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@vrnorwaynorway60484 ай бұрын
they gave us an upgrade for missions and now they need us to pay for hornet 1 to get hornet 2. instead of lettin us do it when we have money they forcing people to buy it now or upgrade is useless???
@sketchtherapy12184 ай бұрын
@@vrnorwaynorway6048 just buy it in game with auec
@sketchtherapy12184 ай бұрын
or steal it
@vrnorwaynorway60484 ай бұрын
@@sketchtherapy1218 and if u use the upgrade on it and they wipe? its gone?
@vrnorwaynorway60484 ай бұрын
@@sketchtherapy1218 cant upgrade a stolen ship
@fenrar97774 ай бұрын
There is something very amusing about fighters getting sunsetted before its even released XD
@yashik4 ай бұрын
not amusing, not frustrating but 100% enraging that's what it is... so as Jerrad likes to say, what did we learned today... I've learned I've been scammmed because my ship got retired before it got fully released... how am I not suppose to rage about this...
@Archmage98854 ай бұрын
@@yashik What exactly are you enraged about? You were able to fly the Hornet Mk 1 in the past and will continue being able to fly it in the future. CIG just isn't going to sell them anymore after this.
@LavitosExodius4 ай бұрын
This isn't the first time they've stopped selling a ship or did everyone forget about the Idris-M. The ship will still very much be alive in game and receive updates. They're just not selling it anymore.
@EricLing644 ай бұрын
That is the kind of stuff that makes some people feel the game is very close to being a scam. Sure it's a working game client, but the monetization is insanely predatory.
@Archmage98854 ай бұрын
@@EricLing64 "Predatory" how? People who bought Hornet Mk 1s still have them and will continue to have them. CIG just isn't going to sell more of them after this.
@javannapoli20184 ай бұрын
I'm very against the old hornets being removed from the store. Edit: wait, in game as well??? That's some bullshit.
@BoredGamerUK4 ай бұрын
yeah I am surprized as well
@SpaceDad424 ай бұрын
It’s a fomo cash grab. Criminals. Dread pirate Roberts for sure.
@Libertas_P774 ай бұрын
Hardly a big deal, they mk2 is better so as far as I’m concerned, who cares.. we have so many ships, retirement of one is no big deal. Or pledge with store credit and leave it in buy back if you want the option to pull it in the future.
@RykrXky4 ай бұрын
@@Libertas_P77it kinda of is a big deal mainly because the mkii cost more than mki so your put in a position where you basically have to melt and pay more for an updated version of a ship you already pledge which in some cases like the tracker hasn’t even gotten its gameplay yet or keep the outdated and underperforming “historical” model. Imagine if the 600i rework is turned into 600i S-Class instead and you have to pay for an upgrade to a ship you already pledged for expected gameplay. It’s just one ship so far but still kinda scummy and could set a bad precedent if repeated.
@digdug41234 ай бұрын
@@BoredGamerUK I am not surprised. They talked about this in past. Having the newer mks replace the old ones.
@troggladite4 ай бұрын
I’m very pissed that there’s no F8 rental/buy especially for those that still have tickets! Very upsetting
@The_Fallen_14 ай бұрын
They did say a long time ago that they would remove old versions of ships from sale, but I would have thought they would have stuck around in the in game stores until they figured out another way to sell them.
@yashik4 ай бұрын
selling something not finishing and removing it is definition of a scam... what is going on... MK1 hornet was sold as a top one of the best fighters what civilians can get... that's what I payed for... now not only it's not in gold standard they want to say it's retired without being finished without even playing with it in it's full potential in fully released game... cmon if that's not a scam what is a scam ...
@jonny_vdv4 ай бұрын
@@yashik They've said it will continue to get updates, including its gold pass. It just won't be available for sale after this.
@LavitosExodius4 ай бұрын
@@yashik They never said their removing it. It just won't be for sale any longer they also didn't say they won't give it it's gold pass. They are simply not selling it anymore much like the Idris-M. They will most likely do limited events now to get one still if you haven't bought one already.
@yashik4 ай бұрын
@@jonny_vdv I really want to believe you are right, but they said so many things and changed it so many times, factually speaking they were not able to deliver gold standard and proper balance during time ship was on sale how they will make it priority now when they are not selling it.. it's not even logical to think they will make an effort to put it into any priority l ist when it's not being sold anymore... it's like one day in a future far far away
@yashik4 ай бұрын
@@LavitosExodius yes sure but what kind of priority it will be to finish it into polished golden standard now when it's removed from store... they were not able to deliver it when it was available for sale.. it's like silently moving on with some promises it's ok one day in a far far away future it will be done and that's not positive news
@kungfuhiker87934 ай бұрын
Remembering the classic Super Hornet video in 2014.
@Exydos14 ай бұрын
I'm very against the old hornets being removed
@reamoinmcdonachadh95194 ай бұрын
They should do a cargo version of the Valkeryie, or even a medivac version, they would be popular variants.
@justinsandock4 ай бұрын
I bought a Valkyrie with uec and have fallen in love with it. Replacing one of the jump seat rooms with a med table or small repair room would be very cool.
@ElijahNMitchell4 ай бұрын
In lore it is supposed to be semi-modular (I believe the even mentioned it when the ship released). Tossing a Nursa in and doing drops with CAS is fun
@reamoinmcdonachadh95194 ай бұрын
I keep forgetting that on ANVIL DAY you will get a surfeit of Carracks flying about!! Rental Carracks galore!!
@tjh56704 ай бұрын
The old MK1 Hornets going away is wild. How will they handle expired insurance on a ship you wont even be able to get in game?
@Archmage98854 ай бұрын
You'll likely just pay credits for in game insurance just like you would for any ship bought in game once they add the "feature complete" version of insurance.
@charlescassels38264 ай бұрын
I unmelted my Heartseeker Super Hornet with credit to make sure I have a hornet in my hanger for the paint!
@Osean_Kitty4 ай бұрын
Maybe in the future if they add them back, they could be a derelict ship you can find and either salvage it or fix it up back to add to your fleet.
@MrSolLeks4 ай бұрын
In the faq it says they plan to have a way to get them in game, just not via stores
@InterstellarTaco4 ай бұрын
Pretty much their plan for the Bengal right now
@Osean_Kitty4 ай бұрын
@@InterstellarTaco that makes since considering how large it is, so that'll have to be a large org ship with the amount of resources that you'll probably need to get it back up and operational. But having smaller older ships like the MK1 Hornet floating around would be cool too since that'll give salvagers the option of "do I want to reduce this ship to its bare parts, or do I come back with a ship that I can fix up and claim it for myself to use?"
@InterstellarTaco4 ай бұрын
@Osean_Kitty absolutely. That would be awesome to see old ships that can be brought back like an old barn find. Maybe even a Zeus MK1
@zombiexii62114 ай бұрын
Absolutely love Anvil ships; Arrow, Hurricane, and especially Carrack are my favorites in the game. Can't wait until the Carrack gets its gold pass.
@EvilEndz4 ай бұрын
You know what would be nice, I'll tell you. An ability to take remote viewing tours of the Invictus expo with something like a flying eye drone which you can use to rent remotely and not spend the first hour of your evening catching a train, sprinting around impossibly large halls etc. I'm saying this as I've had a, medication related, week long headache and cannot cope with the legwork required to see the ships every couple of days.
@mattp13374 ай бұрын
Seems like the mk1 Hornets should be buyable in game from the used and military surplus markets and at junk yards. We don't have those kinds of vendors yet, but we're at least expecting junk yard vendors to be a thing eventually.
@MrDecelles4 ай бұрын
at least an upgrade path to the F7A mk 1. It's surplus after all!
@Cryost884 ай бұрын
I do love the hurricane. It's so good looking!
@CosmicTurtle134 ай бұрын
Kinda confused by the lack of an Invictus paint for the F7 Mk2 and the F8, and saddened by the lack of paints for the Terrapin once again.
@nenge_mboko4 ай бұрын
The Hornet is the most iconic ship in SC (in fact it is used as an icon on the website). It has been surpassed by so many ships over the years that I am not surprised it needed an Mk II or a full rework in the way that the Cuttie did. I salute you mighty bird/insect, may your legacy live on.
@Animated_guy_OG4 ай бұрын
As someone with an MK1 hornet, Im glad to have a legend, but sad to see it go
@Grum_Be4 ай бұрын
3 Warbond CCU: 2 from yesterday, Retaliator 160/175. Firebird 170/185. Also the Valkyrie 350/375.
@averybowles59534 ай бұрын
It feels like it's been a while since we've seen a new anvil ship.
@Ome994 ай бұрын
I don’t know if CiG is doing this, but I think it will be fair to give all Hornet MK 1 owners a one time free chance to upgrade to a MK 2.
@thespacemonkey10004 ай бұрын
I like anvil ships, they have a cool design language.
@PaladinStem4 ай бұрын
I guess I got a mk1 chilling now. They did talk about replacing models every so often.
@AnimeLineup4 ай бұрын
Terrapin has some of the coolest engineering details with the way the armor covers over the top of the cockpit as well as the engine vents (guess they learned from the Death Star)
@Zagor244 ай бұрын
Anvil's military line design is top notch
@MrEasterrabbit4 ай бұрын
„Oldtimer“ Ships is an interesting concept especially for collectors. Everyone has the chance to get a rare ship in the future. Hands down, the F7M mk1 is the ship I had the most playtime and fun with. There is no other ship wich deserves it more to become an loved Oldtimer. O7 Mk1 Series
@MikeSTPK3 ай бұрын
The game's universe is so vast, I discover something new every time I play.
@mweb5864 ай бұрын
Something interesting about the Mk 1 hornets is that they created the military upgrade for the Super Hornet. That package is VERY old and CIG still hasn't delivered on it despite sunsetting the Mk 1s. Interesting.
@Hatdoge4 ай бұрын
I really like the Hornet Mk 1 design
@joon91324 ай бұрын
got F7C mk2 for F7A upgrade. feels good taking out hrts with full ballistic loadout.
@umbrastorm4 ай бұрын
F8C is by far my favorite ship. Hopefully an event will come eventually to upgrade it to the F8A like the Hornet.
@talifrostlily21204 ай бұрын
I'm sad to see the Hornet MK1 to go, but I am so happy it was around while I played. She was my first fighter and will continue to serve for early bounties on wipes.
@BazureSkyslash4 ай бұрын
I do love the Valkyrie, it'd be cool if they could make some variants of it without the dropseats. Maybe an extended living space or a scanning area, more of a civilian variant of it.
@squigglychris83964 ай бұрын
Now that they're getting modularity up and running, I'm thinking they're tossing out the MK1 to reduce confusion on the online store. What's the big difference between each Hornet? Slight stat changes, and basically module differences. You can just have the Hornet Mk II purchasable, then achieve the same qualities with swappable components. You don't have to worry about keeping 5 different Hornet variants up to date on an old system. Just adjusting the one HM.II
@IrisCorven4 ай бұрын
The downside to that is the Ghost. For the Ghost, the stealth was baked into the hull plating, so you ended up with a 3.5k EM and IR, but still had the capacity to swap in the nose and ball turrets to get a huge firepower increase. It made for probably the best "stealth puncher" outside of the Eclipse. If they add components to create variants with the MK2, I don't see them doing anything besides sacrificing the ball turret for that "stealth cap" that did nothing in the Ghost, which means - sure, you can have a lower EM/IR, but you sacrifice two S3 guns in the process, making it instantly inferior to the Mk I Ghost. In all honesty, it sort've makes me question melting my Mk I Ghost.
@Nommicus4 ай бұрын
Ill never melt my SH. I love her even though she's been out grown. She was my first love in the verse.
@havocnchaos3 ай бұрын
I love Bored and Zin videos! I'm helping other likeminded souls find them as well by helping engagement numbers and leaving a random comment!
@NozomuYume4 ай бұрын
The Terrapin is the best dropship in the game, and we regularly have 8+ people in it. It's sold as a scanning ship but it's actually a better dropship than anything that's actually sold as a dropship.
@differenttan73664 ай бұрын
Cig really screwed hornet owners, they bought the uee’s premier fighter, now before the games even released it’s an an antique. The owners should have been offered a free or minimum price opportunity to upgrade to a mk2 instead it’s 55, 1/3 more to upgrade. If you’re a ghost or tracker owner you even lose some capability with the mk2. I doubt many hornet mk1 owners really want to collect old less capable ships. This is cig at is most mercenary. I feel for the guy who bought into the mk 1 advertising in 2012 and waited 12 years to get screwed by cig for an extra 55.
@sirhammerlocke4 ай бұрын
I'm just glad I was able to pick a super hornet up before it disappeared. Thanks for another great video!
@DavidRennie-ur9dv4 ай бұрын
I don't hate the new hornet, and I do understand why they are not giving the opportunity for current hornet mk 1 owners to trade directly for a mk 2, it still feels a little cash grabbing.
@Samwise_Dibly4 ай бұрын
I look forward to seeing how MK1 Hornets may be accessible/unlockable in-game in the future - even if they aren't ready to share those details yet
@mracicot4 ай бұрын
These ships are amazing. There's no doubt that if this game reaches the goals we are seeing set for current and future content, it won't be long before people will be saying, "Uh, did you just say, 'Eve?' What's that?" I
@barryvale70334 ай бұрын
I think you will find the hornet on old destroyed carriers in Vandul space or abandond/ destroyed space stations.
@TheAengelkemier4 ай бұрын
I think the Terrapin is my next real world purchase. I enjoy flying it. Always have had a lot of fun with that thing.
@orangeclockwork69044 ай бұрын
I'll be glad when exploration get's built out so the Terrapin can show it's worth. I really like that ship. Thanks for the vid Bored and Zin. Be well everyone.
@matteosiefert8464 ай бұрын
I can absolutely NOT agree with everybody criticizing this move and dropping the Fomo card. This is how CR intended it to be from the start and as with used cars, this can still be obtained on the grey market, you can keep buybacks and as they stated: the will be earnable/buyable some way or another ingame later on down the line. Imo this only shows how far we've come and it truly marks the end of the first chapter of SC. Farewell to this legend, thanks for staring in the first trailer ever and bringing us Here.
@NShredder4 ай бұрын
Its one thing to keep a rare ship as a collectable but its different if you take a very common ship and suddenly make it rare, cars becomming a collectable takes a process of many years, usually with forewarning. Not a week for both
@ashtonk11303 ай бұрын
anvil is one of my favorite ship makers. the carrack is in my feeling the perfect ship!
@mitchelvandermeer14214 ай бұрын
Thanks for the in and tour around
@GeorgeNoX4 ай бұрын
I am also very much in love with the Carrack, great ship and pretty generous cargo space too for that cargo running if you need it and with Carrack you can defend it if need be pretty well
@Elementarian3 ай бұрын
Anvil is where it's at. 😍 Carrack has always been the one ship I'm gonna work towards on release.
@kpatt20064 ай бұрын
The freezing/stutter in the game when I logged in yesterday for the first time in almost a year, was crazy. I just logged right back off lol. I'll check back in a few more months.
@elcockroach73284 ай бұрын
It's a great chance to pick up a Pisces Rescue with 120 months insurance for those that don't own that ship already!
@Taurus18344 ай бұрын
I love the carrack, probably one of my favourite large ships.
@dunkirk42894 ай бұрын
Ah my favorite day. Forever waiting for an arrow gold pass :,)
@cjayfpv58234 ай бұрын
Old Hornets are now becoming classic cars. Get 'em While you can! I thought they had always said it was on the verge of being decommissioned within the game world right?
@istvaantycho83373 ай бұрын
Those Hornets are going to skyrocket in value on the grey market...
@CrazyNights10154 ай бұрын
I cannot believe that I'm seriously considering getting the ironclad. Rugged, tough looking ships just do something for me. This is why i switched out my Carrack for the Galaxy but also why i love the terrapin and the valk. Tough little ships
@cicio77774 ай бұрын
Polaris looks great especially with better turrets. It desperately needs more remote turrets toward side rear and rear. I would love to see Scorpius turret railing on each rear sides to give awesome polaris broadside views from rear remote turrets or views of rear combat as well
@catwizard33124 ай бұрын
i like how theyre making it into something of a classic car
@cnolan12904 ай бұрын
I keep wanting to try out a Valkyrie to do some platform missions on Crusader. Get those door guns going.
@alantaylor46314 ай бұрын
I can see why they are removing the Hornets MK1 from both the store and in game shops if a new model car is releasing the old ones are removed from the showrooms. But yes, this was a Suprise to hear.
@IvanForpatril4 ай бұрын
Carrack is truly amazing, It really likes like it can do anything.
@PR3DATOR4904 ай бұрын
CIG "retiring" a ship = The game is not even finished yet and core mechanics that affect every ship are missing. Therefore, no ship should be getting "retired" because they have not even entered service. Is this the future of CIG monetization practices = Coming out with "newer" JPEG versions while "sunsetting" the older ones into abandonware ? CIG going to stop "supporting" or updating the MKI to encourage players to move to the "newest" ships with their features as part of the feature creeping marketing pitch ? CIG sell ships as part of an IOU they will be finished into a fully FUNCTIONAL state that was advertised. Retiring a ship before the game has finished a single mechanic and producing "newer" version = That is a failure to live up to that IOU with another shady marketing trick to push more product.
@xugans994 ай бұрын
The Valkyre is still one of my all time favorite ships
@srgfubar4 ай бұрын
It's worth mentioning that the Med picies also come stocked with some basic supplies for free.
@Rycave4 ай бұрын
fair enough removing the hornet as an in game event when Star Citizen is released... but we are supposedly not at that stage yet, so creating this FOMO aspect is pretty wrong.
@b4dm0nk184 ай бұрын
I love the Carrack too and with the C8R Rescue and Medivac it's a great floating hospital.
@LoganM7934 ай бұрын
Can’t wait for the in field repair ships, those guys are gonna make a mint in Pyro, same with refuelling as well!
@MorisCami4 ай бұрын
I’ve slowly come around on anvil. Really like the arrow
@aimlis4 ай бұрын
I'm not overly upset about the hornet decision but more with how its been communicated and what it might mean for other 'legacy' ships. There are plenty of examples of older ships in worst states than the Hornets and desperately need major reworks. While these might not be retired like the MK1 Hornets it does raise some questions about the priority they'll receive in the future.
@thisishaggard4 ай бұрын
I was trying to remember if my carrack had an Ursa yesterday lol
@Yumeji4 ай бұрын
I've purchased and sent to buybacks all the MK I ships to keep a piece of history... and in case I ever want to revive these collectibles in the future
@Ha1rD1aper4 ай бұрын
remember hearing awhile back something about the Hornet MK1 and SQ42 reward. was something from CR, even though i can't remember what video. has been mentioned a couple times, i think, if anyone cares to look. could just be a rental or in game purchase option. somehow doubt CIG would give PU F7C MK1, but maybe...
@tedark1464 ай бұрын
Everyone was in a Carrack last time I was on!
@tje.o.a54774 ай бұрын
Solid news BG!!!! Didn't watch all the way through, late for me, I look forward to seeing you all around the verse someday in 4.0!!!!
@jasonfabrick93084 ай бұрын
Is it all the F7 Mark 1s or just the base? With memories of the Polaris in the hall the Carrack does not seem so big now.
@brianw34154 ай бұрын
Seems to be all mk1s, even the super hornets.
@tragic_tragous4 ай бұрын
Love the look of the Valkyre. It's a bit pricy though so might be a buy in game. The Liberator looks awesome!
@RavingNut4 ай бұрын
I have a F7M Heartseeker (Mk1), I'm going to have that OLD SCHOOL classic then 😆
@shadowlegacy46494 ай бұрын
Loved getting to look around the carrack as it will be one of the ships I most likely will never own
@MeatSalad844 ай бұрын
I love the Carrack. Although, I've never flown one, or been in one... but I've watched a lot of videos! I still couldn't bring myself to spend that kind of money on one ship.... (looks at my total spent....)
@CY3ER4 ай бұрын
Ahhh I've always wanted a super hornet! I know they're not the best ship out there, but the idea that your rear seat copilot has a turret is just awesome.
@T3hBr0k3nM0nk3y4 ай бұрын
A mothballed ship before launch is very much in keeping with the military industrial complex. I approve. Great stuff, Bored! Be well, folks! 😉👍
@TheHeliommm4 ай бұрын
As long as people can keep what they bought cool. If not they bought a hornet, they should be upgraded directly to the new ship. At no cost
@fighterh2o154 ай бұрын
Just bought the F7C for the F7A upgrade and having a great time :)
@Caelum_NLD4 ай бұрын
I rebought my 2013 first pledge Ghost a few years ago. I was not planning to get rid of it anymore, now I certainly will not anymore. On the fence about the Arrow. Maybe I'll wait till CitCon to buy something new, and go play the game with the Ghost and git good first.
@grendel_prime6664 ай бұрын
Thanks for the invictus coverage.
@michaeldemanicus6034 ай бұрын
Thank's for your your videos, it helps keeping me informed and less chance of missing out on something in the SC chaos
@aitvaras52714 ай бұрын
I'm kind of surprised they aren't selling the F8C this sale.
@StarCitizenTopG-hd8or4 ай бұрын
only can get it with doing overdrive mission and also 1200 usd for it on black market
@NormanGaming1964 ай бұрын
@@StarCitizenTopG-hd8or They are talking about F8C, not F7A
@StarCitizenTopG-hd8or4 ай бұрын
@@NormanGaming196 my bad the one you get by having the golden ticket my bad brotha
@NormanGaming1964 ай бұрын
@@StarCitizenTopG-hd8or I wish I had an F8C :(
@kaibeasley59654 ай бұрын
i always thought it would be cool if the gladiator had gravity bombs like the a1/a2
@tobitheweirdgerman2304 ай бұрын
Wow, CIG always surprise me with how they get people to buy ships. They knew no ones gonna buy a Mk 1, so they remove it from all stores so they can get one last FOMO Cash rush out of it
@michaelruocco66904 ай бұрын
Sad that they are getting rid of the hornet, I have a sentimental spot for it since its named after the first ship you fly in wing commander.
@Tekjive4 ай бұрын
My 1st Invictus, digging it so far 🤙🏻
@edwin.v4 ай бұрын
7:50 reminds me of what I noticed in game as well. The face rendering at normal interaction distance looks absolutely horrible. It's fine when you zoom in, but the lodding seems way off here.
@kombo0744 ай бұрын
I sure wish the rentals lasted a couple days longer as I'm trying to get around work schedule. Thanks for the videos
@Inquisitor_Hildr4 ай бұрын
I have a heartseeker that I was hoping to use with the WillsOp scanner now that my f7a2 made that obsolete. I hope we will be able to buy the different modules in game and not just the turrets.
@toroka4 ай бұрын
@BoredGamer I think I'd rather grab an Ursa Medivac than a flying hospital bed ;) After all you can store the Ursa on a lot of craft, giving you a driving AND flying ambulance ;)
@danbourne77914 ай бұрын
That F7A looks tasty, need to finish these overdrive missions
@justinsandock4 ай бұрын
All i can think of is Drake Expo for more details on the Ironclad.