Star Citizen All New Features Coming in 4.0 But Skips Hyping Next Year

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

They also need to bring BACK what made Pyro dangerous, and what gave the location it's name, the flares, the unstable Sun doing it's thing. and put the Rings back around Pryo 4

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Hope we see those quickly

[@Power5]

Pyro is a big item in the patch. And we get cows with egg sacks... Not having the solar flares is probably the biggest let down for me. Those looked like a very interesting game play complication. And with Pyro becoming basically just another stanton with so many breathable planets with outposts and refueling stations, the solar flares would have been a huge danger event to need to plan around. I mean 10:00 just looks like a regular star. Could have at least kept the VFX of the unstable star even if you took out the flares having any physical impact. 2:08 yeah, punching a guy in a helmet would not be likely to end in that result though. More likely the puncher would be going to the medbed with a broken hand. 5:33 ummm, they have had like 6 years since Pyro was announced to come up with assets for unique asteroid bases. Same problem with underground bunkers and DCs. Not sure how space stations and LZs are able to be differentiated but some places are just copy paste. 20:40 except I thought that due to the design, you cannot load full cargo capacity. Gotta have someone hold up top layer and place bottom layer on then set top layer back down. 22:33 I am so confused with this ship now. Where would the interior be? I see no access behind the pilot seat. I am starting to think that CIG has decided that no fighters will have interiors anymore and the vanguard is just grandfathered in. I hope I am wrong but I cannot figure out where an interior or access to an interior would be. And 23:41 you mean like the little fury has 1 gun on each wing. Could have given this 4x s4 instead of s5s and it would make more sense having those pylons besides rule of cool.

[@Alias_Reign]

Missions are definitely going to be key to the games future success. Missions allow the players to interact with the underlying framework and with enough variation that changes the flavour of the locations based on the things the player is tasked with doing. The mission types we currently have, reskinned and retrofitted to new locations aren’t enough to change the feel of the game. We need more variety and missions that link directly to other mission forming mini quest lines at this point in development. Missions that require you to jump system or require you to raid multiple areas in a given system. Things like save Stanton but running all the time across systems.

[@jamaelhil4014]

8:00 I feel like their marketing strategy works best when they relay what's possible in the presented iteration of the game, so in this case the combat aspect of CZs is pretty well communicated in terms of what these locations will be used for in the immediate future. Then, as we get more mechanics to facilitate exploration gameplay, those will be added to the CZs as well and then we'll see more of that driven home in these videos.

[@AlexandreParchomenko]

Oh, so the Mirai Guardian only has two S5 guns ? They're big but I was expecting 4 guns, one on each pilar/wings, like a TIE interceptor. Maybe it will be a variant. Does it at least have an interior ? 23:53 I would bet the reason is them trying to make a point, maybe out of spite, that it's not just a fat Fury.

[@Viktoria_Thaelin]

18:30 that's a size 6 gun, which hasn't been available till now, and power plants/ coolers are crazy expensive around 150-200k for grade As 21:00 blast shields should "help" against bullets penetrating windows and killing you in pilot seat seeing as ballistics are going to be penetrating hull

[@gattsuru]

The current prices for the Omnisky on live are 18k (s3), 41k (s4), 59k (s5), 110k (s6), so the teaser's numbers would be about 4xish increase on the low end, and a 8xish for the mid-range. Which is probably about right --- gun upgrades make the biggest immediate difference in gameplay, and right now are kinda so cheap that you just always want the top-tiers right away. And they're the most readily-salvaged parts, so for new players being encouraged to pull some S2 or S3 guns from a bounty is a good encouragement. (though I'd expect they sell for closer to 5% of their buy values) Interestingly, some, though not all, of the power plants and coolers are /cheaper/ than on live: the Durango is 430k on live, and the Dilligence is 74k. I like the rough direction, especially if we might end up having to repair or replace those parts when engineering comes down, but it does leave me a little worried about credit inflation. That said, I also I dunno how much to take the numbers in a teaser, though. The extreme mission count probably just reflects someone with debug on or all reputation programmatically maxed, for example.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

Ooooo boy things might be getting interesting!

[@daveg1701]

Video is proof CIG still knows there’s a 400i in game. Please give me a reason to fly it.

[@senn4237]

I saw someone mention they should add med beds to the climate controlled rooms since they are wasted space now. Give the 400i an advantage, considering it sucks at everything else.

[@danyhocine]

@@senn4237 I am glad more people think like that, I have been dreaming about a med bed in the 400i for such a long time. The argument is perfect too, considering it should be competing with the Corsair... at least give it something to actually compete with

[@commanderdark7396]

I guess not buying origin ships would help it out a lot. You since they weren’t designed to be anything but a flex for how much money you have.

[@bighorn6964]

Hell no. It even has shields still. Pls cig remove that also and while ur at it remove its fuel tank as well XD

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

​@@commanderdark7396 Actually, some people like their designs. The only ones I've liked were the original 300 series before its first redesign, and I really hate the 400i style, but until they removed the component redundancy it was the closest to what I wanted for a daily driver, with range, a fair bit of speed, an armory with suit lockers, the option for multicrew without requiring it, and pretty good shields and hull strength (especially compared to the MSR, prior to the component rebalance that screwed the 400i and finally have the MSR decent shields for its size).

[@VFW-Mayer]

Server Load Balancing by Dynamic Server startup and server boundary changing. All Servers have a max before they start to have issues with too many players. They have hard caps exactly because of this. This game needs its servers to find that hard cap before server fps/tick/hz is reduced. Then you simply start up another server and split an area between 2 servers so they are not struggling with the playercount. If 1 server can handle 100 players, then if 300 players are inside a station, You would need 3 servers of resources to cover that station with overlapping domains meshed. You might even need 1 server for 1 room with seamless transition between servers. If that is not possible, then it will not work and be laggy. Server to Server latency on top of your client to server latency does stack and can easily be a huge issue. If a server is hosting 1 room then its dedicated performance would change because a hangar server does not need ore mining services running, and other services you do not need in a hangar. Server Meshing is INSTANCE MESHING lots of instances together with transition boundaries. When its working, you will not even notice.

[@lassikinnunen]

Hows that to work outside? Its not an infinitely scalable idea in realtime. Eve has their solutions but that has limitations and slowing time is a smaller problem in eve. The technology if it worked would be immensely valuable for other games and metaverses, but its questionable if anyone over there knows how to make it

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Reason for putting two guns between the wings instead of four smaller guns on the wingtips of a ship with that look, a ball cockpit, and twin engines in the back: starts with a D and ends with something that rhymes with "Bizknee".

[@805Peej]

Changing Pyro from a fire-ravaged wasteland to Stanton but big still bums me out

[@Bourbon_Gaming]

I don't think they have added the new terrian traversal systems yet like vault and manteling that might help with moving through the old caves and climbing

[@zarlorz]

I've said before, regarding the blast shields on the Carrack, that it doesn't necessarily matter that there is still glass left open in the front for multiple reasons. Perhaps it's a "dose" factor, such that the amount of radiation'/hazard coming through the small opening isn't enough to be a problem unlike having all of that area open. Or it could be that the glass in the front is different (thicker, or a different "transparent aluminum" material or whatever) that provides full protection but is just vastly more expensive than the glass used on the rest of the windows, and thus it wouldn't be practical to use it everywhere, but you can use it in a situation like that. There's a whole host of reasons like that which can be used to very easily explain away the whole "there's still unshielded 'glass'" complaint. Also it's worth noting on the cargo doors opening that it's nice that they do that but it only provides partial access in practical terms. The opening is really just too small and too high for easy loading/unloading without at least using a 2nd person. Presumably they will drop down, elevator style like, say, the Connies do, as they did say that the current opening is not their final plan for that (no doubt the elevator part would need a lot more work.) Still, just worth nothing that it's a nice and needed change, but a still very incomplete one in terms of providing full cargo functionality for the Carrick.

[@senn4237]

I'm not a fan of the blast shields as well. What about all the other cockpits with windows? Did Anvil just skimp out on their glass and get the sub par stuff?

[@zarlorz]

@@senn4237 No, that's not what I meant. My response was to SpaceTomato saying "what about that glass", essentially, and my point is that the littel bit of glass that is not covered by the blast shield isn't a big deal in the sense that it can easily be justified in lore as to why it can get away with not being covered. So my point is that it could be a special, probably very expensive, piece of glass (or some other transparent material) that has at least some resistance to whatever radiation the rest of the shielding keeps out. As to why other ships don't have that "special glass" or blast shielding, that's also a part of Lore, though, because the Carrack is built specifically for that kind of potentially hazardous exploration so it was always sold as having that. And, yeah, every manufacturer probably "skimps" on getting the resistant "glass" because it's probably ridiculously expensive, so it's not really "skimping", per se, it's just basic economics for what can reasonably done. Really it's just a way to say there are many ways to "justify" why there is little bit of glass and why it's not everywhere and, thus, the need for the blast shield. It doesn't otherwise bother me.

[@cygnus6623]

I hope personal weapon ammo drops down to realistic. 300 to 500+ per mag is WAY to high! I got 10 mags to go do bunker missions for $4k, another few med-pens and I'm 5k into a 10k mission. Not sure what they are thinking with that...

[@boukm3n]

$4K for ammo???!??

[@sennemaa59769]

Missin pay outs has been balanced and are way higher.

[@countrycraftscustomwoodworking]

for those cave systems, if they added little mini jump packs to light to medium armor that could give you a little boost to help with the geometry issues. and for those of us chunky bois in the heavy armor having a hard time trying to climb up the janky geometry well that could just be attributed to the fact that we have 300 pounds of armor on us. An easy work around until they have the time to fix edge detection and such.

[@bperras]

The 890k UEC gun is a Size-6. Nothing in-game currently uses a size 6 weapon. The Kraken is supposed to have some but that's it. Everything else uses either size 5 or size 7 that we know about.

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Well, the Polaris does. Yeah, I know, it can't be switched out now. It's still an s6. :-p

[@bjordan429]

The Advanced MFDs and the step back from MM were the only wholly positive announcements this year; I dont think they'll do a year in review to remind everyone of the fires. 2:33 - ..but isnt bringing performance increases. however is making cities more cinematic; as my performance in cities has dropped from 60+@1440p to the cinematic full HD 1080p at 24FPS. Thanks, Chris! 3:00 - Man, cant wait to try jumppoints. I finally was able to reach one without being softlocked the other night, but FPS dropped to 0.2 when I looked at it. Thanks, Chris. (Yes, I have a good PC. 3.22.x I maintained FPS above 110 with reference clouds.) 15:26 - I wonder if you will find their nests in your ship internals and them chewing on your main wiring harness. I wonder if they'll jump into moving parts for warmth causing replacement; or die in corner requiring disassembly of your ship or just smell horrible. 18:20 - they sell for 10% the value. I think they worry people will just commit insurance fraud, so they throw the baby out with the bathwater. I actually wont mind too much when I can store things better in hangars as a kind of shop, and run a trade at a better value. I'll buy at 30% from player (triple), and sell for 60% the store price. 20:42 - I think Jared meant "half-animation"...they still dont reach the ground. But really happy that the Carrack got so much love. I hope the shields resist the solar flares. 22:45 - That actually ~does look pretty awesome. Great video as always, though.

[@hamiltonbrown9591]

They’ve also talked about instanced areas which could allow for exploration in some of these same PVP areas. Might still be PVE though

[@4jup4ter4]

@9:45 sadly that's what the majority thinks. So these types of players are litteraly going around and purposfly blowing landed ships up, landing and then camping in hopes of sniping the victim. Thaty happened to me several times in the pasty couple day's lol

[@senn4237]

This is why I'm not even attempting to go to Pyro. I don't find that gameplay remotely fun. Based on community sentiment, that means I'm a "carebear" and shouldn't experience the one new system in 12 years.

[@SpaceTomatoToo]

It very well may be that we have to wait for the novelty of the system to wear off. Maybe we need reputation to start enforcing some rules from the AI gangs, or we need a couple more system to balance it out. Who knows!

[@Halrin]

Yeah even in a lawless system the reputation system should moderate behaviour to some degree. If you mess around in gang territory you should lose rep and lose access to their stations etc.

[@JohnnyMachiavelli]

The surprise (at least for CIG) is going to be the backlash pyro brings.

[@Jimill]

Quantum boost PLEASE! Dropping that into the game will be instant exploration gameplay update.

[@fnunez]

It's only the 12th, maybe next week Jared will have a special looking back at 2024 show.

[@Alias_Reign]

The rumoured 2 size 5s and on a heavy fighter is underwhelming, especially if the turn rate and everything else is as stated. I don’t see the Mirai filling a role that isn’t already done better by other ships.

[@2face-w9r]

Are contested zones instanced? Or are they locations in stations or on a planet? Is it a mission you need to accept or just go there?

[@fnunez]

Wasn't the guardian supposed to have 4 guns?

[@AccidentalFriendlyFire]

Aside from speculation prior to datamining I'm unaware of anyone saying it had four guns.

[@btoiscool]

exploration gameplay has never once excluded combat though

[@themidnightbard8390]

blast shields prevent players from seeing bugs

[@diva.3641]

the rats are the most interesting part imo 😮

[@piranhax6466]

the guardian needs 2x swize 2 shields or its dead in the water.. every other heavy fighter will molly womp it..

[@SOGBulldog]

The Guardian could be a problem with for my wallet. It looks fantastic.

[@scottmurphys]

"...unlike a tomato." To which I say, "feed me Seymour!"

[@MSFTJustice]

2024 THE WATER SHED YEAR....

[@lesteratterberry]

Atta..attack of the killer tomato 😂

[@Angelo_Nicolson]

I'm really intrigued by the Guardian. Its the closest thing to a MISC fighter I can get.

[@Viktoria_Thaelin]

no interest in pyro but man, everything there feels so much more real than stanton... and the terminal/elevator sounds effects are so much cooler than stanton

[@Damiv]

Contested zones are nothing but a greifer paradise unless you have enough people to swarm them. Hard pass.

[@Halrin]

What I love about the game expanding to a lawless system is they can start making systems feel different and cater to different players. You're absolutely correct to choose to not play contested zones if PvP doesn't appeal. For me it looks like a fun challenge to try out with a few friends, like a raid in tarkov. I won't do it all the time, but it's cool I can now have a more chill time in Stanton or mix it up in pyro. I'll always know what I'm getting into.

[@elementsk8r1717]

Still no release date smh

[@flamebreaker7318]

Hey would get sued that’s where the tie intercepter guns are it’s already too similar lol

[@kelleylafitte6503]

This year feels like is was just CIG raking up money from all the 2023 hype; like this year was just a cash-cow year to see how many people would continue to dump money into the project with little to show for it. PU is still basically unplayable, (between "screens" not working when you walk up to them, falling through the map randomly, server crashes, multiple updates that make decorating your hangar basically useless since it'll have to be redone in a week, etc...), and, to me at least, dropping one of the ugliest and most bland ships I have ever seen in the Intrepid. Don't even get me started about how they upsized the Prospy and gave it an objectively terrible name (MISC Fortune/ Misfortune).

[@jonathaneskew9878]

"little to show for it" i mean we got successful server meshing tests this year? arguably the largest part of the entire game was shown functioning and being quickly refined up to more than 1000 players? 4.0 confirmed before end of year?

[@fwdcnorac8574]

On one hand you say this year was a "cash cow" while CIG "rakes in money". On the other hand people say CIG is broke and nobody plays anymore. I can't accept anything anybody says about this game. You might as well just piss in the wind and see what direction it's blowing in. Opinions are so wildly in opposition it's pointless to read the comment section.

[@kelleylafitte6503]

@@jonathaneskew9878 Have you played the PU lately? Like this week, even? If you haven't learned by now that it's all hype until it's actually delivered then I wonder how long you've actually had the game. We're nearly halfway through Dec and the PTU builds are nowhere near ready.

[@kelleylafitte6503]

@@fwdcnorac8574 On that, I agree. They hyped the Zeus for how long? We were getting all these "detail pass"-type presentations about how thorough and intricate everything was, then they crank out the Intrepid out of nowhere. It's all hype and hyperbole until it's actually in the game. The PU is still in a sad state and has been since early October

[@jonathaneskew9878]

@@kelleylafitte6503 would you prefer they spend hundreds of man hours fixing a non server meshed build that none of us will ever see again? That work goes nowhere. Ive been following the project since 2017 and i know the drill. Much more tangible progress was made this year in terms of the most important back end parts of the game that are less visible to players so people feel let down. The intrepid was clearly an intern training ship that no one will care about.

[@reamoinmcdonachadh9519]

Not if yer a Non Vegan Tomato!! LoL

[@RicoZaid_]

o7

[@madhatter241]

4.0 is the Star Citizen Event Horizon. Buckle up Flash. We are going in!

[@David-82]

o7