Star Citizen | Behind The Ships: MISC Fortune

[@FelixEnder]

1:28 "two salvage stations working together is a new thing to us"... Reclaimer: am i a joke to you?

[@Mor4me]

Good point.

[@fradinryth]

2 Astronauts meme: It always has been. ;)

[@bomkata]

reclaimer is the red headed step child

[@BigBobBlazer]

They just say whatever sounds flashy or dramatic. They're trying to hype it up so it sells. I'm not sure what delusional backer would think any of this is new or different.

[@horsthorstensen1277]

"Reclaimer: am i a joke to you?" considering all the bugs that continue to plague the ship I would say: yes, unfortunately.

[@staceybertran52]

Not bad but we would still like a medium salvage ship 2 or 3 crew that is between the Reclaimer and the Vulture.

[@DavorPranjic]

⬆️ This!!!

[@solidicone]

Yeah was just talking to my buddies about it.. need our salvage version of the mole lol

[@jjetstreamgamer]

And I want it to be ARGO plz Chris

[@MetaMelonColley]

yea i was hype to see something like that but im kinda turned off, i like the ship but imma run vulture.

[@carlhinton4849]

Orion-variant Salvager eventually? :)

[@HybridVAudio]

3:54 -1 point for deactivating VTOLs during takeoff.

[@PerfectCode]

Yeah lol

[@Phoenixstorm36]

Takeoff's and Landing's kinda got to your specialities

[@Lampislife]

-1 point not using vtols while salvaging in atmo

[@explorer47422]

At this point do VTOLS give any kind of significant benefit whatsoever? Like not enabling doesn't make it impossible or impractical to take off, there's zero incentive for people to switch to them

[@KindredBrujah]

Yep, strange time to do it.

[@hobosloth28]

Now I want a mining variant of the Vulture. The Drake Dredger

[@Sludgebuster]

I'd buy that just for the name :D

[@commander07]

A mining variant of the Vulture already exists it is called Venture and is available to fly in EVE Online.

[@Alkyps]

DRILDO

[@ItchyBones]

SOLD!

[@BlackMage_01]

I want a much bigger one. Think a Corsair in size, but operable by up to two players. one miner, and one refinery operator. which means you could operate solo if you don't mind hopping out of the cockpit and fiddling around in the engineering room every so often.

[@JotaBe_]

I think the automatic charging system is backwards. It would have to start charging from the farthest to the nearest, because it seems to go through physical boxes.

[@Jaxxie_B]

@JotaBe_ yea, its a bit jarring

[@robertmandl9326]

Or it simply "pushes" the boxes onward. Ever thought of that?

[@m1c4d0]

Yeah, let's wait a few years for this fix)

[@emseebe]

Typical CIG effort and quality...

[@Khinouille]

Looks bad yeah the boxes just teleporting through each other

[@syno2338]

We need the Argo MOLE salvage equivalent

[@KNOPTS]

Yes

[@korb3n_Dallas_plays]

YES !

[@GPUGear]

Between Vulture and Claimer size 100%

[@slider799]

only £499.99

[@ad_nauseous]

Argo makes the MOST sense to have a mid-line salvage ship, in my opinion. The Vulture is my favorite, but I want just a hair more from it, and hearing that the Fortune will be less efficient than the Vulture is a bummer. Argo could certainly shine with a heavy duty salvager to hold the space between Vulture and Reclaimer.

[@aennaenn7468]

There needs to be a button to print boxes from the cockpit. And a ship that expects you to eva for component recovery needs a suit locker.

[@Allegromk2]

would have been a good idea to have some attachment capability on that rear lift. it should have a cargo grid, infact the entire inside should have, so you can lock down components that youve salvaged

[@Mastadon1985]

if its trade off is convenience... then allow the pilot to eject the cargo from the pilot seat.

[@solidicone]

absolutely...

[@williamlewis1805]

Amen, CIG NEVER LEARNS ANYTHING

[@FrancisFjordCupola]

And also from the outside. Like after you tractored off the 6 boxes, you don't want to go back instead to okay six more boxes.

[@oO0Xenos0Oo]

Didn't they say in the video, that you might setup the cargo to auto eject?

[@robertmandl9326]

@@FrancisFjordCupola It´s 12 boxes. And not everything needs to totally cater to solo use. And if you idiots don´t see the vast improvement in NOT having to run through the entire ship, up and down a ladder, and NOT having to manually eject and stow boxes then you´re way too dumb for this game anyway.

[@Flippsen]

That salvage material teleporting onto the grid looks really dumb.

[@redent84]

Agree, what's the point on the first animation if the box is going to teleport to its place? Just teleport it and call it a day.

[@sammieee2610]

Missed opportunity to do better.

[@SternLX]

SCU boxes already do this on a standard cargo grid if you drop it near a snap point. I fail to see your point.

[@hitmanstallion2697]

dumb but passable for alpha

[@moweqqe]

it's star citizen and it's ideas tbh

[@Mike5Brown]

Was the Prospector interior updated as well? Any plans on updating the animations on the boxes moving onto the grid?

[@Izack]

2nd point: Obviously not lol.

[@Nosdeblack]

I'd like to see that moving like a conveyor belt. But.. yeah.

[@animry]

its called magic ejection tech

[@fmartingorb]

@@animry it is called effort vs value

[@ViniciusConsorte]

No, and NO, prospector looks the same in the PTU up to today, so no updates for this patch at least.

[@Lenartowy]

I really hope, that some day cargo will move on this conveyor belt instead just pop in place.

[@yulfine1688]

its pretty unnecessary to do so.. rather a waste.. star citizen is starting to learn that some things aren't that worthwhile to implement and is wasteful

[@TheTrueBrainfreezing]

So I'm not the only one disappointed it just *POPS* into existence

[@Lhexh]

I totally agree with you! the snapping looks terrible

[@fmartingorb]

@@Lenartowy every time people complain. It is the endless bickering.

[@Lenartowy]

@@yulfine1688 well for me the cargo grid looks like some kind of conveyor belt, each "grid" is connected, if they wanted it to just be a magical cargo grid they would make it look like in Hull a (it's MISC afterall) also they might need conveyor belts for other stuff like base building (player owned space stations will be huge), maybe implement them in other ships, also "immersion" and "fedelity" (and those are important for CIG) so i really hope it's "Work in progress" as said on the video :)

[@wils315]

Wait magically spawning boxes on the outside? After making all the other cargo spawning hidden in a system or an elevator... why?

[@oO0Xenos0Oo]

It s not just spawning. There is an dispenser in the ships hull, from where the boxes are pushed out, so it is the same system like in vulture or reclaimer. However the animations of fresh boxes just snapping to the cargo grid don't look great yet.

[@wils315]

@@oO0Xenos0Oo Ah ok that makes a little more sense. But yes it just looked like snapping and appearing in the clip.

[@dipperspace]

It's just a departure from their own standards. made everything as simple as possible, on the old platform with minimal changes, and now selling it as a “new breakthrough!”... at an inflated price. In general, it is a test bed for a young “promising” trainee...

[@ml3487]

@@dipperspace Are you wearing your tin foil hat today sweetie?

[@David-Kynaston]

@@ml3487 We understand your tendencies, but please refrain from using your transgender rhetoric. That's a good girl. Thank you.

[@basiliskprime]

4:20 smoke ships erry day

[@TxShack90]

You fkr made me click it

[@kurewe]

To think, you could have done a Medium Sized Salvager like a Freelancer. But no, you thought we needed another small salvage vehicle.

[@Allegromk2]

yea freelancer sized would have been very logical

[@StevenSudweeks]

Or make a salvage version of the Mole. That would have been great

[@kurewe]

@@StevenSudweeks Good idea as well. I do like the view from a MISC cockpit though.

[@JackalX111]

CIG, thank you for adding more windows on your ships. :]

[@Sunderbrass]

Too bad that they're about as useful as putting a window behind my refrigerator.

[@Yama_1291]

The Vulture scrapes faster and can hold much nore salvage. I guess it's convenient not having to move the boxes by hand but do you really want to leave over 1/3 of the salvage behind for the sake of convenience? Unless the outside grid can fit 24 boxes I don't see myself ever using this over a Vulture.

[@Allegromk2]

i usually salvage in civilian clothes, I find it relaxing so my girl likes to relax too. I really enjoy having to go and stack up the boxes, and its only what twice you have to do that, the first 13, then another 11 (or 12 if your lucky) and then just let the buffer refill. go back with 37 scu of rmc, in one trip. fortune is not going to compare with that.

[@steelfire9597]

Yeah. The extra speed and capacity of the Vulture is actually way more of a convenience and far more efficient.

[@BetaX425]

@@Allegromk2 That's precisely my method, and I would only ever scrape in a small salvage ship... only way to make good creds.

[@doctorwigglespank8933]

I'm going to try the Fortune for a while, but I have no plans to melt my Vulture yet. If/when cargo gets to a point where we can't safely fill the off-grid spaces in the Vulture, then I might be more inclined to trade it for a Fortune.

[@Sludgebuster]

I'm a little mixed actually. For panels, this thing might be more fun than the Vulture: If All I need to do is press one button then jump back in my seat and have things fill up, it might make it quicker.... But the lesser storage is a turnoff- even if removal would be easier.

[@DayLateGamerWill]

Keep it going CIG! MISC Communication: Data Runner MISC Adventure: Exploration Vessel MISC Diagnosis: Ambulance MISC Apropriation: Pirating MISC Ellaneous: Jack of all trades

[@Aves_1]

MISC Pager: entry level data runner

[@srick77373]

Do you mean the MISC Odyssey?

[@L.J.Kommer]

Lol. Brilliant 😂

[@steelfire9597]

Don't forget about the MISC Information. Hacking variant of the MISC Communication. (Courtesy of my Org mates. :D

[@Sunderbrass]

@@steelfire9597 Had the same thought, but as a News/Recording vessel, like the MISC Reliant Mako.

[@RedJay]

Prospector needs that rear room even if full size elevator is not usable, just give that ship same internal space.

[@wafflesinsanity]

That space already exists and is meant for bag storage. The Prospector carries not just the 4 bags on the exterior, but another 12 inside. We just don't have that tech in game yet.

[@Rantandreason]

The internals of the Prospector are where they do all the magic for ore collection It will not be made to be the same Different ships, different functions, different technology

[@Sidewinder1311]

3:55 retracting the VTOLs to then take off. Classic SC flight physics lol. But still, nice looking ship!

[@ProvencalG]

I'm not accusing physics, I'm more upset at the cinematic team that thought "yeah that's how it's done" haha

[@HybridVAudio]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[@ProvencalG]

Technically half the scraping performance as the Vulture, the automatic cargo grid does not justify that difference, or make it a good trade off. I would have like it if it was a true competitor.

[@christianmaheu]

Agreed. It would have been nice that they went like mining head sizes, from a Size 1 head to a Size 2 for stripping. At least this way, it might have been worthwhile. As it stands, I'm keeping my Vulture.

[@yaeaster3454]

Exactly. Or make the grid 2+ on each side. It looks really bad in comparison to the vulture.

[@emseebe]

The only thing the Miscfortune has going for it is that since it's only 7.5 mtrs tall, it'll be able to fit inside some ships that the Vulture can't.

[@robertmandl9326]

So I take it you gonks missed the fact that the Fortune is also a bit smaller than the Vulture, thus making it easier to load it onto an 890 or a Polaris. No weird angle required to land and launch, no risk of accidental detonation. And with the boxes neatly arranged on the outside the Fortune makes for a handy companion vessel.

[@jamakasis18]

It's not a competitor, it's a "starter" salvage.

[@AbbreviatedReviews]

MISC has the technology to have salvage crates automatically place themselves on the grid! Maybe one day Drake will figure this out so we don't have to move boxes three feet backwards when they're being processed...

[@kyoko4651]

I actually think Drake shouldnt do that, from a balance perspective (vulture is faster in the salvaging, fortune is faster in the cargo) yes, but also from a lore perspective, MISC puts far more into their tech, their ships are more expensive, drake ships are bare bones without any specials bells and whistles, so to speak.

[@FelixEnder]

i dont put the boxes on the grid anyways... you get 25 SCU in the vulture if you dont use the grid

[@Ph4n_t0m]

@@FelixEnder this! with some struggle you can put 26. Plus 13 in the tank for a total of 39scu... vs what... 12 on the misfortune? maybe 24 at most? yeessh

[@AbbreviatedReviews]

@@kyoko4651 It's not really reasonable to talk about balance when we don't know the value. And it's not really a balance or lore issue - it's a mechanic that is clunky for the sake of being clunky. Though the implementation here - or at least the visual of it - looks pretty awkward.

[@AbbreviatedReviews]

@@FelixEnder One day, it might actually matter if things are on the grid or not.

[@HighmageDerin]

Advantages of the Vulture over the Fortune. the second arm holds a tractor beam. Anyone who salvages knows just how handy that thing is when you got a little close and bumped the target. I might have to get out and do it myself. but I can store 24/25(if Im quick enough) SCU in my cargo bay. before filling the buffer back up again. Second scraper head does speed up salvage runs. especially if you know how to space the beams out. Assuming Im done salvaging and want to sell at say, Crusader where the prices are marginal higher then elsewhere before heading back to Area 18, my home port. The Cargo Bay allows me to grab a light cargo mission to take with me on the way back! further adding to my aUEC bank account :) The Fortune may have better speed or componit choices though, that is to be scene. but honestly your getting one of these ships to Clean up AFTER a fight, not start one :)

[@HighmageDerin]

Forgot to add, there MIGHT, MIGHT, be one reason for me to choose a Fortune over a Vulture. and that will be When the MISC Odyssey finally drops. The Hanger might be large enough to park both a Fortune And a prospector if the park opposite directions of each other in a snug fit. allowing you to fly out into the unknown far reaches of the solar system, Park the Odyssey. while your friends take out the prospector and Fortune to scout and harvest while you refuel the takes with any Quant you or the prospector find!

[@TonViper]

In optimal conditions, I can cram 26 crates in the back of my Vulture, one stuck in the ejection buffer, and 13 in the salvage buffer, for 40 SCU total.

[@QuickStudy4]

@@HighmageDerin Heck I was planning on doing that with my Vulture and Ironclad Assault, but I was concerned with the size of the Vulture. However since the Fortune is more compact, I am going to trade in my Vulture in for one.

[@JerBearTeo]

@@HighmageDerin Doesn't the Odyssey already have a Prospector strapped onto it :D?

[@aber_rok]

@@JerBearTeo It's only for mining Quantanium and refining it to refuel itself. It can't mine materials to sell like you would on a Prospector.

[@hiphopgrinch]

Just need to update the Prospector to the same standard, hopefully that will happen sooner than later.

[@ninetalesxyo8842]

Wrong

[@hiphopgrinch]

@ninetalesxyo8842 what's wrong about updating the Prospector? It needs components, weapon racks, and internal storage just like every other ship. That's an L take

[@robertmandl9326]

@@hiphopgrinch The "wrong" part is you assuming it will happen soon, considering the Prospector looks similar but really is a different ship. Besides there are other vessels which are more in need of an overhaul.

[@robotspartan9100]

@@robertmandl9326 the prospector is a pretty common ship, so i'd argue it wants doing sooner. A balance of "oldest ships first" vs "the ones players want first". Also they outright stated that a couple rooms (hab and i think cockpit?) are reused from the prospector just bought up to standard, so they can easily drag and drop those sections (in the game files, ships with interiors each room is its own thing, so it really is drag and drop)

[@GreatWolfBalistic]

This is a perfect ship for multi ship gameplay. Your friends can pick off the cargo with ease while you work.

[@BaneSIlvermoon]

@GreatWolfBalistic not convinced that the single salvage head can keep up with the transport ship, but I had the same thought.

[@nikoulph]

Should have made twice the cargo boxes outside the ship, to make it more palatable. Maybe even 2SCU boxes to make it less tedious to off load?

[@ADMNtek]

agreed. i kinda feel there will be a max version in the future with a bigger cargo rack.

[@nikoulph]

@ cross my fingers

[@mikegilkey]

Awesome to see Elwin!!! If new people don’t know, he was a star citizen fan that also helped design the Redeemer in the fan contest and then went to work for CIG.

[@RongleBringer]

Nice, I remember him from those days! Good to see he's still trucking

[@dipperspace]

so that's who this young “promising” intern is! he'll go far with the magical minimalism of teleporting boxes, just like one sound engineer assistant with a “breakthrough” flight model and master modes...

[@ViniciusConsorte]

It better be a good amount cheaper than a Vulture, 3 less heads, less overall cargo space, since you can stuff 2x times the official grid onto the Vulture. Devs talking about how amazing is to see 2 printers working at same time..... Reclaimer had that for a while, running like crazy stacking 16Scu crates from 2 printers before they pushed the next ones out.

[@arenomusic]

You KNOW it's going to be more expensive than the Vulture, why even pretend?

[@dipperspace]

Vulture nerfed in 4... 3... 2... 1...

[@BaneSIlvermoon]

​@@arenomusicsame price.

[@Funkiyy]

I'm so confused where's the grinding blades? Those little panels in the front this doesn't make sense when Maelstrom comes in and we're going to have actual cutting and destruction they're going to have to redo the ship and it's literally a copy paste of the prospector there's no original design here

[@TheConstructorChris]

Who's gonna tell him.

[@Funkiyy]

@TheConstructorChris I just voiced my opinion here. I doubt it will carry, but I also feel like a lot of supporters of this project probably feel the same way. I don't think anyone wants to stick with the disintegration process to salvaging I'm pretty confident that most players want to actually have a little bit of a skill-based gameplay Loop where we're actually cutting away parts of the ship. There is a clip of them talking about it. once Maelstrom comes online, they're going to revisit salvaging out of their own words. With that said, this ship doesn't make sense.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

@@Funkiyy Doesn't matter they are going with whatever works Not what Looks COOL. Which to be fair CIG does a lot but not in this case.

[@Funkiyy]

@AlbertoMartinez765 it looks terrible I'm also not understanding the cone size is level two but the scraping lasers are size 1 it literally does the same thing as the vulture but only has one laser so they just created a ship that breaks immersion and magically places boxes it doesn't even slide onto a conveyor system as misleading as the commercial video was.

[@Crooked_Will]

But why does it have a +50% to ALL emissions? The ship has a 22k EM signature bone stock.

[@CitizenNerd]

how will pirates find it otherwise ? has to shine like a sun on radar of corse :D

[@Allegromk2]

@@CitizenNerd phalic tax

[@Mercurial_Me]

"The ship really makes use of all the available space inside of it." Proceeds to show a long empty hallway to the back where a cargo grid could have been. That aside, this ship looks rad. Not sure I'd take it over the Vulture though... But it is smaller...

[@chompdoesathing]

pretty sure there is a grid inside of it, specs show 12+4 for the cargo grid, just in the video it heaps stuff back there for the vibe I guess?

[@jbirdmax]

Nice ship. Love the newer polish and thought put into ships lately. Now all we need is a working version of Star Citizen.

[@TheGavric]

Newer polish and thought? They just gutted the interior (where the mining feed system should be) and added a box teleporter where the mining bags were. This ship is not up to their standards. Used to be that the ship team turned out the most reliable work in this game. This ship was phoned in, like everything else in the past year.

[@dipperspace]

This is either deep sarcasm or holy naivety. Тaking the old, throwing away the bags and saying it's “new” and selling it for three times the price is a win-win business plan.

[@TheGavric]

@dipperspace Only if you want short-term gains. A better plan would be quality assets and features that keep people paying money for decades. However, you make a point, as an increasing portion of humanity values shiny over substance.

[@jbirdmax]

@@dipperspace 🤫

[@jbirdmax]

I’m such a troll lately. Apologies. Still funny tho 😂

[@Kiwi_Dave]

Fantastic how each manufacturer has it's own look and vibe.

[@animusnocturnus7131]

I love that we're finally getting into alternatives for industrial ships as well. I hate those structural salvage flaps on the side though, because those seem to be the final nail in the coffin for having a more visceral way of cutting open salvageable ships for their components, via the Maelstrom system, and cutting lasers on the Vulture, or the claw on the Reclaimer.

[@aleksanderw5536]

So... why the boxes magically appear instead of coming out?

[@yulfine1688]

because they haven't worked on physicalizing that process if they even bother doing so, but also it they explained it ejects onto the grid you can see it shoot out, it shouldn't magically attach but you're not going to notice that while flying it.. at all.. or probably actually care in the long run

[@Frank_Quantaine]

Tier 1 implementation. That'll be 200 bucks, thanks.

[@Doomguy-777]

Because you are asking to add another year of development to this game and fixing these animations.

[@billkranz8035]

Space magic for once.

[@StevenSudweeks]

Did you see the Work in Progress tag? It's not done yet. I'm sure the animation will get fixed

[@foxbladeuk]

Would have been nice if the external grids were doubled up and when the first one is full, it folds up 90 degrees and out of the way. So it would have a Hull-A-esque MISC mechanic while being more competitive in storage to the Vulture

[@robertmandl9326]

... which would obsolete the Vulture. As it is the Vulture has both more storage space and faster scraping going for it while the Fortune is smaller and a bit easier to use.

[@RoughGalaxyYT]

Not to sounds like a hater, but it's a prospector with a salvage arm slapped on it. I mean if it works it works. no need to re-invent the wheel. I guess I just expected it to be more different.

[@TheGavric]

More game-ification. Just hollowed out the Prospector. Interesting that that the vacuum tube system for filling mining bags takes up more room than two salvage, filler stations that hold material and boxes, that magically teleport into place. Couldn't take the time to make them actually slide along the ”conveyor" appropriately? 2025 is starting out a lot like 2024.

[@wafflesinsanity]

Because thats what the game needs. Sliding boxes. Much higher priority than... idk... the backlog.

[@TheGavric]

@wafflesinsanity Hey...I didn't ask them to produce a half-baked, rushed ship. I'm saying that their work has been sloppy and rushed for a year, now. This is another example. Be glad it's not a ship from the backlog; you'd probably be unhappy with the result.

[@SpaceShortsYT]

Do we have to get out of the seat to "push those two buttons" in the back to send the cargo outside?

[@Allegromk2]

looks that way! ;D so literaly 3 minutes of tractor work is all your saving here.

[@wafflesinsanity]

yes, your game requires play to access mechanics. "Do I have to pull the trigger to shoot the NPC?" - Same concept

[@targard.quantumfrack6854]

@@wafflesinsanity I think they mean that the commands could have been in the pilot's dashboard, and... yeah it would be logical for a one crew ship

[@wafflesinsanity]

@@targard.quantumfrack6854 I guess you are right. Most modern CDL Drivers have buttons that automatically unload their cargo from their vehicle for processing so they can just sit in their driver seats. Thanks for the opinion!

[@BaneSIlvermoon]

Yeah, that's where this ship could start to compete with the Vulture. If you had remote processing controls available to the pilot.

[@marcell9211]

Really a nice idea, beautiful displays and two working stations are great. Looks really cool, especially the windows in the interior appeal to me. I'm already looking forward to testing the ship. Great work CIG/Ship Team

[@The_Fallen_1]

No disrespect to the people that worked on it, but I'm really not liking those dodgy structural salvage lamps. It strongly points towards going back on what was said would happen with structural salvage once Maelstrom is implemented as I can't see them cutting or grinding up big chucks of scrap. Also, it feels bad that half the Vulture is dedicated to be able to do structural salvage and the Reclaimer has to have a massive salvage arm with a large grinding area in the core of the ship, and all the Fortune has to do is tack on a couple of small lamps and it can do the exact same. I hope that when structural salvage gets another pass with Maelstrom that they redesign the Fortune's equipment for it.

[@Allegromk2]

maybe the chompers on the recliamer and the vulture cam break up ship hulls into USEFUL resources, not just the grey soup of CM that we currently get. - that would be cool

[@AcheliusDecimus]

Ok I loved the VUlture but I prefer Misc so I am getting this one for sure.

[@arenomusic]

You are the reason they made this ship.

[@StephenBlane]

I think this is a winning format for showing off ships either in development or soon to be released! Star Citizen has a lot of ships and some episodes of Inside Star Citizen can feel less about development and more about showing us cool ships, so it'll be really cool if this sticks so ISC can focus more on the game's development and the teams behind them, while we still get to see these kinds of videos earlier in the week!

[@mattp1337]

I'm very happy with my Vulture, but it's nice to see that new players will have more choices.

[@Chris_KAy]

never have i ever not wanted a ship like this one lol.

[@Taztorien]

Drake needs a single seat Miner now

[@oO0Xenos0Oo]

I want a mining version of the dragonfly, that is able to sneak into caves or inside of large astroids.

[@Bacon_actual]

Hold the line don’t spend money

[@DrunkFool-w2r]

Chad comment brother. Sell sell sell 🤣

[@tippytoes2133]

I really really really really struggle to understand even 10% why this exists? Pilot still has to get up to eject the cargo. Holds less. Slower salvage rate. The only difference is I have to tractor beam them off the side of my ship instead of out the back? How does this even begin to validate making a new ship?

[@sadlerbw9]

I'm pretty sure they mentioned you can just set it to auto-eject so you don't have to get up. They talk about it at 1:03, but it isn't clear if auto-eject just dumps everything currently in the buffer, or if it is a toggle you can set so you don't have to get up every time the buffer is full.

[@tippytoes2133]

​@@sadlerbw9I'm pretty sure they just meant the current auto eject that also exists for the vulture

[@sadlerbw9]

@@tippytoes2133 You might be right. The whole video was kinda odd in terms of acting like stuff was new.

[@AlbertoMartinez765]

Pilot does NOT have to get up at all you set it to auto just like the Vulture does now except it keeps going to everything is full unlike the Vulture which stops after like 3 boxes and then you have to get up and move things around.

[@wickedwookie]

Thanks for bringing it to the Beautiful Brios Breaker Yard For Scooter lol.

[@blublublabla4545]

seeing the boxes magically appear on the grid really is a bummer. looks horrible. Do you have other plans in the future? I hate to think that was the best idea you had.

[@arenomusic]

Hahahahahahahaha It was definitely the best idea they had

[@Allegromk2]

the server can think of it the same as we see, theres nothing stopping the CLIENT from animating the boxes into place depending on how many are currently ejected. its a simple animation, doesnt have anything server side at all. maybe one day eh

[@labuse718]

You know they're not convinced themselves when the describing is full with nothing but "somehow" and "maybe"

[@AidanofVT]

Yes, Beam Citizen makes it much easier to reuse past development work, doesn't it?

[@tickledtrout8197]

So the boxes magically teleport/snap to grid. Could they not at least make it so that they slowly move to position, using some hover tech, filling the grid from the corner to the last spot where the boxes get pushed out.

[@robertmandl9326]

Are you seriously complaining about the animation here? Does the word "ALPHA" mean anything to you? Be glad they introduce this mechanism at all now, you idiot.

[@TF150]

Im not set on the magically snapping to grid system, there is 0 animation or explanation to how on earth that box is going from the dispenser to the grid, other than magic. This looks kinda rushed :(

[@Diogenes76]

At this point in the project, it is best not perfection get in the way of good enough.

[@Hylanvahr]

What's most important is that it works. They can complete the animations later.

[@TF150]

@@Hylanvahr oh boy.. I've heard that before.. over, and over, and over, and over again.

[@Hylanvahr]

@TF150 Yeah? Welcome to game development. The process is like hospital triage, you have to sort out what's most urgent now, and take care of the little stuff later. Besides, if you're piloting this thing, you wouldn't see the animation unless you were in 3rd person. Still, I'll grant you that CIG's approach to development is questionable at best.

[@killerinstinct9954]

Why would I buy a ship if I can’t even play the game??

[@ERA_AveryMorne]

Bruh, 4m isc after two eons of hiatus?

[@Mor4me]

Looks like they’re getting ready to have a more use of the VTOL system for in atmosphere In game purchases for sure

[@GnomeKr]

As long as it will be cheaper than Vulture - I'm in Because that way we will start to see a nice progression in the Salvage profession from smaller, more simplistic ship, through something bigger and more advanced all the way to the Reclaimer for those who seek to live off from "eating" ships

[@kungfuhiker8793]

The ability to store components separate from the main scu grid is cool.

[@fupu57]

That fire extuinguisher placement is a dealbreaker!

[@hexamirofficial]

this is a joke...?

[@arenomusic]

@@hexamirofficial Average SC player's sarcasm comprehension

[@EnclaveGeneral]

So it's just a flashy but otherwise worse Vulture? Man, I was really hoping it would compete more, like have substantially more storage space or be faster at ripping hulls...

[@Allegromk2]

yep disapointing

[@joorlon1994]

Your game needs to work for this ship to work

[@PerfectCode]

Ein Genie.

[@arenomusic]

CIG added a ship that already has solid competition and skipped in front of dozens of old concept ships for an obscene amount of real-world money in their game that has been locking people out since the holidays? Quelle surprise! They have never done this before and never will again!

[@almostpilot378]

And the game is misFortune.....

[@JohnBonny-e9s]

Looks cool. I wish that my starmax had that cockpit

[@TheXasTube]

Nice job on the format of the show. Loving it! Nice job on the design of the ship. Loving it! Unloading animation still needs some love. The snap-teleport really breaks the beauty of this thing. Let the boxes slide just like they would on a conveyor belt in satisfactory or factorio. This cannot take any time compared to all the love and care that has already been poured into the hull and details! Also balance wise I fear this one will have a hard time competing with the vulture if the salvage heads are really the same and the vulture simply has twice as many hardpoints and therefore can salvage twice as fast. Might want to let a mathematician go over the balance so this ship has a chance to compare to the other offerings around. Especially since the vulture will also function better as a component/weapon salvager since you have an easily accesable internal cargo grid to store bigger guns instead of salvage materials. Maybe think about giving this one a size upgrade so the one salvager scraps atleast at 150% speed/area compared to the vulture's 2x100%=200% speed.

[@cyberf0x]

I'm no longer buying ships until the game is FIXED.

[@isurus4796]

I’m right there with you. The state of the game and ships we have already paid for should be addressed first.

[@KotDT]

4:20 long video. Nice!

[@silkyz68]

mine says 4:19....

[@CastleBravo023]

@@silkyz68you must be using New York minutes. XD

[@vonrosphe3098]

Seems like the main advantage of the Fortune is the smaller size of the ship. So it's easier to carry it around. Now we have to wait for the Ironclad to see if the Fortune fit inside.

[@doubledigital_]

if the vulture fits in the polaris this thing will fit in the fatapill nps..

[@NewbyINC]

Please do more like this CIG! Similarly spec'd ships from competing manufacturers with small advantages/disadvantages. More of these will hopefully move away from "meta" ships to player preference

[@BrilliantB5]

Idc make the game playable instead of selling more ships

[@PerfectCode]

… That’s what they’re doing.

[@GamerFromSpace]

Let's fire all the ship team I guess

[@VyoIce]

Read the chairman's letter for 2025 troll. Shut your face.

[@deathlytree434]

On god and fix the old shops before making a new one

[@pegasusbs6237]

Ships help to expand gameplay & fund the project 😭

[@JagHiroshi]

Great to see Elwin and Stephen again.

[@ElXtrick]

i dont know why... I was not expecting there to be no animation for the boxes, so when it just popped onto the grid like space magic i legit spit.

[@Allegromk2]

its a client side animation, there is no reason why it doesnt animate. maybe it will eventually. - the day my catapillars cargo doors go to the floor

[@ElXtrick]

@ around the same time the carrack gets its drone module I’d imagine :)

[@vamperic]

It's mandatory that you update the prospector to this model ASAP, need that back area to store different mining heads, gadgets and subcomponents!

[@SozeHB]

I think the prospector has processing stuff on the back so no elevator for it.

[@robertmandl9326]

You don´t get to make that call. Nothing is "mandatory" here. Especially since the Fortune has a mostly new interior layout along with the design details, so a straight copy job won´t do.

[@wafflesinsanity]

That space already exists and is meant for bag storage. The Prospector carries not just the 4 bags on the exterior, but another 12 inside. We just don't have that tech in game yet.

[@bradsour]

@@wafflesinsanity if boxes can just appear, why not bags?

[@wafflesinsanity]

@@bradsour Because animations being incomplete is not the same thing as completely missing game functions

[@CyberneticArgumentCreator]

The "please try to steal crates off money off of my sides" ship.

[@ZurakciEntertainment]

Ok so when is the Prospector getting its update? Cause its kind of pointless to update a ship through a variant and then leave the other variant(s) behind... Kind of like the Ursa, Ballista, and the MPUV.

[@arenomusic]

It's not pointless if your only goal is to print money out of thin air

[@vishus85]

I'm sorry, buthonestly what a waste. We wanted a medium sized Salvager like the mole is for mining.

[@PerfectCode]

That will come.

[@firstjayjay]

I'm with you buddy. I don't want either. Cig should make everyone happy

[@spiller280]

Speak for yourself. Tbh I wanted a one seater Salvage ship and honestly am not a huge fan of the Vulture.

[@eunoiaeudaimonia6829]

@@spiller280 Indeed Bro. I hated the look of the Vulture and love MISC design, this is perfect

[@DylanBolts]

Crybaby.

[@sergioveraruiz5384]

I want a medium chunky drake salvage ship , with 3 person crew, asimetrical, with a front cargo area that can be open and put salvaged items using a tractor beam from the cockpit, something like a mini iron clad, and of course with a small habitation area like the mole to do some role play gaming with my friends XD

[@BaneSIlvermoon]

I'd like to see a Cutlass variant as a two person salvage ship (Cutlass Green? Brass?). It already has two seats in the cockpit. Could cut out the living quarter conveniences and place the salvage buffer(s) there. And then have a hallowed out rear like the Cutty Black and keep that 46+ SCU cargo hold. Maybe even consider giving it three salvage heads, one for the pilot and two for the salvage operator? Would have to consider balance verses the Vulture and Reclaimer so everyone didn't just switch to the three laser Cutlass. Maybe hobble it with a single buffer, or inability to fracture. No bed?

[@Clifton_Dynamite2020]

Salvage boxes popping into existence, terrible, they are cutting corners with this game now.

[@GizmoMagui]

This is how I would make this ship. I would have the player (place their own empty BOXES) onto the ship and (pretend) that the ship is feeding it with tubes on the back side and fills up each box at a time with a number value, and BOOM, you don't see st_p_d magical BOX appearing out of thin air onto the grid of the ship.. What are we like interning children?

[@rivalg4]

I'm the only one who is upset to see a box appear out of nowhere on the grid.

[@EdwardDragon96]

Nah you arent. That looks really bad.

[@WarriorTech_FTW]

Can’t see myself getting rid of my vulture for this, as convenient as having the boxes auto sort themselves might be

[@TheCerberus93]

Just keep in mind this ship has 13.0SCU.... It's literally not worth it unless given free.

[@m1ddleagemadness]

YES! Space Windows :)

[@Naviss]

The way these boxes connect to that cargo grid, just looks bad and not the Star Citizen way. Teleporting boxes around on the grid outside looks really bad. Otherwise, an awesome change to a great ship frame (prospector).

[@BoredGamerUK]

Loving the vibe, it does currently feel like a better version of the Vulture BUT I suspect it will all shake out well for the economy and having more choice in the future!

[@jbirdmax]

@@BoredGamerUK ❤️❤️

[@Deddarus]

how is it better than the vulture? Scrapes at half the speed (which is likely to offset any time gained through not having to stack boxes) and has less off-grid storage space

[@jbirdmax]

@ holds more salvage material? Has an amazing view? It’s not made by DRAKE?

[@Deddarus]

@ Doesn't hold more material. 1x13scu buffer, 2x6scu storage = same official space as the vulture but with less space to store off grid

[@Sir_Pyrrhic]

@@Deddarus Yeah, but I personally don't know anyone who doesn't utilize that extra space in their vulture, so it's an effective downsize regardless of if it's an "official" grid or not. I could see it being really useful when having a buddy run your cargo, though! Someone in a Nomad wouldn't even need to get out of their pilot seat to grab n go.

[@Eric-un2oq]

Now we should see the prospector updated and a vulture mining variant.

[@ShadowOfMachines]

I didn't think the Fortune would break ships, but I guess MISC can make those things smaller than Drake. Can it break a similar range of ships to the Vulture?

[@TheWasd1234]

More options for starter career ships is always welcome.

[@ShapeshifterOS]

The boxes should slide out on rails with releasable clamps that double as rail guides.

[@HK94]

Nice ship, I just hope there will be a bit better cargo snapping animation when a new box is created.

[@SirMadsen]

Everyone wanted a medium salvage, this is what we get... You can even overstack in the Vulture since boxes are on the inside. I'd say, stay away from this and go with the Vulture until CIG listens to their community and backers.

[@Excelzius]

I wish there was something that you can place boxes so that you won't have to go back and forth from your ship.

[@guesswork]

Pretty good guys. Different but doesn't make the Vulture obsolete. But, hopefully you're saving the size up for Argo

[@wafflesinsanity]

Great idea! People getting all bent up out of shape over the snapping cargo, but in reality, those animations can get polished over time WAY after the ship teams work on the backlog and all these other ships. The animation polish can wait. This is amazing tech and I can't wait to see how we use it in other ships too.

[@MidnightWolfSDJ]

One small suggestion I would change is having it snap to the grid away from the ejection point first and then fill in the grid going toward the ejection point. That way it would look less snappy teleporting through a box to get to the grid. Other than that solid ship!

[@ddavis5442]

2 salvage stations working in tandem is new?? The Reclaimer would like a word.... man you guys have really forgotten her....

[@arenomusic]

The people that worked on that ship were taken out back and shot dead, they don't talk about the Reclaimer because of all the guilt

[@ddavis5442]

@@arenomusic dark lol

[@spectrezero6834]

The majority of industry folk I know wanted a medium salvager that is between the Vulture and Reclaimer. They have been very vocal about this. It is a bit disappointing CIG didn't hear them.

[@christiaangrobler4623]

No one, not one single person asked for a Vulture-light. We need something bigger than a Vulture and a Reclaimer!

[@ADMNtek]

salvage prospector nice. but just 12 boxes is not much compared to how many you can squeeze into a vulture. needs expandable racks for like 3x3 or 4x3 containers.

[@liamdudeeee]

Did you even watch the video? 12 boxes plus another 12 buffer and possibly another 8 in the rear of the ship. thats on par if not slightly more than a vulture.

[@TrustAlpha]

@@liamdudeeee You can have 40 SCU in the Vulture

[@QuickStudy4]

@@liamdudeeee I think what they are talking about is that with the cargo bay of the Vulture you can technically store more than what the cargo grid allows. Which you can do with the Fortune as well, plus maybe they will allow you to travel outside the ship and stack the boxes on top of one another.

[@Blood-Wolfe]

​@@liamdudeeee You really want to get out of the ship to bring boxes inside when the Vulture I can at least stay in the ship to stack off the grid. Vulture can hold 37 easily total or if you really want it can be pushed to 40. So unless I missed something here, the boxes don't come inside at all so you'd have to fly outside the ship to bring the boxes in through the elevator if you want to store some off the grid as extra. That would not be fun and more of a PITA than just moving through the Vulture from cockpit to the cargo area. The Vulture I am at least still inside the ship moving around easily and let's use the smaller number of 37 boxes, the Fortune is 12 exterior + 12 buffer = 24 but let's say for arguments sake you want to fly outside to bring boxes in through the elevator and we'll use your 8 that is still only 32 vs 37 (or even 40) that won't require going outside. The Fortune should be either 2x 12 buffers plus 6+6 exterior, OR make the exterior double up on each side 12+12. Then it would be 36 scu total, then the convenience factor makes it worth while. Otherwise as others have said, it's still better with the Vulture having 2 scrappers and lots more cargo space without leaving the ship. As for @ADMNtek, you missed that it's 6+6 on the exterior and 12 in buffer so 24 total.

[@ADMNtek]

@@liamdudeeee vulture has space for 23+ i think i once managed to squeeze in 29 boxes plus 13 in the buffer.

[@william_santiago]

Thank you for dropping "Gold Standard" and naming it after whatever is being updated, such as this "Component Update."