets is a LOT better than jousting them. I definitely run into problems sometimes where it feels like the enemy JUST WON'T GO DOWN. I find this happening more in ships that have lower-caliber weapons, strangely and less often in my vanguard... i still haven't figured out what the pattern is there though. Keep at it though, as you saw sometimes you have to disengage if things don't go well for you, but it's ok. Get those shields up and try again. If you run away it spreads out the wingmen a bit so that might make future engagements a bit less dangerous.

[@dragonchild_SC]

@@WingZeroType Thanks a lot for your answer. That actually explains a lot. I had no issues taking down the light fighters, but the Cutty felt nearly indestructible. I most likely did joust and hit that S2 shield they way you described. Will try to get to a better angle next time. So far I did not manage to get one of the new combat service beacons. Saw it once or twice pop up, but was never fast enough to accept it. Thanks and keep up the good work.

[@WingZeroType]

@@dragonchild_SC Thanks, yeah I think we're going to have to live with the s2 shield bugs on NPCs for most of this year. It's not something they said they've fixed for the next PTU patch and we're likely not going to get 3.18 until the end of this year due to the giant items that are in that patch. so yeah, for now just have to live with it

[@The_Diginaut]

Might as well set the flares to 3 burst. That'll flare off almost any missile and since you're running an AD5B and have to rearm, you'll be fine on flares

[@WingZeroType]

yeah I usually set it to a 2-burst which almost always works but I forgot to do it this time because I was focused on talking and trying to be informative lol. I think a 3-burst would have me run out of decoys before I finished the AD5Bs since I only had 16 decoys left before the last bounty, which would've left me 14 decoys left out of the 48 total after another 2-burst.

[@The_Diginaut]

@@WingZeroType Fair enough. It's not too big of a ship, so you'll probably be fine with 2 like 98% of the time. I love the A2 because it has so many I set it to like 10 lol

[@TheMartinator99]

Thanks so much for your content, it helps a ton. Sadly i dont have a vanguard this patch yet and im somewhat inconsistent in my Gladius with VHRTs (sometimes i can do 6 before i restock, the last 2 days i just blow up 2 to 4 bountys in, which is already a lot better than my 325a results). Do i just suck or is there some trick to the moments where you seem rather stationary in your videos (or moving slower)? i cant quite figure out what i do differently between my fast blow ups or long chains.

[@WingZeroType]

You're very welcome, and thanks for the feedback, it really helps me know what's working for folks. Sorry that you're having some inconsistent results - in the gladius you will be moving a bit faster than I am in the Sentinel, the sentinel is a heavy fighter so its a good deal slower than the gladius. But I generally keep the speed limit to at or slightly above the SCM speed (the border of the white and red speed zone) unless I'm running away to recharge shields. As for movements, I'm mostly trying to rotate around the enemy via vertically strafing upwards and rolling my ship slightly, and occasionally trying to fly past the enemy and get around them (if I'm finding myself face-to-face). In the past couple days I've had a few inconsistent bounty hunting experiences with light/medium fighters as well, where I get rammed by the AI or get hit by a rogue missile that I thought I had flared away, so occasionally mistakes do happen. If you're able to record your own session to take a look at it and try to see what went wrong it *really* helps! Also if you upload it I'm happy to take a look and give you my suggestions on what I think was working or not working. I also have a video I made specifically for the gladius in the previous patch. I would no longer suggest using the distortion weapons like I was using in that video but you can see the type of combat maneuvering I'm doing in the gladius. One last thing is I'd strongly suggest making sure you're moving your capacitor around between 100% weapons, shields, and (if needed) thrusters. It *really* makes a big difference. Here's the gladius video if you're curious: kzbin.info/www/bejne/anzWqKp4oK6Wj5I

[@TheMartinator99]

@@WingZeroType Wow thats a very long response very quickly. Ive watched a lot of your videos and im running your recommended loadout. Its kind of reassuring that the rogue missles and weird rams are happening to other people too. Its probably that im getting to close and somehow cant get away to recharge shields (i found the gladius can afford to have the cap on guns a lot more than my 325 but the mentioned last 2 days i just dont get to dps as much because i take more damage) Ive tried the limiter at SCM and at 2/3ds up and find that i have to fiddle with it less when its at 2/3ds (scrolling up whenever i need to speed up or using sticks with analoge axes instead of a keyboard would do the trick). Thank you so much for the offer to take a look i may come backt to it :) (also ive been hurricane grinding with a friend whos online less but thats just a blast, even if less profitable divided by 2)

[@WingZeroType]

@@TheMartinator99 ah yeah in group VHRTs when there's 4 enemies and they all have turrets it can definitely be hard. Sometimes when running away if there are different enemy ships you can engage with one of them away from one or two others (e.g. if a ship is faster or slower they'll get strung out compared to the others) and that can be a way to try to limit incoming damage. But yeah given the way they've made group VHRTs have up to 4 VHRT-level targets its definitely something we have to deal with, maneuvering definitely helps but there's only so much you can do when there's a bunch of turrets aiming for you that can move just as fast as you can maneuver, so sometimes you have to just ship away at them bit by bit. Also if you're doing bounties in Hurston/microTech space you can get bounties on the planets themselves which have a lot more aerodynamic drag than bounties in Crusader space which'll only have bounties on 3 moons, which only has Daymar with any sort of considerable aero drag. On light fighters the agility of the ship is a major aspect of its defense so fighting in atmo will definitely make you take more damage as well. And yeah, feel free to hit me up if you want to, I'm always happy to try to offer some help.

[@herrhav0k]

What kind of weapons would you use on a Cutlass Black to do something similar? I'm not sure it can run the high risk targets, but if you were to outfit a cutty, what would you use? I hear a people talk about using laser weapons only, but I like the idea of these cannons with the lag pipper, killing the target as fast as possible and dipping out. Thanks in advance.

[@WingZeroType]

So the issue with s3 ballistic cannons is that they only have about 1 min of ammo, so you'd have to restock all the time. If you want, you can use laser cannons, and that's actually what i'd use on a cutlass myself if I was going after HRTs and above, and i'd run my power to shields except for when I needed to recharge weapons. It'll be tricky, but I think HRTs should be no problem and even VHRTs if you're careful and the enemy spawn isn't too crazy.

[@herrhav0k]

@@WingZeroType Thanks for the reply! I’m kind of itching to upgrade the Cutlass now. Looking at the Connie Andromeda or Taurus, but leaning towards the Taurus because my buddies like to do mining and cargo stuff. Do you reckon I could run these VHRT in the Taurus, or the Andromeda would be a lot better?

[@WingZeroType]

@@herrhav0kYou can definitely run VHRTs in the Taurus. Can even run ERTs :) Connies are awesome

[@RoxxSerm]

I find distortion canons not really good anymore. 4x MVSA in the nose and then putting them on staggered firing mode, just shreds and makes tracking/landing shots so easy. I put 32 Pioneer I missiles on, always giving the target a salvo of 4 at 3-4km. They are having a prox. fuze which means they dont need to hit to explode. Just get close enough. So i have rockets for 2 group vhrts and 2 solos in between. that usually aligns with the ammo for my a5db gatling quite well.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah I'm on the fence about the 4x MVSAs vs splitting with 2 EVSDs. I have seen that the hurricanes still get disabled by the EVSDs (and you can see that at least twice in this video) where they just start floating off in a random direction without firing back, and their EM signature just steadily drops which makes them a lot easier to kill with the slow-projectile cannons/gatling. But yeah the Wardens and Valkyries would die much faster with the 4x MVSA so I'm still on the fence lol. I personally don't prefer the staggered mode because I'm usually watching my pip more than my stream of bullets, and I prefer to get more alpha whenever possible but it's a minor difference so I think people should just do whatever works for them. And just like you said I used to always use the most number of pioneers possible, but in 3.17 the missiles were rebalanced so you can actually get more damage out of having a full loadout of dominators vs pioneers, and I just use 1-2 dominators per enemy (like you saw in the video) based on how dangerous the spawn is and how quickly I want to take them out. I think almost all of the dominators I fired hit so I'm pretty happy with them so far, and I was able to stretch them+the AD5B ammo out to 3 Group VHRTs + 3 VHRTs

[@RoxxSerm]

@@WingZeroType didn't even notice I actually do that. While I play with lagpip i only use it for the first few hits and then just let my brain take over while watching the arch of my stagger-fired lasers and Gatling to aim further and stay in target. Maybe that's why staggered works so well for me. I think I'll try a harder hitting missile loadout then. I really would like to replace the Gatling with a fat s5laser canon but it's just too much of an impact to the mvsa shot amount.

[@WingZeroType]

@@RoxxSerm yeah i'll start trying out staggered on various ships to see if that works better for me as well. A lot of people have suggested it to me, and I had mapped the keybind in 3.17 when it became available so I'll just have to remember to try it out more. And yeah I totally hear you about the capacitor for the s5 laser cannon, back when we didn't really ever need to go repair our ships I was running a fully energy-based loadout but now with the harder enemy AI, the atmospheric bounties which slows your maneuverability, the nerf to s2 shields, and the bug where energy-based fire ignores shields completely, I think ballistics are the way to go and like we saw in this video my missiles, ballistics, and decoys all were running low around the same time so it worked out.

[@ELIE_FPS]

1hr sheesh, that must have taken forever to upload lmao. But regardless very cool video and will be enjoying my next hour!

[@WingZeroType]

haha thanks yeah it did take a while to upload, I hope you enjoy it! Obviously there's some filler time since I can't be interesting for 60 mins straight but I tried! Let me know if you have any recommendations :)

[@ELIE_FPS]

@@WingZeroType You did a very good job with keeping it engaging and interesting even tho it was an hour long. As for recommendations honestly just more of the same as SC is at a point content wise that variety within it is very hard. But good job and keep up the good work!

[@WingZeroType]

@@ELIE_FPS thanks! I appreciate it!

[@CaptainFlagella]

Why is the sentinel so much more popular than the harbinger? They both cost the same right now, and aside from the EMP the harbinger gets a bonus in almost every area, even bigger turret guns. Does the added hull weight make it that terrible at maneuvering?

[@WingZeroType]

you're exactly right, the hull weight does significantly inhibit it's ability to accelerate in any direction, and that includes the pitch/roll/yaw attributes. While the max pitch/roll/yaw of the ship is the same as other vanguards, due to it's added weight and the fact that all vanguards have the same thrusters, the ship is incredibly sluggish compared to the others. That's the primary reason people prefer the other vanguards. Once armor is implemented though, it might be much more valuable since it is supposed to be a more heavily armored variant due to being a bomber, but presumably combat will have changed drastically by then. And when you say the harbinger gets a bonus in almost every area, critically it has the same shields and pilot-controlled dps as the other vanguards, it only gets a slight damage resistance increase versus the others (since armor doesn't exist right now) and the 3 size 5 torpedos. The torps are decent, but since you only get 3 of them it's not nearly enough to offset the maneuverability disadvantage.

[@turrboenvy4612]

I haven't been able to confirm it for sure, but I find restock works more often if I don't switch back to missiles once I am out.

[@WingZeroType]

oh interesting, I've only really tried restocking at the landing pads on moons and that's been pretty good for me. I've definitely had problems trying it at the stations but I don't recall if i swapped to empty missiles or not (I don't know why I would have?)

[@m4_patriot374]

Can you considered reviewing the Nomad for VHRTs? It has the same guns as a gladius but less ammo. You could work in a ship review aswell

[@WingZeroType]

Yes, I definitely have. I even mentioned it in my VHRT tier list that I had done a whole bunch of VHRT combat with it with the intent of creating a video for it, but at the end I gave up because I just struggled with it too much. It's got a weaker capacitor and a larger size so it really struggles and it's extra s1 shield isn't enough IMO to undo it's shortcomings. It really goes to show you how much of the gladius's power comes from its smaller profile and agility.

[@sleestackk]

put the ad5b's and 4 msva's on the same weapon group and use your emp...when the group vhrt is done..just go restock and refuel and fly back to daymar or Cellin and that should be enough time for the group vhrt to repopulate... You nuke their shields on your way in.. get within 500m.. use a fully charged EMP... their ship turns off and floats and STOPS shooting at you... You should never have to run and recharge at all in a vhrt in the Sentinal... again.. USE YOUR EMP

[@WingZeroType]

I think I only had to run and recharge once in the hour that I was playing and that wasn't because of the ship that was shooting me, that was because of all the wingmen that I let get around me. The EMP wouldn't do anything against all of them because their shields would've still been up. I personally prefer to be able to shoot the ballistics and the lasers separately since I don't have to reload very often and I can fill in regular VHRTs in the middle of the groups populating, but I hear what you're saying.

[@WhitefoxSpace]

I love how I can hear you're using a Connie Alpha when you launch missiles lol. Or am I wrong? Pretty sure you've got it bound like me, forward trigger is set to MOM and click is launch? :)

[@WingZeroType]

Haha I've got dual gladiator nxts. Clicking in one one of the hats is MOM but you're right, the trigger is launch ;) I actually JUST got a better mic setup so I'll play around with it a bit and see if I can do a better job of isolating that sound lol. But yeah it's a great game to play with hosas :D

[@WhitefoxSpace]

@@WingZeroType Aww damn I was wrong, but don't try to isolate the sound it sounds cool man.

[@WingZeroType]

@@WhitefoxSpace thanks! I'll try in general bc I don't want keyboard sounds and mouse sounds coming through but I won't be specifically trying to cut out joystick noises which will likely come through anyway due to being closer to the mic

[@doctor3y]

Been running the same build but with just one EVSD, is it better to run with 2? Also great content keep it up!

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! And I haven't personally tried with only a single EVSD, but i feel like with 2 I get a pretty consistent disabling of hurricanes. I could try dropping it to 1 and checking that, I'll have to remember to see if that works just as well.

[@4eyedjohnson954]

Nice video! Have you tried all the weapon types for the Sentinel? What do you think of laser cannons and repeaters?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! I've tried a bunch of them, yes. Id say use repeaters primarily for pvp, because to match weapon velocities you'd have to downsize the nose gun to a s4 repeater (since s5 repeaters have the slower 700m/s speed of cannons). You really need the faster 1400m/s speed for pvp. But for pvp I strongly suggest using the MVSA cannons with a s5 cannon or ad5b ballistic Gatling. I like to use two EVSD distortion cannons in the nose as well but that's only useful against hurricanes, it basically has no effect on wardens, Valkyries, and hammerheads

[@kenolivier5701]

Such a helpful video. So you don't use the EMP at all?

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you! And yeah it's because we only have two weapon groups and I'd rather be able to use a weapon group for the energy weapons and another for the ballistics. The EMP can also be tricky to use since you need to charge it, wait for it to get near the full charge, and then trigger it while you're in range of the enemy, but ideally you want to get their shields down first otherwise you won't disable their systems, and that's challenging to get the timing right because the EMP won't fire right when you pull the trigger, it's got a 1-2 second delay between trigger pull and actually firing. So because of all these reasons, I don't bother with it and instead just focus on positioning my ship and trying to pilot effectively to prioritize my laser cannons and ballistic gatling.

[@bobcoffee11]

I really need to work on my piloting skills, I'm using a keyboard and mouse but I will have to play around with settings more. My VRTs take longer and I miss a lot of my shots.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah a few quick things that you might want to check on are to make sure you're not over-speeding. I like to set my speed limit at the SCM speed once the combat starts and i only increase it again if I need to chase the enemy down or run away to recharge my shields. I actually set a hotkey to do that (the X key). Also make sure you're managing your capacitor! I like to set 1, 2, and 3 to max out the capcaitor to weapons, thrusters, and shields, respectively. It'll have your guns charging 3x as fast which can also help combat end faster.

[@diminios]

Thank you for the overview! I really need to try this, it's just that I dislike cannons. I know, I know, capacitor efficiency and all that, as well as being able to supplement the lasers with a good ballistic. I just dislike the slow projectile velocity. Edit: would it be better to use a lead pip with cannons?

[@WingZeroType]

Haha yeah I totally understand the dislike for the slow velocity, it's always irritating to have your projectiles miss despite having lined it up well. But yeah you already know all my arguments for it ;) And personally I just prefer lag pip for both. I really value being able to see where on a ship shots would land, and I've gotten pretty good at predicting direction even with a lag pip

[@The_Diginaut]

You could run the Sentinel PvP loadout and do VHRT's just fine. Gimbal down to a size 4 on the nose and run 1x Rhino (or AD4B) and 4x GVSR's. You still fire fixed, you're just gimballing down to the Rhino because size 5 repeaters have the 700m/s velocity. You have to go 4 or lower to keep the 1400. The AD4B also has 1400m/s velocity.

[@diminios]

@@The_Diginaut yeah, that's what I usually do. Just without the ballistics, as the ammo capacity is too low for my liking.

[@WingZeroType]

@@The_Diginaut I agree that you could run a full repeater loadout and do fine, but the AD4B has 700m/s velocity so you shouldn't use that with the repeater loadout. You'll definitely take longer to kill the enemies in VHRTs with this loadout but at least you wouldn't have to deal with slow-velocity cannons then.

[@The_Diginaut]

​@@WingZeroType Oh snap, you're right...maybe I was thinking of the Revenant? Which has so little ammo it's basically unusable lol I rarely run ballistics Yeah, I only run repeaters for PvP personally, but for someone who hates aiming with cannons, I could definitely see it being viable.

[@ELIE_FPS]

Totally random question but what is your favorite combat ship for pvp, and your favorite daily driver? Just curious as i'm looking for a good small to medium ship to compliment my BMM as I really dislike the defender. Thanks for the help!

[@WingZeroType]

well i don't really have a "daily driver" so to speak since I mostly just do space combat, but anytime I need to do a short jaunt or summon an instant-expedite ship I always go for the avenger titan. It's really fast, looks great, you can get straight into the cockpit from outside and vice versa, it's easy enough to park, and (like I mentioned) it's an instant cheap expedite so you can summon it everywhere. It's even got a bit of SCU storage and inventory, and a bed if bed logging is your jam. For combat.... it's tough. I don't really have a favorite, but rather I just love flying a variety of ships. I think the vanguard sentinel is the most efficient ship for space combat, hands down, but there are a variety of other ships that are fun to fly. I have recently been flying more light and medium fighters since I was doing a ton of combat in the sentinel to grind back a bunch of ships - the Khartu-al and Blade are really fun b/c they're ultra-ridiculously agile, and the blade even has good dps and is relatively durable. For medium ships, the hornets, bucc, and reliants are all fun for me because they have ridiculously high gimballed dps but you have to watch your shields and disengage when they're getting low since you're a bit slower. The retaliator/eclipse/gladiator bombers are fun for 1-shotting enemies with torpedos but you need to pay for missile restocks or claim the ship (which is what I do) so i take them out every so often since I enjoy missile boats. I know I'm giving you a lot of ships, but it really depends on what I feel like on a given night. Some nights i am tired and i just wanna shoot torpedos for 1-shot KOs, and sometimes I'm feeling more pumped and I don't mind working a bit harder with light fighter combat, maneuvering around the enemies and trying to land fixed fire at high speed. :) Hope that helps, and happy to answer any further questions if you have any!

[@ELIE_FPS]

@@WingZeroType Thanks a lot man, really appreciate it!

[@ELIE_FPS]

@@WingZeroType Also just a side note, but I’m pretty sure you haven’t done (at least in recent times) a pvp combat ship tier list. Just a suggestion, besides that keep up the great work!

[@WingZeroType]

@@ELIE_FPS Thanks so much man, and yeah I've never done a pvp combat tier list because I don't really do pvp combat, so I'm not as knowledgeable about that. I sort of have a vague idea based on just following along with what others are saying but since I don't have any expertise on the topic I'll leave it to the other folks to do that.... for now :D

[@ELIE_FPS]

@@WingZeroType Totally understand that, regardless of what you make just keep up the good work and ppl will still love it!

[@camcelled5555]

How often do you end up using the EMP on the Sentinel? On my Warden I've been running 4 MVSA's and a C-788 on the nose (can disable ship engines and shields fairly well), but I've been thinking of switching to the Sentinel for the EMP and swapping out the C-788 for the AD5B.

[@WingZeroType]

I almost never use the EMP because you only get two weapon groups so I like to have one group for my energy-based weapons and one group for my ballistic weapon. When I was using a fully energy-based loadout I would use the EMP but in 3.17.2 I don't think it's particularly useful. For me personally if I already had a warden I wouldn't bother also buying a sentinel just for the EMP unless I was going to try to do ERTs with it (since for those I think a fully energy-based loadout is more useful since hammerheads are gigantic bullet sponges. That said, I no longer like vanguards for ERTs because the AI is way too responsive and will constantly rotate their weakened shields away from you so it takes forever to kill them unless you can kite them towards you so that their front is constantly facing you.

[@Adiera]

@@WingZeroType you say you don't like the vanguard for ert's , which? The warden or the sentinel? I'm going to go back and see how you changed the weapon group fire again, that's a good tip if you're not using the emp. A lot of the time I have my husband in the turret as well, what would you recommend for those guns?

[@WingZeroType]

@@Adiera I don't love any of the vanguard's for erts, and they all put out the same pilot controlled DPS. The sentinel is the best vanguard imo because it's the lightest and therefore the most agile. The harbinger is a lot heavier but it gets 3xs5 torpedos extra, as well as a tiny bit more damage reduction and s3 hard points for the turret vs the s2 of all the others. Still, I think the sentinel is way stronger. For the turrets I always like to use laser repeaters. They're all the same stats right now dps-wise so i just go with the cheapest ones which are the cf-series ones. As for why I don't like them for ERTs anymore, I've seen that hammerheads do a lot of rotating around to tank your damage with their higher shield faces and they try to protect any lower shield faces from further damage. Since you have to typically strafe around the hammerheads pretty aggressively to avoid their incoming fire it's really difficult to only focus on a single shield face to hit their hull. Plus if you do end up having to disengage you've just set yourself back a bunch of time. Because of this I like ships with more s5 weapons and higher burst dps to try to end the fight faster, like the Connie or potentially even a 600i for kiting the hammerhead. The vanguard's can kit the hammerhead as well but then youve only got 1 s5 weapon doing damage so it can take a while. The advantage of kiting is that they will often (but not always) fly towards you and not rotate the weakened side away, so you can more efficiently get through the shield

[@Adiera]

@@WingZeroType thanks a lot for the detailed and quick reply! I like the sentinel better as well, the hubs has the warden, and I very rarely used the emp. We just spent the last two nights shopping for weapons and I told him shopping is not my thing in game! It's so tedious! See you in the 'verse!

[@WingZeroType]

@@Adiera haha I completely understand that, there's a lot of tedium involved with the game sometimes. I actually like shopping, it's like a mini game to try to figure out the most efficient way to get what I want and get it all to my base of operations:). But yeah, not for everyone. Hopefully in the future it'll be easy to just contract that out to players for a small fee. See you in the verse!

[@kylemiller8527]

How do you remove power from just your Quantum Drive to reduce signature? I can't seem to find an option for just that.

[@WingZeroType]

It's just powering the quantum drive on and off again. There's an issue right now where if you turn off quantum mode before the cooldown of the drive is complete, the drive stays on. So you can just wait until the drive cooldown is done or you can just power the drive off and on again if you still hear the quantum hum

[@harf4ng]

I find combat assistance missions better for money. In space, and if you take high risk ones, sometimes they worth 250k auec. The problem i have with bounties is that rhe vanguard has not enough firepowet for something like a 890 jump (though this is ert not vhrt) and is not that sturdy.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah combat assistance missions are the best for money, i agree. The problem I have is that they're never available for me. Occasionally i'll get a couple on the other side of the system but even when I have unlocked profitable ones they typically show up and are gone before I can accept them

[@harf4ng]

@@WingZeroType​ depends on the server you are on. Change server and they may show up. Or you can access them by accepting them while they show up. Do not wait to accept them in the mission manager. But even on mission manager sometimes I see a lot of missions.

[@apfelimkuchen9551]

The QD sound only turns off if the cooldown is done and you turn off your QD - at least I think :P

[@WingZeroType]

you're the second person to mention that, so you could be right! I'll have to test it a bit more, but that involves doing some warps and timing the cooldown lol. Thanks for the tip though!

[@SandyCheeks1896]

Can’t wait until there more illicit activities to intentionally engage in which will naturally result in more organic PvP bounty hunting. Basically adding pirating mechanics will add a lot of dynamic interactions between the trades. If you’re a miner/trader you’ll want to hire an escort against pirates or work in a large group. Bounty hunters will be the “rock” to the scissors. Right now we have to set out to farm AI, I just can’t wait until most of these things are organic PvP/PtP interactions

[@WingZeroType]

i agree! I'm curious to see what the first iteration of the cargo refactor will bring, if it makes pirating traders more profitable, we might have our first large influx of pirating gameplay (and counter to that - pvp bounty hunting). They just need to find a way to prevent the combat logging so it's worth it for a bounty hunter to chase a pirate

[@ArturoGonzalez-rl6so]

What graphics settings are you running? I see you’ve got a 3080 but with my 3070 I always get terrible frames in atmo

[@WingZeroType]

I'm running the highest settings for pretty much everything, except scattered terrain distance. I'm running 1440p resolution and I've got the game installed on an NVME SSD on the pcie4 bus that's closest to the processor, which should enable maximum performance. Also i have 32GB of fast RAM (and you need to enable XMP in the bios sometimes to get the best performance out of your RAM) so if you haven't done that you should do that too.

[@roguereaper1330]

I found that the quantum drive won't quiet down until the cool down is done.

[@WingZeroType]

ohhh I never considered that - that's a good callout! Thanks!

[@Xaxxus]

is the emp worth it? I dont really like the color scheme of the vanguard sentinel and was considering the warden instead

[@WingZeroType]

I wouldn't say that the EMP is worth it right now, but it's not in it's final form by any means. They're going to re-do distortion at some point and the sentinel might end up losing the EMP for some other form of Electronic Warfare package. If you're buying in-game, I'd say get the Hoplite if you don't like the sentinel color package since it'll save you a bunch of money over the warden. If you're buying with real money, then I'd suggest going with the warden since it's the combat variant and is most likely to keep its current level of firepower as the game continues to get rebalanced.

[@adamu6941]

on planets its easy, i can do ERTs alone with my Warden just by focus the main target being far, but on asteroid ones its another story it's always an asteroid that blows me up!

[@WingZeroType]

How do you manage the wingmen that will oftentimes hang around the hammerhead for the ERT missions. I've found in a bunch of missions that I have struggled to get the hammerhead away from the wingmen, so I end up having to kill the wingmen before the hammerhead if I want to try to kite the hammerhead by staying out of it's range. If I don't kill the wingmen first they'll chew me to pieces before my single s5 weapon can chew through the hammerhead's shield and hull.

[@adamu6941]

@@WingZeroType sorry i confused with VHRT's ! Not already done with Hammerhead, so, yes but not alone ;)

[@WingZeroType]

@@adamu6941 ahhh ok that makes a lot more sense then :). But honestly swapping between group VHRTs and group HRTs lets you make 800k in 2 hours? That's PRETTY DANG GOOD lol.

[@TangoDelta42]

Is the EMP still usefull? Last time I tried it, it looked nice but even smaller targets showed no effect.

[@WingZeroType]

Yes it can be, for it to be effective you have to get the enemy's shields down first and then fire the EMP within range of the enemy. It can be tricky to time since EMPs take about 1-2s after they're triggered to actually fire and since you need to be within 1k of the enemy (depending on which ship's EMP you're using) its tricky to use effectively. But if you do it right you can definitely disable enemy ships, or systems of enemy ships for a few seconds.

[@shawnc5188]

Reckon if you aren’t using the range advantage of S5 weapons, and AD5Bs are highly inaccurate at range, would gimballed AD4B be more effective, as you’ll land more hits?

[@WingZeroType]

Nah I personally don't find gimballed cannons too effective, and the dps difference between a S5 and a S4 cannon is MASSIVE. The S5 AD5B does 54% more dps than the S4 AD4B, and even if we were going to say that the gimbals make up for that damage decrease, another major factor is the amount of ammunition that they can carry. A full ammo load for the AD5B is 253k damage, whereas the AD4B only carries 72k (less than 1/3). So I'd need to be significantly stingier with the trigger or need to reload more often. And the S2 guns in the nose of the vanguard don't gimbal, I believe so you'd have mixed pips which gets tricky to aim.

[@shawnc5188]

@@WingZeroType thanks for the detailed info!!

[@jameswilson4436]

I thought distortion weapons didn't work this patch, or at least they changed the drastically?

[@WingZeroType]

They do work, but they're not nearly as powerful as they were in the 3.16 patches. In 3.16 they were ridiculously powerful and even hardened military ships got completely shut down after getting a few hits of distortion. That was clearly way too OP. So they were tuned down a lot (perhap a bit too much). I haven't seen a ton of use out of distortion repeaters but the EVSD cannons in the nose of the Vanguard do still shut down hurricanes. You can see twice in the video that hurricanes were disabled by the EVSDs and just start drifting off aimless and not firing back, and you can see on the targetting MFD that their EM signature starts dropping b/c their systems are shutting down. Since the Hurricane is a relatively small and faster VHRT target, I think it's worth the damage loss against Valkyries and Wardens to make the hurricane an easier kill with the slow-projectile-speed cannons, but I think it's totally valid to go with 4xMVSA cannons as well if folks want to.

[@mrniffels]

How do you know where to shoot without the little circle thing ? You hit like almost every shot so how do u do it, magic man

[@WingZeroType]

So I use a system called Lag PIP (predicted impact point). By default the game uses lead pip so you point your crosshair at the reticule off in space. With Lag pip, you point your crosshair in the same location, but the goal is to make the reticule land on the target. You can change this option in the game settings by changing the default targeting method from lead pip to lag pip and you'll have the same system. I really prefer this way of targeting since i focus more on my target and i can see exactly where on my enemy the shots would land.

[@mrniffels]

@@WingZeroType oh I see that makes kinda sense :) thanks

[@nightdevil6666]

wait how do you have 2k rounds of balistics????? I thought they made balistics like 200rnds?

[@WingZeroType]

So all ballistic weapons that shoot ammo at repeater speeds (1400m/s) can only fire for about 16 seconds before running dry. Ballistic weapons that can shoot projectiles at cannon speeds (700m/s) typically are much more efficient, having around 1 minute of firing time. The size 5 ballistic AD5B is a "ballistic gatling" that shoots rounds out at the 700m/s cannon speeds but has 2 minutes of firing time! So it's the balistic of choice to use when you have a size 5 hardpoint.

[@artisticminds4337]

Lol I am using Drake corsair right now,. Currently doing MRT and haven't got to VHRT yet. But so far its very easy for my drake corsair to take anyone down... ahaha

[@WingZeroType]

yeah it's got a ton of firepower for sure, but right now in 3.18 i fear for its survivability since it's engines don't have a lot of hp, but hopefully they sort that out soon!

[@artisticminds4337]

@@WingZeroType I actually found drake corsair to be very fragile. If you get hit by any missiles or such you star losing your thrusters and that leads to Torque imbalance and lose control of ship. So I decided to go with Vanguard Sentinel and do VHRT and group VHRT missions which gives me 80K+ in very short time. I think that's the best money maker in game.

[@WingZeroType]

@@artisticminds4337 yep the vanguards are really really good, and so are the torpedo boats (retaliator and eclipse) since they can do group ERTs with ease. And yeah the Corsair is sadly very fragile right now but they've buffed the maneuvering thrusters in 3.19.1 so hopefully its much more usable

[@mmmdawe]

could you explain how do you aim? your lead indicator is in completely different place than your crosshair and your shots still land on target, i don't get that

[@WingZeroType]

ah yes, so there's two types of indicators in the game. The one that you're probably used to is the default one and is called lead PIP (predicted impact point). I've changed mine to Lag PIP, which means I aim my crosshairs with the goal of getting the targeting reticule to land on the target. The lag PIP shows you the point on your target where your shots will land based on how you and the target are currently maneuvering, and I prefer that because with lead PIP I'm usually focusing on a random spot in space but with lag pip I'm focusing on the target itself, which I prefer so that I can see when they're changing direction. It also lets me see when my shots might still catch the edge of a target even if the targeting reticule doesn't turn green, since that only happens when you've lined up your shots perfectly to hit center mass. I have a bit more information about it in this video, including a few other settings that I've changed if you're curious (see the timestamps): kzbin.info/www/bejne/f6WloGWjbZalhJY

[@mmmdawe]

@@WingZeroType thank you very much, subbed ^^

[@WingZeroType]

@@mmmdawe Thanks! I hope you enjoy the rest of the videos too!

[@fuqua626]

So is that ballistic weapon worth using for bounties over the laser cannons?

[@WingZeroType]

in the previous patch I would've said yes but with the changes that came to ballistic penetration and ballistic resistance I'd say not anymore. Now I just use a full laser cannon build and it still does great. Ballistics feel really underwhelming currently.

[@fuqua626]

@WingZeroType it feels like they do a ton to me lol had some good time yesterday to fly and some battles i had to dip

[@WingZeroType]

@@fuqua626 interesting, I've definitely had them feel less powerful than they did before. And my time to kill is pretty similar to laser weapons against VHRTs, so I go with lasers for the benefit of never needing to reload.

[@fuqua626]

@WingZeroType i have a laser cannon distortion hybrid and for one on one it does great but the moment its 3 on one or more im getting destroyed. Im not sure what happened this morning but the whole left side of my warden was gone in an instant. Im also struggling with mobility to track targets like the cutty and freelancer

[@WingZeroType]

@@fuqua626 The bounty hunting is much more server-dependent now than it was before. Sometimes you'll get servers where the AI is very responsive and then they really don't miss their shots, so it becomes very challenging in an outnumbered situation. On those servers, tankier ships with higher dps seem to fare better for me (e.g. constellations)

[@snowdoll3778]

sadly i cant hit anything. watching you is like magic

[@WingZeroType]

ah that's a bummer, but there's a few quick things you can check to see if it can help you out. 1. are you using cannons or repeaters? cannons are harder to aim b/c their projectiles travel slower so if you're really struggling with them you can use repeaters instead. it's lower potential damage but can be much more consistent 2. make sure that you don't just keep flying straight towards your enemy, try to be strafing around them if possible 3. set your speed limiter to your scm speed when you enter combat to help you maneuver more adeptly 4. you can try using a ship with gimbals if none of these things are working for you. Some really good ship options with a gimballed loadout are the arrow, mustang, freelancer MIS, buccaneer, hornet, reliant, and even the constellation series of ships. happy to help any way i can! if you want to upload a video of your combat i can try to see if i can see what's going wrong :)

[@kipwings]

This is my fave ship. Its a cash cow.

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah mine too, I love the vanguard and I think it gets even better in 3.18 due to the ballistic damage penetration changes and the fact that the vanguard is a tanky ship :)

[@tomconroy5670]

How do you unlock group vhrts? got vhrts unlocked, also use the sentinal pretty awesome ship.

[@UnpluggedCordTTV]

I believe it's via northrock service group you should eventually get a contract for "pro term contract" once your bounty hunter rep gets high enough, they might only be in crusader so I'm not sure if it's advocacy rep or specifically cru bounty rep

[@WingZeroType]

Yep just like Jesse said it's the north rock service group that'll give you a certification mission - typically available in crusader space (but might also be available in hurston space). Once you've done the certification mission you'll get the group bounties available in the same difficulties that you get the regular bounties, so once you do the certification mission you'll get group VHRTs available. The thing to note about the reps is that the difficulty of group bounty that's available is based on your bounty hunter's guild reputation, but the bonus payouts (up to 20%) is based on your reputation with the northrock service group.

[@tomconroy5670]

@@WingZeroType @WingZeroType i can't seem to get any North rock bounties to level my rep, is there a opening quest rot them? Only certs i have is suspect apprehension cert which is a pvp one. Is that the one i need to do?

[@WingZeroType]

@@tomconroy5670 no it's not the suspect apprehension one, that's pvp like you mentioned. Have you tried getting the northrock quest in crusader space? It should show up in the bounty hunting tab so you're looking in the right place in the contracts manager, but sometimes the cert quest only shows up in crusader space.

[@tomconroy5670]

@@WingZeroType Nothing, unfortunately did 5 vhrt around crusader. I don't have any black rock rep at all which might be the problem, just can't see any quests that will get me going with them. Thanks for replying and helping!

[@calpin_dk]

Great video, going to try the EVSD's on my Harbinger. The Combat Service Beacons have only popped up for me around Microtech. I'm not sure if this is intentional or a bug. Keep up the good work :)

[@RoxxSerm]

Its neither intentional nor a bug. Its "bad design". The service beacons spawn with a certain rate and distribution ( from low risk to extreme risk ) for the entire server, distributed over regions. Their spawnrate isnt adjusted properly to 100 players though. Way too less spawn. And way too many of useless Low risk ones, or undoable / non-solo viable extreme ones. A hotfix is in the works to spawn more and more mid-tier ones. In my opinion the big flaw of them is that they are serverbound, not specifically spawned for the player. I.E personal missions. While it makes sense overall how they are now, for testing purposes in the alpha star citizen is, personalized service beacons would make much more sense and would be way easier to balance in terms of monetary income and difficulty.

[@WingZeroType]

Thank you, I appreciate the kind words! I've seen them in a few different places, like Crusader, Hurston, microTech, and even some of the L1 and L2s. So I think they *can* spawn everywhere but right now they're tuned to spawn too infrequently for how many people want to try out the new system. And the fact that we all compete for the same missions is just poorly designed since most of the times you try to accept a mission it just fails to accept because someone beat you to it.

[@WingZeroType]

I completely agree RoxxSerm, this is the same feedback I gave in the spectrum feedback thread (that they should have their spawn rate determined by quantum and then once spawned, should be unique to the player so that we don't have the issue where you try to get a mission and someone else already took it).

[@tonyjoel7910]

What bounty hunter rank do you start to get group bounties?

[@WingZeroType]

I first see the certification mission at MRT level. I typically see it in crusader space and it's listed as a north rock service group trial contract, if I'm not mistaken.group bounties only spawn in crusader and Hurston space but I've always seen the trial contract in crusader space. Once you complete the trial you should see group bounties in both crusader and Hurston space and they'll be offered up to the difficulty of your bounty hunter guild reputation allows.

[@tonyjoel7910]

@@WingZeroType awesome thank you!

[@genericbritishdude]

I kinda need help doing this, I don't have access to Group VHRT's yet I can do ERT's. I also havent received any missions to unlock the Group VHRT's, am I missing something?

[@WingZeroType]

So I get my certification missions to unlock the group missions in crusader space. Some servers are buggy though and don't show the group missions (rarely, but it does happen) and also sometimes it just takes a few mins before missions populate. So if youve been in crusader space for a few mins and you still don't see a north rock service group trial contract then maybe try swapping servers. Group bounties also spawn in Hurston space but I've typically done my trial contract in crusader space

[@genericbritishdude]

@@WingZeroType I think I might just have to character reset, I have been trying to get the ProTem mission for 3 days and It just never pops up, I've maxed the crusader security rep and bounty hunter rep. My friend got the ProTem mission before me and he only got VHRT's yesterday.

[@WingZeroType]

@@genericbritishdude damn sorry that sucks. I'm not aware of that bug, but hopefully a reset can fix it

[@airleclair]

Is your reticle leading or lagging?

[@WingZeroType]

I use the lag pip, so I want to make the reticule overlap with my target since its showing me where my shots are going to go based on my movement and my target's movement. I'm a big fan of it, so I'd recommend trying it out if you haven't! Many people prefer it!

[@Ghostoflonestar]

Question, u dont use the box to shoot your target but still hit your target im just a little confused

[@WingZeroType]

The aiming mode that I'm using is called "Lag PIP" which is something you can manually set. "Lead PIP" is the aiming mode that's on by default. You can change them in game by changing the default targeting reticule option in the gameplay settings (first options menu when you go to settings) or by setting a key to toggle between the two modes under "Flight - Targeting/Switch Flight Lead / Lag Reticle (Toggle)" in your advanced keybinds. some notes about the two: - Lead PIP's reticule shows you where you should fire your shot so that it will hit the targeted enemy based on how you and the target are currently moving. In this situation, your eyes are likely looking at the targeting reticle which is in front of the enemy. - Lag PIP makes the reticule show you where your shot will land based on how you and the target are currently moving (it can still miss if the target changes speed/direction after you've fired the shot, same as with lead PIP). In this situation, your goal is to place the reticule on top of the enemy's ship since that's where you want the shot to land. Because of this, your eyes are likely looking at the enemy ship since thats where you're trying to place the reticule, which makes it so that you can better predict and respond to the enemy's actions like turning or changing direction. - I also prefer lag PIP because with the lead PIP, the targeting indicator only goes green when you're lined up to perfectly hit the target in their center of mass. But with lag PIP, you can see when you're not hitting exactly in the center but you're still going to catch the edge of the target and do damage so you can better decide when it's worth it to shoot or not.

[@Ghostoflonestar]

@@WingZeroType dang ima have to look into that man thank you for showing me this I appreciate it

[@WingZeroType]

@@Ghostoflonestar you're very welcome! And yeah try it out! it takes a bit of getting used to but it's so much better IMO!

[@Ghostoflonestar]

@@WingZeroType def will hopefully new update happens soon tired of waiting lol bugs need to be fixed

[@fredjones2841]

Someone needs a Tobi... You would be able to see all the screens and more.

[@WingZeroType]

haha yeah i know, but i won't want to use it because most people don't have one so my videos and tips are more relevant for most players if I'm not using one. I might still change my mind down the road though lol

[@dragonchild_SC]

@@WingZeroType Please do not. I really appreciate that you care about us "normal" players. When I see your videos they are very useful. I think "I could do the same" (if I were a better pilot ;-) But if you use additional hardware it will become irrelevant for players like me, because then I know, I cannot do the same.

[@WingZeroType]

@@dragonchild_SC Yeah that's kind of what I was thinking too! Eye tracking really does seem cool but I agree, it's a pricy piece of hardware and most folks won't have it. And since I'm not pvping, it's not really necessary (just a very nice upgrade lol). Like I said, I might end up getting it eventually just to have the experience myself but I wouldn't be using it for any instructional purposes.

[@coolsheet420]

if you only had 1.1 million auec to spend ..... what's your next fav ship for VHRT ??

[@WingZeroType]

ooo that's a tricky one. I'd probably go Arrow or Gladius in that case. They're both really good - the arrow is slightly smaller with smaller shields but higher dps, and the gladius is a tiny bit larger and with twice the shields of the arrow but lower dps. Honestly, you can't go wrong with either of those. The arrow is slightly cheaper though at 972,300 vs the 1,169,900 of the Gladius. I'd recommend using the fits that I linked in the google doc in the video description as well. The arrow has a really solid fully gimballed loadout where I prefer going fixed for the gladius (but you could do fix/gimballed for either - up to you).

[@raknruin8101]

Try reshade there is a setting in there that can give you night vision for the dark side of moons

[@WingZeroType]

Thanks! I have heard of this but I didn't want to screw around with it too much because I wanted it to be more representative for what most folks would be using. It's also the reason why I haven't gotten into any head-tracking since I think it's another really big advantage that most folks won't have.

[@piedpiper1172]

@@WingZeroType Head tracking can be achieved for ~$60 USD: - EBay PS3 Eye tracker - Amazon a 25mm 850nm IR filter - Amazon any third party TrackIR headset I think if people know this option exists they will be more likely to get it.

[@WingZeroType]

@@piedpiper1172 yeah and can't you even do it with a webcam? or is that not nearly as accurate?

[@piedpiper1172]

@@WingZeroType I haven’t tried with the built in webcam only as I play on an HTPC set up and am way too far from my screen (~8 ft). I have to use IR. That said, everything I saw on it said it’s just not terribly responsive unless you have a high fps webcam. But by then you’ve already kinda spent to get started so may as well do a proper set up

[@obiwonton369]

Infotainment o7

[@WingZeroType]

haha thank you!

[@Smarglenargle]

how do you get vhrts? i've never seen them before.

[@WingZeroType]

So you need to do bounties over and over until you get your bounty hunter's guild reputation high enough. You find out your reputation in the last tab of the mobiglass called the "Delphi". After you level up your reputation you'll get certification missions where you pay a small fee and kill a target somewhere in the verse and that unlocks that tier of difficulty for you everywhere else. The grind from HRTs to VHRTs is a very long one though, so if you're seeing HRTs over and over you might just need more reputation. If you're in microTech space, the VHRT mission is also called an HRT, but the payout is higher and the spawns are actually VHRT-level

[@iiiBag_qc]

when I bounty hunt I can't quantum to the target location why ?

[@WingZeroType]

hey so it could be two things: 1. if you are in quantum mode when you grab a mission, you might need to exit the quantum mode and restart it to be able to quantum to that target location. 2. Group bounties (MRTs, HRTs, VHRTs, ERTs) are the only ones that are guaranteed to have a quantum marker near the target location. If you are only doing the single bounties, then it's possible that you have no quantum marker at the target location, and you have to fly the remaining distance from the closest quantum marker. One thing you can do is try to quantum in a line nearby the target location and hit U to power off the ship when you're close to the target in that case and it can sometimes land you a bit closer. Press U to power the ship back on after.

[@sleestackk]

The EMP works exceedingly well on NPC ships..

[@WingZeroType]

responded to your other comment mate, thanks for the feedback though! I agree it works well but i prefer being able to fire the ballistics and lasers separately.

[@Alecks1990]

how do you get to those good missions, i can only get like 17,5k vhrt

[@WingZeroType]

so the 17.5k VHRTs is what I'm doing, but I have maxed out my crusader security reputation which gives an additional 20% payout on top of the base payout. So 17.5k + 20% = 21k, and then the call to arms bonus pays an additional 500-1k per target which gives 22k per single VHRT. For the Group missions that pay around 75k, you can only get them in crusader space or hurston space, and you need to do the northrock group certification mission. Once you complete that cert, you'll get group bounties up to the difficulty that you've unlocked via your bounty hunter's guild reputation. So if you're getting regular VHRTs you'll also get group VHRTs available to you. They pay 62.5k by default but they'll pay up to 20% bonus based on your northrock service group reputation, which is how I'm getting 74.5k per group bounty.

[@Alecks1990]

@@WingZeroType Thanks!

[@adamu6941]

I just realize i only have HRT... do you remember how to unlock VHRT ?

[@WingZeroType]

You need to do a lot of single HRT missions to level up your bounty hunter's guild reputation until you get another certification mission that will unlock the next level of difficulty. It can be a bit of a grind though, so stick with it! You can check your progress in the mobiglass on the last tab (the Delphi tab) and check your reputation with the bounty hunter's guild.

[@adamu6941]

@@WingZeroType yes thanks dude 😉

[@gmlviper]

If only I could be lucky enough to actually stay online for 1 hour.... That 30k error is kicking my ass.... I have an Sentinel as well and is pretty much an walk in a park with it at VHRT's but damn this game is buggy...

[@WingZeroType]

Yeah the game is definitely buggy but I haven't had too many issues with 30ks in the current 3.17.2 patch. Sorry that you're getting so unlucky with it, might have to do with the different times that we play